Re: [fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.

2011-03-04 Thread John Found
I made some more tests. Located the check-ins that produced this strange merge
and checked out the versions of the problematic file from both check-ins in 
order to compare them.
So, the versions of this file are completely byte-to-byte equal.
The only specificity of these files is that the last line ends without CR or LF 
or any 
other control character. The last byte in the file is the character "'" - that 
is the last
character on the line.

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From: Richard Hipp (d...@sqlite.org)
Subject: Re: [fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.
Date: 4.3.2011 18:23:12

>On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Found  wrote:
>
>> Several times when making merge with fossil, I ended up with really 
>> strange conflicts like this:
>>
>> <<<<<<< BEGIN MERGE CONFLICT: original content first <<<<<<<
>> include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'=== original content above; conflict
>> below =
>> include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'>>>>>>> END MERGE CONFLICT: conflict last
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>
>Did it really come out looking like that, or did the line wrapping occur
>when you pasted the output in to your email program?
>
>Differences might be whitespace.  Extra whitespace at the end of the line,
>or tabs instead of spaces someplace.
>
>Or, could it be that your files does not end with a \n and that fact is
>confusing Fossil somehow?   If so, I'll look into it.  But a quick fix for
>you is to make sure your source code files end with \n - something you
>should probably be doing anyhow.
>
>
>
>>
>> In one merge, there was 4..5 similar "conflicts" and none of "real"
>> In my opinion, both lines are totally equal.
>> Is it a bug or I am missing something?
>>
>> Regards
>>

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Re: [fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.

2011-03-04 Thread Ramon Ribó
I do not agree here. Of course, the solution is:

a
c
b

It follows the principle of least surprise. If you want to make very
strange things with merges, do not use a tool with automatic merge. Do
it manually.

Also, the merge of two equal lines, one with unix line end and the
other with Windows line end, should not give any difference.

At the end, the merge algorithm is subjective and can do whatever his
developer thinks is more convenient to serve their users.

RR



2011/3/4 Will West :
> I'd go further, and say that the same change happening separately in
> two branches is a conflict. Given initial content
>
> a
> b
>
> For feature foo Bob changes it to
>
> a
> c
> b
>
> for feature bar Tom changes it to
>
> a
> c
> b
>
> When you want a branch with both features foo and bar, there isn't a
> reasonable way for any merge algorithm to detect whether you need
>
> a
> c
> b
>
>
> OR
>
> a
> c
> c
> b
>
> OR perhaps something more like
>
> a
> cc
> b
>
> These decisions are outside the scope of what I would expect from
> automatic merge to understand.
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.

2011-03-04 Thread John Found
-- Original Message --
>
>Opinions on this vary.  Fossil used to ignore whitespace at the ends of
>lines when merging.  But I changed this just the other day in response to 
>a complaint:
>
>http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/ci/1d93222627
>
>

So, Fossil treats CR($0d) and LF($0a) as a "whitespace", right?


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Re: [fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.

2011-03-04 Thread Will West
I'd go further, and say that the same change happening separately in
two branches is a conflict. Given initial content

a
b

For feature foo Bob changes it to

a
c
b

for feature bar Tom changes it to

a
c
b

When you want a branch with both features foo and bar, there isn't a
reasonable way for any merge algorithm to detect whether you need

a
c
b


OR

a
c
c
b

OR perhaps something more like

a
cc
b

These decisions are outside the scope of what I would expect from
automatic merge to understand.

Regards,

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Re: [fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.

2011-03-04 Thread John Found
>Did it really come out looking like that, or did the line wrapping occur
>when you pasted the output in to your email program?
>

Not like in your response. But still strange. I posted 3 lines of text as a 
example.
I will quote them again separateli, closed with "[]" in order to avoid mail 
client reformating:

1: [<<<<<<< BEGIN MERGE CONFLICT: original content first <<<<<<<]
2: [include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'=== original content above; conflict 
below =]
3: [include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'>>>>>>> END MERGE CONFLICT: conflict last 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>]

Possible one of the files could be in Linux format (line ending with $0a) and 
other in Windows ($0d,$0a)
Also, possibly the last line of the file could not end with any of them.
There is no whitespace at the end of the line, except for CR and LF.

Best Regards.

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From: Richard Hipp (d...@sqlite.org)
Subject: Re: [fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.
Date: 4.3.2011 18:23:12

>On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Found  wrote:
>
>> Several times when making merge with fossil, I ended up with really 
>> strange conflicts like this:
>>
>> <<<<<<< BEGIN MERGE CONFLICT: original content first <<<<<<<
>> include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'=== original content above; conflict
>> below =
>> include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'>>>>>>> END MERGE CONFLICT: conflict last
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>
>Did it really come out looking like that, or did the line wrapping occur
>when you pasted the output in to your email program?
>


>Differences might be whitespace.  Extra whitespace at the end of the line,
>or tabs instead of spaces someplace.
>
>Or, could it be that your files does not end with a \n and that fact is
>confusing Fossil somehow?   If so, I'll look into it.  But a quick fix for
>you is to make sure your source code files end with \n - something you
>should probably be doing anyhow.
>
>
>
>>
>> In one merge, there was 4..5 similar "conflicts" and none of "real"
>> In my opinion, both lines are totally equal.
>> Is it a bug or I am missing something?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> http://fresh.flatassembler.net
>> Assembly language visual programming.
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Re: [fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.

2011-03-04 Thread Richard Hipp
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:24 AM, John Found  wrote:

> >Can it be a difference on the end of lines?
> Hm, I don't know actually. There is small possibility that one can be with
> Linux LF and other with CRLF.
> Is it important? - they are text files and Fossil merges text files, not
> binaries.
>

Opinions on this vary.  Fossil used to ignore whitespace at the ends of
lines when merging.  But I changed this just the other day in response to a
complaint:

http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/ci/1d93222627


>
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> From: Lluís Batlle i Rossell (virik...@gmail.com)
> Subject: Re: [fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.
> Date: 4.3.2011 18:19:25
>
> >On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 06:18:11PM +0200, John Found wrote:
> >> Several times when making merge with fossil, I ended up with really
> >> strange conflicts like this:
> >>
> >> <<<<<<< BEGIN MERGE CONFLICT: original content first <<<<<<<
> >> include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'=== original content above; conflict
> >> below =
> >> include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'>>>>>>> END MERGE CONFLICT: conflict last
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>
> >> In one merge, there was 4..5 similar "conflicts" and none of "real"
> >> In my opinion, both lines are totally equal.
> >> Is it a bug or I am missing something?
> >Can it be a difference on the end of lines?
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Re: [fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.

2011-03-04 Thread John Found
>Can it be a difference on the end of lines?
Hm, I don't know actually. There is small possibility that one can be with 
Linux LF and other with CRLF.
Is it important? - they are text files and Fossil merges text files, not 
binaries.

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From: Lluís Batlle i Rossell (virik...@gmail.com)
Subject: Re: [fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.
Date: 4.3.2011 18:19:25

>On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 06:18:11PM +0200, John Found wrote:
>> Several times when making merge with fossil, I ended up with really 
>> strange conflicts like this:
>> 
>> <<<<<<< BEGIN MERGE CONFLICT: original content first <<<<<<<
>> include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'=== original content above; conflict 
>> below =
>> include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'>>>>>>> END MERGE CONFLICT: conflict last 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> 
>> In one merge, there was 4..5 similar "conflicts" and none of "real"
>> In my opinion, both lines are totally equal.
>> Is it a bug or I am missing something?
>Can it be a difference on the end of lines?
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Re: [fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.

2011-03-04 Thread Richard Hipp
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Found  wrote:

> Several times when making merge with fossil, I ended up with really strange
> conflicts like this:
>
> <<< BEGIN MERGE CONFLICT: original content first <<<
> include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'=== original content above; conflict
> below =
> include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'>>> END MERGE CONFLICT: conflict last
> >>
>

Did it really come out looking like that, or did the line wrapping occur
when you pasted the output in to your email program?

Differences might be whitespace.  Extra whitespace at the end of the line,
or tabs instead of spaces someplace.

Or, could it be that your files does not end with a \n and that fact is
confusing Fossil somehow?   If so, I'll look into it.  But a quick fix for
you is to make sure your source code files end with \n - something you
should probably be doing anyhow.



>
> In one merge, there was 4..5 similar "conflicts" and none of "real"
> In my opinion, both lines are totally equal.
> Is it a bug or I am missing something?
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.

2011-03-04 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 06:18:11PM +0200, John Found wrote:
> Several times when making merge with fossil, I ended up with really strange 
> conflicts like this:
> 
> <<< BEGIN MERGE CONFLICT: original content first <<<
> include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'=== original content above; conflict below 
> =
> include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'>>> END MERGE CONFLICT: conflict last 
> >>
> 
> In one merge, there was 4..5 similar "conflicts" and none of "real"
> In my opinion, both lines are totally equal.
> Is it a bug or I am missing something?
Can it be a difference on the end of lines?
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[fossil-users] Strange merge conflicts.

2011-03-04 Thread John Found
Several times when making merge with fossil, I ended up with really strange 
conflicts like this:

<<< BEGIN MERGE CONFLICT: original content first <<<
include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'=== original content above; conflict below 
=
include '%TargetOS%/mouse.asm'>>> END MERGE CONFLICT: conflict last 
>>

In one merge, there was 4..5 similar "conflicts" and none of "real"
In my opinion, both lines are totally equal.
Is it a bug or I am missing something?

Regards

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