Re: GNOME: lack of strategic roadmap

2010-03-01 Thread Richard Stallman 
It would make more sense perhaps to ask why you need a centralised web
site for this rather than tying it together distributed sites and people
together through links in the same way that rss permits news to be
aggregated without there being some central repository of the world's
news.

I agree that is the better direction to take.  But I am not proposing
that we, in GNOME, undertake to replace Facebook in any fashion.  That
would be far outside the scope of GNOME.

I am only saying that if we develop software specifically to work with
Facebook, we should take care to prevent it from conveying the message
"Use Facebook!"
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Re: GNOME: lack of strategic roadmap

2010-03-01 Thread Richard Stallman 
The information about Facebook and the CIA comes from The Guardian.
See http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jan/14/facebook.

Since it was proposed to write software specifically to talk with
Facebook, I mentioned the issues this would raise.  But Facebook is an
example of a more general point: any time we consider developing
software to work with a certain web site, we should ask ourselves
whether we want to single out that web site for the special
endorsement and promotion that is implicit in releasing such software.

Different sites raise different issues, and our judgments won't be the
same for all of them.  The point is that we ought to think about the
question, rather than promote use of a site simply because many people
are already using it.

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Re: Stormy's Update: Weeks of February 15th and 22nd

2010-03-01 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo 
El lun, 01-03-2010 a las 21:54 +0100, Vincent Untz escribió:
> Le lundi 01 mars 2010, à 11:02 -0800, Luis Villa a écrit :
> > 2010/3/1 Stormy Peters :
> > > GNOME Foundation IRC meeting.
> > 
> > How did this go?
> 
> I guess I spoke way too much ;-) The discussion was mostly about how to
> prepare a roadmap for GNOME, and how to communicate it.
> 
> There's an IRC log and maybe even minutes, but, hrm, it's not readable
> for me:
>   http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/IRC20100227
> 

Yeah I kind of broke the ACL :-). Only Javier Jardón can *read* and
write it. Any admin around? #lalala

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Re: Stormy's Update: Weeks of February 15th and 22nd

2010-03-01 Thread Stormy Peters 
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Luis Villa  wrote:

> 2010/3/1 Stormy Peters :
> > GNOME Foundation IRC meeting.
>
> How did this go?
>

It went well with lots of discussion about GNOME 3, GNOME 4 and roadmaps.

We've had two of these meetings and they've been very different as the
topics have been different.

I'd like to encourage people to add topics to the agenda beforehand. It's a
chance to discuss topics within the community and with the board.

Stormy
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Re: Stormy's Update: Weeks of February 15th and 22nd

2010-03-01 Thread Vincent Untz 
Le lundi 01 mars 2010, à 11:02 -0800, Luis Villa a écrit :
> 2010/3/1 Stormy Peters :
> > GNOME Foundation IRC meeting.
> 
> How did this go?

I guess I spoke way too much ;-) The discussion was mostly about how to
prepare a roadmap for GNOME, and how to communicate it.

There's an IRC log and maybe even minutes, but, hrm, it's not readable
for me:
  http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/IRC20100227

It'd be nice to have more people attending, though. We'd love to hear
how to make it more convenient for people to attend. For example, we
know that the time is not good for our australian friends, and we'll try
to fix this one way or another, but I'm sure we could have more people
even at this time. So how can we improve things? More items on the
agenda? Send a meeting reminder earlier?

Vincent

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Re: Stormy's Update: Weeks of February 15th and 22nd

2010-03-01 Thread Luis Villa 
2010/3/1 Stormy Peters :
> GNOME Foundation IRC meeting.

How did this go?

(And as for feedback: I think these are terrific; please keep them coming!)

Luis
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Stormy's Update: Weeks of February 15th and 22nd

2010-03-01 Thread Stormy Peters 
I think the number of different projects and conversations I am having has
maxed out my multiprocessing capabilities. This week I am going to spend
more time logged out of email and working on one project at a time.

Last week I:

   - Presented at IASA . Great conversation.
   Very interactive group. Made a couple of local government contacts - people
   involved in promoting open source in government IT infrastructure.
   - Attended OSS Watch  phone Advisory Board
   Meeting.
   - Worked on GUADEC sponsorship. It's coming along well. Still waiting for
   a lot of people to finalize plans through.
   - Advisory board meetings. Met with several more adboard members - still
   haven't met with everyone though!
   - Board meeting.
   - GNOME Foundation IRC meeting.
   - Several good meetings with Rosanna.
   - Updating the Friends of GNOME gifts spreadsheet for Rosanna (ping her a
   lot with questions.) I sent her the list of Friends of GNOME Adopt a Hacker
   folks who have earned their tshirt!
   - Sent new Adopt a Hacker folks contact info to people that will send
   them post cards.
   - Settled on date and location for Meet the Funders in California. Need
   to finalize date for New York.
   - Looked into adding conversion tracking to our GNOME ads on Google
   Adwords.
   - Attended Women's Caucus meeting. They will have an all day track Sunday
   at Libre Planet.
   - Attended the Grace Hopper Open Source track committee meeting.
   - Didn't attend the OpenWorld Forum meeting as they only dial in number
   was an international number.
   - Agreed to give GNOME keynote at LinuxTag. Johannes Schmid agreed to put
   together the GNOME track. Please contact him if you are interested in
   
speakingabout
GNOME at LinuxTag.
   - Sent out thank you email to Friends of GNOME
   .
   - Worried about all the GNOME folks in
Chile
   .
   - I think we are almost ready to launch the Friends of GNOME ruler. At
   least it looks very good and I wrote an intro email for the launch!
   - Students on Project Possibility picked several GNOME projects - work on
   Caribou and Orca.
   - Worked on GNOME's participation at Idlelo 4 .
   Vincent is also working on this.
   - Had a gazillion email conversations on a trillion different topics.

 This week:

   - Letter for annual report.
   - Friends of GNOME  & Google ads: conversion
   tracking codes and landing pages.
   - Finish Friends of GNOME gift spreadsheet update.
   - Make sure all GNOME events are on track and well represented by
   speakers. Help if I can. (Finding people, not attending them all!)
   - Catch up on all my email conversations and make sure nobody is waiting
   on me ...

I get very little feedback to these updates. Feel free to leave feedback,
ideas or comments.
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