SCORM

[Rene Stephenson]

Hi All,

We have a client who requires training materials to be SCORM 
compliant/conformant. I know there's software out there that can be bought to 
do this... however... we have ton of extant material in FM9 that's all 
single-sourced (in a disciplined, unstructured way), and we have TCS2, so I'm 
hoping there's a way to use the tools and content we have, to minimize rework 
and duplication of content (back to that single-sourcing concept). I searched 
the archives and adobe.com for SCORM, came up empty handed here and a ton of 
completely irrelevant results at adobe.com.

I sure would appreciate some shared insight/experience. If you know of 
articles, etc., about using TCS2 to develop SCORM-compliant materials, that 
would be great, too.

Thanks,

Rene L. Stephenson

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Customizing page numbering

[Adam Schweitzer]

Hi All,
 
We have some documents which need to have pages numbered in the
following way:
n / (n + 1)
where n is the page number.  (IE. on page 33, it needs to say 33/34).
 
Inserting a variable defined as $curpagenum gives page n - but I
cannot figure out a way to insert n + 1 (ie. $curpagenum + 1 does not
give the result I hoped for..)
 
How would I go about doing this?
 
Regards,
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Re: Customizing page numbering

[Rene Stephenson]

Adam, logically if there's a 10 page document and the n / (n+1) formula were 
implemented, page 2 would say 2 / 3 ... page 3 would say 3 / 4 ... page 8 
would say 8 / 9 ...up to page 10, which would say 10 / 11 Is what you 
intend? I find that confusing. Or are you wanting page number of a total count 
of pages within a chapter, in which case the aforementioned 10 pager would be 
marked 2 /10...3 / 10... 8 / 10... 10 / 10...?

 
Rene



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[deletia]

We have some documents which need to have pages numbered in the
following way:
n / (n + 1)
where n is the page number.  (IE. on page 33, it needs to say 33/34).

[deletia]

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Re: Customizing page numbering

[Art Campbell]

OK, you didn't provide many details on your setup, but if you're doing
something where the back of the numbered page is actually 34, but in
the book it's blank... you could do this:

Start with the current page number variable for the visible page, as
you have it.

On the blank page, put a paragraph tag that you set up so the font is
white, so it won't be visible. Then insert the current page number
variable as the tag's content. Note that it needs to be in a body text
flow, but you can create a small text frame for a B text flow to hide
it, and so that it won't move with pagination changes.

Back on the visible page, put in a cross-reference to the hidden
paragraph tag, and specify $paranumonly as the contents of the
cross-ref format.


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On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Adam Schweitzer
adam.schweit...@magellan.aero wrote:
 Hi All,

 We have some documents which need to have pages numbered in the
 following way:
 n / (n + 1)
 where n is the page number.  (IE. on page 33, it needs to say 33/34).

 Inserting a variable defined as $curpagenum gives page n - but I
 cannot figure out a way to insert n + 1 (ie. $curpagenum + 1 does not
 give the result I hoped for..)

 How would I go about doing this?

 Regards,
 Adam Schweitzer
 Orenda Aerospace
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RE: Customizing page numbering

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Adam,

Do you need to be able to use this numbering in generated files (TOC, IX,
etc.) and/or cross-references? Or does it just need to appear this way on
the page? Thanks.

Rick

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Subject: Customizing page numbering

Hi All,
 
We have some documents which need to have pages numbered in the
following way:
n / (n + 1)
where n is the page number.  (IE. on page 33, it needs to say 33/34).
 
Inserting a variable defined as $curpagenum gives page n - but I
cannot figure out a way to insert n + 1 (ie. $curpagenum + 1 does not
give the result I hoped for..)
 
How would I go about doing this?
 
Regards,
Adam Schweitzer
Orenda Aerospace
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Re: SCORM

[Bill Swallow]

This should help you get started.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4488599_scorm-conformant-course.html

You can create a new project in RoboHelp to export content into the
required folder structure and group content into SCOs. You can add
reference to the js file to your output page templates in RoboHelp.
Then use title page templates for each SCO that contain the LMS
communications script you need in order for the LMS to recognize the
SCO. Finally, create the manifest for your SCORM package and zip it
all up.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Rene Stephenson rinn...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 We have a client who requires training materials to be SCORM 
 compliant/conformant. I know there's software out there that can be bought to 
 do this... however... we have ton of extant material in FM9 that's all 
 single-sourced (in a disciplined, unstructured way), and we have TCS2, so I'm 
 hoping there's a way to use the tools and content we have, to minimize rework 
 and duplication of content (back to that single-sourcing concept). I searched 
 the archives and adobe.com for SCORM, came up empty handed here and a ton of 
 completely irrelevant results at adobe.com.

 I sure would appreciate some shared insight/experience. If you know of 
 articles, etc., about using TCS2 to develop SCORM-compliant materials, that 
 would be great, too.

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Re: SCORM

[Rene Stephenson]

Bill, 
Thanks I had read that article, but was having trouble figuring out whether RH 
was a good tool for the job. I haven't used RH since version X3 (last help 
systems I did were in WebWorks), and we only got TCS2 this quarter.

If this is going into a client's LMS, I would need to get the client to send me 
the LMS communications script, right? (Bear with me...) I'm thinking if we have 
our own LMS but it differs from the client's LMS, I'd need to make sure what I 
deliver to them is customized for their LMS...
Rene


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From: Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.com


This should help you get started.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4488599_scorm-conformant-course.html

You can create a new project in RoboHelp to export content into the
required folder structure and group content into SCOs. You can add
reference to the js file to your output page templates in RoboHelp.
Then use title page templates for each SCO that contain the LMS
communications script you need in order for the LMS to recognize the
SCO. Finally, create the manifest for your SCORM package and zip it
all up.

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Re: SCORM

[Bill Swallow]

 Thanks I had read that article, but was having trouble figuring out whether 
 RH was a good tool for the job. I haven't used RH since version X3 (last help 
 systems I did were in WebWorks), and we only got TCS2 this quarter.

It should work. You need to create basic HTML output that adheres to
the required output folder structure for SCORM. You can certainly try
WebHelp but you will need to do a lot more work to get the output to
conform to the required folder structure.

 If this is going into a client's LMS, I would need to get the client to send 
 me the LMS communications script, right? (Bear with me...) I'm thinking if we 
 have our own LMS but it differs from the client's LMS, I'd need to make sure 
 what I deliver to them is customized for their LMS...

SCORM is SCORM. The LMS conforms to the format, not the other way
around. SCORM is portable from LMS to LMS. All of the communication
happens via the API.

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Re: SCORM

[Rene Stephenson]

Bill, thanks for clarifying about the LMS and API.

(WebHelp isn't an option for us anymore, because the version we had doesn't 
work with anything higher than FM7.2; so when we chose TCS2, we did so with the 
understanding that WebHelp would be abandoned. The transition happened between 
product line life cycles, so it's a clean break.)

From an overall view of the library, if the content is sourced in FM at the 
chapter-per-file level, using text insets, variables, and conditional text for 
single-sourcing, is this going to cause problems vis-a-vis going through RH to 
get to SCO-conformant HTML? Would we be able to use frames in the HTML help 
and have the script referenced in the metadata of the mainframe? or is that 
something that has to be in the actual code of every single HTML file in the 
project?

Rene


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From: Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.com

You can certainly try
WebHelp but you will need to do a lot more work to get the output to
conform to the required folder structure.
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Global changes to Anchored Frames?

[Art Campbell]

Has anyone run across a plug-in or FrameScript that applies the same
set of global properties to all anchored frames in a file or book?

I'm working on a legacy document and I need to change all anchored
frames to have a 1 pt black rule, right align, have the same width,
and be set to Below Current Line.
Bonus points for setting the graphic inside to 0/0 offset.

(ImpGraph does some of this for newly imported graphics, but this is
applying changes to existing frames... more of a global SR
operation.)

Thanks,
Art

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Re: [Free Framers] Re: Global changes to Anchored Frames?

[Art Campbell]

Hi Wayne,

Thanks for doing the research, but this is to change existing frames  content.
ImpGraph does this (partially -- doesn't do the rules and content
position -- for NEW imports. And it does it very well.

However, I'm happy to report that Rick Quattro at
frameexp...@truevine.net has a script that he quickly modified to do
this.
I'm a happy customer.

Cheers,
Art


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On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Wayne Brissette wayn...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Maybe somebody here on the list can comment on this. There was a tool called 
 ImpGraph that did this sort of thing. The link I had for it is dead (the site 
 is no longer valid). Anybody remember that tool and if it did everything 
 Art's looking for? It was a PC only tool, and not of much interest since at 
 the time I was using FM on the Mac (RIP...).

 Wayne


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Sent: Mar 4, 2010 11:43 AM
To: Free Framers Subscriber wayn...@earthlink.net
Subject: [Free Framers] Global changes to Anchored Frames?


Has anyone run across a plug-in or FrameScript that applies the same
set of global properties to all anchored frames in a file or book?

I'm working on a legacy document and I need to change all anchored
frames to have a 1 pt black rule, right align, have the same width,
and be set to Below Current Line.
Bonus points for setting the graphic inside to 0/0 offset.

(ImpGraph does some of this for newly imported graphics, but this is
applying changes to existing frames... more of a global SR
operation.)

Thanks,
Art

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Re: SCORM

[Bill Swallow]

 Bill, thanks for clarifying about the LMS and API.

No problem. SCORM was developed to be a universal LMS courseware
format. If a LMS has a custom API for courseware, then it's not SCORM.

 (WebHelp isn't an option for us anymore, because the version we had doesn't 
 work with anything higher than FM7.2; so when we chose TCS2, we did so with 
 the understanding that WebHelp would be abandoned. The transition happened 
 between product line life cycles, so it's a clean break.)

I think you are thinking of Webworks Help. WebHelp is a RoboHelp
format. But that's aside from the issue. Using this would require
hefty scripting changes to the nuts and bolts that make the Help work,
given the file structure would have to conform to the SCORM model.

 From an overall view of the library, if the content is sourced in FM at the 
 chapter-per-file level, using text insets, variables, and conditional text 
 for single-sourcing, is this going to cause problems vis-a-vis going through 
 RH to get to SCO-conformant HTML? Would we be able to use frames in the HTML 
 help and have the script referenced in the metadata of the mainframe? or is 
 that something that has to be in the actual code of every single HTML file in 
 the project?

As long as every HTML file contains the javascript reference and each
lesson (SCO) has a unique frameset, you're fine. Again, the more
complex you want your output to be, the more complex the need to
customize your Help project.

I did forget to mention that you also need to define the end page for
each SCO, like you do for the first page of each SCO. I've never used
framesets when creating SCORM courses, so I'm not sure how that would
exactly work, unless you have a progression like (pseudocode):

first SCO file/
   frameset
   course files/
   /frameset
last sco file/

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Re: SCORM

[Rene Stephenson]

Bill,

I think I should be setting it up from the Blank template so that I can use the 
HTML Help output from RH...and skip the idea of framesets and RH WebHelp for 
now. If I can get it working in simplified form, I can always add complexity 
later as part of continuous improvement processes. ;-)

When you say defining the first and end pages, could that be as 
straight-forward as the file name for the end page being called end_page.html? 
Or does it have to be in the text, the metadata, or pseudocode?

 
Rene



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From: Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.com


As long as every HTML file contains the javascript reference and each
lesson (SCO) has a unique frameset, you're fine. Again, the more
complex you want your output to be, the more complex the need to
customize your Help project.

I did forget to mention that you also need to define the end page for
each SCO, like you do for the first page of each SCO. I've never used
framesets when creating SCORM courses, so I'm not sure how that would
exactly work, unless you have a progression like (pseudocode):

first SCO file/
   frameset
   course files/
   /frameset
last sco file/

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Slightly OT: optimal PC for TCS2 / CS3 use

[Rene Stephenson]

Hi All,

We have PCs that at first blush look quite adequate to meet the system 
requirements spec'd by Adobe for TCS2: P4 (single core) 3.2GHz w/ 3GB RAM 
running WinXP. However...in reality, dealing with TCS2 and docs that are 
hundreds of pages long and chock full of graphics, there is significant wait 
time even just to page-down through the file, generate the book, make a PDF, 
etc... and there are frequent crashes and lock-ups. I think the minimal specs 
usually are intended for the most basic ability to run the given program at 
all. However, I don't find anywhere any recommendations for optimal 
performance. Does anyone have any...?

 
Rene 

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RE: [Free Framers] RE: Change bars for multiple revisions

[Jeff Coatsworth]

You just have to kill off the original sender's e-mail  slap on the 
framers@lists.frameusers.com address (at least that's whet I do) 

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Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:47 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: [Free Framers] RE: Change bars for multiple revisions


Thanks, this gives my brain some directions to think in.

And yes, I fully agree on the message headers!  I always wind up accidentally 
replying only to the sender.

Seonaid

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Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:26 PM
To: Seonaid Welch
Cc: fram...@omsys.com
Subject: RE: [Free Framers] RE: Change bars for multiple revisions

I wrote:  
 
 But you can find by character format -- specifying Change Bar in the 
 Find Character Format dialog (everything else set to As Is) -- and 
 change to a different character format (such as Change Bar plus 
 Underline, or Blue, or ...), or change by pasting to a named character 
 tag (say, Rev. A) copied to the clipboard.
snip 

Finding by character format led my brain down the character format/tag path for 
the change, but you could use the same basic process (change by
pasting) to apply a condition to the Rev. A revisions. In fact, that might be 
preferable if you need to track multiple rounds of revisions.
You can define and apply multiple conditions, overlap them, and they're all 
still there. Can't do that with character tags, and the number of format 
changes available is pretty limited. 

BTW, does anyone else find this list's message addressing annoying? I'm 
responding to my own message, which, according to TO and FROM headers was sent 
by me to me. Thus Reply All addresses my response to me, and neither Seonaid 
nor the list is an addressee -- both have to be added manually. 

Annoying, I tell you, annoying. 

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RE: [Free Framers] RE: Change bars for multiple revisions

[Combs, Richard]

But the thread was on the Free Framers list (fram...@omsys.com), not
FrameUsers (framers@lists.frameusers.com) -- as is the addressing
annoyance. 

On FrameUsers, Reply All addresses both the sender to whom you're
replying and the list, while Reply addresses only the former. On Free
Framers, Reply and Reply All do exactly the same thing, which strikes me
as counter-intuitive and unhelpful. Like Seonaid, I've more than once
replied just to the sender by accident. This makes the list archives
less useful because many of the questions to the list aren't answered on
the list. 

Richard 

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
 boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:55 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: [Free Framers] RE: Change bars for multiple revisions
 
 You just have to kill off the original sender's e-mail  slap on the
 framers@lists.frameusers.com address (at least that's whet I do)
 
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 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:47 PM
 To: Jeff Coatsworth
 Subject: [Free Framers] RE: Change bars for multiple revisions
 
 
 Thanks, this gives my brain some directions to think in.
 
 And yes, I fully agree on the message headers!  I always wind up
 accidentally replying only to the sender.
 
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 I wrote:
 
  But you can find by character format -- specifying Change Bar in the
  Find Character Format dialog (everything else set to As Is) -- and
  change to a different character format (such as Change Bar plus
  Underline, or Blue, or ...), or change by pasting to a named
character
  tag (say, Rev. A) copied to the clipboard.
 snip
 
 Finding by character format led my brain down the character format/tag
path
 for the change, but you could use the same basic process (change by
 pasting) to apply a condition to the Rev. A revisions. In fact, that
might
 be preferable if you need to track multiple rounds of revisions.
 You can define and apply multiple conditions, overlap them, and
they're all
 still there. Can't do that with character tags, and the number of
format
 changes available is pretty limited.
 
 BTW, does anyone else find this list's message addressing annoying?
I'm
 responding to my own message, which, according to TO and FROM headers
was
 sent by me to me. Thus Reply All addresses my response to me, and
neither
 Seonaid nor the list is an addressee -- both have to be added
manually.
 
 Annoying, I tell you, annoying.
 
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Re: Slightly OT: optimal PC for TCS2 / CS3 use

[quills]

Optimal will be a Core-duo 2.66MHz or 3 and above.
If you are running Win 7 which you should rather than Vista, try to go 
for 64-bit. 32-bit will work fine. Max your RAM 4 GB would be good, 
though with 64-bit you could actually use more. And a humongous hard 
drive. Look for 1 TB as a good working arrangement.

Scott


On 3/4/10 2:23 PM, Rene Stephenson wrote:
 Hi All,

 We have PCs that at first blush look quite adequate to meet the system 
 requirements spec'd by Adobe for TCS2: P4 (single core) 3.2GHz w/ 3GB RAM 
 running WinXP. However...in reality, dealing with TCS2 and docs that are 
 hundreds of pages long and chock full of graphics, there is significant wait 
 time even just to page-down through the file, generate the book, make a PDF, 
 etc... and there are frequent crashes and lock-ups. I think the minimal specs 
 usually are intended for the most basic ability to run the given program at 
 all. However, I don't find anywhere any recommendations for optimal 
 performance. Does anyone have any...?


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Re: SCORM

[Bill Swallow]

 I think I should be setting it up from the Blank template so that I can use 
 the HTML Help output from RH...and skip the idea of framesets and RH WebHelp 
 for now. If I can get it working in simplified form, I can always add 
 complexity later as part of continuous improvement processes. ;-)

MS HTML Help? CHM? That won't work for SCORM. You'll need HTML.

 When you say defining the first and end pages, could that be as 
 straight-forward as the file name for the end page being called 
 end_page.html? Or does it have to be in the text, the metadata, or pseudocode?

Per step 4 http://www.ehow.com/how_4488599_scorm-conformant-course.html
you need to determine which pages will be your first and last. Some
good examples of what the markup looks like:

http://forio.com/broadcast/docs/advanced_features/scorm.htm

A decent free tutorial:

http://www.scormcourse.com/scorm_2004_beginner/index.htm

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SCORM

[Rene Stephenson]

Hi All,

We have a client who requires training materials to be SCORM 
compliant/conformant. I know there's software out there that can be bought to 
do this... however... we have ton of extant material in FM9 that's all 
single-sourced (in a disciplined, unstructured way), and we have TCS2, so I'm 
hoping there's a way to use the tools and content we have, to minimize rework 
and duplication of content (back to that single-sourcing concept). I searched 
the archives and adobe.com for SCORM, came up empty handed here and a ton of 
completely irrelevant results at adobe.com.

I sure would appreciate some shared insight/experience. If you know of 
articles, etc., about using TCS2 to develop SCORM-compliant materials, that 
would be great, too.

Thanks,

Rene L. Stephenson

Customizing page numbering

[Rene Stephenson]

Adam, logically if there's a 10 page document and the "n / (n+1)" formula were 
implemented, page 2 would say "2 / 3" ... page 3 would say "3 / 4" ... page 8 
would say "8 / 9" ...up to page 10, which would say "10 / 11" Is what you 
intend? I find that confusing. Or are you wanting page number of a total count 
of pages within a chapter, in which case the aforementioned 10 pager would be 
marked "2 /10"..."3 / 10"... "8 / 10"... "10 / 10"...?


Rene



- Original Message 
From: Adam Schweitzer 
[deletia]

We have some documents which need to have pages numbered in the
following way:
n / (n + 1)
where n is the page number.  (IE. on page 33, it needs to say 33/34).

[deletia]

Customizing page numbering

[Art Campbell]

OK, you didn't provide many details on your setup, but if you're doing
something where the back of the numbered page is actually 34, but in
the book it's blank... you could do this:

Start with the current page number variable for the visible page, as
you have it.

On the blank page, put a paragraph tag that you set up so the font is
white, so it won't be visible. Then insert the current page number
variable as the tag's content. Note that it needs to be in a body text
flow, but you can create a small text frame for a B text flow to hide
it, and so that it won't move with pagination changes.

Back on the "visible" page, put in a cross-reference to the hidden
paragraph tag, and specify <$paranumonly> as the contents of the
cross-ref format.


Art Campbell
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On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Adam Schweitzer
 wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We have some documents which need to have pages numbered in the
> following way:
> n / (n + 1)
> where n is the page number. ?(IE. on page 33, it needs to say 33/34).
>
> Inserting a variable defined as <$curpagenum> gives page n - but I
> cannot figure out a way to insert n + 1 (ie. <$curpagenum + 1> does not
> give the result I hoped for..)
>
> How would I go about doing this?
>
> Regards,
> Adam Schweitzer
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Customizing page numbering

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Adam,

Do you need to be able to use this numbering in generated files (TOC, IX,
etc.) and/or cross-references? Or does it just need to appear this way on
the page? Thanks.

Rick

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Adam Schweitzer
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 8:23 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Customizing page numbering

Hi All,

We have some documents which need to have pages numbered in the
following way:
n / (n + 1)
where n is the page number.  (IE. on page 33, it needs to say 33/34).

Inserting a variable defined as <$curpagenum> gives page n - but I
cannot figure out a way to insert n + 1 (ie. <$curpagenum + 1> does not
give the result I hoped for..)

How would I go about doing this?

Regards,
Adam Schweitzer
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SCORM

[Bill Swallow]

This should help you get started.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4488599_scorm-conformant-course.html

You can create a new project in RoboHelp to export content into the
required folder structure and group content into SCOs. You can add
reference to the js file to your output page templates in RoboHelp.
Then use title page templates for each SCO that contain the LMS
communications script you need in order for the LMS to recognize the
SCO. Finally, create the manifest for your SCORM package and zip it
all up.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Rene Stephenson  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We have a client who requires training materials to be SCORM 
> compliant/conformant. I know there's software out there that can be bought to 
> do this... however... we have ton of extant material in FM9 that's all 
> single-sourced (in a disciplined, unstructured way), and we have TCS2, so I'm 
> hoping there's a way to use the tools and content we have, to minimize rework 
> and duplication of content (back to that single-sourcing concept). I searched 
> the archives and adobe.com for SCORM, came up empty handed here and a ton of 
> completely irrelevant results at adobe.com.
>
> I sure would appreciate some shared insight/experience. If you know of 
> articles, etc., about using TCS2 to develop SCORM-compliant materials, that 
> would be great, too.

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SCORM

[Rene Stephenson]

Bill, 
Thanks I had read that article, but was having trouble figuring out whether RH 
was a good tool for the job. I haven't used RH since version X3 (last help 
systems I did were in WebWorks), and we only got TCS2 this quarter.

If this is going into a client's LMS, I would need to get the client to send me 
the LMS communications script, right? (Bear with me...) I'm thinking if we have 
our own LMS but it differs from the client's LMS, I'd need to make sure what I 
deliver to them is customized for their LMS...
Rene


- Original Message 
From: Bill Swallow 


This should help you get started.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4488599_scorm-conformant-course.html

You can create a new project in RoboHelp to export content into the
required folder structure and group content into SCOs. You can add
reference to the js file to your output page templates in RoboHelp.
Then use title page templates for each SCO that contain the LMS
communications script you need in order for the LMS to recognize the
SCO. Finally, create the manifest for your SCORM package and zip it
all up.

SCORM

[Bill Swallow]

> Thanks I had read that article, but was having trouble figuring out whether 
> RH was a good tool for the job. I haven't used RH since version X3 (last help 
> systems I did were in WebWorks), and we only got TCS2 this quarter.

It should work. You need to create basic HTML output that adheres to
the required output folder structure for SCORM. You can certainly try
WebHelp but you will need to do a lot more work to get the output to
conform to the required folder structure.

> If this is going into a client's LMS, I would need to get the client to send 
> me the LMS communications script, right? (Bear with me...) I'm thinking if we 
> have our own LMS but it differs from the client's LMS, I'd need to make sure 
> what I deliver to them is customized for their LMS...

SCORM is SCORM. The LMS conforms to the format, not the other way
around. SCORM is portable from LMS to LMS. All of the communication
happens via the API.

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SCORM

[Rene Stephenson]

Bill, thanks for clarifying about the LMS and API.

(WebHelp isn't an option for us anymore, because the version we had doesn't 
work with anything higher than FM7.2; so when we chose TCS2, we did so with the 
understanding that WebHelp would be abandoned. The transition happened between 
product line life cycles, so it's a clean break.)

>From an overall view of the library, if the content is sourced in FM at the 
>chapter-per-file level, using text insets, variables, and conditional text for 
>single-sourcing, is this going to cause problems vis-a-vis going through RH to 
>get to SCO-conformant HTML? Would we be able to use frames in the HTML help 
>and have the script referenced in the metadata of the mainframe? or is that 
>something that has to be in the actual code of every single HTML file in the 
>project?

Rene


- Original Message 
From: Bill Swallow 

You can certainly try
WebHelp but you will need to do a lot more work to get the output to
conform to the required folder structure.

Global changes to Anchored Frames?

[Art Campbell]

Has anyone run across a plug-in or FrameScript that applies the same
set of global properties to all anchored frames in a file or book?

I'm working on a legacy document and I need to change all anchored
frames to have a 1 pt black rule, right align, have the same width,
and be set to Below Current Line.
Bonus points for setting the graphic inside to 0/0 offset.

(ImpGraph does some of this for newly imported graphics, but this is
applying changes to existing frames... more of a global S
operation.)

Thanks,
Art

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[Free Framers] Re: Global changes to Anchored Frames?

[Art Campbell]

Hi Wayne,

Thanks for doing the research, but this is to change existing frames & content.
ImpGraph does this (partially -- doesn't do the rules and content
position -- for NEW imports. And it does it very well.

However, I'm happy to report that Rick Quattro at
frameexpert at truevine.net has a script that he quickly modified to do
this.
I'm a happy customer.

Cheers,
Art


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On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Wayne Brissette  
wrote:
>
> Maybe somebody here on the list can comment on this. There was a tool called 
> ImpGraph that did this sort of thing. The link I had for it is dead (the site 
> is no longer valid). Anybody remember that tool and if it did everything 
> Art's looking for? It was a PC only tool, and not of much interest since at 
> the time I was using FM on the Mac (RIP...).
>
> Wayne
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: Art Campbell 
>>Sent: Mar 4, 2010 11:43 AM
>>To: Free Framers Subscriber 
>>Subject: [Free Framers] Global changes to Anchored Frames?
>>
>>
>>Has anyone run across a plug-in or FrameScript that applies the same
>>set of global properties to all anchored frames in a file or book?
>>
>>I'm working on a legacy document and I need to change all anchored
>>frames to have a 1 pt black rule, right align, have the same width,
>>and be set to Below Current Line.
>>Bonus points for setting the graphic inside to 0/0 offset.
>>
>>(ImpGraph does some of this for newly imported graphics, but this is
>>applying changes to existing frames... more of a global S
>>operation.)
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Art
>>
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SCORM

[Bill Swallow]

> Bill, thanks for clarifying about the LMS and API.

No problem. SCORM was developed to be a universal LMS courseware
format. If a LMS has a custom API for courseware, then it's not SCORM.

> (WebHelp isn't an option for us anymore, because the version we had doesn't 
> work with anything higher than FM7.2; so when we chose TCS2, we did so with 
> the understanding that WebHelp would be abandoned. The transition happened 
> between product line life cycles, so it's a clean break.)

I think you are thinking of Webworks Help. WebHelp is a RoboHelp
format. But that's aside from the issue. Using this would require
hefty scripting changes to the nuts and bolts that make the Help work,
given the file structure would have to conform to the SCORM model.

> From an overall view of the library, if the content is sourced in FM at the 
> chapter-per-file level, using text insets, variables, and conditional text 
> for single-sourcing, is this going to cause problems vis-a-vis going through 
> RH to get to SCO-conformant HTML? Would we be able to use frames in the HTML 
> help and have the script referenced in the metadata of the mainframe? or is 
> that something that has to be in the actual code of every single HTML file in 
> the project?

As long as every HTML file contains the javascript reference and each
lesson (SCO) has a unique frameset, you're fine. Again, the more
complex you want your output to be, the more complex the need to
customize your Help project.

I did forget to mention that you also need to define the end page for
each SCO, like you do for the first page of each SCO. I've never used
framesets when creating SCORM courses, so I'm not sure how that would
exactly work, unless you have a progression like (pseudocode):


   
   
   


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SCORM

[Rene Stephenson]

Bill,

I think I should be setting it up from the Blank template so that I can use the 
HTML Help output from RH...and skip the idea of framesets and RH WebHelp for 
now. If I can get it working in simplified form, I can always add complexity 
later as part of continuous improvement processes. ;-)

When you say defining the first and end pages, could that be as 
straight-forward as the file name for the end page being called end_page.html? 
Or does it have to be in the text, the metadata, or pseudocode?


Rene



- Original Message 
From: Bill Swallow 


As long as every HTML file contains the javascript reference and each
lesson (SCO) has a unique frameset, you're fine. Again, the more
complex you want your output to be, the more complex the need to
customize your Help project.

I did forget to mention that you also need to define the end page for
each SCO, like you do for the first page of each SCO. I've never used
framesets when creating SCORM courses, so I'm not sure how that would
exactly work, unless you have a progression like (pseudocode):


   
   
   


-- 

Slightly OT: optimal PC for TCS2 / CS3 use

[Rene Stephenson]

Hi All,

We have PCs that at first blush look quite adequate to meet the system 
requirements spec'd by Adobe for TCS2: P4 (single core) 3.2GHz w/ 3GB RAM 
running WinXP. However...in reality, dealing with TCS2 and docs that are 
hundreds of pages long and chock full of graphics, there is significant wait 
time even just to page-down through the file, generate the book, make a PDF, 
etc... and there are frequent crashes and lock-ups. I think the minimal specs 
usually are intended for the most basic ability to run the given program at 
all. However, I don't find anywhere any recommendations for optimal 
performance. Does anyone have any...?


Rene 

[Free Framers] RE: Change bars for multiple revisions

[Jeff Coatsworth]

You just have to kill off the original sender's e-mail & slap on the framers at 
lists.frameusers.com address (at least that's whet I do) 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:47 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: [Free Framers] RE: Change bars for multiple revisions


Thanks, this gives my brain some directions to think in.

And yes, I fully agree on the message headers!  I always wind up accidentally 
replying only to the sender.

Seonaid

Seonaid Welch | Narrative Writer
seonaid.welch at aecinc.com
AEC | When Excellence is Essential
P: 503.668.0656 x225




-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:26 PM
To: Seonaid Welch
Cc: framers at omsys.com
Subject: RE: [Free Framers] RE: Change bars for multiple revisions

I wrote:  

> But you can find by character format -- specifying Change Bar in the 
> Find Character Format dialog (everything else set to As Is) -- and 
> change to a different character format (such as Change Bar plus 
> Underline, or Blue, or ...), or change by pasting to a named character 
> tag (say, Rev. A) copied to the clipboard.
 

Finding by character format led my brain down the character format/tag path for 
the change, but you could use the same basic process (change by
pasting) to apply a condition to the Rev. A revisions. In fact, that might be 
preferable if you need to track multiple rounds of revisions.
You can define and apply multiple conditions, overlap them, and they're all 
still there. Can't do that with character tags, and the number of format 
changes available is pretty limited. 

BTW, does anyone else find this list's message addressing annoying? I'm 
responding to my own message, which, according to TO and FROM headers was sent 
by me to me. Thus Reply All addresses my response to me, and neither Seonaid 
nor the list is an addressee -- both have to be added manually. 

Annoying, I tell you, annoying. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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303-223-5111
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[Free Framers] RE: Change bars for multiple revisions

[Combs, Richard]

But the thread was on the Free Framers list (framers at omsys.com), not
FrameUsers (framers at lists.frameusers.com) -- as is the addressing
annoyance. 

On FrameUsers, Reply All addresses both the sender to whom you're
replying and the list, while Reply addresses only the former. On Free
Framers, Reply and Reply All do exactly the same thing, which strikes me
as counter-intuitive and unhelpful. Like Seonaid, I've more than once
replied just to the sender by accident. This makes the list archives
less useful because many of the questions to the list aren't answered on
the list. 

Richard 

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:55 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: [Free Framers] RE: Change bars for multiple revisions
> 
> You just have to kill off the original sender's e-mail & slap on the
> framers at lists.frameusers.com address (at least that's whet I do)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Seonaid Welch [mailto:seonaid.welch at aecinc.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:47 PM
> To: Jeff Coatsworth
> Subject: [Free Framers] RE: Change bars for multiple revisions
> 
> 
> Thanks, this gives my brain some directions to think in.
> 
> And yes, I fully agree on the message headers!  I always wind up
> accidentally replying only to the sender.
> 
> Seonaid
> 
> Seonaid Welch | Narrative Writer
> seonaid.welch at aecinc.com
> AEC | When Excellence is Essential
> P: 503.668.0656 x225
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.combs at Polycom.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:26 PM
> To: Seonaid Welch
> Cc: framers at omsys.com
> Subject: RE: [Free Framers] RE: Change bars for multiple revisions
> 
> I wrote:
> 
> > But you can find by character format -- specifying Change Bar in the
> > Find Character Format dialog (everything else set to As Is) -- and
> > change to a different character format (such as Change Bar plus
> > Underline, or Blue, or ...), or change by pasting to a named
character
> > tag (say, Rev. A) copied to the clipboard.
> 
> 
> Finding by character format led my brain down the character format/tag
path
> for the change, but you could use the same basic process (change by
> pasting) to apply a condition to the Rev. A revisions. In fact, that
might
> be preferable if you need to track multiple rounds of revisions.
> You can define and apply multiple conditions, overlap them, and
they're all
> still there. Can't do that with character tags, and the number of
format
> changes available is pretty limited.
> 
> BTW, does anyone else find this list's message addressing annoying?
I'm
> responding to my own message, which, according to TO and FROM headers
was
> sent by me to me. Thus Reply All addresses my response to me, and
neither
> Seonaid nor the list is an addressee -- both have to be added
manually.
> 
> Annoying, I tell you, annoying.
> 
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-777-0436
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Slightly OT: optimal PC for TCS2 / CS3 use

[qui...@airmail.net]

Optimal will be a Core-duo 2.66MHz or 3 and above.
If you are running Win 7 which you should rather than Vista, try to go 
for 64-bit. 32-bit will work fine. Max your RAM 4 GB would be good, 
though with 64-bit you could actually use more. And a humongous hard 
drive. Look for 1 TB as a good working arrangement.

Scott


On 3/4/10 2:23 PM, Rene Stephenson wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We have PCs that at first blush look quite adequate to meet the system 
> requirements spec'd by Adobe for TCS2: P4 (single core) 3.2GHz w/ 3GB RAM 
> running WinXP. However...in reality, dealing with TCS2 and docs that are 
> hundreds of pages long and chock full of graphics, there is significant wait 
> time even just to page-down through the file, generate the book, make a PDF, 
> etc... and there are frequent crashes and lock-ups. I think the minimal specs 
> usually are intended for the most basic ability to run the given program at 
> all. However, I don't find anywhere any recommendations for optimal 
> performance. Does anyone have any...?
>
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> Rene
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SCORM

[Bill Swallow]

> I think I should be setting it up from the Blank template so that I can use 
> the HTML Help output from RH...and skip the idea of framesets and RH WebHelp 
> for now. If I can get it working in simplified form, I can always add 
> complexity later as part of continuous improvement processes. ;-)

MS HTML Help? CHM? That won't work for SCORM. You'll need HTML.

> When you say defining the first and end pages, could that be as 
> straight-forward as the file name for the end page being called 
> end_page.html? Or does it have to be in the text, the metadata, or pseudocode?

Per step 4 
you need to determine which pages will be your first and last. Some
good examples of what the markup looks like:

http://forio.com/broadcast/docs/advanced_features/scorm.htm

A decent free tutorial:

http://www.scormcourse.com/scorm_2004_beginner/index.htm

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