Re: [fossil-users] Shun old versions of (large) binary files

2011-07-17 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 06:17:07PM +0200, Marco Maggesi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 first of all let me say that fossil is an excellent piece of software.
 I use it everyday.
 Thank you for developing and supporting fossil.
 
 I have a small problem and i wonder if it can be easily solved.
 (Perhaps with some clever usage of branch and tags etc.)
 
 My question is: Is it possible to selectively shun all binary files that 
 exceed a certain age?
 Here selectively means files that are stored under a given directory or are 
 tagged in some way.

In that case, I'd deconstruct, and try to get a list of the biggest artifacts,
easy to do once they became files.
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Re: [fossil-users] Shun old versions of (large) binary files

2011-07-17 Thread Marco Maggesi

On Jul 16, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Remigiusz Modrzejewski wrote:

 On Jul 14, 2011, at 18:17 , Marco Maggesi wrote:
 
 I use fossil to host some latex documents and it is very practical for me to 
 store in the fossil repository the generated pdf documents together with the 
 latex sources.  However, as the time passes, these old versions lose 
 interest and they make the fossil repository 
 uselessly large.  I suppose that a similar problem can arise in other cases. 
  E.g. when you want to distribute through fossil an up to date compiled 
 version of your software.
 
 While this could be useful, don't expect current Fossil developers to jump on 
 it. It's been stated that Fossil is not a distribution tool, neither a 
 package building tool, thus features dedicated to that are out of scope. And 
 as there are not many frequent contributors, they'd better keep their focus 
 on the things Fossil aims at.
 
 On the other hand, this is OSS. You can just go for it :)

I understand this.  Fossil has a clear and explicit focus to software 
development.
This contribute to make fossil a good and well designed software, so I don't 
regret for this policy.

Sometimes it just happens that applications can easily handle situations for 
which they are not designed for,
perhaps in a way that you wouldn't thought at first.
That's why I asked to the mailing list before to give up.

But if it is not the case, I will find another solution.

 Kind regards,
 Remigiusz Modrzejewski

Thank you,
Marco
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Re: [fossil-users] Shun old versions of (large) binary files

2011-07-17 Thread Marco Maggesi

On Jul 17, 2011, at 9:40 PM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 06:17:07PM +0200, Marco Maggesi wrote:
 
 My question is: Is it possible to selectively shun all binary files that 
 exceed a certain age?
 Here selectively means files that are stored under a given directory or 
 are tagged in some way.
 
 In that case, I'd deconstruct, and try to get a list of the biggest 
 artifacts,
 easy to do once they became files.

This is interesting, I didn't know about deconstruct.

I just tried but I was not able to get the metadata in a easy way, e.g., the 
name of the file or the creation date.
This requires some analysis on the whole set of artifacts, I guess.
Nonetheless it can be easily used to shun all artifacts that contains a pdf 
file, I think.

Perhaps I should look at the format of artifacts an I could devise a SQL query 
which quickly and easily perform the job.
But I don't have enough time to invest on this at the moment, so I rather try 
to solve the problem in a more pedestrian way.
At least for now.

Thanks,
M.
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Re: [fossil-users] Shun old versions of (large) binary files

2011-07-16 Thread Remigiusz Modrzejewski

On Jul 14, 2011, at 18:17 , Marco Maggesi wrote:

 I use fossil to host some latex documents and it is very practical for me to 
 store in the fossil repository the generated pdf documents together with the 
 latex sources.  However, as the time passes, these old versions lose interest 
 and they make the fossil repository 
 uselessly large.  I suppose that a similar problem can arise in other cases.  
 E.g. when you want to distribute through fossil an up to date compiled 
 version of your software.

While this could be useful, don't expect current Fossil developers to jump on 
it. It's been stated that Fossil is not a distribution tool, neither a package 
building tool, thus features dedicated to that are out of scope. And as there 
are not many frequent contributors, they'd better keep their focus on the 
things Fossil aims at.

On the other hand, this is OSS. You can just go for it :)


Kind regards,
Remigiusz Modrzejewski



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Re: [fossil-users] Shun old versions of (large) binary files

2011-07-16 Thread Alexander Vladimirov
2011/7/16 Remigiusz Modrzejewski l...@maxnet.org.pl:

 On Jul 14, 2011, at 18:17 , Marco Maggesi wrote:

 I use fossil to host some latex documents and it is very practical for me to 
 store in the fossil repository the generated pdf documents together with the 
 latex sources.  However, as the time passes, these old versions lose 
 interest and they make the fossil repository
 uselessly large.  I suppose that a similar problem can arise in other cases. 
  E.g. when you want to distribute through fossil an up to date compiled 
 version of your software.

 While this could be useful, don't expect current Fossil developers to jump on 
 it. It's been stated that Fossil is not a distribution tool, neither a 
 package building tool, thus features dedicated to that are out of scope. And 
 as there are not many frequent contributors, they'd better keep their focus 
 on the things Fossil aims at.

 On the other hand, this is OSS. You can just go for it :)


 Kind regards,
 Remigiusz Modrzejewski



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Re: [fossil-users] Shun old versions of (large) binary files

2011-07-16 Thread Alexander Vladimirov
sry, mail sent by mistake =)

2011/7/16 Alexander Vladimirov id...@idkfa.org.ru:
 2011/7/16 Remigiusz Modrzejewski l...@maxnet.org.pl:

 On Jul 14, 2011, at 18:17 , Marco Maggesi wrote:

 I use fossil to host some latex documents and it is very practical for me 
 to store in the fossil repository the generated pdf documents together with 
 the latex sources.  However, as the time passes, these old versions lose 
 interest and they make the fossil repository
 uselessly large.  I suppose that a similar problem can arise in other 
 cases.  E.g. when you want to distribute through fossil an up to date 
 compiled version of your software.

 While this could be useful, don't expect current Fossil developers to jump 
 on it. It's been stated that Fossil is not a distribution tool, neither a 
 package building tool, thus features dedicated to that are out of scope. And 
 as there are not many frequent contributors, they'd better keep their focus 
 on the things Fossil aims at.

 On the other hand, this is OSS. You can just go for it :)


 Kind regards,
 Remigiusz Modrzejewski



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Re: [fossil-users] Shun old versions of (large) binary files

2011-07-16 Thread Rene
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:36:26 +0200, Remigiusz Modrzejewski wrote:
 On Jul 14, 2011, at 18:17 , Marco Maggesi wrote:

 I use fossil to host some latex documents and it is very practical 
 for me to store in the fossil repository the generated pdf documents 
 together with the latex sources.  However, as the time passes, these 
 old versions lose interest and they make the fossil repository
 uselessly large.  I suppose that a similar problem can arise in 
 other cases.  E.g. when you want to distribute through fossil an up to 
 date compiled version of your software.

 While this could be useful, don't expect current Fossil developers to
 jump on it. It's been stated that Fossil is not a distribution tool,
 neither a package building tool, thus features dedicated to that are
 out of scope. And as there are not many frequent contributors, they'd
 better keep their focus on the things Fossil aims at.

 On the other hand, this is OSS. You can just go for it :)


 Kind regards,
 Remigiusz Modrzejewski



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what you could do is serving the documents from outside you repository.

e.g. like the download page for fossil.
The pdf can always be recreated from the sources
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Re: [fossil-users] Shun old versions of (large) binary files

2011-07-16 Thread Remigiusz Modrzejewski

On Jul 16, 2011, at 15:47 , Rene wrote:

 what you could do is serving the documents from outside you repository.
 
 e.g. like the download page for fossil.
 The pdf can always be recreated from the sources

That last statement is sadly far from truth :( Anyhow that's the current 
solution for this problem.

A much smarter thing to implement in Fossil would be: make a space for 
unversioned files that would be propagated along the source tree. It would 
solve a lot of practical issues (like keeping javascript for Fossil UI inside 
source tree, yuck!) and not be a hack like anything shun-based. One day I might 
actually try to do this, but it's certainly not going to be soon :/

Kind regards,
Remigiusz Modrzejewski



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Re: [fossil-users] Shun old versions of (large) binary files

2011-07-15 Thread trash
I'd also love a function like that. Me too, I have large binary files which 
get obsolete after some time. They make the fossil rep very big and awkward 
to handle.

Thank you
Daniel

-Original Message- 
From: Marco Maggesi
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:17 PM
To: fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org
Subject: [fossil-users] Shun old versions of (large) binary files

Hi,

first of all let me say that fossil is an excellent piece of software.
I use it everyday.
Thank you for developing and supporting fossil.

I have a small problem and i wonder if it can be easily solved.
(Perhaps with some clever usage of branch and tags etc.)

My question is: Is it possible to selectively shun all binary files that 
exceed a certain age?
Here selectively means files that are stored under a given directory or 
are tagged in some way.

I use fossil to host some latex documents and it is very practical for me to 
store in the fossil repository the generated pdf documents together with the 
latex sources.  However, as the time passes, these old versions lose 
interest and they make the fossil repository
uselessly large.  I suppose that a similar problem can arise in other cases. 
E.g. when you want to distribute through fossil an up to date compiled 
version of your software.

Thank you,
Marco

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[fossil-users] Shun old versions of (large) binary files

2011-07-14 Thread Marco Maggesi
Hi,

first of all let me say that fossil is an excellent piece of software.
I use it everyday.
Thank you for developing and supporting fossil.

I have a small problem and i wonder if it can be easily solved.
(Perhaps with some clever usage of branch and tags etc.)

My question is: Is it possible to selectively shun all binary files that exceed 
a certain age?
Here selectively means files that are stored under a given directory or are 
tagged in some way.

I use fossil to host some latex documents and it is very practical for me to 
store in the fossil repository the generated pdf documents together with the 
latex sources.  However, as the time passes, these old versions lose interest 
and they make the fossil repository 
uselessly large.  I suppose that a similar problem can arise in other cases.  
E.g. when you want to distribute through fossil an up to date compiled version 
of your software.

Thank you,
Marco

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