Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Account Creation
Yes, I got the same idea as Mateus when reading this thread: As you type in a user name (or tab to the next box), the form should tell you if that username is taken or not. That will save you a lot of trouble going back to try a new user name. 2011/12/4 Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk I think it's easier if you write your username in a box and appears early ''sorry, it's already used'' or ''available!''. Like the e-mail system. I never liked the suggestions system. _ MateusNobre MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects (+55) 85 88393509 30440865 Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 03:10:33 -0700 From: fredb...@fairpoint.net To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Account Creation Hello, Last month I was in Qatar and introduced some people to Wikipedia. While they were creating their accounts, some of them had their initial suggested username taken, so they had to repeat it a couple of times until they finally found an available username. One of them had repeated it around 3 or 4 times until he had gotten frustrated. Which is why I'm asking if it's possible to add search type-ahead suggestions for available accounts. //Abbas. We have a page to do that at Special:ListUsers https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Special:ListUsers or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListUsers Fred Special:ListUsers =/= list of all users with SUL przykuta What does Special:ListUsers =/= list of all users with SUL mean? I thought the problem was to find account names that are not being used. If you search for a name you think you might want to use it returns a list of existing accounts. What is SUL? I know I'm supposed to understand Wikipedia acronyms, but I almost never do, unless I use them regularly myself, but I try to never use them, so never get practiced up. Fred OK, here is a tool: http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo This gives user info from every Wikimedia wiki. SUL Info This script gives a list of every account using a specified name on WMF wikis, and displays SUL data if accounts have been merged. The catch though is that if there is not an exact match it just returns no account. Special:ListUsers shows most close matches. It serves well enough for creation of an account on the wiki you're running it on. But there might be someone on another wiki using the same name, or one that is confusingly close. Fred ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- mvh Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of Language Contact Persons
speaking countries. == Experimental phase == My suggestion is that the Foundation asks the Wikipedia language versions to elect LCPs (and their deputies). After a year, the Foundation evaluates the experiences with the LCPs, whether they really make communication more efficient or not. Then, * the LCP system can remain the same as it is, * or has to be abolished because it caused more work than it helped, * or the system will be given a more formal basis, with the LCP getting a higher status or more tasks, or even becoming the nucleus of language based formal Wikimedia organizations. Maybe the LCP experiences can be of value with regard to Wikimedia projects such as Wikisource, Wikibooks etc. Please let me know what you think about the possibility and potential usefulness of Language Contact Persons. Kind regards Ziko -- Ziko van Dijk The Netherlands http://zikoblog.wordpress.com/ ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- mvh Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by Just a heads-up: we are trying to do something that is a bit similar to this in this year's fundraiser translation. What we're trying to do is to make a team of translators for each language, which is then headed by a translation coordinator for that language. The coordinator can be seen somewhat as an LCP, since their tasks are - among other things - to reach out to their local community to help find more translators and proofreaders. The idea is somewhat similar, though of course what we are doing is much smaller in scope compared to the LCP idea. But the experience from this can be still be useful with regards to LCP, in my opinion. -- Jon Harald Søby Fundraiser Production Coordinator ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Announcement: WMF engineering promotions and role changes
change as an engineering organization to absorb for now, so we’ve decided that it doesn’t make sense to immediately bring in a new person to lead the department. We may decide that it’ll make sense for me to continue in this role, or that it’ll make sense to bring in a new person 6-12 months from now, possibly in conjunction with further structural change. What this means, simply put, is that I’ll be organizing and supporting the work of the engineering department as a whole, with the directors, the product managers, Brion and Dario reporting to me, and that’ll be how we’ll be set up for the near future. My interest is to grow a strong, visible leadership team that’ll be on the lists and wikis and highly responsive to the community. I’ll be suspending most of my non-engineering-related work for the time being. I’ll be posting more about process improvements, further discussions about intra-departmental structure, and so forth, in coming weeks. I’ll also be sharing an updated org chart soon for those who care about those kinds of things. ;-) All the best, Erik -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l These sound like very sensible changes to me. Congratulations to all involved, I am sure they will continue to do a great job! -- mvh Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Board Elections: post mortem
Hello all, I hope you have all heard the news of the election results. (If not, they can be found here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/Results/en ) Since the election is over I have started a post mortem page on Meta to evaluate the election: what was good, what was bad (and how can it be approved), etc. As always, all input is appreciated, just add it to the page. :-) -- mvh Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?
2011/6/17 Joan Goma jrg...@gmail.com Congratulations to Ting Chen, Samuel Klein, and Kat Walsh on your reelection you have gained again the confidence of the editors so they are reasonably happy whit things as they are I wish you continue doing this great job and keeping their confidence. Thanks to all the other candidates for making innovative and interesting proposals it seems that we have not been able to offer alternatives attractive enough but I have had a lot of fun in the process and I hope all of you too. Finally thank you to Abbas, Jon, Mardetanha, Mantaya, and Ryan for your job. I would like to ask for the full pairwise results. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l Thanks, pairwise results will come (Mardetanha will hopefully publish them soon unless I mistunderstood him). I would like to apologize for the delays on our part, we understand that it is frustrating to be sitting on the edge of the seat without knowing when results arrive. Communication could definitely have been better. As I wrote in the board report, I think the elections would benefit from a semi-permanent committee, instead of an election-by-election-based committee. This would help counter repeats of the same mistakes, and smoothen things out. This year none of us were very technically-minded, and we learned that we definitely should have someone who can take care of that part as a committee member. In the beginning there were only three volunteers, but after some asking around we got two more (Matanya and Mardetanha), and there is a lot of work to do, so more volunteers is always nice. (Not trying to be apologetic here, there are many things we could have done better, and we should take self-criticism on that; I'm just trying to explain some of the factors involved.) Finally, congratulations to the winners! It is well-deserved. :-) Oh, and we will put up a post-mortem page on Meta soon, and all feedback is very welcome. -- mvh Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email
As Shane said, there are built-in features in the SecurePoll software that help us to control for sockpuppeting, so we are pretty safe. Sockpuppeting in a large enough scale to influence an election of this size would also be very difficult to pull through, and practically impossible to do undetected. 2011/6/11, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com: On 10 June 2011 22:19, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: I've received two invitations to vote -- also both at the same e-mail address -- so all I'd have to do now (if it were a user name that didn't make it obvious it was mine) is go somewhere else to vote. And given how low the voting requirements are the software must be sending out multiple invitations to quite a few people. I can't see how it benefits the project to have multiple accounts voting that only need to have made 300 edits and 20 recent ones, and a kind bot that reminds them of all the eligible account names. We're shooting ourselves in the foot with this, surely. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 15:29, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: Perhaps. Although with that said nearly 1000 people have voted today - compared to between 100-200 on the previous days (excepting the 29th, first day, which had about 600-800). So it's a case of; is the risk worth the reward? It's more than a risk, though, it's a certainty that the software is inviting multiple alternate/sock accounts to vote. And there's no way of knowing what the percentage is. So the cost/benefit can't be addressed, because we have no figures. Sarah ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- mvh Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] 2011 Board Elections: voting has started
In case you haven't seen the CentralNotice: the voting has started in WMF's 2011 Board Elections. Read up on the candidates at meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/Candidates/en , and cast your votes by going to [[Special:SecurePoll]] on a wiki where you are eligible. Questions to the candidates can be asked at meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/Candidates/Questions ; if you have any questions related to the election itself they can be posted on the election's talk page(s). On behalf of the Election Committee, Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] 2011 Board Elections: candidate submissions are open
I'm pleased to announce that the 2011 Board Election now accepts candidates. The candidacy submission phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 2nd to 23:59 UTC May 22nd. The election will fill the three community-elected board seats that are currently held by Ting Chen, Kat Walsh and Samuel Klein. More information on what it means to be a board member, who is eligible to be a candidate and how to submit your candidacy can be found on the election pages on Meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011 . As always, help with translation is very much appreciated. The translation coordination page can be found at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/Translation . Please feel free to post a note about the election on your project's village pump. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the talk page on Meta, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-electi...@wikimedia.org. On behalf of the Election Committee, Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] 2011 Board Elections: Input needed
Hello, fellow Wikimedians. On behalf of the 2011 Board Election Committee I would like to ask your input on the criteria for voters in the election. In the last election (2009), contributors needed to have at least 600 edits before the election began and 50 recent edits (within 6 months). However, we feel that the edit counts should be lowered, to allow newer contributors and mostly-inactive members to vote, as we feel that they are also valued members of the community. So our current proposal is a total of 300 edits, and 20 edits within 6 months. This only goes for the editing community; however, the community is more than just editors. Previously, suffrage has been extended to (a) server administrators, (b) paid staff and (c) current or former board members. This still does not account for all community members though, and we would like your input on what other community members should be eligible to vote (and how to quantify other types of contributions). In discussion amongst the community, the committee, board members and others, the following categories of potential voters were brought up: * Advisory Board members * Developers who are not server administrators, but who have made a certain number of commits (what number is sufficient?) * Donors ** Donors above a certain $ amount (in that case, what amount should be the limit?) * University students in the Ambassadors program * Researchers with access to the research user right So, to round up, we would very much like your input on these matters; are the edit count requirements fair, do the additional categories seem all right, and finally, are there any other user categories that should be eligible to vote? Input can be posted here, on [[m:Talk:Board elections/2011]]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Board_elections/2011or to the board elections list, board-electi...@lists.wikimedia.org. We're looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the matter! On behalf of the Election Committee, Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 Board Elections: Input needed
2011/3/20 FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com Allowing votes based on donations is likely to send the wrong message, however noble it might be. It really is too problematic - if the level is high then it allows buying votes where lower level donors could not; if it is low then paid-for voting swamps the informed users who may know the candidates and makes it more political. If donations are to be a criterion then I would suggest it must be met at least the last 2 years, not just one year - regular donors may be seen differently to once off donors. But this one is a can of worms and more trouble than it's worth - best not. What I would be interested in is some representative way to involve our other big category of the community - readers. Speculatively one could allow up to 50 or 100 reader votes, invite non-logged-in readers to apply by submitting their email address, select 50 - 100 by random poll proportionately by country (after checking for obvious duplicates) and allow them to vote. Again may be more trouble than it's worth, but it is important to consider if readers may have a say in what matters at the election. After all they are whom the project and all of our efforts are aimed at supporting. FT2 2011/3/20 Jon Harald Søby jhs...@gmail.com Hello, fellow Wikimedians. On behalf of the 2011 Board Election Committee I would like to ask your input on the criteria for voters in the election. In the last election (2009), contributors needed to have at least 600 edits before the election began and 50 recent edits (within 6 months). However, we feel that the edit counts should be lowered, to allow newer contributors and mostly-inactive members to vote, as we feel that they are also valued members of the community. So our current proposal is a total of 300 edits, and 20 edits within 6 months. This only goes for the editing community; however, the community is more than just editors. Previously, suffrage has been extended to (a) server administrators, (b) paid staff and (c) current or former board members. This still does not account for all community members though, and we would like your input on what other community members should be eligible to vote (and how to quantify other types of contributions). In discussion amongst the community, the committee, board members and others, the following categories of potential voters were brought up: * Advisory Board members * Developers who are not server administrators, but who have made a certain number of commits (what number is sufficient?) * Donors ** Donors above a certain $ amount (in that case, what amount should be the limit?) * University students in the Ambassadors program * Researchers with access to the research user right So, to round up, we would very much like your input on these matters; are the edit count requirements fair, do the additional categories seem all right, and finally, are there any other user categories that should be eligible to vote? Input can be posted here, on [[m:Talk:Board elections/2011]] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Board_elections/2011 or to the board elections list, board-electi...@lists.wikimedia.org. We're looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the matter! On behalf of the Election Committee, Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l The idea of including readers in the election is very interesting, but I'm afraid we don't have the time and resources to make it happen for this election (not to mention reaching a consensus on if and/or how it should be done). But do hang on to the thought for the post-mortem, so it can be considered for future elections. -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] share in Facebook/Twitter/etc icon
2011/2/7 Przykuta przyk...@o2.pl Wikinews has used these kinds of buttons for quite a while. They are placed in a share this box at the bottom of every article. See, for example, http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Egyptian_president_will_not_seek_re-election_in_September_after_protests For a while equivalent buttons were also active on Commons but they were turned off as it was unclear they had community support. I'm not aware of any Wikipedia edition that has used them though. -Liam But not every lang versions of Wikinews I think, like church of emacs, that identi.ca will be better + other cc-by (not nc not nd) media. przykuta It will be better ideologically, and it will also be pointless, as no-one outside the geek squad (that's us co) know what it is or use it. The goal of Twitter Facebook sharing would be to advertise the content to the public, and the effect would be extremely limited if we would only allow identi.ca sharing. Like it or not, if we want to advertise the projects in such a way, allowing Facebook and Twitter (as well as identi.ca of course) is really the only sensible thing to do. -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Language committee] Transparency
It does indeed. Our archives can be found here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Language_committee_archives I realize that there is no link to the archives from the main Langcom page ([[m:Language committee]]), and will try and fix this when I get home later today. 2010/9/16 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org just for the record, old ways and old rules refer to the fact they get published on meta, right? 2010/9/16 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com As Karen fixed her anonymity issue, archives of the Language committee will be public by default starting from September 12th, 2010. We will continue to use the same method for the list archives, as it allows us to talk about confidential (mostly personal) issues. Previous emails will stay as they are, according to the old rules. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing new Signpost issues on this list
http://www.wikipediasignpost.com/blog/?feed=rss2 There are other ways to subscribe here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe 2010/8/4 Mariano Cecowski marianocecow...@yahoo.com.ar: A RSS/Atom feed would be great. Thanks, MarianoC.- PS: I know, the page's history's RSS would do, but you'd get every single change to the page instead of the weekly update. --- El mar 3-ago-10, Wikipedia Signpost wikipediasignp...@gmail.com escribió: De: Wikipedia Signpost wikipediasignp...@gmail.com Asunto: [Foundation-l] Announcing new Signpost issues on this list Para: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Fecha: martes, 3 de agosto de 2010, 20:56 Hi all, some of you might know the Signpost, a community-written and community-edited newspaper, based on the English Wikipedia and covering stories, events and reports related to Wikipedia, its sister projects and the Wikimedia Foundation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/About The first issue came out on January 10, 2005 and it has been appearing (more or less) weekly ever since then, with a new issue due every Monday. While coverage of events on the English Wikipedia forms an important part of the Signpost, our News and notes, In the news and Technology Report sections regularly contain many news items that are relevant for other Wikipedias, or all Foundation projects. In June (around the time when Sage Ross left as editor-in-chief to take up his current job at the WMF, and I stepped into the breach), we had a lot of discussions about new ideas for the Signpost, including proposals to provide translations of our Foundation-wide coverage, or even moving it to Meta. While this still seemed a bit ambitious, there was consensus to emphasize our interwiki coverage more, and it was subsequently renamed from Wikipedia Signpost to Signpost. [Commercial break: If you are an experienced member of a WMF project/community and would like to contribute to one of our Sister project stories, covering its history, characteristics and recent major events, contact us at this email address or at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:POST/TIPS .] And at Wikimania last month, I talked to a lot of Wikimedians who are not primarily active on the English Wikipedia, but nevertheless know, read and appreciate the Signpost. On the other hand, there is currently no other independent publication (at least not in English) which regularly covers or summarizes WMF-related news. Wikizine was very informative and even had several translated editions, but has been inactive since the beginning of this year. Wikipedia Weekly was a well-informed podcast disussing much Foundation news, but there hasn't been a new episode since October 2009. Veterans might recall the Wikimedia Quarto, which had some excellent content and was widely translated, but stopped after three issues in 2004/2005. Of course there are other things which are useful for staying up to date, like the blog planets or Phoebe's earlier list summaries for this list, but they don't replace journalism-style news reporting. Following a suggestion by Phoebe, I am going to try out sending announcements of new Signpost issues to this list, containing brief headline summaries and links (see accompanying posting for the current issue). We hope that this will provide valuable and on-topic information for people interested in the kind of topics that are being discussed here, and perhaps it could also help to get more people involved in providing reader-oriented coverage of news from WMF projects to the whole Wikimedia community. Regards, HaeB -- Wikipedia Signpost Staff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Wikipedia...
Yes, it's communism that works in theory but not in practice. :-) 2010/6/17 Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com Isn't the quote backwards? The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works in practice. It could never work in theory? -Dan On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works in theory. It could never work in practice. I've seen that quote attributed to Jimmy, and also to Miikka Ryokas, quoted by Noam Cohen in his NY Times story about Virginia Tech. But neither of them, I think, originated it. Does anyone have a good attribution for first use of that quote? (I'm using it in a presentation and want to attribute if I can.) Thanks, Sue -- Sue Gardner Executive Director Wikimedia Foundation 415 839 6885 office 415 816 9967 cell Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement
2010/6/13 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, This is not a problem. We use the numbers that we have. We could ask Google for such numbers.. They might even be willing to share them with us. Thanks, GerardM This is not only directed at you Gerard, but to all the top-posting perverts (sorry, but I do think you are in the minority on this issue), on the list. If you can't be bothered to adhere to the tested and true conventions that ensure maximal intelligibility of extended conversations on mailing lists, newsgroups and talk pages on wikies, *do* at the very _minimum_ at least truncate the messages you are replying at, to the very minimum necessary to retain context. I confess reading the above missive by you, Gerard, and poring over the text below, that it allegedly is a response to, for a good five minutes or more. I still cannot fathom which particular bit of text -- if any -- it is a message that can be considered to remain on topic; even remotely. KTHX. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen Tell me, how is top-posting worse than derailing a productive thread with an off-topic rant? -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2
2010/6/4 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Hoi, It works indeed best for logged in users. However the statistics show that the main public for particular languages is not where you expect them to be. It is good to be generous in the number of languages that we show in my opinion. Thanks, GerardM Someone said earlier in the thread that the reason the links were hidden in the first place was that they weren't clicked on often in usability studies. But weren't the studies conducted on American people to see how they would edit the English Wikipedia? When you are monolingual and are already on your native language Wikipedia there isn't really a lot of use in going to another language. For multilingual people, though, that is not true at all. So assuming that I understood the reason behind it correctly, it isn't really a valid reason to hide them at all. -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity
2010/5/14 Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org Hi folks, The UX team folks have prepared a new rendering of the mark and it's available for review on the Prototype wiki: http://prototype.wikimedia.org/en.wikipedia.org/Main_Page I've made a short update the conversation thread on commons here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedia/2.0#Logo_revisions_need_input Which is also where you can leave new feedback. I discuss some of the nuances of the appearance of the identity on other browsers there, and I think others have also pointed those out. Please take a look at the prototype version and share your comments on that commons thread. We want to get a range of opinions to ensure it looks optimal on a lot of different browser settings, and also that we consider the observations about the transition from the previous. We'll be collecting feedback through next week and we'll introduce a modification hopefully very shortly after that. FYI the identity looks really, really good in non-digital settings (printed, used in graphic applications etc). There are no major issues with how it translates into real-world objects (banners, posters, pins etc). Thanks for your input, jay -- Jay Walsh Head of Communications WikimediaFoundation.org blog.wikimedia.org +1 (415) 839 6885 x 609, @jansonw ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l That's looking much better! Fantastic. The only small thing I would change is the darkness of the visible inside of the globe, as commented by Nohat here: http://nohat.net/2010/the-awful-new-wikipedia-logo . -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office move completed
2009/10/28 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/27 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: Blog post by Jay is now up: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2009/10/27/wikimedia-finds-a-new-home/ First photos here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Foundation_149_New_Montgomery More pics will come with time for those who can't get enough of seeing office environments. ;-) So who's idea was it to model it after Terry Gilliam's Brazil? -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l We can manage to create 3d copies of the globe but we can't manage to fix the logo? For shame ;-) In all seriousness, new office looks nice. -Chad ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l Oh, that one looks awesome. Merchandise idea - having that 3D logo as a wall lamp would be legen(wait for it)dary. ;-) -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming
2009/8/8 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:09 PM, private musingsthepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: No silly - it's a mistake! (don't be so grumpy. - or be aware that this could come across as grumpy at least) I recall the grumbles when Greg sent something out last year or the year before, and feel the same about this as that - the folk sending the email are using an imperfect system, but overall it's worth it - I'm hope that those feeling personally affronted by such an approach can take solace in something or other, and just generally relax a notch or two :-) Oh, I am not affronted. I am thrilled that the election committee decided that computer engineers should be rewarded for their ingenuity by allowing their fine opinion to be counted twice. This motivates me to write more bots for next year. p.s. can the election committee ensure that votes from bot accounts are not counted?? p.p.s. if I can have another free vote, I will gladly write a bot to help the election committee to discount bot votes... -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l The list of users who have voted is available at https://wikimedia.spi-inc.org/index.php/Special:SecurePoll/list/17 , and I know the committee will be more than happy for any help received. ;-) -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Meadow Mari Wikipedia
LOL! 2009/7/28 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com And for one grope I had introduced Wikipedia myself. Sounds like a bargain. But I think we have laws about conduct in the workplace here in the UK that may preclude this business model, unfortunately. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon
Wikipedias follow the ISO 639 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639language code standard, where uk is the code for the Ukrainian language. The chapter sites, however, use the ISO 3166http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166standard for country codes, and ua is the code for the country of Ukraine. (There is however the fact that the ISO 3166 code for the United Kingdom is gb, while uk is unused; our usage however mirrors that of the country code top level domainshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_code_top-level_domain .) 2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com Hello Teofilo, I appreciate a lot that you rose up this issue of confusion (I was planning to do that myself a bit later). I'm from Ukrainian WP (recently - from WMF chapter for Ukraine as well) and I've met many times those confusions/misunderstandings starting from http://uk.wikipedia.org vs. http://uk.wikimedia.org I'm sure that this issue deserves some portion of attention thorough brainstorming ;) On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Teofiloteofilow...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody; This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at : http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn%27t_it_ ? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] RE; Announcing Philippe Beaudette as the Strategy Project Facilitator
2009/7/19 geni geni...@gmail.com 2009/7/19 Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org: Thanks, Jaroslav - I'm really glad (truly) that there are people like you who think through those issues of values. I want to reinforce that my offer to resign was the very first email that I sent after accepting the job. I think enough of the folks with the Really Big Brains got together and the rest, as they say, is history. But please, please, please, continue to question. More important than getting our process right is getting our ethics right. The extension of the time in which candidates can nominate themselves is not under the control of a third party. Something that so clearly has the potential to influence the candidate pool presents a conflict of interest. Sue's claim it would be hard to find a replacement is not credible considering the number of OTRS, Checkusers and others who have identified themselves to the foundation. When you made the decision not th resign I doubt you could have foreseen the extension issue coming up but it does suggest that conflict of interest resignations should probably be a matter of course rather than debate or convince. -- geni I fail to understand how the extension of the candidacy period can pose a possible conflict of interest on Philippe's part at all. Please explain. -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Donations in a non-existent currency
Unless my memory makes things up (which it occasionally does), those are donations in stocks (as in stock exchange). 2009/4/21 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com According to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:ContributionStatistics, the WMF has received 4 donations, one for nearly $250k, in a currency that doesn't seem to exist (STO). Does anyone know what that is supposed to mean? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Free edition of Norways national encyklopedia Store Norske Leksikon
Their license text indicates that they are aiming o be free as in freedom, but they do not have a proper license as of yet (all it says is that you can use our stuff in the same way as with Wikipedia's stuff, and a bunch of articles are marked with free license, but without specifying that any further). But it does look very promising, in my opinion. 2009/2/26 Ian A. Holton poe...@gmail.com But is it free as in free beer or freedom? --Ian [[User:Poeloq]] On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Finn Rindahl finnrindw...@gmail.com wrote: Since our (WMF) aim is to provide free knowledge, I would say that SNL making a free online edition is a proof of our success more than a new competitor. They have a lot to learn from us, we have a lot to learn from them. And whoever is seeking free knowledge in Norwegian on the web will have more alternatives. Finn Rindahl 2009/2/25 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no Our national lexicon here in Norway, Store Norske Leksikon, went online with its new free edition today. The new edition has user contributed articles. The chief editor says some of the reason for the new edition is the harsh competition from Wikipedia, especially no.wikipedia.org which outnumbered their previous article count last year, now counting 209,079 articles. Also the alternate version nn.wikipedia.org (a variation in Nynorsk) is growing steadilly, now counting 46,466 articles. Store Norske Leksikon now claims they has 300,000 articles after inclusion of two other encyclopedias, a medical encyclopedia Store medisinske leksikon and a biographical encyclopedia Biografisk leksikon. Previously they had 155,000 articles. Wikipedia in bokmål should have 300K articles around February or March next year, it depends on how we will be influenced by the changes in SNL. John Erling Blad jeblad ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Simple English Encyclopedia
We are not, and you're misinterpreting Gerard's post; what he says is that we do not allow any more simple projects; deciding over existing projects is not something we do, and not something we even *want* to do. 2009/2/26 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com I didn't know the language committee was empowered to decide on whether or not Simples were made. I thought your job was to determine valid languages. I absolutely cannot support the continued existence of this body due to these unknown powers and will make my voice known the next time someone offers to can it. From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:19:47 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Simple English Encyclopedia Hoi, Possibly. Now for some cold water. At this moment the policy is explicit. We do not accept any new Simple projects in any language. What I said was that it would be good when there are some good numbers that prove the value of a simple project. Once this is more clear, we may reconsider. Thanks, GerardM 2009/2/25 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com I could be wrong, but I think you're misreading the point here. It's that we should Incubate more Simples in more languages, not that we need a Simple Incubator... -Chad On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, There is no room nor need for a simple Incubator. One suffices. Thanks. GerardM 2009/2/25 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com No, Absolutely not. Eh? No, Absolutely not. to what precisely? You say incubator should be a phase for projects? I said simple should incubate for even larger languages. Where is the No, Absolutely not. directed at? Gerard Meijssen wrote: No, Absolutely not. The Incubator is a vital resource that can easily accomadote any language any project. If anything I would make the Incubator compulsory for ANY project. The reason for this is obvious; the Incubator works. Thanks. GerardM 2009/2/25 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com Andrew Gray wrote: 2009/2/25 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, When the use case of the Simple Wikipedia is better understood, it may even make room for more simple projects as in simple projects in the biggest languages. This is quite an interesting thought. The language used by Simple English is (apparently) derived from two defined simplified versions of English which were deliberately designed - have there been projects to do the same for, say, French or Spanish, or would we have to do the heavy lifting ourselves? My attempt at a constructive contribution to this thread would be to suggest that every Simple Wikipedia language, no matter large or small, should start at a Simple Incubator. The incubator seems a proven concept (it has delivered live babies, yes?). To me it seems a no-brainer that Simple Communities in every language would only activate a sub-set of their languages community, and this implies to me that as such the community could do with bootstrapping in the fashion that incubators do. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki
Re: [Foundation-l] Delete moldovan Wikipedia
Certainly mo-Cyrl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_15924 (or, preforrably ro-Cyrl, as the mo code is obsolete); Moldovan/Romanian is to my knowledge not in any mentionable extent spoken in Cyprushttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1 . 2009/2/5 geni geni...@gmail.com 2009/2/5 Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com: How many times have you sent this request to this list now? Quite a few but since we have agreed that switching to mo-cy is the right thing to do prodding us once a month to try and get the change done is a not unreasonable approach. -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal
Also, I doubt that anything remains of those articles to dive credit for. 2009/1/24 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com 2009/1/24 The Cunctator cuncta...@gmail.com: I'm not sure why we're so stressed out about getting things exactly legally right, since once edit histories for anything created before 2002 / late 2001 were wiped out, any of those articles don't have an accurate author list. True, but since it is unlikely anyone can prove that they wrote those early articles, they can't take any legal action because of it. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] vro
2009/1/23 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se Gerard Meijssen wrote: When we were to move away from a set of URL's from et to ekk, a generic redirect from et to ekk will suffice because there will be a one on one relation. The et named articles will never be used for anything else. This is true because this is how the standard works. The very point of the suggestion to change no.wikipedia into nb.wikipedia is that Nynorsk extremists want to *deny* the Bokmål majority the privilege of using the common no code as theirs. The agenda of these extremists has no room for allowing redirects from no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo to nb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo, because that would perpetuate the Bokmål oppression. In the discussions, even the word occupation has been used. In their mind, the no.* URL should force the reader to pick either the Bokmål or Nynorsk article. That is, to stop and consider that there are more versions of Norwegian than Bokmål. There must be no default. If there is a default (a redirect), then today's naming would seem OK. As long as we recognize Nynorsk speakers some right to claim that no is theirs (too), our naming of sites will continue to get hijacked by such extremists. Our only escape is to refuse to recognize the political meaning of language codes in our domain names, and instead treat them as being just domain names that once assigned should not be changed unless for really good reasons. (Changing fiu-vro to the shorter vro can be a good reason, but changing et to ekk is not.) -- Lars Aronsson (l...@aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se This is a gross misrepresentation, and the summary is very biased. I suggest you read the entire debate on nowp. -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename
This isuue is about to be voted upon on nowiki; Kjetil is a bit too eager here. 2009/1/17 Kjetil Lenes ekkoe...@online.no I have added a bug report, 17047 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17047, wishing to move no.wikipedia.org to nb.wikipediaorg. As several of you know no is the code for both forms of norwegian, both bokmaal (nb) and nynorsk (nn). Since both forms of norwegian have their own wikipedia, the coe should be changed accordingly. -- Kjetil Lenes, Ekko ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename
Sure. The vote will be held here: http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avstemninger/Prefiks It is scheduled to start at 19 Jan and end on 1 Feb. 2009/1/17 Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com Hi Jon, Do you have a link to the voting page so that interested parties may follow it? Thanks Mark 2009/1/17 Jon Harald Søby jhs...@gmail.com: This isuue is about to be voted upon on nowiki; Kjetil is a bit too eager here. 2009/1/17 Kjetil Lenes ekkoe...@online.no I have added a bug report, 17047 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17047, wishing to move no.wikipedia.org to nb.wikipediaorg. As several of you know no is the code for both forms of norwegian, both bokmaal (nb) and nynorsk (nn). Since both forms of norwegian have their own wikipedia, the coe should be changed accordingly. -- Kjetil Lenes, Ekko ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- skype: node.ue ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename
2009/1/11 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@gmail.com 2009/1/10 Cetateanu Moldovanu cetatean...@gmail.com: Hello, I want to wish you all a Happy New Year ! Also, I'd like to know what's the progress of renaming the subdomain mo to mo-cyrl mo.wikipedia.org - mo-cyrl.wikipedia.org, as was stated in november last year, an important issue for us. For whom? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni Non-Transnistrian Moldovans. -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Good news! Fundraiser officially passes 6m mark!
2009/1/1 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com 2009/1/1 Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org: To put that in context: In 2008-09, prior to the launch of the fundraiser, we had received just under two million dollars in donations and commitments from a mix of foundations, individual donors and business development revenues. (That includes the 08-09 1m from Sloan, which will arrive this month.) Since its launch, the fundraiser has brought in a little over four million dollars. This means we currently have received in 08-09 a total of 6.1 million dollars, which will fully cover our projected 08-09 costs. Isn't there still another $1.9m needed to meet this year's planned budget? (This means: Keep going! Full steam ahead! All the way to January 10th!) - d. I thought it was supposed to end Jan 15th, to coincide with Wikipedia Day. Or is my memory wrong? A thank you banner will be nice (I've already seen it, so I know ;-) ), and be a nice touch. (Also, is this the first time the fundraiser has reached its goal? AFAIR http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/AFAIR, it didn't last year (or the year before that?), so this is an improvement.) -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Jimmy Wales donation appeal
2008/12/23 Petr Kadlec petr.kad...@gmail.com 2008/12/23 effe iets anders effeietsand...@gmail.com: As said, a slightly smaller font, and a grey color could do miracles here. Also, note that on IE7 in 1024x768, the banner (on Commons, at least) looks terrible -- the last line (Wikipedia Founder Jimmy Wales) goes under the banner border, so that it is stricken through with that red line (while there is a huge empty margin above the Please Read:). Tried Ctrl+F5, no change. -- [[cs:User:Mormegil | Petr Kadlec]] The same problem happens in a proper browser (FF 3.1b2) on 1280x960. It does not look good. -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] 80% of our projects are failing
Sorry, but to me this just sounds like FUD. Do you have any information to back up your claims about small wikis deteriorating? Don't forget, these are WIKIS we are talking about. In WIKIS everyone can change the content, and even though people may add bad content, they may also add good content (and believe it or not, there is functionality that makes people able to remove bad edits!). You're applying the problems of the large wikis to the smaller ones, which is not really appropriate, because they are on completely different levels. Sure, the smaller wikis have problems as well, but they are very different from the problems enwiki and dewiki are having. 2008/12/1 Christiano Moreschi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you forgotten that these are WIKIS we are talking about? It's not just a matter of translation: the technology isn't there to do it automatically and we don't have the manpower do it manually. Even if the technology were there, it's a WIKI. Unlike your friend's translations, our content can drastically deteriorate and become useless overnight if nobody's watching it. CM Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:58:54 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] 80% of our projects are failing Hoi, EMC2 is a company who sells storage solutions to big companies. I was at a presentation of their documentation manager. He informed his audience that the people who buy their products invariably state that they prefer the English documentation. They always get the translations as well. The benefit to EMC2 is that they sell more products. The translation of their documentation adds pennies to the pound in costs, costs that are easily offset by the increased sales. The point is that people understand things better when they are addressed in their own language EVEN when they can read the language that is foreign to them. Thanks, GerardM 2008/11/30 geni [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/11/30 effe iets anders [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Because bear in mind, especially in those languages, a complemented work of human knowledge really adds something. In the large languages, we already had encyclopediae and dictionaries of good quality. Wikipedia is better sure, and has improved our lives. But now just imagine that you are living in Botswana, and on school (if you're lucky) there is very little material available... and now there is an encyclopedia... In YOUR language! English is an official language of Botswana. Quite a lot of African countries move to English or French for education above a certain level. Even if it only contains 1000 articles, ~102 articles currently. you can already learn a lot from it. You can improve your knowledge, and increase the odds in competition with the western world. What is Tswana for mass spectrometry (looking at the translations for that term across European languages is mildly amusing) ? There are large areas where if you don't speak english you can't operate in that area. There is nothing wikimedia can do about this. Highly questionable if we would even want to. This doesn't mean we should give up on many languages but it does mean that we have to accept that the educated people from those countries may not want to use them and there is a significant risk of them becoming POV forks. -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l _ BigSnapSearch.com - 24 prizes a day, every day - Search Now! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] List summaries
Adding icons is a good idea. Maybe an icon for official announcements from the Foundation as well? 2008/12/1 phoebe ayers [EMAIL PROTECTED] New mailing list summaries: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LSS/foundation-l-archives/2008_November_16-30 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LSS/wikiEN-l-archives/2008_11_16-30 (I won't do this every time one is posted, but just in case people missed the last note about the list summary service reboot...) Also, a question: would weekly summaries be more useful? I'm thinking of going back to that instead of biweekly. Any other suggestions? Effeietsanders suggested icons for particularly extensive discussions. I'm thinking this one for particularly controversial topics: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nuvola_apps_core.png ;) best, -- phoebe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
