Re: FrmakeMaker 8 to PDF

[Steve Johnson]

It will be easy to Hypertext markers, try:

openlink filename:linkname
gotolink filename:firstpage

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:58 AM, P K tec...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 In my current project, I need to design a page in Framemaker, which when I 
 open in Acrobat PDF version, shows links to all the user guides. Consider 
 that I have three user guides, which are contained in three separte books. In 
 other words, I have three book files - Book A, Book B, and Book C. In 
 Framemaker, I want to create a FM file in which I can add links to each of 
 the book files. All the book files are contained in a separate folder on my 
 machine.  The idea is that the user should be able to able to open any user 
 guide from a single page - all the user would have to do is click on a link 
 in the PDF.

 Kindly let me know  how can I do the above.

 Thanks!

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OT: capturing graphical user interfaces on LCD panels

[Christopher Seal]

When writing user guides for PC or Mac software applications I can capture 
screen shots with no problem.

 

I have to write user guides for stand-alone terminals that use a pair of 
Samsung 4.8-in LCD 1024x600 panels p/n LMS480JC01 for their MMI.

 

Any suggestions on how to capture the user interface?

 

Some thoughts:

Photography? cannot because cameras are forbidden where I work.

Redraw in Visio? Lots of screens, would take a long time.

Add-on device, like a box with an input connector that can be clipped on to the 
LCD connector, a USB output to a computer, and a software application. I've 
done lots of searching and haven't found such as beast.
  
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Re: OT: capturing graphical user interfaces on LCD panels

[Bill Swallow]

All of these systems have emulators. Talk to your development team.
They can't proof their work without them.

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Christopher Seal cs...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 I have to write user guides for stand-alone terminals that use a pair of 
 Samsung 4.8-in LCD 1024x600 panels p/n LMS480JC01 for their MMI.
 Any suggestions on how to capture the user interface?

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Re: OT: capturing graphical user interfaces on LCD panels

[rinch]

Christopher,

I faced a similar problem, and I asked our engineering development team to 
create a utility that outputs simple bitmap files of the screens. This 
task did not seem to be too difficult for them, and it sure made my life 
easier. It has actually became handy for several groups within my company, 
including Field Service and Customer Service.

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Re: FrameMaker 3 files

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Doug...

Got your files, but unfortunately I've been unable to open them in FM4. 
When I try I'm told that they are damaged. I tried using a heroic open, 
but that doesn't seem to have existed in FM4 (when I use it I end up 
with a H in the current document, which indicates that the Esc o H key 
sequence isn't defined).


I suppose that it *is* possible that these files are in fact corrupt. 
When I open them in a text editor, they have the basic chunks of stuff 
that you'd expect, but there could be some extra binary bits at the end 
that may be causing the problem. FM4 doesn't have a SaveAs FM3 option 
so I can't compare a good file against yours. You can open them in a 
text editor and pick out some of the words in plain text, but that's 
probably not terribly useful.


Perhaps someone else actually has a copy of FM3 .. or if you're lucky 
you could find one for sale on eBay.


Sorry I wasn't able to help!

...scott

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Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
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subscr...@... wrote:

Just for those who might someday have to tread this path:

I tried opening the v3 files in FM5.1.1, and no joy. That far back, the heroic 
open doesn't even exist.
I tried opening the v3 files in FM5.5.6, and the heroic open fails just as it 
does for FM7.1.

Since Scott Prentice of Leximation has very decently offered to see if FM4 will 
do the job, I still have hope. (Also glad I bought his BookVars plugin.)

  
  

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Re: FrameMaker 3 files

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Scott,

I really appreciate that you tried! I've been able to resurrect some of the 
text using text editors, but the ideal scenario would have recovered the 
diagrams as well.

My heartfelt thanks,
Doug


- Original Message -
From: Scott Prentice
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FrameMaker 3 files

Hi Doug...

Got your files, but unfortunately I've been unable to open them in FM4.
When I try I'm told that they are damaged. I tried using a heroic open,
but that doesn't seem to have existed in FM4 (when I use it I end up
with a H in the current document, which indicates that the Esc o H key
sequence isn't defined).

I suppose that it *is* possible that these files are in fact corrupt.
When I open them in a text editor, they have the basic chunks of stuff
that you'd expect, but there could be some extra binary bits at the end
that may be causing the problem. FM4 doesn't have a SaveAs FM3 option
so I can't compare a good file against yours. You can open them in a
text editor and pick out some of the words in plain text, but that's
probably not terribly useful.

Perhaps someone else actually has a copy of FM3 .. or if you're lucky
you could find one for sale on eBay.

Sorry I wasn't able to help!

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892

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Re: Migrating from RoboHelp to WebWorks

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I would recommend posting this on the WebWorks user forum:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwp-users

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Hemalatha hema_bh...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 We use Frame 7.1, Acrobat 7.0 and WebWorks Publisher 2003 for creating print 
 documents and online help.

 We now have a legacy online help file that was created using RoboHelp 
 2002. So we are looking at ways to migrate from RoboHelp 2002 to WebWorks 
 Publisher 2003. Can anyone suggest the best way for this conversion?

 Thanks in advance.

 Regards,
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MIF File Import

[KChebe Grace]

I am currently using a MIF file to make changes to a book.  I want the file to 
change some of my paragraph styles to small font and the color to white.  At a 
later point I want to have the mif file change some of my variable settings.  
This would allow me to make one set of files work for multiple locations by 
importing a different mif file.  

The problem that I have is that when I import the mif file, which now only 
contains the code to change paragraph styles is overwriting the existing 
variables in the book.  

It is my understanding that I should be able to keep the mif file as small as 
possible and use it to only have code to change the things that I want to 
change without having to account for parameters that are not being changed.  

Can someone provide some assistance as to why this mif file is behaving this 
way?
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Re: FrameMaker 3 files

[Frank Stearns]

On Thu, 6 May 2010, subscr...@cuff.ca wrote:


Scott,

I really appreciate that you tried! I've been able to resurrect some 
of the text using text editors, but the ideal scenario would have 
recovered the diagrams as well.


I came late to the conversation, but sorry to say your files are 
probably corrupt.


I recall opening FM3 files with FM5.5, and I'm pretty sure those opens 
even worked with FM7. (Only had a second to look on our main system 
here just now; found some 16 year old FM4 files that open fine in 7.2; 
I know we have FM2.1 and FM3 files out on optical media somewhere but 
did not enough time to go look at the moment).


Frame has historically been fairly good about cleanly opening 
old version files with newer version FM, even skipping several 
generations, so that probably wasn't an issue in your case.


The side-topic question I have (given that we're in the middle of 
trying find the best passive solution for long-term *reliable* 
storage of data) is how were these files stored? Optical media? (If 
so, what flavor?) Harddrives? Tape? (What flavor?)


Did you have any initial difficulty copying those files from that 
original media?


Thanks for any data points; that's mainly what we're collecting at the 
moment.


Sorry to hear about the data loss. We all dread that!


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Re: FrameMaker 3 files

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 06 May 2010 12:05:53 -0700, Scott Prentice 
s...@leximation.com wrote:

Got your files, but unfortunately I've been unable 
to open them in FM4. 

One possibility I recall.  Frame binary files 
must end at a 1K boundary.  When they were sent
via email, they often got a CR/LF added to the
end, and then Frame would no longer touch them.

We wrote a little utility that trimmed off anything
after the last 1K boundary that fixed this.  So if
the file was 2050 bytes, it truncated it to 2048.

If the exact byte sizes are not a multiple of 1024,
let me know and I'll see if I can find that utility
someplace.  Or you could do it with a binary editor.

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re: FrameMaker 3 files

[Shlomo Perets]

I was able to open FM3 files (from 1992...) in FM9, without any 
problems/messages, so it may indeed (unfortunately) indicate that something 
is wrong with the files themselves.


Here is a sample FM3 file, in case you want to try opening it in your system:
http://www.microtype.com/resources/FM3-RELNOTES.zip


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Re: MIF File Import

[Steve Johnson]

You're going to have to script it. A MIF file is a text representation
of a Frame file.

Instead of importing the MIF file you'll probably need to write a
script that will remove the formatting in the MIF file with your
content and replace the formatting as desired. Someone can probably
point you to a utility that will do this.

I've started to do something similar in FrameScript, not too easy.

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:40 PM, KChebe Grace kgrace4...@aol.com wrote:
 I am currently using a MIF file to make changes to a book.  I want the file 
 to change some of my paragraph styles to small font and the color to white.  
 At a later point I want to have the mif file change some of my variable 
 settings.  This would allow me to make one set of files work for multiple 
 locations by importing a different mif file.

 The problem that I have is that when I import the mif file, which now only 
 contains the code to change paragraph styles is overwriting the existing 
 variables in the book.

 It is my understanding that I should be able to keep the mif file as small as 
 possible and use it to only have code to change the things that I want to 
 change without having to account for parameters that are not being changed.

 Can someone provide some assistance as to why this mif file is behaving this 
 way?
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Re: MIF File Import

[Mike]

I have had the same problem in the past. From my experience, saving a MIF
file from within Frame can be the culprit. In my case, I created the MIF
files in an ASCII editor and included only those items that I wanted to
import. I opened the MIF text file in Frame and imported. Everything worked
well. However, if I saved the MIF file from within Frame, Frame
automatically added a lot of default system variables to the saved MIF
file. My specific problem involved overwriting running headers and footers
with the internal values in Frame.

My solution: I create the MIF file in an ASCII editor and open it with
Frame. I then perform the import. Here is the key (at least for me): close
the MIF file WITHOUT saving it. As long as I open the file, use it, then
close it without saving, everything works as I want.

Hopefully, it will help you.

Mike



On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:40 PM, KChebe Grace kgrace4...@aol.com wrote:

 I am currently using a MIF file to make changes to a book.  I want the file
 to change some of my paragraph styles to small font and the color to white.
  At a later point I want to have the mif file change some of my variable
 settings.  This would allow me to make one set of files work for multiple
 locations by importing a different mif file.

 The problem that I have is that when I import the mif file, which now only
 contains the code to change paragraph styles is overwriting the existing
 variables in the book.

 It is my understanding that I should be able to keep the mif file as small
 as possible and use it to only have code to change the things that I want to
 change without having to account for parameters that are not being changed.

 Can someone provide some assistance as to why this mif file is behaving
 this way?
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FrmakeMaker 8 to PDF

[Steve Johnson]

It will be easy to Hypertext markers, try:

openlink filename:linkname
gotolink filename:firstpage

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:58 AM, P K  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In my current project, I need to design a page in Framemaker, which when I 
> open in Acrobat PDF version, shows links to all the user guides. Consider 
> that I have three user guides, which are contained in three separte books. In 
> other words, I have three book files - Book A, Book B, and Book C. In 
> Framemaker, I want to create a FM file in which I can add links to each of 
> the book files. All the book files are contained in a separate folder on my 
> machine.? The idea is that the user should be able to able to open any user 
> guide from a single?page - all the user would have to do is click on a link 
> in the PDF.
>
> Kindly let me know? how can I do the above.
>
> Thanks!
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FrameMaker 3 files

[subscr...@cuff.ca]

Just for those who might someday have to tread this path:

I tried opening the v3 files in FM5.1.1, and no joy. That far back, the "heroic 
open" doesn't even exist.
I tried opening the v3 files in FM5.5.6, and the "heroic open" fails just as it 
does for FM7.1.

Since Scott Prentice of Leximation has very decently offered to see if FM4 will 
do the job, I still have hope. (Also glad I bought his BookVars plugin.)

OT: capturing graphical user interfaces on LCD panels

[Christopher Seal]

When writing user guides for PC or Mac software applications I can capture 
screen shots with no problem.



I have to write user guides for stand-alone terminals that use a pair of 
Samsung 4.8-in LCD 1024x600 panels p/n LMS480JC01 for their MMI.



Any suggestions on how to capture the user interface?



Some thoughts:

Photography? cannot because cameras are forbidden where I work.

Redraw in Visio? Lots of screens, would take a long time.

Add-on device, like a box with an input connector that can be clipped on to the 
LCD connector, a USB output to a computer, and a software application. I've 
done lots of searching and haven't found such as beast.

OT: capturing graphical user interfaces on LCD panels

[Bill Swallow]

All of these systems have emulators. Talk to your development team.
They can't proof their work without them.

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Christopher Seal  wrote:
> I have to write user guides for stand-alone terminals that use a pair of 
> Samsung 4.8-in LCD 1024x600 panels p/n LMS480JC01 for their MMI.
> Any suggestions on how to capture the user interface?

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Available for contract and full time opportunities.

OT: capturing graphical user interfaces on LCD panels

[ri...@inficon.com]

Christopher,

I faced a similar problem, and I asked our engineering development team to 
create a utility that outputs simple bitmap files of the screens. This 
task did not seem to be too difficult for them, and it sure made my life 
easier. It has actually became handy for several groups within my company, 
including Field Service and Customer Service.

Richard

FrameMaker 3 files

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Doug...

Got your files, but unfortunately I've been unable to open them in FM4. 
When I try I'm told that they are damaged. I tried using a heroic open, 
but that doesn't seem to have existed in FM4 (when I use it I end up 
with a "H" in the current document, which indicates that the Esc o H key 
sequence isn't defined).

I suppose that it *is* possible that these files are in fact corrupt. 
When I open them in a text editor, they have the basic chunks of stuff 
that you'd expect, but there could be some extra binary bits at the end 
that may be causing the problem. FM4 doesn't have a "SaveAs FM3" option 
so I can't compare a "good" file against yours. You can open them in a 
text editor and pick out some of the words in plain text, but that's 
probably not terribly useful.

Perhaps someone else actually has a copy of FM3 .. or if you're lucky 
you could find one for sale on eBay.

Sorry I wasn't able to help!

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892


subscribe at ... wrote:
> Just for those who might someday have to tread this path:
>
> I tried opening the v3 files in FM5.1.1, and no joy. That far back, the 
> "heroic open" doesn't even exist.
> I tried opening the v3 files in FM5.5.6, and the "heroic open" fails just as 
> it does for FM7.1.
>
> Since Scott Prentice of Leximation has very decently offered to see if FM4 
> will do the job, I still have hope. (Also glad I bought his BookVars plugin.)
>
>   
>   

FrameMaker 3 files

[subscr...@cuff.ca]

Scott,

I really appreciate that you tried! I've been able to resurrect some of the 
text using text editors, but the ideal scenario would have recovered the 
diagrams as well.

My heartfelt thanks,
Doug


- Original Message -
From: Scott Prentice
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FrameMaker 3 files

Hi Doug...

Got your files, but unfortunately I've been unable to open them in FM4. 
When I try I'm told that they are damaged. I tried using a heroic open, 
but that doesn't seem to have existed in FM4 (when I use it I end up 
with a "H" in the current document, which indicates that the Esc o H key 
sequence isn't defined).

I suppose that it *is* possible that these files are in fact corrupt. 
When I open them in a text editor, they have the basic chunks of stuff 
that you'd expect, but there could be some extra binary bits at the end 
that may be causing the problem. FM4 doesn't have a "SaveAs FM3" option 
so I can't compare a "good" file against yours. You can open them in a 
text editor and pick out some of the words in plain text, but that's 
probably not terribly useful.

Perhaps someone else actually has a copy of FM3 .. or if you're lucky 
you could find one for sale on eBay.

Sorry I wasn't able to help!

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892

Migrating from RoboHelp to WebWorks

[Steve Johnson]

I would recommend posting this on the WebWorks user forum:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwp-users

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Hemalatha  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We use Frame 7.1, Acrobat 7.0?and WebWorks Publisher 2003 for creating print 
> documents?and online help.
>
> We now have?a legacy online help file that was created using RoboHelp 
> 2002.?So we are looking at?ways to?migrate from RoboHelp?2002 to WebWorks 
> Publisher 2003. Can anyone suggest the best way for this conversion?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Hema Bhanu
>
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MIF File Import

[KChebe Grace]

I am currently using a MIF file to make changes to a book.  I want the file to 
change some of my paragraph styles to small font and the color to white.  At a 
later point I want to have the mif file change some of my variable settings.  
This would allow me to make one set of files work for multiple locations by 
importing a different mif file.  

The problem that I have is that when I import the mif file, which now only 
contains the code to change paragraph styles is overwriting the existing 
variables in the book.  

It is my understanding that I should be able to keep the mif file as small as 
possible and use it to only have code to change the things that I want to 
change without having to account for parameters that are not being changed.  

Can someone provide some assistance as to why this mif file is behaving this 
way?

FrameMaker 3 files

[Frank Stearns]

On Thu, 6 May 2010, subscribe at cuff.ca wrote:

> Scott,
>
> I really appreciate that you tried! I've been able to resurrect some 
> of the text using text editors, but the ideal scenario would have 
> recovered the diagrams as well.

I came late to the conversation, but sorry to say your files are 
probably corrupt.

I recall opening FM3 files with FM5.5, and I'm pretty sure those opens 
even worked with FM7. (Only had a second to look on our main system 
here just now; found some 16 year old FM4 files that open fine in 7.2; 
I know we have FM2.1 and FM3 files out on optical media somewhere but 
did not enough time to go look at the moment).

Frame has historically been fairly good about cleanly opening 
old version files with newer version FM, even skipping several 
generations, so that probably wasn't an issue in your case.

The side-topic question I have (given that we're in the middle of 
trying find the best "passive" solution for long-term *reliable* 
storage of data) is how were these files stored? Optical media? (If 
so, what flavor?) Harddrives? Tape? (What flavor?)

Did you have any initial difficulty copying those files from that 
original media?

Thanks for any data points; that's mainly what we're collecting at the 
moment.

Sorry to hear about the data loss. We all dread that!


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FrameMaker 3 files

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 06 May 2010 12:05:53 -0700, Scott Prentice 
 wrote:

>Got your files, but unfortunately I've been unable 
>to open them in FM4. 

One possibility I recall.  Frame binary files 
must end at a 1K boundary.  When they were sent
via email, they often got a CR/LF added to the
end, and then Frame would no longer touch them.

We wrote a little utility that trimmed off anything
after the last 1K boundary that fixed this.  So if
the file was 2050 bytes, it truncated it to 2048.

If the exact byte sizes are not a multiple of 1024,
let me know and I'll see if I can find that utility
someplace.  Or you could do it with a binary editor.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

MIF File Import

[Steve Johnson]

You're going to have to script it. A MIF file is a text representation
of a Frame file.

Instead of importing the MIF file you'll probably need to write a
script that will remove the formatting in the MIF file with your
content and replace the formatting as desired. Someone can probably
point you to a utility that will do this.

I've started to do something similar in FrameScript, not too easy.

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:40 PM, KChebe Grace  wrote:
> I am currently using a MIF file to make changes to a book. ?I want the file 
> to change some of my paragraph styles to small font and the color to white. 
> ?At a later point I want to have the mif file change some of my variable 
> settings. ?This would allow me to make one set of files work for multiple 
> locations by importing a different mif file.
>
> The problem that I have is that when I import the mif file, which now only 
> contains the code to change paragraph styles is overwriting the existing 
> variables in the book.
>
> It is my understanding that I should be able to keep the mif file as small as 
> possible and use it to only have code to change the things that I want to 
> change without having to account for parameters that are not being changed.
>
> Can someone provide some assistance as to why this mif file is behaving this 
> way?
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MIF File Import

[Mike]

I have had the same problem in the past. From my experience, saving a MIF
file from within Frame can be the culprit. In my case, I created the MIF
files in an ASCII editor and included only those items that I wanted to
import. I opened the MIF text file in Frame and imported. Everything worked
well. However, if I saved the MIF file from within Frame, Frame
automatically added a lot of default "system" variables to the saved MIF
file. My specific problem involved overwriting running headers and footers
with the internal values in Frame.

My solution: I create the MIF file in an ASCII editor and open it with
Frame. I then perform the import. Here is the key (at least for me): close
the MIF file WITHOUT saving it. As long as I open the file, use it, then
close it without saving, everything works as I want.

Hopefully, it will help you.

Mike



On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:40 PM, KChebe Grace  wrote:

> I am currently using a MIF file to make changes to a book.  I want the file
> to change some of my paragraph styles to small font and the color to white.
>  At a later point I want to have the mif file change some of my variable
> settings.  This would allow me to make one set of files work for multiple
> locations by importing a different mif file.
>
> The problem that I have is that when I import the mif file, which now only
> contains the code to change paragraph styles is overwriting the existing
> variables in the book.
>
> It is my understanding that I should be able to keep the mif file as small
> as possible and use it to only have code to change the things that I want to
> change without having to account for parameters that are not being changed.
>
> Can someone provide some assistance as to why this mif file is behaving
> this way?
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