[fossil-users] conflict between HTML5 and Fossil
Hi, all, And now something which has nothing to do with JSON... i noticed yesterday (via a comment in one of the tickets) that fossil now sends an HTML5 doctype. That's all fine and good, but the wiki does not actually play well as-is with HTML5. In v5 several features wiki authors rely on are deprecated, e.g. the TT tag, align options, and several other things are now (=v5) officially delegated to CSS. Fossil strips out all but a small subset of element properties (CSS styles get removed). We may need to enable at least CSS (but keep the other stripping) in order to be v5 compliant. We'd also need to change code-side uses of TT and such, replacing them with styled SPANs. (Granted, i don't honestly believe that any existing browsers will remove the TT tag or the A.TARGET attribute, but they are officially deprecated.) -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] conflict between HTML5 and Fossil
On 9/15/2011 8:16 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: (Granted, i don't honestly believe that any existing browsers will remove the TT tag or the A.TARGET attribute, but they are officially deprecated.) The target attribute for the a and area elements is no longer deprecated, as it is useful in Web applications, e.g. in conjunction with iframe. http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/ Deprecating 'target' was a mistake of xhtml and html 4--it's back in html 5. (In fact, there's official support for the target attribute on more elements!) In contrast, tt and other purely presentational tags and attributes are not just deprecated but out completely. -- Joshua Paine LetterBlock: Web Applications Built With Joy http://letterblock.com/ 301-576-1920 ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] conflict between HTML5 and Fossil
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Joshua Paine jos...@letterblock.comwrote: The target attribute for the a and area elements is no longer deprecated, as it is useful in Web applications, e.g. in conjunction with iframe. http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-**diff/ http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/ Doh, that means i lied to everyone at work in my intro to html5 presentation a few weeks ago :/. Deprecating 'target' was a mistake of xhtml and html 4--it's back in html 5. (In fact, there's official support for the target attribute on more It was a huge mistake. The idea was apparently that scripting could replace it, but there are different policy/security restrictions with scripts opening new windows than there are with anchors opening them. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] conflict between HTML5 and Fossil
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:16:23 +0200 Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: And now something which has nothing to do with JSON... i noticed yesterday (via a comment in one of the tickets) that fossil now sends an HTML5 doctype. That's all fine and good, but the wiki does not actually play well as-is with HTML5. In v5 several features wiki authors rely on are deprecated, e.g. the TT tag, align options, and several other things are now (=v5) officially delegated to CSS. Fossil strips out all but a small subset of element properties (CSS styles get removed). I think the problem is really rooted in the wiki markup which is too simplistic for any real use beyond one-sentence notes. I'm not in position to weigh high-profile solutions like the proposed intergation of a markdown parser (which itself is not without irritating warts), but at least having something like *this* for emthis/em and `this` for what-span-attribute-currently-replaces ttthis/tt would be really nice to have. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
