Re: Acrobat / FrameMaker conflicts during install

2007-12-14 Thread Eric Dunn
I think the question that remains, is when will the two applications
become more aware of each other so that you needn't have to worry?

That FM doesn't ask to install distiller if an Acrobat installation is
found and that Acrobat fixes a FM distiller only install if a FM
installation is found?

On 12/13/07, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 With any recent version of both FrameMaker and Acrobat
 there is absolutely NO reason to install one or another
 first. What is true is that if you have or plan to have
 the full Acrobat package (Standard, Pro, or 3D) installed,
 as Joel advises, DO NOT install either the PDF add-on thing
 or the Distiller-only package (FrameMaker 7.2 and earlier).

- Dov
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-14 Thread Shlomo Perets
Hi Peter,

Thanks for your detailed and interesting reply!

My comment was not focused on a specific FM8 bug, but on the apparent state 
of affairs where a product is released as is so as not to miss a 
deadline, but losing out on other fronts in major ways.

Some other FM8 bugs/issues are listed at 
www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM80 (and several others were reported in 
different FrameMaker forums).

Obviously, I cannot comment on whether the specific format selection bug 
was reported during beta testing or not.

You say that FM 8.0.1 came out pretty soon after 8.0. FM8 was released 
end of July/beginning of August, and the patch was made available Nov. 22 
-- so that's three and a half months at least.
Interestingly, the same FM8.0.1 patch was implemented in the Adobe Tech 
Comm Suite, released one month earlier than the FM8 patch.

Regards,

Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting  add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat

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Re: PDF bookmark font is Arial not Arial-CE

2007-12-14 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
IIRC, Acrobat does not support foreign characters in bookmarks, at
least not in the older versions. I have not yet tested it in Acrobat
8.

Bodvar

On Dec 13, 2007 4:17 PM, Chinell, David F (GE Indust, Security)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm writing on behalf of a co-worker.

 OS: Windows XP
 FrameMaker: 7.0

 She's creating a PDF from a FrameMaker document, using Print Book and
 selecting the Acrobat printer.

 The problem is that while the body styles are defined as Arial CE, the
 bookmarks are appearing (we guess) in Arial. That is, the symptom is
 that the bookmarks are garbled as the Polish headings contain characters
 not found, or not correctly mapped.

 How does one solve this problem? Specify a font for use in the bookmarks
 somehow? Or is there a different problem that's producing this symptom?

 Bear
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RE: PDF bookmark font is Arial not Arial-CE

2007-12-14 Thread Ann Zdunczyk
I know that Maxwell Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] with ENLASO
Corporation, demonstrated a way that they fix this with a procedure that
they came up with. You might check with him about this.

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Bjorgvinsson
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:27 AM
To: Chinell, David F (GE Indust, Security)
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF bookmark font is Arial not Arial-CE

IIRC, Acrobat does not support foreign characters in bookmarks, at least
not in the older versions. I have not yet tested it in Acrobat 8.

Bodvar

On Dec 13, 2007 4:17 PM, Chinell, David F (GE Indust, Security)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm writing on behalf of a co-worker.

 OS: Windows XP
 FrameMaker: 7.0

 She's creating a PDF from a FrameMaker document, using Print Book and 
 selecting the Acrobat printer.

 The problem is that while the body styles are defined as Arial CE, the 
 bookmarks are appearing (we guess) in Arial. That is, the symptom is 
 that the bookmarks are garbled as the Polish headings contain 
 characters not found, or not correctly mapped.

 How does one solve this problem? Specify a font for use in the 
 bookmarks somehow? Or is there a different problem that's producing this
symptom?

 Bear
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FM8 Bug: Lines not breaking after em dash and en dash

2007-12-14 Thread Mike Wickham
Is anyone else seeing this? In FM8 Format Document Text Options, I have 
Allow Line Breaks After set to forward slash, hyphen, en dash, and em 
dash. I believe these are the default values. Lines break after a slash or 
hyphen, but not after either em or en dashes. It has caused reflow in 
documents originally created in FM7.1.

Mike Wickham


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Printed documentation

2007-12-14 Thread Geoffrey Marnell
Hi framers,

 

Can anyone recall whether a printed User Guide was available with FM 7?

 

If so, is anyone willing to sell me a copy?

 

Cheers

 

Geoffrey Marnell

Principal Consultant

Abelard Consulting Pty Ltd

T: (+61 3) 9596 3456

F: (+61 3) 9596 3625

W: http://www.abelard.com.au

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Convert MIF to .fm (Frame) in Windows environment??

2007-12-14 Thread seos
Hi,

I'm no Frame expert so am hoping someone can help me here.  I was able to use 
fmbatch in a Unix environment to basically take a MIF file, open it, import 
formats from a template file, and then Save it as a .fm file (which was then 
included in a Frame book).

Now I'm in a Windows environment where fmbatch is not available.  Is there a 
way to still accomplish this same thing, in an automatic/scripted fashion (i.e. 
I don't want to have to manually open/save).

Thanks!!
Sue
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PDF Job Options in FM8 and FM7.2

2007-12-14 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Framers,

I'm using custom PDF Job Options (which have settings following Dov's GREAT
recommendations). I can "see" and select these Job Options in FrameMaker 8,
but not in Frame 7.2.

Any ideas how I can fix this? I remember reading something about putting the
joboptions file in a correct folder in Documents and Settings\Application
Data.

Thanks in advance.




-- 
Yves Barbion
Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor



Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-14 Thread Shlomo Perets
Hi Peter,

Thanks for your detailed and interesting reply!

My comment was not focused on a specific FM8 bug, but on the apparent state 
of affairs where a product is released "as is" so as not to miss a 
deadline, but losing out on other fronts in major ways.

Some other FM8 bugs/issues are listed at 
www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM80 (and several others were reported in 
different FrameMaker forums).

Obviously, I cannot comment on whether the specific format selection bug 
was reported during beta testing or not.

You say that "FM 8.0.1 came out pretty soon after 8.0". FM8 was released 
end of July/beginning of August, and the patch was made available Nov. 22 
-- so that's three and a half months at least.
Interestingly, the same FM8.0.1 patch was implemented in the Adobe Tech 
Comm Suite, released one month earlier than the FM8 patch.

Regards,

Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat



Acrobat / FrameMaker conflicts during install

2007-12-14 Thread Eric Dunn
I think the question that remains, is when will the two applications
become more aware of each other so that you needn't have to worry?

That FM doesn't ask to install distiller if an Acrobat installation is
found and that Acrobat fixes a FM distiller only install if a FM
installation is found?

On 12/13/07, Dov Isaacs  wrote:
> With any recent version of both FrameMaker and Acrobat
> there is absolutely NO reason to install one or another
> first. What is true is that if you have or plan to have
> the full Acrobat package (Standard, Pro, or 3D) installed,
> as Joel advises, DO NOT install either the "PDF add-on thing"
> or the "Distiller-only package" (FrameMaker 7.2 and earlier).
>
>- Dov


PDF bookmark font is Arial not Arial-CE

2007-12-14 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
IIRC, Acrobat does not support "foreign characters" in bookmarks, at
least not in the older versions. I have not yet tested it in Acrobat
8.

Bodvar

On Dec 13, 2007 4:17 PM, Chinell, David F (GE Indust, Security)
 wrote:
> I'm writing on behalf of a co-worker.
>
> OS: Windows XP
> FrameMaker: 7.0
>
> She's creating a PDF from a FrameMaker document, using Print Book and
> selecting the Acrobat printer.
>
> The problem is that while the body styles are defined as Arial CE, the
> bookmarks are appearing (we guess) in Arial. That is, the symptom is
> that the bookmarks are garbled as the Polish headings contain characters
> not found, or not correctly mapped.
>
> How does one solve this problem? Specify a font for use in the bookmarks
> somehow? Or is there a different problem that's producing this symptom?
>
> Bear
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FM8 Bug: Lines not breaking after em dash and en dash

2007-12-14 Thread Mike Wickham
Is anyone else seeing this? In FM8 Format> Document> Text Options, I have 
"Allow Line Breaks After" set to forward slash, hyphen, en dash, and em 
dash. I believe these are the default values. Lines break after a slash or 
hyphen, but not after either em or en dashes. It has caused reflow in 
documents originally created in FM7.1.

Mike Wickham




PDF bookmark font is Arial not Arial-CE

2007-12-14 Thread Ann Zdunczyk
I know that Maxwell Hoffmann mhoffmann at translate.com with ENLASO
Corporation, demonstrated a way that they fix this with a procedure that
they came up with. You might check with him about this.

Z


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President
a2z Publishing, Inc.
Language Layout & Translation Consulting
Phone: (336)922-1271
Fax:   (336)922-4980
Cell:  (336)456-4493
http://www.a2z-pub.com
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-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bodvar
Bjorgvinsson
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:27 AM
To: Chinell, David F (GE Indust, Security)
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF bookmark font is Arial not Arial-CE

IIRC, Acrobat does not support "foreign characters" in bookmarks, at least
not in the older versions. I have not yet tested it in Acrobat 8.

Bodvar

On Dec 13, 2007 4:17 PM, Chinell, David F (GE Indust, Security)
 wrote:
> I'm writing on behalf of a co-worker.
>
> OS: Windows XP
> FrameMaker: 7.0
>
> She's creating a PDF from a FrameMaker document, using Print Book and 
> selecting the Acrobat printer.
>
> The problem is that while the body styles are defined as Arial CE, the 
> bookmarks are appearing (we guess) in Arial. That is, the symptom is 
> that the bookmarks are garbled as the Polish headings contain 
> characters not found, or not correctly mapped.
>
> How does one solve this problem? Specify a font for use in the 
> bookmarks somehow? Or is there a different problem that's producing this
symptom?
>
> Bear
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Printed documentation

2007-12-14 Thread Geoffrey Marnell
Hi framers,



Can anyone recall whether a printed User Guide was available with FM 7?



If so, is anyone willing to sell me a copy?



Cheers



Geoffrey Marnell

Principal Consultant

Abelard Consulting Pty Ltd

T: (+61 3) 9596 3456

F: (+61 3) 9596 3625

W: http://www.abelard.com.au

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Convert MIF to .fm (Frame) in Windows environment??

2007-12-14 Thread s...@comcast.net
Hi,

I'm no Frame expert so am hoping someone can help me here.  I was able to use 
fmbatch in a Unix environment to basically take a MIF file, open it, import 
formats from a template file, and then Save it as a .fm file (which was then 
included in a Frame book).

Now I'm in a Windows environment where fmbatch is not available.  Is there a 
way to still accomplish this same thing, in an automatic/scripted fashion (i.e. 
I don't want to have to manually open/save).

Thanks!!
Sue