geometry in framescript

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,
Does anyone know what is the syntax for sin and cos function in FrameScript?
I'm trying to draw a curve based on sin(x) function but it doesn't seem to be 
available in FrameScript.

Ideas?

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[Wendy McGovern]

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14, and 16. 

 

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and maybe just send a quick note to the list that you have done so, so
that people know that I now have copies of them and I don't get zillions
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[Steve Rickaby]

Hi Framers

Over the past few years I and others have been writing a quarterly article on 
uses of FrameMaker for the 'Tools' column of the ISTC quarterly journal 
'Communicator'. (The ISTC is the UK equivalent of the STC: 
http://www.istc.org.uk)

Although no payment is available, writing an article for this journal gets your 
name in front of most of the technical communicators in the UK and many in 
Europe, as well as many of their clients. One contributor found that writing an 
article for us had a very beneficial effect with his employers.

If anyone well-versed in FrameMaker is interested in writing for us, articles 
normally run to about 1500 words (although they can go up to twice that if 
required). We would be most interested in material on the following topics:

. Advanced plug-ins

. Use of complex conditional statements in FrameMaker 8

. Best approaches to import of material from Microsoft Word in FrameMaker 8

. Use of markers in association with Robohelp of Webworks

I can provide example articles and supporting material to anyone who is 
interested.

The next available slot is the spring issue, which has a closing date for copy 
of 31st January.

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Re: Tab issue with FrameMaker 8

[blamborn]

When I checked the formats of each paragraph style, I overlooked one on the 
heading that was giving me the problem. The box for the right indent on the 
Basic tab was set to 4.0. I reset it to zero and the tab/leader works properly 
now.

Thanks to all for your help.


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From: Klaus Daube fr...@daube.ch
 blamb...@comcast.net wrote:
 
   The tab mark is there, and I checked to make sure that all of the
   definitions in the Paragraph Designer were the same for all (tab
   position and leader type).
 ...
 
 Something I have noticed with right tabulation:
 FM may trap into rounding errors (at least in the metric world). If you
 have a tab position R 18.0cm and a text frame 18.0cm wide it may happen
 that the tab is not performed. In such cases I just set the tab 
 position to 17.95 cm, which
 is not visible.
 
 FM works internally with an unknown unit of measure (it may be a MIL = 
 0.001 inch, but I am not certain)
 
 FWIW
 Klaus Daube 
 
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DTP (sort of) issue

[Alison Peck]

Hi,

 

I've been using FM now for a couple of years to typeset two journals. I know
it's a strange use, but it has been working well for a number of reasons:

1)  The magazines include a fair number of equations

2)  The journals are for programmers, and include a lot of code listings

3)  They include a mix of high-resolution photographs and low-res screen
shots

4)  One of the journals is also published on a website electronically,
and I've been using WebWorks to generate the XML that I then send off to
someone else for subsequent processing

5)  I already owned (and am an experienced user of) FrameMaker. at the
time, we were moving from an old version of Quark and anything that meant I
didn't have to space text using tabs then draw in the lines every time I
wanted a table had to be an improvement.

 

If I insert images, boxed code listing, etc. in anchored frames, the
contents (I believe, but I've not tested exhaustively) are exported to XML
in the correct positions (can anyone confirm that this is absolutely the
case?). However, my ability to position these items is then limited - I have
much more flexibility if I put them in a non-anchored frame of some sort. I
realise I could move the anchor to help with the position. but that defeats
the object of keeping things in the right order.

 

Unfortunately, during a redesign a while ago now, nearly all of the listings
and most of the images were lifted out of the main flow. This has greatly
improved the appearance for print - and the ease of reading, where listings
used to start and stop in strange places -  but made the job of the guy
working with the XML much harder. he's just let me know he's struggling!!
Most of the listings get dumped at the end of the XML but not necessarily in
the correct order and quite a few of the listings split across more than one
box.

 

I'm currently using FrameMaker 7.2 and the bundled WebWorks that came with
it.

 

What I want to know is:

 

1)  Am I missing a trick with FM? Is there a way to indicate where
something should be positioned if outside the constraints of paper but keep
the flexibility of positions (sometimes even on a facing page!) required
when working for print

2)  Can anyone recommend an alternative package that can do this? Work
well for print (at least as good as FM) but also exports to XML with things
in a logical order? (When we used Quark, the listings were just sequential -
sometimes you got just one or two lines at the bottom of a page and the rest
overleaf. nobody was happy with it, except for the guy converting to XML ;-)

 

Unfortunately, for reasons of layout, many of FM's automated features are
not being used (ToC is generated manually, because it contains short
descriptions of the articles; in-text references are in a very non-standard
format and I need to be able to choose where exactly to place footnotes).

 

I appreciate that anything is going to require some manual tweaking to the
XML. merging a cont'd listing into the one before, for example. but
minimising this would be great.

 

If anyone needs to see a PDF of the journal to see what I'm trying to
achieve, I'm happy to send one out - please contact me off-list.


Thanks in advance,

 

 

Alison

 

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Re: DTP (sort of) issue

[Alan Litchfield]

Hi Allison,

Good on you for switching the journal publication to Frame ;)

The first question that comes to mind is, why are you exporting to  
XML? Why not use mif2go and to straight to html? You could perhaps use  
style sheets provided by the web developer and further reduce the  
amount of work required.

Alan

On 20/12/2008, at 6:24 AM, Alison Peck wrote:

 Hi,



 I've been using FM now for a couple of years to typeset two  
 journals. I know
 it's a strange use, but it has been working well for a number of  
 reasons:

 1)  The magazines include a fair number of equations

 2)  The journals are for programmers, and include a lot of code  
 listings

 3)  They include a mix of high-resolution photographs and low- 
 res screen
 shots

 4)  One of the journals is also published on a website  
 electronically,
 and I've been using WebWorks to generate the XML that I then send  
 off to
 someone else for subsequent processing

 5)  I already owned (and am an experienced user of) FrameMaker.  
 at the
 time, we were moving from an old version of Quark and anything that  
 meant I
 didn't have to space text using tabs then draw in the lines every  
 time I
 wanted a table had to be an improvement.



 If I insert images, boxed code listing, etc. in anchored frames, the
 contents (I believe, but I've not tested exhaustively) are exported  
 to XML
 in the correct positions (can anyone confirm that this is absolutely  
 the
 case?). However, my ability to position these items is then limited  
 - I have
 much more flexibility if I put them in a non-anchored frame of some  
 sort. I
 realise I could move the anchor to help with the position. but that  
 defeats
 the object of keeping things in the right order.



 Unfortunately, during a redesign a while ago now, nearly all of the  
 listings
 and most of the images were lifted out of the main flow. This has  
 greatly
 improved the appearance for print - and the ease of reading, where  
 listings
 used to start and stop in strange places -  but made the job of the  
 guy
 working with the XML much harder. he's just let me know he's  
 struggling!!
 Most of the listings get dumped at the end of the XML but not  
 necessarily in
 the correct order and quite a few of the listings split across more  
 than one
 box.



 I'm currently using FrameMaker 7.2 and the bundled WebWorks that  
 came with
 it.



 What I want to know is:



 1)  Am I missing a trick with FM? Is there a way to indicate where
 something should be positioned if outside the constraints of paper  
 but keep
 the flexibility of positions (sometimes even on a facing page!)  
 required
 when working for print

 2)  Can anyone recommend an alternative package that can do  
 this? Work
 well for print (at least as good as FM) but also exports to XML with  
 things
 in a logical order? (When we used Quark, the listings were just  
 sequential -
 sometimes you got just one or two lines at the bottom of a page and  
 the rest
 overleaf. nobody was happy with it, except for the guy converting to  
 XML ;-)



 Unfortunately, for reasons of layout, many of FM's automated  
 features are
 not being used (ToC is generated manually, because it contains short
 descriptions of the articles; in-text references are in a very non- 
 standard
 format and I need to be able to choose where exactly to place  
 footnotes).



 I appreciate that anything is going to require some manual tweaking  
 to the
 XML. merging a cont'd listing into the one before, for example. but
 minimising this would be great.



 If anyone needs to see a PDF of the journal to see what I'm trying to
 achieve, I'm happy to send one out - please contact me off-list.


 Thanks in advance,





 Alison



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geometry in framescript

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,
Does anyone know what is the syntax for sin and cos function in FrameScript?
I'm trying to draw a curve based on sin(x) function but it doesn't seem to be 
available in FrameScript.

Ideas?

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Missing digests vol 38, issues 13, 14, and 16

[Wendy McGovern]

It's Murphy's Law. The one time I send a question to the list, our
e-mail system goes on the fritz and I'm missing the digests that
contained my question and replies (although I did get some replies to my
regular e-mail address rather than just the digest-thanks to those who
replied).



I don't know whether the archives make it possible to get entire
digests, but I thought it would be easier to just ask some kind Framer
to forward me the digests that I am missing. I need Vol. 38, issues 13,
14, and 16. 



Could someone please send them to my individual e-mail address below,
and maybe just send a quick note to the list that you have done so, so
that people know that I now have copies of them and I don't get zillions
of replies after that? 



It would be most appreciated. (I will be out the next two weeks, so
there is no hurry.) Thanks!



Wendy McGovern
Publications Editor
Pennsylvania Bar Institute
5080 Ritter Road
Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-6903
1-800-932-4637, ext. 2257
wmcgovern at pbi.org

Soliciting articles for the ISTC journal

[Steve Rickaby]

Hi Framers

Over the past few years I and others have been writing a quarterly article on 
uses of FrameMaker for the 'Tools' column of the ISTC quarterly journal 
'Communicator'. (The ISTC is the UK equivalent of the STC: 
)

Although no payment is available, writing an article for this journal gets your 
name in front of most of the technical communicators in the UK and many in 
Europe, as well as many of their clients. One contributor found that writing an 
article for us had a very beneficial effect with his employers.

If anyone well-versed in FrameMaker is interested in writing for us, articles 
normally run to about 1500 words (although they can go up to twice that if 
required). We would be most interested in material on the following topics:

. Advanced plug-ins

. Use of complex conditional statements in FrameMaker 8

. Best approaches to import of material from Microsoft Word in FrameMaker 8

. Use of markers in association with Robohelp of Webworks

I can provide example articles and supporting material to anyone who is 
interested.

The next available slot is the spring issue, which has a closing date for copy 
of 31st January.

-- 
Steve Rickaby  

WordMongers Ltd

Tab issue with FrameMaker 8

[blamb...@comcast.net]

When I checked the formats of each paragraph style, I overlooked one on the 
heading that was giving me the problem. The box for the right indent on the 
Basic tab was set to 4.0". I reset it to zero and the tab/leader works properly 
now.

Thanks to all for your help.


 -- Original message --
From: "Klaus Daube" 
> blamborn at comcast.net wrote:
> 
> > >> The tab mark is there, and I checked to make sure that all of the
> > >> definitions in the Paragraph Designer were the same for all (tab
> > >> position and leader type).
> ...
> 
> Something I have noticed with right tabulation:
> FM may trap into rounding errors (at least in the metric world). If you
> have a tab position R 18.0cm and a text frame 18.0cm wide it may happen
> that the tab is not performed. In such cases I just set the tab 
> position to 17.95 cm, which
> is not visible.
> 
> FM works internally with an unknown unit of measure (it may be a MIL = 
> 0.001 inch, but I am not certain)
> 
> FWIW
> Klaus Daube 
> 
> http://mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin  
> verpassen.
> 
> Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich
> Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
> Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
> E-mail: ddd at daube.ch  Web: www.daube.ch/
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DTP (sort of) issue

[Alison Peck]

Hi,



I've been using FM now for a couple of years to typeset two journals. I know
it's a strange use, but it has been working well for a number of reasons:

1)  The magazines include a fair number of equations

2)  The journals are for programmers, and include a lot of code listings

3)  They include a mix of high-resolution photographs and low-res screen
shots

4)  One of the journals is also published on a website electronically,
and I've been using WebWorks to generate the XML that I then send off to
someone else for subsequent processing

5)  I already owned (and am an experienced user of) FrameMaker. at the
time, we were moving from an old version of Quark and anything that meant I
didn't have to space text using tabs then draw in the lines every time I
wanted a table had to be an improvement.



If I insert images, boxed code listing, etc. in anchored frames, the
contents (I believe, but I've not tested exhaustively) are exported to XML
in the correct positions (can anyone confirm that this is absolutely the
case?). However, my ability to position these items is then limited - I have
much more flexibility if I put them in a non-anchored frame of some sort. I
realise I could move the anchor to help with the position. but that defeats
the object of keeping things in the right order.



Unfortunately, during a redesign a while ago now, nearly all of the listings
and most of the images were lifted out of the main flow. This has greatly
improved the appearance for print - and the ease of reading, where listings
used to start and stop in strange places -  but made the job of the guy
working with the XML much harder. he's just let me know he's struggling!!
Most of the listings get dumped at the end of the XML but not necessarily in
the correct order and quite a few of the listings split across more than one
"box".



I'm currently using FrameMaker 7.2 and the bundled WebWorks that came with
it.



What I want to know is:



1)  Am I missing a trick with FM? Is there a way to indicate where
something should be positioned if outside the constraints of paper but keep
the flexibility of positions (sometimes even on a facing page!) required
when working for print

2)  Can anyone recommend an alternative package that can do this? Work
well for print (at least as good as FM) but also exports to XML with things
in a logical order? (When we used Quark, the listings were just sequential -
sometimes you got just one or two lines at the bottom of a page and the rest
overleaf. nobody was happy with it, except for the guy converting to XML ;-)



Unfortunately, for reasons of layout, many of FM's automated features are
not being used (ToC is generated manually, because it contains short
descriptions of the articles; in-text references are in a very non-standard
format and I need to be able to choose where exactly to place footnotes).



I appreciate that anything is going to require some manual tweaking to the
XML. merging a "cont'd" listing into the one before, for example. but
minimising this would be great.



If anyone needs to see a PDF of the journal to see what I'm trying to
achieve, I'm happy to send one out - please contact me off-list.


Thanks in advance,





Alison

Linked In users, a group devoted to FrameMaker

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

For anyone on the list who happens to be a Linked In member, I wanted you to
know that someone has created a Linked In group devoted to FrameMaker,
called "Friends of FrameMaker." This group is very new, and has about 43
members, questions are already being posted.

You can either search Groups for "FrameMaker" or go to:
http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=897507=anetsrch_name=.gdr_1229
734367125_1

This is also a great place to let people know about the FrameUsers mail
list.

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Identifying overrides in FrameMaker

[Joseph]

Hi Nancy,

If you want to replace one paragraph tag with another, do the following:

   1. Use the Copy Special > Paragraph Format to copy the new paragraph to
   your clipboard.
   2. Open the find and replace dialog box.
   3. In the Find drop-down menu, select Paragraph tag.
   4. In the Find field, type the name of the old paragraph tag.
   5. In the Paste drop-down menu, select paste by (this means that whatever
   is in your clipboard will be pasted in place of the old paragraph tag, in
   this case cause you copied the new paragraph format to your clipboard, the
   new paragraph will replace it.
   6. DO NOT do a an All change.
   7. Make one change to verify that it is working.
   8. THEN do an All change.

That should convert all your old paragraph tags in your book to the new
ones.

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Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini