RE: atw: Frame query

[Al Friend]

Instead of removing the stuff in front of the graphic, you can just select
each item in turn and send it to back. Evenually you'll be able to grab
the unwanted graphic and remove it. 


 
Al Friend
Howell Laboratories, Inc.
Bridgton, ME 04009 USA
207-647-3327

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Subject: Re: atw: Frame query

Jill:

 If anyone is back at work yet - how can I get rid of a graphic I have
'sent to back'. 
 In this case it is only a circle. I have looked up help and couldn't
find anything.

A graphic exists in a context.  On a page, the context is the page's 
border, so that the 
graphic is in a z-ordinate or list from front to back with everything else 
on that page.
In an anchored frame, the graphic is in a front-to-back list with 
everything else in the 
anchored frame.

Save a back up of the file.

Ctrl-click each item that lies in front of the graphic item. Cut them to 
the clipboard.
Click on the unwanted graphic and delete it.  Select the context: in a 
page, click in the 
margin outside the text frame, in an anchored frame, Ctrl-click the 
border.

It is important to  select the context at this point because the x-y 
coordinates of the items 
on the clipboard are preserved and applied to position them in their 
original locations 
provided they are pasted back into the context whence they were cut.

Now paste from the clipboard.

Hope this helps, 
Hedley

--
Hedley Finger
Technical Communications Tools  Processes Specialist
MYOB Australia http://myob.com/au
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia
mailto:hedleyDOTfingerATmyobDOTcom
Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421,   Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558

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RE: atw: Frame query

[Lester C. Smalley]

FrameMaker's clipboard is only one object deep (at least it is in the
Window's versions, can't say for Macintosh) so multiple cut operations
will delete anything except the last item sent to the clipboard via cut
or copy.

I find it far safer to simply select items in front of the unwanted
object via control-click and send them to the back, repeating as
necessary if there is more than one overlying the target of my removal
(e.g. the circle in this case).

You can usually also grab the background object alone by
drag-selecting it (hold the left mouse button down and drag a selection
rectangle starting in a position such that you do not enclose the text
frame), and then either delete it, cut it to the clipboard, or bring it
to the front again.
 
On Monday, January 02, 2006 10:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| Jill:
| 
|  If anyone is back at work yet - how can I get rid of a graphic I
have
| 'sent to back'. 
|  In this case it is only a circle. I have looked up help and couldn't
| find anything.
| 
| A graphic exists in a context.  On a page, the context is the page's
| border, so that the graphic is in a z-ordinate or list from front to
| back with everything else on that page.  In an anchored frame, the
| graphic is in a front-to-back list with everything else in the
| anchored frame.
| 
| Save a back up of the file.
| 
| Ctrl-click each item that lies in front of the graphic item. 
| Cut them to the clipboard.
| Click on the unwanted graphic and delete it.
| Select the context: in a page, click in the margin outside the text
| frame, in an anchored frame, Ctrl-click the border.
| 
| It is important to select the context at this point because the x-y 
| coordinates of the items on the clipboard are preserved and applied 
| to position them in their original locations provided they are pasted
|  back into the context whence they were cut.
| 
| Now paste from the clipboard.
| 
| Hope this helps, 
| Hedley

- Lester 
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Information Consultants, Inc.  Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712
Yorklyn, DE  19736   Web: www.infocon.com   
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RE: atw: Frame query

[Niels Fanøe]

Or you can select whatever is in front and then Alt+Arrow it to one side until 
you can select and delete the offending graphic. Then Alt-Arrow the former 
selection back the same amount of Arrow-depressions. (Remember to count the 
first time around!)

-Niels  

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 On Behalf Of Lester C. Smalley
 Sent: 3. januar 2006 13:12
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 Subject: RE: atw: Frame query
 
 FrameMaker's clipboard is only one object deep (at least it 
 is in the Window's versions, can't say for Macintosh) so 
 multiple cut operations will delete anything except the last 
 item sent to the clipboard via cut or copy.
 
 I find it far safer to simply select items in front of the 
 unwanted object via control-click and send them to the back, 
 repeating as necessary if there is more than one overlying 
 the target of my removal (e.g. the circle in this case).
 
 You can usually also grab the background object alone by 
 drag-selecting it (hold the left mouse button down and drag a 
 selection rectangle starting in a position such that you do 
 not enclose the text frame), and then either delete it, cut 
 it to the clipboard, or bring it to the front again.
  
 On Monday, January 02, 2006 10:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 | Jill:
 | 
 |  If anyone is back at work yet - how can I get rid of a graphic I
 have
 | 'sent to back'. 
 |  In this case it is only a circle. I have looked up help 
 and couldn't
 | find anything.
 | 
 | A graphic exists in a context.  On a page, the context is 
 the page's 
 | border, so that the graphic is in a z-ordinate or list from 
 front to 
 | back with everything else on that page.  In an anchored frame, the 
 | graphic is in a front-to-back list with everything else in the 
 | anchored frame.
 | 
 | Save a back up of the file.
 | 
 | Ctrl-click each item that lies in front of the graphic item. 
 | Cut them to the clipboard.
 | Click on the unwanted graphic and delete it.
 | Select the context: in a page, click in the margin outside the text 
 | frame, in an anchored frame, Ctrl-click the border.
 | 
 | It is important to select the context at this point because the x-y 
 | coordinates of the items on the clipboard are preserved and 
 applied to 
 | position them in their original locations provided they are pasted  
 | back into the context whence they were cut.
 | 
 | Now paste from the clipboard.
 | 
 | Hope this helps,
 | Hedley
 
 - Lester
 ---
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 Yorklyn, DE  19736   Web: www.infocon.com 
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Watermark

[Frank Harper]

I am using FM 7.1p114 on a Windows XP Pro.

I have a title document of a book that has a large graphic on the first page as 
a watermark. I created this last August and have used it successfully ever 
since. 

When I opened it today, the graphic was grey, indicating that the link was 
missing. 

When I re-imported the graphic on my First master page and placed it behind the 
text box, it now interferes with the text in the text frame on the body page. 

I am not sure if I am having a senior moment, but I think that the graphic 
should not interfere with the text since it is a background graphic not in an 
anchored frame. Is it time for me to toddle off to the old-folks home or is 
something else happening. This is the same graphic and is in .png format.

Help!

Frank Harper
Frustrated in Alpharetta

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HIDS, Incorporated
678.525.8420
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atw: Frame query

[Lester C. Smalley]

FrameMaker's clipboard is only one object deep (at least it is in the
Window's versions, can't say for Macintosh) so multiple cut operations
will delete anything except the last item sent to the clipboard via cut
or copy.

I find it far safer to simply select items in front of the unwanted
object via control-click and send them to the back, repeating as
necessary if there is more than one overlying the target of my removal
(e.g. the circle in this case).

You can usually also grab the "background" object alone by
drag-selecting it (hold the left mouse button down and drag a selection
rectangle starting in a position such that you do not enclose the text
frame), and then either delete it, cut it to the clipboard, or bring it
to the front again.

On Monday, January 02, 2006 10:30 PM, hedley.finger at myob.com wrote:

| Jill:
| 
| > If anyone is back at work yet - how can I get rid of a graphic I
have
| 'sent to back'. 
| > In this case it is only a circle. I have looked up help and couldn't
| find anything.
| 
| A graphic exists in a context.  On a page, the context is the page's
| border, so that the graphic is in a z-ordinate or list from front to
| back with everything else on that page.  In an anchored frame, the
| graphic is in a front-to-back list with everything else in the
| anchored frame.
| 
| Save a back up of the file.
| 
| Ctrl-click each item that lies in front of the graphic item. 
| Cut them to the clipboard.
| Click on the unwanted graphic and delete it.
| Select the context: in a page, click in the margin outside the text
| frame, in an anchored frame, Ctrl-click the border.
| 
| It is important to select the context at this point because the x-y 
| coordinates of the items on the clipboard are preserved and applied 
| to position them in their original locations provided they are pasted
|  back into the context whence they were cut.
| 
| Now paste from the clipboard.
| 
| Hope this helps, 
| Hedley

- Lester 
---
Lester C. Smalley  Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com   
Information Consultants, Inc.  Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712
Yorklyn, DE  19736   Web: www.infocon.com   
---

Israeli FrameMaker user group meeting, January 23 (6:30pm)

[Shlomo Perets]

Next meeting of the FrameMaker user group will be held Monday, January 23 
(6:30pm), in Yehud
(thanks to Mercury Interactive for hosting this meeting!)

Topics include:

* Working with TemplateMapper (FrameMaker plug-in) -- Andy Lewis

* "Apply Master Pages" function (FM7.x) -- Shlomo Perets

* Extracting information from engineers -- Jack Shasha


Admission is free; registration required.

To join the Israeli FrameMaker user group, please write to 
Framers_Israel at microtype.com



Shlomo Perets

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FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants
Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Technical Indexing seminars

atw: Frame query

[hedley.fin...@myob.com]

Jill:

> If anyone is back at work yet - how can I get rid of a graphic I have 
'sent to back'. 
> In this case it is only a circle. I have looked up help and couldn't 
find anything.

A graphic exists in a context.  On a page, the context is the page's 
border, so that the 
graphic is in a z-ordinate or list from front to back with everything else 
on that page.
In an anchored frame, the graphic is in a front-to-back list with 
everything else in the 
anchored frame.

Save a back up of the file.

Ctrl-click each item that lies in front of the graphic item. Cut them to 
the clipboard.
Click on the unwanted graphic and delete it.  Select the context: in a 
page, click in the 
margin outside the text frame, in an anchored frame, Ctrl-click the 
border.

It is important to  select the context at this point because the x-y 
coordinates of the items 
on the clipboard are preserved and applied to position them in their 
original locations 
provided they are pasted back into the context whence they were cut.

Now paste from the clipboard.

Hope this helps, 
Hedley

--
Hedley Finger
Technical Communications Tools & Processes Specialist
MYOB Australia 
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia

Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421,   Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558

? MYOB Technology Pty Ltd 2005

atw: Frame query

[Niels Fanøe]

Or you can select whatever is in front and then Alt+Arrow it to one side until 
you can select and delete the offending graphic. Then Alt-Arrow the former 
selection back the same amount of Arrow-depressions. (Remember to count the 
first time around!)

-Niels  

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+nfa=maconomy.dk at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+nfa=maconomy.dk at lists.frameusers.com] 
> On Behalf Of Lester C. Smalley
> Sent: 3. januar 2006 13:12
> To: hedley.finger at myob.com; austechwriter at freelists.org; 
> framers at omsys.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: atw: Frame query
> 
> FrameMaker's clipboard is only one object deep (at least it 
> is in the Window's versions, can't say for Macintosh) so 
> multiple cut operations will delete anything except the last 
> item sent to the clipboard via cut or copy.
> 
> I find it far safer to simply select items in front of the 
> unwanted object via control-click and send them to the back, 
> repeating as necessary if there is more than one overlying 
> the target of my removal (e.g. the circle in this case).
> 
> You can usually also grab the "background" object alone by 
> drag-selecting it (hold the left mouse button down and drag a 
> selection rectangle starting in a position such that you do 
> not enclose the text frame), and then either delete it, cut 
> it to the clipboard, or bring it to the front again.
>  
> On Monday, January 02, 2006 10:30 PM, hedley.finger at myob.com wrote:
> 
> | Jill:
> | 
> | > If anyone is back at work yet - how can I get rid of a graphic I
> have
> | 'sent to back'. 
> | > In this case it is only a circle. I have looked up help 
> and couldn't
> | find anything.
> | 
> | A graphic exists in a context.  On a page, the context is 
> the page's 
> | border, so that the graphic is in a z-ordinate or list from 
> front to 
> | back with everything else on that page.  In an anchored frame, the 
> | graphic is in a front-to-back list with everything else in the 
> | anchored frame.
> | 
> | Save a back up of the file.
> | 
> | Ctrl-click each item that lies in front of the graphic item. 
> | Cut them to the clipboard.
> | Click on the unwanted graphic and delete it.
> | Select the context: in a page, click in the margin outside the text 
> | frame, in an anchored frame, Ctrl-click the border.
> | 
> | It is important to select the context at this point because the x-y 
> | coordinates of the items on the clipboard are preserved and 
> applied to 
> | position them in their original locations provided they are pasted  
> | back into the context whence they were cut.
> | 
> | Now paste from the clipboard.
> | 
> | Hope this helps,
> | Hedley
> 
> - Lester
> ---
> Lester C. Smalley  Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com 
> Information Consultants, Inc.  Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712  
> Yorklyn, DE  19736   Web: www.infocon.com 
> ---
> 
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Watermark

[Frank Harper]

I am using FM 7.1p114 on a Windows XP Pro.

I have a title document of a book that has a large graphic on the first page as 
a watermark. I created this last August and have used it successfully ever 
since. 

When I opened it today, the graphic was grey, indicating that the link was 
missing. 

When I re-imported the graphic on my First master page and placed it behind the 
text box, it now interferes with the text in the text frame on the body page. 

I am not sure if I am having a senior moment, but I think that the graphic 
should not interfere with the text since it is a background graphic not in an 
anchored frame. Is it time for me to toddle off to the old-folks home or is 
something else happening. This is the same graphic and is in .png format.

Help!

Frank Harper
Frustrated in Alpharetta

---
Hermann Frank Harper
HIDS, Incorporated
678.525.8420

atw: Frame query

[Al Friend]

Instead of removing the stuff in front of the graphic, you can just select
each item in turn and "send it to back." Evenually you'll be able to grab
the unwanted graphic and remove it. 



Al Friend
Howell Laboratories, Inc.
Bridgton, ME 04009 USA
207-647-3327

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From: owner-framers at omsys.com [mailto:owner-fram...@omsys.com] On Behalf Of
hedley.finger at myob.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:30 PM
To: austechwriter at freelists.org; framers at omsys.com;
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: atw: Frame query

Jill:

> If anyone is back at work yet - how can I get rid of a graphic I have
'sent to back'. 
> In this case it is only a circle. I have looked up help and couldn't
find anything.

A graphic exists in a context.  On a page, the context is the page's 
border, so that the 
graphic is in a z-ordinate or list from front to back with everything else 
on that page.
In an anchored frame, the graphic is in a front-to-back list with 
everything else in the 
anchored frame.

Save a back up of the file.

Ctrl-click each item that lies in front of the graphic item. Cut them to 
the clipboard.
Click on the unwanted graphic and delete it.  Select the context: in a 
page, click in the 
margin outside the text frame, in an anchored frame, Ctrl-click the 
border.

It is important to  select the context at this point because the x-y 
coordinates of the items 
on the clipboard are preserved and applied to position them in their 
original locations 
provided they are pasted back into the context whence they were cut.

Now paste from the clipboard.

Hope this helps, 
Hedley

--
Hedley Finger
Technical Communications Tools & Processes Specialist
MYOB Australia 
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia

Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421,   Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558

C MYOB Technology Pty Ltd 2005


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