Problems with PDF

[Tina Ricks]

I'm using Frame 8.

 

I have a book (28 chapters) with a TOC. I'm creating a PDF using the File 
Save As PDF command.

 

I can make a PDF of the TOC on its own. Works fine.

I can make a PDF of any file in the book.

If I take the TOC out of the book, I can make a PDF of the whole book.

If I put the TOC in the book, I get this message in the log file where the
TOC starts:

 

%%[  Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: Rect   ]%%

 

(Then a whole lot of other undecipherable stuff in the log file that I can
include if anyone thinks it's relevant).

 

Any ideas? 

 

Tina Ricks

 

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structured Frame

[Miriam Boral]

Hello Everyone,

I'm the sole tech writer for a very small company, but we have a 
large suite of documentation. I'm beginning to teach myself 
structured Frame both because I feel it's the way of the future (and 
therefore worth learning) and also to explore how it might (or might 
not) be beneficial to the company I work for. I'm interested in 
hearing from others about their experience working with it and how 
they feel it benefits their work.


Thanks very much.
Miriam Boral

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Re: Importing PPT slideshows

[Madeleine Reardon Dimond]

The best option seems to be to make a pdf from
PowerPoint and import by reference. (Because I haven't
had any trouble making landscape pdfs, I don't expect
to have to crop.)

If things change, I'll make a new pdf, which I assume
will update automatically. So it's not as easy as I'd
like, but what are you going to do with Microsoft?

My experience with converting Word docs is the
graphics (if they come in) come in as embedded, not by
reference. 

Madeleine
--- Linda wrote:

 I'm wondering if anyone offered any options offlist.
 I'm talking to a
 prospect about converting some Word docs that have
 lots of PPT slides
 embedded in them to Frame. There are multiple books,
 totaling to over 1400
 pages, with I don't even know how many slides in
 each doc, but there are
 lots.
 
 They are also constantly updating the content in
 both the slides and the
 books that I'd convert, so I'm also wondering about
 a good way to do this.
 Creating the PDFs and cropping them each time
 there's an update seems a bit
 onerous.
 
 I've also done some OLE with PPT and Frame, but it
 made the file load very
 slowly and it was difficult to work in. 
 
 
 ~
 Linda G. Gallagher
 TechCom Plus, LLC
 lindag at techcomplus dot com
 www.techcomplus.com
 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
 WebWorks ePublisher templates
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From:

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
 Behalf Of Steve Cavanaugh
 Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:38 AM
 To: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; Madeleine Reardon Dimond
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Importing PPT slideshows
 
 Unless the PP slides contain active elements, I
 would think printing the
 PP slides to PDF and importing those by reference
 would be considerably
 better.  Perhaps there is a reason not to do this,
 but it sure works
 great here.
 
 
 Steve Cavanaugh
 
 -Original Message-
 From:

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:33 AM
 To: Madeleine Reardon Dimond
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Importing PPT slideshows
 
 PP does not seem to behave well when it comes to
 printing. My solution
 would be to print to file full width (Letter/A4 -
 sadly printing will
 not (Office 2003) print landscape) and then crop top
 and bottom all
 pages. After that FM should be able to import by
 ref.
 
 Any other ideas would be interesting to hear.
 
 Bodvar
 
 On 9/4/07, Madeleine Reardon Dimond
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I work for a courseware department that makes
 PowerPoint slideshows 
  and then imports the slides to Framemaker as OLE
 links to make their 
  printed books.
  This process makes huge, unstable files that take
 forever to update.
 
  When I asked why they didn't use Frame's Import by
 Reference feature, 
  I was told that FrameMaker will import only the
 first slide of a show.
 
  So although the Chapter 3 PowerPoint slideshow may
 have 20 slides, 
  only Slide 1 will import by reference.
 
  Being used to importing pdfs one page at a time, I
 can't help thinking
 
  there must be a way to do the same thing with
 PowerPoint shows. Does 
  anybody know what it might be?
 
  Thanks,
  Madeleine Reardon Dimond



  

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re: Problems with PDF

[Shlomo Perets]

Tina,

You wrote:

 I'm using Frame 8.
 I have a book (28 chapters) with a TOC. I'm creating a PDF
 using the File  Save As PDF command.
 ... If I put the TOC in the book, I get this message in
 the log file where the TOC starts:
 %%[  Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: Rect   ]%% ...

One workaround for this FM8.0-specific bug is to turn Tagged PDF on; see
http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM80 for more details.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training  consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
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RE: Keyboard shortcuts stop working

[Sam Beard]

Diane,

   Thanks for responding on this issue. I've written in about the same
problem, along with a problem with the arrow keys not working when held
down continuously. The arrow keys work when pressed repeatedly, but not
if held down continuously. A couple of others have responded with
comments about certain programs installed or third-party extensions to
Frame installed, but none of those apply as I don't have the listed
applications installed, nor do I have any third-party Frame extensions
installed. 
   I'm looking in the Regional and Language Options control panel and
checking all of the things there I can deduce from your post, but none
of those seem to apply to my situation, either. I recently changed my
display settings that control the appearance of the windows (I don't
recall if I had it changed to my personal preferences when I've had this
issue before or not, so thought I'd try it. I have to switch to a
different one at times for screen captures.), so we'll see if this has
any effect on it. 
   Last week, I had an interesting development with it. I was working on
editing a document and it started happening again. Before I restarted
Frame, I wanted to finish the updates I was working on. I paged up and
found an anchored frame with an image in it, along with some lines and
text boxes for callouts. I remembered reading that you can press Control
and click on an element like a text box without switching tools, so I
did that and it worked! I moved the elements using the Alt key and arrow
keys and that worked, as well. When I clicked out of the anchored frame
and tried using the arrow keys, as well as things like Control-A,
Control-V, etc, they all worked, as well! I have NO IDEA why this
behavior happened, but, so far, it hasn't happened again.
   I'd certainly like to resolve this issue, if possible, as it is
rather a PITA to have to restart Frame when it happens!

Samuel I. Beard, Jr.
Technical Writer
OI Analytical
979 690-1711 Ext. 222
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Diane Gaskill
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:27 PM
To: Rick Quatro; Yves Barbion; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Keyboard shortcuts stop working

Hi Rick,

I have had the same thing happen, but also in other apps.  The keyboard
gets remapped to another language, usually Spanish.  I turned off the
language settings in the control panel and have not had it happen since.

The keyboard shortcut to switch languages was set to Left Alt Shift and
I apparently was hitting those keys without realizing it.  Next time it
happens, try that key combination and see if it switches back.  If not,
click Settings Control Panel  Regional and Language Settings  Details
and turn off all the languages except English.

Regards,

Diane

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:41 AM
To: Yves Barbion; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcuts stop working


I have seen something similar recently with FrameMaker 7.2p158. My
keyboard 
will suddenly become remapped. I have to quit and restart FrameMaker and
all 
is well. I am still not sure what is triggering it.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

- Original Message - 
From: Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:38 AM
Subject: Keyboard shortcuts stop working


 Hi all,

 a fellow Framer is using FrameMaker 7.2b144. Sometimes (and we don't
know
 how it's triggered) the keyboard shortcuts (CTRL+X, CTRL+Z and others)

 stop
 working. When he quits and restarts FrameMaker, everything is fine
again.

 Is this a known bug? Has anyone had the same problem before? In which
 version?

 Kind regards





 -- 
 Yves Barbion
 Documentation Architect
 Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
 
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts stop working

[Stuart Rogers]

Diane Gaskill wrote:


The keyboard shortcut to switch languages was set to Left Alt Shift
and I apparently was hitting those keys without realizing it.  Next
time it happens, try that key combination and see if it switches
back.  If not, click Settings Control Panel  Regional and Language
Settings  Details and turn off all the languages except English.



I have experienced the same thing.  I use the Alt key a lot to activate 
menu choices.  In Framemaker, that can make for inadvertent language 
changes when trying to activate the Shift menus -- to get File  Save 
All Open Files, or Graphics  Pick Up Object Properties, for example.


Photoshop is prone to the same problem, as the Shift and Alt keys are 
used in many shortcuts.  I've just come to expect it from time to time, 
and am no longer surprised when my dialog box entries suddenly appear in 
Cyrillic :-)


sr

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Toronto, ON, Canada
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Re: Importing PPT slideshows

[Stuart Rogers]

Linda G. Gallagher wrote:

I'm wondering if anyone offered any options offlist. I'm talking to a
prospect about converting some Word docs that have lots of PPT slides
embedded in them to Frame. There are multiple books, totaling to over 1400
pages, with I don't even know how many slides in each doc, but there are
lots.

They are also constantly updating the content in both the slides and the
books that I'd convert, so I'm also wondering about a good way to do this.
Creating the PDFs and cropping them each time there's an update seems a bit
onerous.

I've also done some OLE with PPT and Frame, but it made the file load very
slowly and it was difficult to work in. 



Powerpoint will export to quite a number of formats, including .jpg, 
.gif, and .png.  It creates a folder named the same as the .ppt file, 
and saves as Slide1.png, Slide2.png, etc.


You could import these files by reference into FM (without the need for 
cropping), and updates would be transparent as long as the number/order 
of slides isn't changed.  If they do muck about with inserting/deleting 
slides, you'd have a problem -- but that would be true in any 
application that imports by reference.


HTH,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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FW: Dictionary doesn't find smart quotes

[Daya, Shetil A - Arlington, VA - Contractor]

Morning all,
 
I'm using FrameMaker 7.2b128.  I converted a file from Quicksilver to
FrameMaker.  Everything is working great except for some reason my
Dictionary stopped finding the smart quotes (typewriter quotes) in the
document. I have checked the option in the dictionary and it still
doesn't work.  If anyone knows of a solution, please let me know.
 
Thanks,

S. Amit Daya


 

 
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RE: structured Frame

[Kelly McDaniel]

Me,too...thanks, Kelly.

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Subject: structured Frame

Hello Everyone,

I'm the sole tech writer for a very small company, but we have a 
large suite of documentation. I'm beginning to teach myself 
structured Frame both because I feel it's the way of the future (and 
therefore worth learning) and also to explore how it might (or might 
not) be beneficial to the company I work for. I'm interested in 
hearing from others about their experience working with it and how 
they feel it benefits their work.

Thanks very much.
Miriam Boral

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Re: Problems with PDF

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

This may be the fact for Frame 7.2/Distiller7 to.

I have on several occasions in the last year or so complained about
FrameMaker 7.2 crashing when distilling a book file (print book to
file and then distill). Recently I tried setting the Tagged PDF on,
and setting tags for only some three elements (structured), and now
the file distilled without any problems.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Iceland

On 9/10/07, Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tina,

 You wrote:

   I'm using Frame 8.
   I have a book (28 chapters) with a TOC. I'm creating a PDF
   using the File  Save As PDF command.
   ... If I put the TOC in the book, I get this message in
   the log file where the TOC starts:
   %%[  Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: Rect   ]%% ...

 One workaround for this FM8.0-specific bug is to turn Tagged PDF on; see
 http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM80 for more details.


 Shlomo Perets

 MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
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RE: Problems with PDF

[Tina Ricks]

Hi all--

Schlomo's fix worked. I turned on tagged PDF, and now I can create a PDF
that includes a generated file. Life is good, thanks!

Tina

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FM 8 Integration with Webworks

[Stephen C. Gillespie Sr]

Greetings!

 

We are all excited about the new FM 8, and I am the first on my team to get
the upgrade.

 

My problem is, when I try to open and run my old (FM 7.2) WWP 8 Standard
project, I get a communication error: The application is unable to
communicate with FrameMaker. FrameMaker was unable to generate the specified
MIF file.

 

Before installing FM 8, I Uninstalled FM 7.2.

Then when I got the error, I Uninstalled Webworks 8, and re-installed it -
made no diff.

 

Does anybody know the solution? - I looked at the FM 8 maker.ini, and there
is no API for Webworks.

 

Thank you.

 

Steve Gillespie, PMP

HR Measurements  Support, GOLDS

FedEx Express

901-434-9982

 


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Fwd: FW: Dictionary doesn't find smart quotes

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Sheila:

I'm not sure I understand your description. In the Spelling Checker 
Options, you can enable or disable straight quotes as an error when checking
spelling. However, there's no way to detect curly quotes in the Options
dialog box.

You can find and change them with Edit  Find/Change. In the Find Text box,
type the code \` (backslash prime - on the tilde key) to find left curly
quotes, and \' (backslash apostrophe) to find right curly quotes. In FM,
there's no way to replace both in one operation, so you'll need to make one
pass for each replacement. You can replace across a book.

ASIDE:

Would you mind describing how you converted Quicksilver (which release) to
FM? Thanks!

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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On 9/10/07, Daya, Shetil A - Arlington, VA - Contractor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Morning all,

 I'm using FrameMaker 7.2b128.  I converted a file from Quicksilver to
 FrameMaker.  Everything is working great except for some reason my
 Dictionary stopped finding the smart quotes (typewriter quotes) in the
 document. I have checked the option in the dictionary and it still
 doesn't work.  If anyone knows of a solution, please let me know.

 Thanks,

 S. Amit Daya





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Re: FM 8 Integration with Webworks

[Bill Swallow]

 My problem is, when I try to open and run my old (FM 7.2) WWP 8 Standard
 project, I get a communication error

FM 8 and WWP 8 (of any flavor) don't work together. You need WWeP 9.x.

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RE: structured Frame

[Fred Ridder]

Since nobody else has chimed in on this one, let me offer a few
comments.

It seems to me that the big advantages of structured authoring
fall into a few general areas:
-enhanced ability to publish content in different forms
  (definition A of single sourcing)
-enhanced ability to reuse content in different contexts
  (definition B of single sourcing)
-reduced translation costs from direct reuse of existing
  translated content modules
-more consistent organization of information across different
  documents
-more consistent organization of content written by different
  writers
-more consistent presentation of similar information types
-content is (theoretically) portable across a range of different
  structured authoring/editing/publishing tools (i.e. you're
  not locked into a proprietary file format)

For a lone writer, unless you have a significant requirement for
single sourcing (under either or both definitions of the term),
or have your documents translated into a lot of languages,
the return on investment for migrating to a structured
documentation environment is likely to be rather small.

The big payoffs from a financial standpoint (the key ingredient
of the business case for converting) stem from the reuse of
content. This is a direct, demonstrable, quanitifiable benefit.


From an internal organizational standpoint, the big benefits are

the ability to avoid editing the same information multiple times
in multiple source files for multiple deliverables, and the enahnced
ability to use content from multiple writers. Both of these can
yield improvements in productivity, but the improvements are
much larger in departments with multiple writers. This is a
direct benefit that can be hard to quantify, and which will not
be apparent immeidately because productivity often falls off
for months while writers become comfortable with the new
tools and new way they have to approach their work.

The big payoff from the customer's standpoint is the improved
consistency and predictability that comes from adherence to
a defined document structure. There may also be a long-term
benefit in faster development/update cycles for documentation.
In the long run, the customer benefits may be the biggest
payoff, but because they are an indirect benefit they are very
hard to quantify.

Because it can take so long before the advantages of
implementing structured authoring are obvious, it's
important to get a commitment from management that has
a long enough term to get you over the hump. There have
been many cases where the setup/conversion costs and
initial reduction in productivity has caused management to
pull the plug before the tipping point is reached. One
useful strategy to avoid this is to do a small, *non-critical*
project as a pilot so that you can demonstrate feasability
before asking for a longer-term commitment to a full rollout.

Fred Ridder


From: Miriam Boral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: structured Frame
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 05:09:19 -0500

Hello Everyone,

I'm the sole tech writer for a very small company, but we have a large 
suite of documentation. I'm beginning to teach myself structured Frame both 
because I feel it's the way of the future (and therefore worth learning) 
and also to explore how it might (or might not) be beneficial to the 
company I work for. I'm interested in hearing from others about their 
experience working with it and how they feel it benefits their work.


Thanks very much.
Miriam Boral



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RE: problem install framemaker 8 trial version

[menchin_elaine]

After three calls to tech support, the issue is resolved.  The trial
version of Adobe FrameMaker 8 is not supported on Windows 2000. This is
noted in small print in the system requirements - my bad!  Although I
was misled by the first two tech support representatives I spoke with -
you certainly can run Frame 8 trial on the same system with Frame 7.

 

 

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 I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version
of 
 Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website. It downloads fine but
during the 
 install process I am asked for a serial number. I don't have
one since 
 this is a trial version. The Adobe support person I contacted
first 
 suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing
happened), 
 then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first
removing 
 Frame 7 from my system. This isn't an option; we do our
documentation 
 work in Frame 7 here. I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's
conditional 
 text features to see if we want to upgrade. Does this ring
true - do I 
 really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8? 
 
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RE: Importing PPT slideshows

[Linda G. Gallagher]

Stuart,

Thanks for that. It seems like the best option, as PPT saves out every slide
fairly quickly and automatically overwrites the existing files.  


~
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-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:55 AM
To: Linda G. Gallagher
Cc: 'Steve Cavanaugh'; 'Bodvar Bjorgvinsson'; 'Madeleine Reardon Dimond';
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Importing PPT slideshows

Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
 I'm wondering if anyone offered any options offlist. I'm talking to a
 prospect about converting some Word docs that have lots of PPT slides
 embedded in them to Frame. There are multiple books, totaling to over 1400
 pages, with I don't even know how many slides in each doc, but there are
 lots.
 
 They are also constantly updating the content in both the slides and the
 books that I'd convert, so I'm also wondering about a good way to do this.
 Creating the PDFs and cropping them each time there's an update seems a
bit
 onerous.
 
 I've also done some OLE with PPT and Frame, but it made the file load very
 slowly and it was difficult to work in. 


Powerpoint will export to quite a number of formats, including .jpg, 
gif, and .png.  It creates a folder named the same as the .ppt file, 
and saves as Slide1.png, Slide2.png, etc.

You could import these files by reference into FM (without the need for 
cropping), and updates would be transparent as long as the number/order 
of slides isn't changed.  If they do muck about with inserting/deleting 
slides, you'd have a problem -- but that would be true in any 
application that imports by reference.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Problems with PDF

[Shlomo Perets]

Tina,

You wrote:

 > I'm using Frame 8.
 > I have a book (28 chapters) with a TOC. I'm creating a PDF
 > using the File > Save As PDF command.
 > ... If I put the TOC in the book, I get this message in
 > the log file where the TOC starts:
 > %%[  Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: Rect   ]%% ...

One workaround for this FM8.0-specific bug is to turn Tagged PDF on; see
http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM80 for more details.


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Keyboard shortcuts stop working

[Sam Beard]

Diane,

   Thanks for responding on this issue. I've written in about the same
problem, along with a problem with the arrow keys not working when held
down continuously. The arrow keys work when pressed repeatedly, but not
if held down continuously. A couple of others have responded with
comments about certain programs installed or third-party extensions to
Frame installed, but none of those apply as I don't have the listed
applications installed, nor do I have any third-party Frame extensions
installed. 
   I'm looking in the Regional and Language Options control panel and
checking all of the things there I can deduce from your post, but none
of those seem to apply to my situation, either. I recently changed my
display settings that control the appearance of the windows (I don't
recall if I had it changed to my personal preferences when I've had this
issue before or not, so thought I'd try it. I have to switch to a
different one at times for screen captures.), so we'll see if this has
any effect on it. 
   Last week, I had an interesting development with it. I was working on
editing a document and it started happening again. Before I restarted
Frame, I wanted to finish the updates I was working on. I paged up and
found an anchored frame with an image in it, along with some lines and
text boxes for callouts. I remembered reading that you can press Control
and click on an element like a text box without switching tools, so I
did that and it worked! I moved the elements using the Alt key and arrow
keys and that worked, as well. When I clicked out of the anchored frame
and tried using the arrow keys, as well as things like Control-A,
Control-V, etc, they all worked, as well! I have NO IDEA why this
behavior happened, but, so far, it hasn't happened again.
   I'd certainly like to resolve this issue, if possible, as it is
rather a PITA to have to restart Frame when it happens!

Samuel I. Beard, Jr.
Technical Writer
OI Analytical
979 690-1711 Ext. 222
sbeard at oico.com


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+sbeard=oico@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+sbeard=oico.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Diane Gaskill
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:27 PM
To: Rick Quatro; Yves Barbion; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Keyboard shortcuts stop working

Hi Rick,

I have had the same thing happen, but also in other apps.  The keyboard
gets remapped to another language, usually Spanish.  I turned off the
language settings in the control panel and have not had it happen since.

The keyboard shortcut to switch languages was set to Left Alt Shift and
I apparently was hitting those keys without realizing it.  Next time it
happens, try that key combination and see if it switches back.  If not,
click Settings >Control Panel > Regional and Language Settings > Details
and turn off all the languages except English.

Regards,

Diane

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On
Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:41 AM
To: Yves Barbion; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcuts stop working


I have seen something similar recently with FrameMaker 7.2p158. My
keyboard 
will suddenly become remapped. I have to quit and restart FrameMaker and
all 
is well. I am still not sure what is triggering it.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Yves Barbion" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:38 AM
Subject: Keyboard shortcuts stop working


> Hi all,
>
> a fellow Framer is using FrameMaker 7.2b144. Sometimes (and we don't
know
> how it's triggered) the keyboard shortcuts (CTRL+X, CTRL+Z and others)

> stop
> working. When he quits and restarts FrameMaker, everything is fine
again.
>
> Is this a known bug? Has anyone had the same problem before? In which
> version?
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Yves Barbion
> Documentation Architect
> Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
> 
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Keyboard shortcuts stop working

[Stuart Rogers]

Diane Gaskill wrote:
> 
> The keyboard shortcut to switch languages was set to Left Alt Shift
> and I apparently was hitting those keys without realizing it.  Next
> time it happens, try that key combination and see if it switches
> back.  If not, click Settings >Control Panel > Regional and Language
> Settings > Details and turn off all the languages except English.
> 

I have experienced the same thing.  I use the Alt key a lot to activate 
menu choices.  In Framemaker, that can make for inadvertent language 
changes when trying to activate the Shift menus -- to get File > Save 
All Open Files, or Graphics > Pick Up Object Properties, for example.

Photoshop is prone to the same problem, as the Shift and Alt keys are 
used in many shortcuts.  I've just come to expect it from time to time, 
and am no longer surprised when my dialog box entries suddenly appear in 
Cyrillic :-)

sr

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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up, he'll never be able to merge his car onto the freeway."

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Importing PPT slideshows

[Stuart Rogers]

Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
> I'm wondering if anyone offered any options offlist. I'm talking to a
> prospect about converting some Word docs that have lots of PPT slides
> embedded in them to Frame. There are multiple books, totaling to over 1400
> pages, with I don't even know how many slides in each doc, but there are
> lots.
> 
> They are also constantly updating the content in both the slides and the
> books that I'd convert, so I'm also wondering about a good way to do this.
> Creating the PDFs and cropping them each time there's an update seems a bit
> onerous.
> 
> I've also done some OLE with PPT and Frame, but it made the file load very
> slowly and it was difficult to work in. 


Powerpoint will export to quite a number of formats, including .jpg, 
.gif, and .png.  It creates a folder named the same as the .ppt file, 
and saves as Slide1.png, Slide2.png, etc.

You could import these files by reference into FM (without the need for 
cropping), and updates would be transparent as long as the number/order 
of slides isn't changed.  If they do muck about with inserting/deleting 
slides, you'd have a problem -- but that would be true in any 
application that imports by reference.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home, and when he grows 
up, he'll never be able to merge his car onto the freeway."

- anon.

ANN: Saturday Sept. 22nd - Training workshops at Front Runner Training

[Veronica Kütt]

Hello to all,


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workshops at Front Runner, in Toronto, Canada. The first is an Introduction
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FW: Dictionary doesn't find smart quotes

[Daya, Shetil A - Arlington, VA - Contractor]

Morning all,

I'm using FrameMaker 7.2b128.  I converted a file from Quicksilver to
FrameMaker.  Everything is working great except for some reason my
Dictionary stopped finding the smart quotes (typewriter quotes) in the
document. I have checked the option in the dictionary and it still
doesn't work.  If anyone knows of a solution, please let me know.

Thanks,

S. Amit Daya

structured Frame

[Kelly McDaniel]

Me,too...thanks, Kelly.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+kmcdaniel=pavtech@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+kmcdaniel=pavtech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Boral
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 5:09 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: structured Frame

Hello Everyone,

I'm the sole tech writer for a very small company, but we have a 
large suite of documentation. I'm beginning to teach myself 
structured Frame both because I feel it's the way of the future (and 
therefore worth learning) and also to explore how it might (or might 
not) be beneficial to the company I work for. I'm interested in 
hearing from others about their experience working with it and how 
they feel it benefits their work.

Thanks very much.
Miriam Boral

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Problems with PDF

[Tina Ricks]

Hi all--

Schlomo's fix worked. I turned on tagged PDF, and now I can create a PDF
that includes a generated file. Life is good, thanks!

Tina

tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233
technical writing and editing

Problems with PDF

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

This may be the fact for Frame 7.2/Distiller7 to.

I have on several occasions in the last year or so complained about
FrameMaker 7.2 crashing when distilling a book file (print book to
file and then distill). Recently I tried setting the Tagged PDF on,
and setting tags for only some three elements (structured), and now
the file distilled without any problems.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Iceland

On 9/10/07, Shlomo Perets  wrote:
> Tina,
>
> You wrote:
>
>  > I'm using Frame 8.
>  > I have a book (28 chapters) with a TOC. I'm creating a PDF
>  > using the File > Save As PDF command.
>  > ... If I put the TOC in the book, I get this message in
>  > the log file where the TOC starts:
>  > %%[  Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: Rect   ]%% ...
>
> One workaround for this FM8.0-specific bug is to turn Tagged PDF on; see
> http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM80 for more details.
>
>
> Shlomo Perets
>
> MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
> FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat
> TimeSavers/Assistants
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Fwd: FW: Dictionary doesn't find smart quotes

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Sheila:

I'm not sure I understand your description. In the Spelling Checker >
Options, you can enable or disable straight quotes as an error when checking
spelling. However, there's no way to detect curly quotes in the Options
dialog box.

You can find and change them with Edit > Find/Change. In the Find Text box,
type the code \` (backslash prime - on the tilde key) to find left curly
quotes, and \' (backslash apostrophe) to find right curly quotes. In FM,
there's no way to replace both in one operation, so you'll need to make one
pass for each replacement. You can replace across a book.

ASIDE:

Would you mind describing how you converted Quicksilver (which release) to
FM? Thanks!

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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On 9/10/07, Daya, Shetil A - Arlington, VA - Contractor <
Shetil.A.Daya at usps.gov> wrote:
>
> Morning all,
>
> I'm using FrameMaker 7.2b128.  I converted a file from Quicksilver to
> FrameMaker.  Everything is working great except for some reason my
> Dictionary stopped finding the smart quotes (typewriter quotes) in the
> document. I have checked the option in the dictionary and it still
> doesn't work.  If anyone knows of a solution, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> S. Amit Daya
>
>
>
>
>

FM 8 Integration with Webworks

[Stephen C. Gillespie Sr]

Greetings!



We are all excited about the new FM 8, and I am the first on my team to get
the upgrade.



My problem is, when I try to open and run my old (FM 7.2) WWP 8 Standard
project, I get a communication error: "The application is unable to
communicate with FrameMaker. FrameMaker was unable to generate the specified
MIF file."



Before installing FM 8, I Uninstalled FM 7.2.

Then when I got the error, I Uninstalled Webworks 8, and re-installed it -
made no diff.



Does anybody know the solution? - I looked at the FM 8 maker.ini, and there
is no API for Webworks.



Thank you.



Steve Gillespie, PMP

HR Measurements & Support, GOLDS

FedEx Express

901-434-9982

FM 8 Integration with Webworks

[John Sgammato]

When we upgraded to FM8, we abandoned ePublisher in favor of Mif2Go and
OmniHelp. My intern is having a blast with Mif2Go; he finds it much
easier to work with than ePublisher was with FM7.2. 
john

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[mailto:framers-bounces+jsgammato=imprivata.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stephen C. Gillespie Sr
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:47 PM
To: Framers
Cc: 'Aodhan F. C. Richardson'
Subject: FM 8 Integration with Webworks

Greetings!



We are all excited about the new FM 8, and I am the first on my team to
get the upgrade.



My problem is, when I try to open and run my old (FM 7.2) WWP 8 Standard
project, I get a communication error: "The application is unable to
communicate with FrameMaker. FrameMaker was unable to generate the
specified MIF file."



Before installing FM 8, I Uninstalled FM 7.2.

Then when I got the error, I Uninstalled Webworks 8, and re-installed it
- made no diff.



Does anybody know the solution? - I looked at the FM 8 maker.ini, and
there is no API for Webworks.



Thank you.



Steve Gillespie, PMP

HR Measurements & Support, GOLDS

FedEx Express

901-434-9982




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FM 8 Integration with Webworks

[Bill Swallow]

> My problem is, when I try to open and run my old (FM 7.2) WWP 8 Standard
> project, I get a communication error

FM 8 and WWP 8 (of any flavor) don't work together. You need WWeP 9.x.

-- 
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WWP-Users List Owner
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http://techcommdood.blogspot.com
avid homebrewer and proud beer snob
"I see your OOO message and raise you a clue."

structured Frame

[Fred Ridder]

Since nobody else has chimed in on this one, let me offer a few
comments.

It seems to me that the big advantages of structured authoring
fall into a few general areas:
-enhanced ability to publish content in different forms
   (definition A of "single sourcing")
-enhanced ability to reuse content in different contexts
   (definition B of "single sourcing")
-reduced translation costs from direct reuse of existing
   translated content modules
-more consistent organization of information across different
   documents
-more consistent organization of content written by different
   writers
-more consistent presentation of similar information types
-content is (theoretically) portable across a range of different
   structured authoring/editing/publishing tools (i.e. you're
   not locked into a proprietary file format)

For a lone writer, unless you have a significant requirement for
single sourcing (under either or both definitions of the term),
or have your documents translated into a lot of languages,
the return on investment for migrating to a structured
documentation environment is likely to be rather small.

The big payoffs from a financial standpoint (the key ingredient
of the business case for converting) stem from the reuse of
content. This is a direct, demonstrable, quanitifiable benefit.

FM 8 Integration with Webworks

[Gutierrez, Dorianne]

That's great to hear, John - that's my plan exactly.
Dorianne

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om
[mailto:framers-bounces+dorianne.gutierrez=polarislibrary.com at lists.fram
eusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:54 PM
To: Stephen C. Gillespie Sr; Framers
Cc: Aodhan F. C. Richardson
Subject: RE: FM 8 Integration with Webworks

When we upgraded to FM8, we abandoned ePublisher in favor of Mif2Go and
OmniHelp. My intern is having a blast with Mif2Go; he finds it much
easier to work with than ePublisher was with FM7.2. 
john

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Behalf Of Stephen C. Gillespie Sr
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:47 PM
To: Framers
Cc: 'Aodhan F. C. Richardson'
Subject: FM 8 Integration with Webworks

Greetings!



We are all excited about the new FM 8, and I am the first on my team to
get the upgrade.



My problem is, when I try to open and run my old (FM 7.2) WWP 8 Standard
project, I get a communication error: "The application is unable to
communicate with FrameMaker. FrameMaker was unable to generate the
specified MIF file."



Before installing FM 8, I Uninstalled FM 7.2.

Then when I got the error, I Uninstalled Webworks 8, and re-installed it
- made no diff.



Does anybody know the solution? - I looked at the FM 8 maker.ini, and
there is no API for Webworks.



Thank you.



Steve Gillespie, PMP

HR Measurements & Support, GOLDS

FedEx Express

901-434-9982




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problem install framemaker 8 trial version

[menchin_ela...@emc.com]

After three calls to tech support, the issue is resolved.  The trial
version of Adobe FrameMaker 8 is not supported on Windows 2000. This is
noted in small print in the system requirements - my bad!  Although I
was misled by the first two tech support representatives I spoke with -
you certainly can run Frame 8 trial on the same system with Frame 7.





-- Original message -- 
From: menchin_elaine at emc.com 

> I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version
of 
> Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website. It downloads fine but
during the 
> install process I am asked for a serial number. I don't have
one since 
> this is a trial version. The Adobe support person I contacted
first 
> suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing
happened), 
> then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first
removing 
> Frame 7 from my system. This isn't an option; we do our
documentation 
> work in Frame 7 here. I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's
conditional 
> text features to see if we want to upgrade. Does this ring
true - do I 
> really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8? 
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Importing PPT slideshows

[Linda G. Gallagher]

Stuart,

Thanks for that. It seems like the best option, as PPT saves out every slide
fairly quickly and automatically overwrites the existing files.  


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User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
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-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:55 AM
To: Linda G. Gallagher
Cc: 'Steve Cavanaugh'; 'Bodvar Bjorgvinsson'; 'Madeleine Reardon Dimond';
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Importing PPT slideshows

Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
> I'm wondering if anyone offered any options offlist. I'm talking to a
> prospect about converting some Word docs that have lots of PPT slides
> embedded in them to Frame. There are multiple books, totaling to over 1400
> pages, with I don't even know how many slides in each doc, but there are
> lots.
> 
> They are also constantly updating the content in both the slides and the
> books that I'd convert, so I'm also wondering about a good way to do this.
> Creating the PDFs and cropping them each time there's an update seems a
bit
> onerous.
> 
> I've also done some OLE with PPT and Frame, but it made the file load very
> slowly and it was difficult to work in. 


Powerpoint will export to quite a number of formats, including .jpg, 
gif, and .png.  It creates a folder named the same as the .ppt file, 
and saves as Slide1.png, Slide2.png, etc.

You could import these files by reference into FM (without the need for 
cropping), and updates would be transparent as long as the number/order 
of slides isn't changed.  If they do muck about with inserting/deleting 
slides, you'd have a problem -- but that would be true in any 
application that imports by reference.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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