Re: FrameMaker in Hebrew

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Here the link to the fonts:
http://www.jewishsoftware.com/products/Hebrew_Graphic_Fonts_661.asp

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Reng, Winfried Dr. wrote:

Hi Shmuel,

Thanks for the info. When I did a quick search on the web
for font and right to left I couldn't find info on such
fonts. Do you remember which font that was?

Best regards

Winfried

  

-Original Message-
From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:17 AM
To: Reng, Winfried Dr.; Framers
Subject: Re: FrameMaker in Hebrew


If it doesn't support right to left, I saw a set of fonts advertised 
that claim that they add right to left functionality. Perhaps 
that will 
work for Frame.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson




Reng, Winfried Dr. wrote:


Hi Dov,

I don't know whether it is allowed to tell that.
FrameMaker 8 was said to support Unicode. Will it
also support right-to-left languages?

Best regards

Winfried

  
  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
]On Behalf
Of Dov Isaacs
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:15 AM
To: Marc Creaghan; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker in Hebrew


(1) The current version of FrameMaker is not
a Unicode application and cannot readily map the
Hebrew Unicode character set to FrameMaker's own
internal character set.

(2) Even if you were to map the character set,
FrameMaker does not have the ability to deal with
right-to-left languages including Hebrew, Arabic,
and Farsi.

FrameMaker does not work in Hebrew!

- Dov

 




-Original Message-
From: Marc Creaghan
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:30 AM

   Hi Everybody,

   I have one more quick question:

   Does FrameMaker work well in Hebrew?

   Thanks in advance for your help.

   Marc
  


  

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Re: Table formatting

[Art Campbell]

Not exactly what you're looking for, but Rick Quatro ran up a
FrameScript for me that does something similar, so that's one route.
Run the script once for all Tables of that type and you're done.

Art

On 7/9/07, Eli Har-Even [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'd like to create a table format for a note, with one row and two columns.
I want a line above and below the second column. I've only managed to do
this using custom ruling and shading, which I don't want to use because
custom ruling can't be stored as part of the table format.



Any ideas?



[FrameMaker version 6.0p405]



Eli.




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Re: Table formatting

[Mike Wickham]

I'd like to create a table format for a note, with one row and two 
columns.

I want a line above and below the second column. I've only managed to do
this using custom ruling and shading, which I don't want to use because
custom ruling can't be stored as part of the table format.


Consider buying the Auto-Text plugin from www.SiliconPrairieSoftware.com. 
It's very cheap and highly useful. It will let you create an empty table in 
the format you want, and import a copy with a couple of keystrokes, whenever 
needed. It's great for inserting regularly-used text and graphics, too. 
Auto-Text has been a huge time-saver for me.


Mike Wickham


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Re: Table formatting

[Shlomo Perets]

Eli,

You wrote:


I'd like to create a table format for a note, with one row and two columns.
I want a line above and below the second column. I've only managed to do
this using custom ruling and shading, which I don't want to use because
custom ruling can't be stored as part of the table format.

Any ideas?


Another approach is to use Frame Below and Frame Above for the paragraph 
tag(s) used in the second column, referencing a frame defined in the 
reference page with the desired rule.


Other than setting the Frame Above/Below properties for the Note paragraph 
(eg if you would like to have multiple note paragraphs), it is also 
possible to set up the table so that it has empty heading and/or footing 
rows with a custom paragraph (assuming that the note is not allowed to 
split between pages).


Upon updating the table format, the paragraphs tags being used (in the 
first heading, footing and body row) will be stored as part of the table 
format, and will be repeated in new tables you insert.



Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training  consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
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Re: Table formatting

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

I guess you are using the first cell for graphics, am I right?

I have had some luck with using a sidehead paragraph tag for this
purpose with font size and line space set to a minimum and the space
below to a minus equaling the line size. The paragraph will call a
certain graphic in the reference pages. You can also set the next
paragraph format to the note paragraph tag you want. Then you can have
the note para tag with all the settings needed: line above, line
below, NOTE as numbering, etc.

I find this way easier to use than the table. Especially when you want
different border formatting for each cell.

HTH,

Bodvar

On 7/9/07, Eli Har-Even [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'd like to create a table format for a note, with one row and two columns.
I want a line above and below the second column. I've only managed to do
this using custom ruling and shading, which I don't want to use because
custom ruling can't be stored as part of the table format.



Any ideas?



[FrameMaker version 6.0p405]



Eli.

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Conditional Text Question

[Sam Beard]

Hello All,

 

   I have a document that uses conditional text to delineate between two
different versions of the same basic product. Before I started this,
there were two separate books for each manual, even though there is a
LOT of cross-over text between them that is the same. I combined them
into a single set of master files and am marking the conditional text,
hiding what I don't want to see, and saving the resulting file for the
two separate books. Now, I have three files for each chapter of the
book: Master, Version 1, and Version 2. All well and good. However, I
also have ALL of the text in all three files, albeit Version 1's text is
hidden in Version 2, and vice-versa. Is there a way to permanently
remove the text for Version 1 from Version 2, and vice-versa, while
maintaining the master file? One of the reasons I need to do this is to
remove the borders around cells in a table that are conditionalized.
Currently, there are large colored borders around any table cells that
are marked as conditional.

 

   I'm on Windows XP with Frame 7.2b144.

 

   Thanks much in advance!

 

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Technical Writer

OI Analytical

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Training

[Alan Litchfield]

Hey Mike,

On 9/07/2007, at 1:31 AM, Mike Derryberry wrote:

> I am in the market for introductory and advance Framemaker training  
> for about 10 students.  I am looking for recommendations for  
> training providers that can come to my facility in the Dallas,  
> Texas area to deliver the training.  Any suggestions?
>

I'll do it. Need to charge for an airfare from NZ though ;0)

Alan

Saving "Find" definitions

[Shlomo Perets]

Menahem,

You wrote:

>Is there a way to define and keep several different Find parameters,
>enabling you to quickly perform recurring searches? For example, if I
>regularly need to search for a particular condition or variable, in
>addition to occasionally searching for text, is there something that
>will save me the tedium of redefining the Find parameters each time?


There are no built-in options for multiple Find parameters.

With respect to multiple text items, there is a Super Find plug-in ($50) 
from Seatech Publications: http://www.seatechpubs.com/SFHelpFiles/Help.html

I haven't used it myself, but know a couple of satisfied users.


Shlomo Perets

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FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat

FrameMaker in Hebrew

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi Dov,

I don't know whether it is allowed to tell that.
FrameMaker 8 was said to support Unicode. Will it
also support right-to-left languages?

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> ]On Behalf
> Of Dov Isaacs
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:15 AM
> To: Marc Creaghan; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: FrameMaker in Hebrew
> 
> 
> (1)   The current version of FrameMaker is not
> a Unicode application and cannot readily map the
> Hebrew Unicode character set to FrameMaker's own
> internal character set.
> 
> (2)   Even if you were to map the character set,
> FrameMaker does not have the ability to deal with
> right-to-left languages including Hebrew, Arabic,
> and Farsi.
> 
> FrameMaker does not work in Hebrew!
> 
>   - Dov
> 
>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Marc Creaghan
> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:30 AM
> > 
> >Hi Everybody,
> > 
> >I have one more quick question:
> > 
> >Does FrameMaker work well in Hebrew?
> > 
> >Thanks in advance for your help.
> > 
> >Marc

FrameMaker in Hebrew

[Shmuel Wolfson]

If it doesn't support right to left, I saw a set of fonts advertised 
that claim that they add right to left functionality. Perhaps that will 
work for Frame.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson




Reng, Winfried Dr. wrote:
> Hi Dov,
>
> I don't know whether it is allowed to tell that.
> FrameMaker 8 was said to support Unicode. Will it
> also support right-to-left languages?
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
>   
>> -Original Message-
>> From: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
>> ]On Behalf
>> Of Dov Isaacs
>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:15 AM
>> To: Marc Creaghan; framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: RE: FrameMaker in Hebrew
>>
>>
>> (1)  The current version of FrameMaker is not
>> a Unicode application and cannot readily map the
>> Hebrew Unicode character set to FrameMaker's own
>> internal character set.
>>
>> (2)  Even if you were to map the character set,
>> FrameMaker does not have the ability to deal with
>> right-to-left languages including Hebrew, Arabic,
>> and Farsi.
>>
>> FrameMaker does not work in Hebrew!
>>
>>  - Dov
>>
>>  
>>
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Marc Creaghan
>>> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:30 AM
>>>
>>>Hi Everybody,
>>>
>>>I have one more quick question:
>>>
>>>Does FrameMaker work well in Hebrew?
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance for your help.
>>>
>>>Marc
>>>   
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Table formatting

[Eli Har-Even]

I'd like to create a table format for a note, with one row and two columns.
I want a line above and below the second column. I've only managed to do
this using custom ruling and shading, which I don't want to use because
custom ruling can't be stored as part of the table format. 



Any ideas?



[FrameMaker version 6.0p405]



Eli.

FrameMaker in Hebrew

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Here the link to the fonts:
http://www.jewishsoftware.com/products/Hebrew_Graphic_Fonts_661.asp

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Reng, Winfried Dr. wrote:
> Hi Shmuel,
>
> Thanks for the info. When I did a quick search on the web
> for font and "right to left" I couldn't find info on such
> fonts. Do you remember which font that was?
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
>   
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:sbw at actcom.com]
>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:17 AM
>> To: Reng, Winfried Dr.; Framers
>> Subject: Re: FrameMaker in Hebrew
>>
>>
>> If it doesn't support right to left, I saw a set of fonts advertised 
>> that claim that they add right to left functionality. Perhaps 
>> that will 
>> work for Frame.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shmuel Wolfson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Reng, Winfried Dr. wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Dov,
>>>
>>> I don't know whether it is allowed to tell that.
>>> FrameMaker 8 was said to support Unicode. Will it
>>> also support right-to-left languages?
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Winfried
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
 ]On Behalf
 Of Dov Isaacs
 Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:15 AM
 To: Marc Creaghan; framers at lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: FrameMaker in Hebrew


 (1)The current version of FrameMaker is not
 a Unicode application and cannot readily map the
 Hebrew Unicode character set to FrameMaker's own
 internal character set.

 (2)Even if you were to map the character set,
 FrameMaker does not have the ability to deal with
 right-to-left languages including Hebrew, Arabic,
 and Farsi.

 FrameMaker does not work in Hebrew!

- Dov

  

 
 
> -Original Message-
> From: Marc Creaghan
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:30 AM
>
>Hi Everybody,
>
>I have one more quick question:
>
>Does FrameMaker work well in Hebrew?
>
>Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>Marc
>   
>
>   

Table formatting

[Art Campbell]

Not exactly what you're looking for, but Rick Quatro ran up a
FrameScript for me that does something similar, so that's one route.
Run the script once for all Tables of that type and you're done.

Art

On 7/9/07, Eli Har-Even  wrote:
> I'd like to create a table format for a note, with one row and two columns.
> I want a line above and below the second column. I've only managed to do
> this using custom ruling and shading, which I don't want to use because
> custom ruling can't be stored as part of the table format.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> [FrameMaker version 6.0p405]
>
>
>
> Eli.
>
> 

-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

Any beta testers yet of FrameMaker 8?

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Thanks very much.

I have sent him an e-mail regarding the subject.

Bodvar

On 7/8/07, FeiMin_Lorente at amis.com  wrote:
>
> Yes, I've been able to download a copy. I sent an email to this address:
> Framemaker-beta at adobe.com
>
> If that's what you did, try my contact: Aseem Dokania (aseem at adobe.com).
> He's the FrameMaker Product Manager.
>
> Fei Min
> 
>  Fei Min Lorente
>  Senior Technical Communicator
>  AMI Semiconductor Canada Company
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FrameMaker in Hebrew

[Dov Isaacs]

Nope!

- Dov 

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
>  On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:17 AM
> To: Reng, Winfried Dr.; Framers
> Subject: Re: FrameMaker in Hebrew
> 
> If it doesn't support right to left, I saw a set of fonts advertised 
> that claim that they add right to left functionality. Perhaps 
> that will 
> work for Frame.
> 
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Reng, Winfried Dr. wrote:
> > Hi Dov,
> >
> > I don't know whether it is allowed to tell that.
> > FrameMaker 8 was said to support Unicode. Will it
> > also support right-to-left languages?
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Winfried
> >
> >   
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> >> [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> >> ]On Behalf
> >> Of Dov Isaacs
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:15 AM
> >> To: Marc Creaghan; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> >> Subject: RE: FrameMaker in Hebrew
> >>
> >>
> >> (1)The current version of FrameMaker is not
> >> a Unicode application and cannot readily map the
> >> Hebrew Unicode character set to FrameMaker's own
> >> internal character set.
> >>
> >> (2)Even if you were to map the character set,
> >> FrameMaker does not have the ability to deal with
> >> right-to-left languages including Hebrew, Arabic,
> >> and Farsi.
> >>
> >> FrameMaker does not work in Hebrew!
> >>
> >>- Dov
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >> 
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Marc Creaghan
> >>> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:30 AM
> >>>
> >>>Hi Everybody,
> >>>
> >>>I have one more quick question:
> >>>
> >>>Does FrameMaker work well in Hebrew?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks in advance for your help.
> >>>
> >>>Marc
> >>>   
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Table formatting

[Mike Wickham]

> I'd like to create a table format for a note, with one row and two 
> columns.
> I want a line above and below the second column. I've only managed to do
> this using custom ruling and shading, which I don't want to use because
> custom ruling can't be stored as part of the table format.

Consider buying the Auto-Text plugin from www.SiliconPrairieSoftware.com. 
It's very cheap and highly useful. It will let you create an empty table in 
the format you want, and import a copy with a couple of keystrokes, whenever 
needed. It's great for inserting regularly-used text and graphics, too. 
Auto-Text has been a huge time-saver for me.

Mike Wickham

Table formatting

[Shlomo Perets]

Eli,

You wrote:

>I'd like to create a table format for a note, with one row and two columns.
>I want a line above and below the second column. I've only managed to do
>this using custom ruling and shading, which I don't want to use because
>custom ruling can't be stored as part of the table format.
>
>Any ideas?

Another approach is to use Frame Below and Frame Above for the paragraph 
tag(s) used in the second column, referencing a frame defined in the 
reference page with the desired rule.

Other than setting the Frame Above/Below properties for the Note paragraph 
(eg if you would like to have multiple note paragraphs), it is also 
possible to set up the table so that it has empty heading and/or footing 
rows with a custom paragraph (assuming that the note is not allowed to 
split between pages).

Upon updating the table format, the paragraphs tags being used (in the 
first heading, footing and body row) will be stored as part of the table 
format, and will be repeated in new tables you insert.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants

Table formatting

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

I guess you are using the first cell for graphics, am I right?

I have had some luck with using a sidehead paragraph tag for this
purpose with font size and line space set to a minimum and the space
below to a minus equaling the line size. The paragraph will call a
certain graphic in the reference pages. You can also set the next
paragraph format to the note paragraph tag you want. Then you can have
the note para tag with all the settings needed: line above, line
below, NOTE as "numbering", etc.

I find this way easier to use than the table. Especially when you want
different border formatting for each cell.

HTH,

Bodvar

On 7/9/07, Eli Har-Even  wrote:
> I'd like to create a table format for a note, with one row and two columns.
> I want a line above and below the second column. I've only managed to do
> this using custom ruling and shading, which I don't want to use because
> custom ruling can't be stored as part of the table format.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> [FrameMaker version 6.0p405]
>
>
>
> Eli.
>
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Training

[David Creamer]

> I am in the market for introductory and advance Framemaker training
> for about 10 students.  I am looking for recommendations for training
> providers that can come to my facility in the Dallas, Texas area to
> deliver the training.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Mike Derryberry

I suggest looking at the Adobe site for regional trainers, however your
choice in training companies should not be dictated by proximity alone.


Of course, we do on-site training around the country.
(We are based in San Diego, CA.)
If interested, please contact me for additional information.

David Creamer
I.D.E.A.S.
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Results-Oriented Training & Consulting for Print & Web since 1990
Over 27 years Publishing, 13 years Web, and 9 years Video experience
Contributing Editor for Layers Magazine
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Table formatting

[Daniel Emory]

> Eli,
> You wrote:
> >I'd like to create a table format for a note, with
> one row and two columns.
> >I want a line above and below the second column.
> I've only managed to do
> >this using custom ruling and shading, which I don't
> want to use because
> >custom ruling can't be stored as part of the table
> format.
> >
> >Any ideas?
===
On a reference page, create a text frame and insert an
empty anchor paragraph at the top. Then, create the
customized table below the anchor paragraph. If the
first column contains the word "Note" (or a note
icon), put that in the first column. Once all that is
done, you simply copy the table (including the anchor
paragraph), and paste it anywhere it's needed within
the document.

Conditional Text Question

[Sam Beard]

Hello All,



   I have a document that uses conditional text to delineate between two
different versions of the same basic product. Before I started this,
there were two separate books for each manual, even though there is a
LOT of cross-over text between them that is the same. I combined them
into a single set of master files and am marking the conditional text,
hiding what I don't want to see, and saving the resulting file for the
two separate books. Now, I have three files for each chapter of the
book: Master, Version 1, and Version 2. All well and good. However, I
also have ALL of the text in all three files, albeit Version 1's text is
hidden in Version 2, and vice-versa. Is there a way to permanently
remove the text for Version 1 from Version 2, and vice-versa, while
maintaining the master file? One of the reasons I need to do this is to
remove the borders around cells in a table that are conditionalized.
Currently, there are large colored borders around any table cells that
are marked as conditional.



   I'm on Windows XP with Frame 7.2b144.



   Thanks much in advance!



Samuel I. Beard, Jr.

Technical Writer

OI Analytical

979 690-1711 Ext. 222

sbeard at oico.com

Paragraph numbering issue

[William Abernathy]

All: I'm having a difficult time finessing this one, and I think I need someone 
to help me come at it from a different angle. I have chapterwise paragraph 
numbers that I want to reset on every chapter break, and I have a set of 
requirement numbers that I want to sustain across chapter boundaries. Hence:

...
Section 5.10.6
blah blah
Requirement 47: Thou shalt Foo

Chapter 6

Section 6-1
blah-blah
Requirement 48: Thou shalt Bar

The problem is that I still end up with:

Section 6-1
blah-blah
Requirement 1: Thou shalt Bar

The current Heading p-tags are: C:<$chapnum>..< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>\t 
(for Heading1, outputting "N.1   [Section Title]" and resetting all subheadings 
in the C: series). At the chapter break, the Chapter title P-tag resets the 
entire series with C:<$chapnum>.< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>.

The current Requirement p-tag is: R:Requirement 

I have set the paragraph numbering properties to continue paragraph numbering 
from chapter to chapter, under the theory that the C: series will be reset by 
the chapter title regardless. Nonetheless, the R: series doggedly resets at the 
chapter breaks. As things stand, I'm having to cook up a fudge p-tag setting at 
the chapter breaks, which is obviously unacceptable.

What am I doing wrong?

--William

Training

[Holwell, Pat]

I took RoboHelp training at Digitrain in Addison. It's a certified Adobe
training center & wasn't extremely impressed, but thought they did
pretty well. I trained at their site, but they also conduct training at
your location. 

I took my FrameMaker training from a certified Adobe trainer and thought
she did an excellent job, but I don't have her name & number handy. If
you'd like for me to locate the info, please contact me off-list & I'll
see what I can do.

Thanks!

Pat

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+pat.holwell=idearc@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+pat.holwell=idearc.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of David Creamer
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:59 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Training

> I am in the market for introductory and advance Framemaker training
> for about 10 students.  I am looking for recommendations for training
> providers that can come to my facility in the Dallas, Texas area to
> deliver the training.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Mike Derryberry

I suggest looking at the Adobe site for regional trainers, however your
choice in training companies should not be dictated by proximity alone.


Of course, we do on-site training around the country.
(We are based in San Diego, CA.)
If interested, please contact me for additional information.

David Creamer
I.D.E.A.S.
http://www.IDEAStraining.com
Results-Oriented Training & Consulting for Print & Web since 1990
Over 27 years Publishing, 13 years Web, and 9 years Video experience
Contributing Editor for Layers Magazine
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[InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, GoLive]
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(FrameMaker certified since 1992)
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Paragraph numbering issue

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:07:09 -0700, William Abernathy  
wrote:

>I have set the paragraph numbering properties to continue paragraph numbering 
>from chapter to chapter, under the theory that the C: series will be reset by 
>the chapter title regardless. 

Haven't tested it, but that sounds right.

>Nonetheless, the R: series doggedly resets at the chapter breaks.

*Where* did you set the numbering properties?  The settings made
from the book file override those made from the chapter file.
Sounds like the book could be resetting the paragraph numbering.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Conditional Text Question

[Miriam Lezak]

Sam:

If you conditionalize the whole row, that row should disappear when you turn 
the condition off. The colored borders indicate that you've correctly 
conditionalized it (rather than just conditionalizing the text within the 
border).

If that doesn't make sense, let me know.

Miriam


- Original Message - 
From: "Sam Beard" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:39 PM
Subject: Conditional Text Question


Hello All,



   I have a document that uses conditional text to delineate between two
different versions of the same basic product. Before I started this,
there were two separate books for each manual, even though there is a
LOT of cross-over text between them that is the same. I combined them
into a single set of master files and am marking the conditional text,
hiding what I don't want to see, and saving the resulting file for the
two separate books. Now, I have three files for each chapter of the
book: Master, Version 1, and Version 2. All well and good. However, I
also have ALL of the text in all three files, albeit Version 1's text is
hidden in Version 2, and vice-versa. Is there a way to permanently
remove the text for Version 1 from Version 2, and vice-versa, while
maintaining the master file? One of the reasons I need to do this is to
remove the borders around cells in a table that are conditionalized.
Currently, there are large colored borders around any table cells that
are marked as conditional.



   I'm on Windows XP with Frame 7.2b144.



   Thanks much in advance!



Samuel I. Beard, Jr.

Technical Writer

OI Analytical

979 690-1711 Ext. 222

sbeard at oico.com





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