Re: Meeting Minutes Published - August 19, 2010

2010-09-03 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Brian Cameron wrote:
 * GNOME Trademarks
   o TM can claim without formal registration
   o Do we want a (R) registered trademark on the correct GNOME
 foot / logo?
   o GNOME foot (old) has a registered trademark
   o French website
 + ACTION: Bastien to send the French website a
   follow-up email about GNOME Trademarks

Luis worked on cleaning up GNOME's trademark story around 2006-07 - it
would be worthwhile asking him the current situation, since he is the
one who took charge of the issue back then. As far as I know, we
registered the GNOME foot + wordmark in the US through Wilson Sonsini.

 * Bastien - To contact some international banks for the possibility
   of a US-based dual-currency account (probably will not work, as
   Stormy already did research.

Just a data point: Louis Desjardins mentioned to me recently that he has
opened a CAD/USD/EUR account in Canada. I *guess* that international
bank transfer charges will still be expensive.

 * Jorge - Check records of organizations with existing contracts to
   use the GNOME trademark. Taken over from Vincent. Look at the
   archives in 2005 and try to determine which companies can use the
   GNOME trademark. Know what kind of contracts we had with them.

I can help fill in some gaps here - there's Killermundi, Hackerthreads,
a jewellery creator (although I think his license has lapsed now).

While I was on the board, I worked with James Vasile on a trademark
license contract, which should be part of the material the board has,
for that jeweller, and James tried to make something modular that could
be reused. That contract has no automatic renewal clause, and ran for an
X year term (X=2 is set in a prefix). I have the last revision we came
up with (Stormy should have it too, and it's in board-list archives).
Let me know if you want me to send it on.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: Meeting Minutes Published - August 19, 2010

2010-09-03 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 09/03/10 04:48, Dave Neary wrote:
 While I was on the board, I worked with James Vasile on a trademark
 license contract, which should be part of the material the board has,
 for that jeweller, and James tried to make something modular that could
 be reused. That contract has no automatic renewal clause, and ran for an
 X year term (X=2 is set in a prefix). I have the last revision we came
 up with (Stormy should have it too, and it's in board-list archives).
 Let me know if you want me to send it on.

When I was last on board I had started gathering such documents here:

  http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoardPrivate/Documents

But can't find them anymore.  Either someone removed that page or I'm not
allowed to see it (which I assumed as a previous board member I would be).

behdad
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Re: Meeting Minutes Published - August 19, 2010

2010-09-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 10:48 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Brian Cameron wrote:
  * GNOME Trademarks
o TM can claim without formal registration
o Do we want a (R) registered trademark on the correct GNOME
  foot / logo?
o GNOME foot (old) has a registered trademark
o French website
  + ACTION: Bastien to send the French website a
follow-up email about GNOME Trademarks
 
 Luis worked on cleaning up GNOME's trademark story around 2006-07 - it
 would be worthwhile asking him the current situation, since he is the
 one who took charge of the issue back then. As far as I know, we
 registered the GNOME foot + wordmark in the US through Wilson Sonsini.
 
  * Bastien - To contact some international banks for the possibility
of a US-based dual-currency account (probably will not work, as
Stormy already did research.
 
 Just a data point: Louis Desjardins mentioned to me recently that he has
 opened a CAD/USD/EUR account in Canada. I *guess* that international
 bank transfer charges will still be expensive.

Except that the US banks seem to like providing below standard services.
I completely failed to find a bank that would offer the type of services
we're looking for, at a reasonable cost to us.

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Re: Meeting Minutes Published - August 19, 2010

2010-09-03 Thread Frederic Crozat
2010/9/3 Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org:

     * Bastien - To contact some international banks for the possibility
       of a US-based dual-currency account (probably will not work, as
       Stormy already did research.

 Just a data point: Louis Desjardins mentioned to me recently that he has
 opened a CAD/USD/EUR account in Canada. I *guess* that international
 bank transfer charges will still be expensive.

One thing to keep in mind :

EU regulation forced EU banks to apply the exact same rate in intra-EU
bank transfer rate as the one used in the country where the account is
located (and in general, at least in France, it means it is free, when
done using Internet) : so it would probably a good idea to have a
account in EU (GNOME-FR has an account, I don't know if it could be
used for that).
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Re: Meeting Minutes Published - August 19, 2010

2010-09-03 Thread Germán Póo-Caamaño
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 11:07 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
 On 09/03/10 04:48, Dave Neary wrote:
  While I was on the board, I worked with James Vasile on a trademark
  license contract, which should be part of the material the board has,
  for that jeweller, and James tried to make something modular that could
  be reused. That contract has no automatic renewal clause, and ran for an
  X year term (X=2 is set in a prefix). I have the last revision we came
  up with (Stormy should have it too, and it's in board-list archives).
  Let me know if you want me to send it on.
 
 When I was last on board I had started gathering such documents here:
 
   http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoardPrivate/Documents
 
 But can't find them anymore.  Either someone removed that page or I'm not
 allowed to see it (which I assumed as a previous board member I would be).

There was a reorganization of the wiki page on March 2010, several
things were made public.  

Did you take a look at http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Resources ?

Regards,

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http://www.gnome.org/~gpoo/


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Re: Meeting Minutes Published - August 19, 2010

2010-09-03 Thread Brian Cameron


Dave:

On 09/ 3/10 03:48 AM, Dave Neary wrote:

Hi,

Brian Cameron wrote:

 * GNOME Trademarks
   o TM can claim without formal registration
   o Do we want a (R) registered trademark on the correct GNOME
 foot / logo?
   o GNOME foot (old) has a registered trademark
   o French website
 + ACTION: Bastien to send the French website a
   follow-up email about GNOME Trademarks


Luis worked on cleaning up GNOME's trademark story around 2006-07 - it
would be worthwhile asking him the current situation, since he is the
one who took charge of the issue back then. As far as I know, we
registered the GNOME foot + wordmark in the US through Wilson Sonsini.


I have been working with James Vasile and Luis on this.  We have, for
example, been working to update the forms to address some of the
issues that have been raised over the years.  We also wrote a FAQ.
Eventually I'd like to see these migrate to the fdo website, but we
are still discussing some points with James.

  http://live.gnome.org/Trademark


 * Jorge - Check records of organizations with existing contracts to
   use the GNOME trademark. Taken over from Vincent. Look at the
   archives in 2005 and try to determine which companies can use the
   GNOME trademark. Know what kind of contracts we had with them.


I can help fill in some gaps here - there's Killermundi, Hackerthreads,
a jewellery creator (although I think his license has lapsed now).


I hadn't been aware of Killermundi.  Do you have a contact person?
I am talking with the people from Hackerthreads and know what's going
on with that.

The jewelry creator never got off the ground.  We prepared the form,
but they seemed to lose interest at the last minute and never signed
it.


While I was on the board, I worked with James Vasile on a trademark
license contract, which should be part of the material the board has,
for that jeweller, and James tried to make something modular that could
be reused. That contract has no automatic renewal clause, and ran for an
X year term (X=2 is set in a prefix). I have the last revision we came
up with (Stormy should have it too, and it's in board-list archives).
Let me know if you want me to send it on.


I think the forms on the website I show above are the latest iterations
of the forms intended to be modular.

Brian


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Re: Meeting Minutes Published - August 19, 2010

2010-09-03 Thread Brian Cameron


Behdad:

On 09/ 3/10 10:07 AM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:

On 09/03/10 04:48, Dave Neary wrote:
When I was last on board I had started gathering such documents here:

   http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoardPrivate/Documents

But can't find them anymore.  Either someone removed that page or I'm not
allowed to see it (which I assumed as a previous board member I would be).


We have archived all the forms on a different page.  Though I wasn't
aware of Hackermundi before, so I will need to track down that one.  If
anyone has any pointers, or even can highlight about when discussions
went on with them, then that would help me dig through the email
archives.

Brian
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Meeting Minutes Published - August 19, 2010

2010-09-02 Thread Brian Cameron


The meeting minutes for the August 19th GNOME Foundation board meeting
is now published.  Refer here:

 http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20100819

Other past board meetings are archived here:

 http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes

-- text of the latest minutes follows --

Minutes for Meeting of August 19th, 2010

Next Meeting

* September 2nd, 2010

Attending

* Andreas Nilsson
* Bastien Nocera
* Og Maciel (late)
* Paul Cutler
* Rosanna Yuen
* Stormy Peters

Regrets

* Brian Cameron (GNOME.Asia)
* Emily Chen (GNOME.Asia)
* Germán Póo-Caamaño

Missing

Recurring Items

* Review past action items.
* Did each person with action items send their status reports to
  the board list before the meeting?
* Approve and make sure that minutes of last meeting were published
  to foundation-announce and foundation-list.
* Make sure to start up the gobby server for better note taking.
* Update foundation.gnome.org website.

New Items

* Annual Report
  o Daniel Galleguillos needs some feedback. Andreas will look
at it right after the meeting.
+ ACTION: Andreas will get feedback for the Annual
  Report for Daniel Galleguillos.

* 2010 Q2 GNOME Quarterly Report Update
  o All reports now in! Just need to put in format; Vinicius
Depizzol will help. Hope to be done by Monday.

* Fiscal Year Budgeting Process.
  o Been discussing process. First step is to reach out to
local user groups. About to kick off process. Everyone
needs to help - cannot be all German.

* GNOME IRC Meeting
 o Define topics. Paul Cutler will start a brainstorming
   process for the topics.

* Boston Summit
  o Fees for the venue. The organizers are working on getting
free rooms. John (J5) Palmieri has pinged them every week
or so and we have not heard back in a while.

* Hackfests
  o GTK+ and WebKitGTK+
+ Both are a go.
+ Do they need funding? Have they done fundraising?
+ ACTION: Andreas will find out if the GTK+ and
  WebKitGTK+ Hackfests need help fundraising.
  o Developer Docs. Looks good now with goals and lots of good
attendees.
  o Dave Richards from the City of Largo would like to host a
hackfest at the Boston Summit. He is particularly
interested in something around thin clients.
+ ACTION: Bastien will reach out to Dave Richards from
  the City of Largo to plan for a hackfest there.
  o Board mentors for hackfest organizers idea.
+ ACTION: Stormy will ask Diego Urrelo if he would like
  to continue to work on the board mentors for hackfest
  organizers idea.

* Nokia Proposal
  o We met with Nokia to discuss Bastien's proposal: use
$50,000 to contract out work to make GTK+ et al work on the
platform. They were in agreement. Bastien is now writing up
a call for bids. MeeGo might be interested in helping with
events around underlying technologies.
+ ACTION: Bastien to write up a call for bids for Nokia
  proposal, and discuss the technology with people from
  Nokia.

* GNOME 3 as a Foundation Goal
  o Discussion with membership
  o Emails sent to foundation-list, but not much response.
Should we run another survey?
+ We want to do another survey for sure (keep questions
  simple)
+ ACTION: Og to help in getting the GNOME 3 as a
  Foundation Goal survey topics together
+ ACTION: Stormy to share feedback on how to build the
  questions for the GNOME 3 as a Foundation Goal
  survey.

* Advisory Board fees for small businesses
  o ACTION: Paul will follow-up with Board to read the Advisory
Board fees for small businesses proposal, ask for feedback
and set a date to vote by.

* Initial Marketing Contract
  o Please vote. Any questions?

* security@ being an alias for board-list
  o Followed up, just need to do it (security@ or release-
team-private@ ?)

* GNOME IRC Meeting
  o Schedule next (no QA at AGM)

* Mentoring new board members program
  o Create a mail list like: board-men...@gnome.org ? (Pending
to Paul)
  o Collect mentor wish list from mentees.

* Marketing arrangement for Ronaldo Padula (Loja Geek Depto
  Comercial) to sell GNOME branded merchandise in Brazil.
  o Email was sent to Ronaldo but he has not replied. Og will
follow up.

* GnuCash -