looking for conditional text scenarios
Shmuel, You wrote: >... Two things I don't like: >1. When I conditionalize a table marker, it's very hard to see the >conditional indicator. >2. When I conditionalize a table row, I can search for the row by search >for that conditional text type. To me, that is a big drawback, and I >often end up conditionalizing the text in the row instead of the table >row, which is more time consuming. In #2, you most likely meant to say: "I can NOT search..." Applying the condition to the text in the table row, in addition to marking the row as conditional, is a workaround for another problem: hypertext markers and cross-references in hidden conditional table rows are carried over to PDF as active links. [applies to FM5.x, 6.x, 7.x and... 8.0] [ I reported this a few times over the years, and reported it yet again to Dave Valiulis last week ] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-Acrobat Advanced Techniques seminars
looking for conditional text scenarios
In my company there are four manuals that have several chapters that are almost identical. I created four separate book files (one for each manual), with some of the chapters unique to each book, and some chapters shared between the four books. In the shared chapters, I use conditional text for each manual to mark the differences between the manuals. One thing I like is that I can condition an entire table as manual A and manual B (by conditionalizing the table marker), then mark one row as manual A and a different row as manual B, and the table appears in both manuals, with the appropriate rows displayed. Two things I don't like: 1. When I conditionalize a table marker, it's very hard to see the conditional indicator. 2. When I conditionalize a table row, I can search for the row by search for that conditional text type. To me, that is a big drawback, and I often end up conditionalizing the text in the row instead of the table row, which is more time consuming. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson 052-763-7133 David Valiulis wrote: > Greetings, > > Here at Adobe we're looking for real-world uses of conditional text. > We'd be very interested in a summary of some of the interesting uses out > there, including the condition tags you've defined and the output > desired. We'd also like to hear of any limitations you've encountered in > either Frame 7 or Frame 8. > > For example, you might say... > "I work on a doc set that must output to print and to the web in two > different versions, Mac and Windows. We've set up 6 conditions: > WinPrint, WinWeb, WinBoth, MacPrint, MacWeb, and MacBoth." > > Many thanks. > > /dave valiulis > Adobe systems > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as sbw at actcom.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
Strange behavior...Solved
It is interesting that I received many replies that lead to the solution - do not use the Windows Classic display scheme . Most replies contained the caveat - "The XP display scheme is ugly, annoying, childish.." and some people even said that they prefer to click more and not have to endure the aesthetically offensive XP display. I would like to post my reply to this caveat to the list: Each to his/her own... Although it is worthwhile considering that extra clicks mean extra wear and tear on our hands - the muscles, tendons, and nerves. Our work places us at high risk for RSI and we should do everything to minimize this risk - even compromise our aesthetics. I wish you happy, healthy, and productive computing. Leah Smaller Technical Communicator Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner leah at compulite.com "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)
Linking to one slide in a Powerpoint presentation
I inherited a publication done in Framemaker, which is something like a glorified Powerpoint handout: a typical page has a Ppt slide at the top. There's one Ppt file to one FM file, meaning that each graphic is linked to not only the Ppt file but to a particular slide in that file. When I double-click on the graphic in FM, it opens the Ppt file on the correct slide. For adding a slide in the future, I do not see how to do this, and the original author would be difficult to reach. Can anyone explain it? Christopher C. Brewster Multimedia Design Engineer Lockheed Martin MS2 651-456-4597 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: looking for conditional text scenarios
Shmuel, You wrote: ... Two things I don't like: 1. When I conditionalize a table marker, it's very hard to see the conditional indicator. 2. When I conditionalize a table row, I can search for the row by search for that conditional text type. To me, that is a big drawback, and I often end up conditionalizing the text in the row instead of the table row, which is more time consuming. In #2, you most likely meant to say: "I can NOT search..." Applying the condition to the text in the table row, in addition to marking the row as conditional, is a workaround for another problem: hypertext markers and cross-references in hidden conditional table rows are carried over to PDF as active links. [applies to FM5.x, 6.x, 7.x and... 8.0] [ I reported this a few times over the years, and reported it yet again to Dave Valiulis last week ] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-Acrobat Advanced Techniques seminars ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: looking for conditional text scenarios
In my company there are four manuals that have several chapters that are almost identical. I created four separate book files (one for each manual), with some of the chapters unique to each book, and some chapters shared between the four books. In the shared chapters, I use conditional text for each manual to mark the differences between the manuals. One thing I like is that I can condition an entire table as manual A and manual B (by conditionalizing the table marker), then mark one row as manual A and a different row as manual B, and the table appears in both manuals, with the appropriate rows displayed. Two things I don't like: 1. When I conditionalize a table marker, it's very hard to see the conditional indicator. 2. When I conditionalize a table row, I can search for the row by search for that conditional text type. To me, that is a big drawback, and I often end up conditionalizing the text in the row instead of the table row, which is more time consuming. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson 052-763-7133 David Valiulis wrote: Greetings, Here at Adobe we're looking for real-world uses of conditional text. We'd be very interested in a summary of some of the interesting uses out there, including the condition tags you've defined and the output desired. We'd also like to hear of any limitations you've encountered in either Frame 7 or Frame 8. For example, you might say... "I work on a doc set that must output to print and to the web in two different versions, Mac and Windows. We've set up 6 conditions: WinPrint, WinWeb, WinBoth, MacPrint, MacWeb, and MacBoth." Many thanks. /dave valiulis Adobe systems ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Strange behavior...Solved
It is interesting that I received many replies that lead to the solution - do not use the Windows Classic display scheme . Most replies contained the caveat - "The XP display scheme is ugly, annoying, childish.." and some people even said that they prefer to click more and not have to endure the aesthetically offensive XP display. I would like to post my reply to this caveat to the list: Each to his/her own... Although it is worthwhile considering that extra clicks mean extra wear and tear on our hands - the muscles, tendons, and nerves. Our work places us at high risk for RSI and we should do everything to minimize this risk - even compromise our aesthetics. I wish you happy, healthy, and productive computing. Leah Smaller Technical Communicator Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner [EMAIL PROTECTED] "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
