date:20121019

Well, no, worked except for one problem: the links that work fine when
I Ctrl-Alt-clickare dead in the RoboHelp Web Help output. In FM the
markers look like this:

openObjectId AppendixC.fm:2 1544573

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
 I created a second book-level TOC, modified the TOC definition on the
 reference pages to delete the page numbers, updated, copied, and
 pasted. Worked fine.
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FM openObjectId markers RoboHelp

All source in FM10, using RH9 to generate WebHelp.

Hyperlinks (openObjectId Hypertext markers) in a generated list of
paragraphs (.lop file) do not get converted to links in RoboHelp,
though they're fine in PDF and within FM. Anybody encountered this
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Re: FM openObjectId markers RoboHelp

2012-10-19 Thread Matt Sullivan

Because of the way RH converts TOC and IX into other structures I don't expect 
you'll have luck with the generated lists and ix's turning into files with live 
links…I expect it has to do with the fundamental difference in generating the 
documents themselves.

You have a great idea for additional functionality, though, and I suggest you 
submit that as a request to www.adobe.com/go/wish. I'll be doing this, and 
asking others to do so via social media.

Of course, if anyone can get this to work, please let us all know!!

-Matt

On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:51 AM, Jeff Coatsworth 
jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com wrote:

 Never tried using them to see what the effect is in RH - are you linking or 
 importing? Whatever way you're doing now, try the other as a test to see if 
 there's any impact on the result. 
 
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 All source in FM10, using RH9 to generate WebHelp.
 
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Re: FM openObjectId markers RoboHelp

2012-10-19 Thread Writer

Doesn't RH have a mini-TOC option?

Nadine


Because of the way RH converts TOC and IX into other structures I don't expect 
you'll have luck with the generated lists and ix's turning into files with 
live links…I expect it has to do with the fundamental difference in generating 
the documents themselves.

You have a great idea for additional functionality, though, and I suggest you 
submit that as a request to www.adobe.com/go/wish. I'll be doing this, and 
asking others to do so via social media.

Of course, if anyone can get this to work, please let us all know!!

-Matt
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RE: FM openObjectId markers RoboHelp

 It does, but I think it's more like a bookmark or cross-ref than a hyperlink 
scenario.

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Doesn't RH have a mini-TOC option?

Nadine

Because of the way RH converts TOC and IX into other structures I don't expect 
you'll have luck with the generated lists and ix's turning into files with 
live links...I expect it has to do with the fundamental difference in 
generating the documents themselves.

You have a great idea for additional functionality, though, and I suggest you 
submit that as a request to www.adobe.com/go/wish. I'll be doing this, and 
asking others to do so via social media.

Of course, if anyone can get this to work, please let us all know!!

-Matt
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Re: FM10 unstructured to knowledgebase

2012-10-19 Thread Chris Despopoulos

JOHN SAYS:
We
 are going to move to knowledgebase-centered doc support for our 
products. An attempt at a MindTouch transition met with frustration and 
failure. SalesForce looks no more promising. 
Does anyone have experience with authoring in FM and publishing to a good 
knowledgebase? 
If I do not find a solution, we are likely to abandon FM even though we have no 
better alternative.
john


If your KB can import data, show the the data format and I can get Maker to 
produce it.  So can any other plugin developer, or anybody who knows how to use 
scripts to munge the MIF.  Further, since you're on Maker 10, this can be 
implemented in ExtendScript, so you could do it, or somebody else could do it 
and then you could modify it as necessary.

cud
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Re: how to create an embedded mini-TOC or similar?

On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:30:05 -0700, Robert Lauriston 
rob...@lauriston.com wrote:

Well, no, worked except for one problem: the links that work fine when
I Ctrl-Alt-clickare dead in the RoboHelp Web Help output. In FM the
markers look like this:

openObjectId AppendixC.fm:2 1544573

Mif2Go handles those links correctly.  Like the ones
in the generated IX, they link to specific paragraph
ObjectIDs, all of which Mif2Go preserves when:

[HTMLOptions]
ObjectIDs=All

Same for Word output, when:

[WordOptions]
ObjectIDs=All

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
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Re: FM openObjectId markers RoboHelp

On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:20:44 -0700 (PDT), Writer 
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Doesn't RH have a mini-TOC option?

Mif2Go does... has had that for years.  See
User's Guide par. 20.3, Including local TOCs.

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Re: FM10 unstructured to knowledgebase

Is this a one-time migration or do you want to continue authoring in FrameMaker?

If you want to continue authoring in FrameMaker, what features do you
need in the knowledgebase?

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:20 PM, John Sgammato jsgamm...@imprivata.com wrote:
 We are going to move to knowledgebase-centered doc support for our products. 
 An attempt at a MindTouch transition met with frustration and failure. 
 SalesForce looks no more promising.
 Does anyone have experience with authoring in FM and publishing to a good 
 knowledgebase?
 If I do not find a solution, we are likely to abandon FM even though we have 
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AutoHotKey with FM10

Anyone using this with FM10? I find references to FM on their user
forum but mostly not recent.
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Re: FM10 unstructured to knowledgebase

That's an open-ended development project and can be quite expensive.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Chris Despopoulos
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 If your KB can import data, show the the data format and I can get Maker to
 produce it.  So can any other plugin developer, or anybody who knows how to
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Re: FM openObjectId markers RoboHelp

That's no help to me, since I can't make MIF2Go emulate RoboHelp's
stupid WebHelp directory structure so the hard-coded CSH URLs (which
I'm stuck with indefinitely) would work.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Jeremy H. Griffith jer...@omsys.com wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:20:44 -0700 (PDT), Writer
 generic...@yahoo.ca wrote:

Doesn't RH have a mini-TOC option?

 Mif2Go does... has had that for years.
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Re: how to create an embedded mini-TOC or similar?

I still haven't found a workable solution for this other than perhaps
spending $150 on FrameScript and $40 on Rick Quattro's ChapterTOC,
which would be hard to justify since I could do it manually in a very
unpleasant hour or so.
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cross-reference dialog history question

FM10s cross-reference dialog reverts to the current document and the
paragraph tag in the list after inserting an x-ref to a heading in
another document.

Did FM always do that? I don't inserting a bunch of x-refs being that painful.
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PDF SharePoint Question

2012-10-19 Thread Anderson, Ben

Framers,

I've got a PDF question that I hope someone can help me with.

I have a Frame 10 book that contains about 50 or so chapters/files including a 
TOC and an Index.  I distill the book, to individual PDFs, using Acrobat 
Distiller X (part of TCS 3).

When I open either the TOC or Index PDF on my shared drive, where all of the 
source Frame files and PDFs reside (same folder), all of the links to headings, 
subheadings, etc. work...meaning, if I click on TOC entry  Blah Blah--3.34  
I'm taken to that very heading on page 34 of chapter 3.

Now, when I load all of the PDFs to a folder on my SharePoint site, open the 
TOC PDF, and click the Blah Blah-3.34 entry, it opens the correct PDF, but 
does NOT take me to the correct page...just to page one of Chapter 3.

The same thing happens with my Index entries.  They work fine on the shared 
drive.  But, as soon as I load the PDFs to SharePoint (2010 by the way), links 
within a chapter will only take me to the first page of that particular 
chapter, not to the exact page where the index tag is.

Anyone have an ideas?

Thanks!!
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Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

2012-10-19 Thread Megha Chaitanya

Hi Deanna,

One need not change the FrameMaker files manually, but one can import the 
comments to FrameMaker file using File->Import->PDF Comments. PDF comments will 
come as track text edits in the FrameMaker document. One can use Track Text 
Edit toolbar to go through each comment and take action of accept/reject on 
them. Pls. refer to this blog 
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2011/05/handling-pdf-review-comments-in-framemaker.html
 which talks in detail about the FrameMaker review workflow.

Acrobat Reader XI supports full set of commeting tools. So, if the reviewers 
have Acrobat Reader XI, you don't need Acrobat professional to enable commeting 
in PDF. However, you need Acrobat professional to enable commenting ,if 
reviewers are using Acrobat Reader X or below.

Regards,
Megha
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Subject: Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

Hi,

We are migrating from FrameMaker 7.2 to FrameMaker 11. In our current workflow, 
we create a PDF file and use Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional to enable 
commenting in it so that reviewers who don't have FrameMaker can electronically 
review and comment on our FrameMaker documents. We then merge the electronic 
comments into the PDF file and manually change the FrameMaker files accordingly.

For FrameMaker 11, Adobe advertises, "Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip 
reviews." I've searched, but I can't find how these types of reviews are 
implemented. Can you briefly explain how this feature works? Mainly I want to 
know if we need to purchase Adobe Acrobat Professional X to retain our ability 
to solicit electronic reviews from reviewers who don't have FrameMaker or if 
the need for Acrobat Professional is eliminated by this feature in FrameMaker 
11.

Thanks,

Deanna.
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2012-10-19 Thread John Sgammato

We are going to move to knowledgebase-centered doc support for our products. An 
attempt at a MindTouch transition met with frustration and failure. SalesForce 
looks no more promising. 
Does anyone have experience with authoring in FM and publishing to a good 
knowledgebase? 
If I do not find a solution, we are likely to abandon FM even though we have no 
better alternative.
john

Frame crashes when use Accept All changes

2012-10-19 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried

Hi Beth,

Do you apply ?Accept All? to all files in the book?
Then I would try to ?Accept All? only to single files.
I would also MIF wash all files. This often removes
conflicts in the data.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Frame crashes when use Accept All changes

HI,

Writing in for another person. She's using Frame 10 on xp.

Her chapters are filled with tables and every time she tries to "Accept All 
Changes" Frame crashes.

She is a novice in Frame and I am trying to help her out. I think that the 
tables might be the problem. So she is going in one correction at a time to 
accept the change. This isn't going so well since she's dealing with a document 
that has over 2000 pages combined in the multiple chapters.

If we save the file as mif, I don't know what to look for to resolve the 
problem. Is this a memory problem? This used to be a really big document in 
Word.

TIA
Beth



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how to create an embedded mini-TOC or similar?

2012-10-19 Thread Harpreet Singh Seehra

You can convert the context-sensitive Help markers that you insert in your 
FrameMaker documents and reuse them as map IDs. You specify the 
context-sensitive Help marker in the Project Settings dialog box before linking 
FrameMaker documents. You can also specify this setting when you import 
FrameMaker documents. You can work with context-sensitive Help markers in 
FrameMaker documents in two ways:

Automatic conversion of map IDs from FrameMaker documents
You apply context-sensitive Help markers in your FrameMaker documents, and 
specify the marker type in the conversion settings. RoboHelp imports the 
markers from FrameMaker documents and adds the map IDs from the strings 
contained in the context-sensitive Help markers.

Manually adding a map ID file
If you received map IDs from your development team, you use these map IDs 
as the context-sensitive Help marker text strings for the marker to be used as 
context-sensitive Help marker in your FrameMaker documents. Later, you create a 
map ID file by associating the map IDs from the development team and the 
context-sensitive Help marker text you inserted in the FrameMaker documents. 
You then add this file to the project. When you link or import the FrameMaker 
documents, you specify the context-sensitive Help marker in the conversion 
settings. 

Select File > Project Settings.

In the Import tab of the Project Settings dialog box, click Edit under 
FrameMaker Document.

In the Other Settings group of the Conversion Settings dialog box, enter 
the Context-Sensitive Help Marker.

Harpreet


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Subject: how to create an embedded mini-TOC or similar?

FM10. I have this 150-page chapter that's similar to an API reference.
Each of 4-500 settings has its own topic starting with a "heading 1"
of its name. The headings are in alphabetical order.

There are obstacles to creating context-sensitive help so as a workaround I'd 
like to create a compact, multi-column list of links at the beginning of the 
chapter. Any suggestions on how to do that?

The headings rarely if ever change so I could live without it updating 
dynamically.

I thought maybe I'd start by creating a table of contents for the chapter, but 
it doesn't have hyperlinks the way the book TOC does.
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Importing Formats - Doesn't Apply?

2012-10-19 Thread rebecca officer

I'm guessing the headings that didn't change had character overrides. If you're
happy to remove all overrides from the whole document, you can do the import
again and select the Remove all overrides checkbox. If not, you can search the
document for overrides and remove them when you find them in headings.

Another thought: in the document you imported from, could some of the heading
styles there be overridden? You might think you're importing from a clean file
but not actually be.

Cheers
Rebecca

>>> Karen Robbins 19/10/12 06:08 >>>
Hi Framers,

I imported paragraph, character, and page layout formats to one
document from another. Then I realized the source document's formats
were incorrect, so I imported formats to the recipient document from
a different document that was correct. But the font family for
several headings did not change in the recipient document as it
should have.

What went wrong and how can I get the correct font to apply
document-wide (other than manually changing + "update all")? I'd
rather not have to find every affected style and change each first
instance manually.

Thanks,
Karen
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how to create an embedded mini-TOC or similar?

2012-10-19 Thread rebecca officer

> I thought maybe I'd start by creating a table of contents for the
chapter, but it doesn't have hyperlinks the way the book TOC does.
Huh? It should. Are you selecting the Create Hypertext Links checkbox when you
create the standalone TOC?

Cheers
Rebecca

>>> Robert Lauriston 19/10/12 08:08 >>>
FM10. I have this 150-page chapter that's similar to an API reference.
Each of 4-500 settings has its own topic starting with a "heading 1"
of its name. The headings are in alphabetical order.

There are obstacles to creating context-sensitive help so as a
workaround I'd like to create a compact, multi-column list of links at
the beginning of the chapter. Any suggestions on how to do that?

The headings rarely if ever change so I could live without it updating
dynamically.

I thought maybe I'd start by creating a table of contents for the
chapter, but it doesn't have hyperlinks the way the book TOC does.
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Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

Of course not - they want you to buy the suite; what incentive would there be 
if you got all the features with the point products?

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lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 1:04 AM
To: Combs, Richard; Harpreet Singh Seehra; Robert Lauriston; framers at 
lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

Interesting ... thanks for the response, Richard!

And I don't know about all of you all, but I strongly, *strongly* want any such 
"special plumbing" to be functional in the standalone purchased versions of 
FrameMaker and Acrobat Pro. (I simply don't want to get onto the much more 
costly TCS purchase/upgrade path - I do *not* need the other tools in that 
product and do not want to pay for them - I have enough trouble justifying my 
FrameMaker purchases now that the upgrade prices have gone up so much in the 
past few years.)

I *do* want the integration between FrameMaker and Acrobat Pro to be as 
good/perfect as possible. That is why I continue to justify, buy and upgrade 
the [expensive] Adobe Acrobat Pro product rather than just live with one of the 
many inexpensive "PDF printer" solutions that are available - heck, as I 
recall, one such PDF printer is included in my "PDF Convertor Pro" software 
(which I currently only use to convert from PDF to Word and Excel files).

Since I always have to perform some common manual actions every time I generate 
a PDF (since not everything "comes across" from FrameMaker), if the integration 
could be better, then that is important to me!

Harpreet, can you please provide me with Adobe's response and position here? 
What are the exact differences and why are they not in the stand-alone 
versions? Can Adobe release an update (perhaps a "connector" program similar to 
what is in TCS) for people who own FrameMaker *and* Acrobat Pro, but don't own 
TCS? Shouldn't this standard in the Acrobat Pro package for it to install this 
integration if a copy of FrameMaker is also installed on the system?

Thanks,

Z

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From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:16 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Harpreet Singh Seehra; Robert 
Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

> Aren't the features/capabilities of FrameMaker and Acrobat Pro as 
> stand-alone products not *exactly* the same as they are in TCS? Isn't 
> TCS simply a packaged-cost bundle of some Adobe products (that 
> includes FrameMaker and Acrobat - assuming that the versions are the same)?

I can't say regarding Acrobat, but for FM that hasn't been the case for any 
version of TCS. The TCS versions of FM and RoboHelp have "special plumbing" to 
make FM-RH integration work. I suspect that similar "special plumbing" has now 
been added to Acrobat to make the FM-Acro integration work. 

Richard G. Combs
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FM openObjectId markers > RoboHelp

Never tried using them to see what the effect is in RH - are you linking or 
importing? Whatever way you're doing now, try the other as a test to see if 
there's any impact on the result. 

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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM openObjectId markers > RoboHelp

All source in FM10, using RH9 to generate WebHelp.

Hyperlinks (openObjectId Hypertext markers) in a generated list of
paragraphs (.lop file) do not get converted to links in RoboHelp,
though they're fine in PDF and within FM. Anybody encountered this
before?
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Translation Software for Handling FrameMaker Documents

2012-10-19 Thread Bill Swallow

Look at memoQ. It fits your budget and works well for the situation
you have. We use it for many of our clients and have found it does an
excellent job. http://kilgray.com

Bill

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Joseph Lorenzini  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> A couple weeks ago I hit this forum on general questions about handling
> localization. Thanks for the tips and guidance. Things at work have come
> into more focus and here's the use case.
>
> --we have a hired full time person that will be devoted to localization and
> writing technical documentation in English and Chinese.
> --we will not be using translation vendor to do the translation
> --I want to purchase translation software that can create and maintain
> translation memory. The plan is that the localization person would use this
> software to automate the translation process and handle identifying new
> content from existing content so they avoid having to re-translated the same
> content over and over again.
> --I do not want the software to be more than a couple thousand dollars.
> --The software must be able to handle framemaker files as the source
> material that will need to be translated.
> --minimal learning curve to figure out how to use the software.
>
> Am I dreaming? Does such software exist that won't break the bank? I know
> there are translation solutions out there that costs tens of thousands of
> dollars but that's definitely not within the budget. If there isn't, then
> we'll have to use some type of manual process unfortunately.
>
> Thanks,
> Joseph Lorenzini
>
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Translation Software for Handling FrameMaker Documents

2012-10-19 Thread Bill Swallow

Yep, MIF would be the way to go.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Jaime Zuniga
 wrote:
> I agree with Bill. memoQ is an excellent choice for an in-house translator. 
> We use it as our main translating too and it works great with FrameMaker 
> files. It only accepts .mif files as do most if not all other translation 
> programs.
>
> Jaime
> www.protranslating.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:16 AM
> To: Joseph Lorenzini
> Cc: FrameMaker Forum
> Subject: Re: Translation Software for Handling FrameMaker Documents
>
> Look at memoQ. It fits your budget and works well for the situation you have. 
> We use it for many of our clients and have found it does an excellent job. 
> http://kilgray.com
>
> Bill
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Joseph Lorenzini  
> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> A couple weeks ago I hit this forum on general questions about
>> handling localization. Thanks for the tips and guidance. Things at
>> work have come into more focus and here's the use case.
>>
>> --we have a hired full time person that will be devoted to
>> localization and writing technical documentation in English and Chinese.
>> --we will not be using translation vendor to do the translation --I
>> want to purchase translation software that can create and maintain
>> translation memory. The plan is that the localization person would use
>> this software to automate the translation process and handle
>> identifying new content from existing content so they avoid having to
>> re-translated the same content over and over again.
>> --I do not want the software to be more than a couple thousand dollars.
>> --The software must be able to handle framemaker files as the source
>> material that will need to be translated.
>> --minimal learning curve to figure out how to use the software.
>>
>> Am I dreaming? Does such software exist that won't break the bank? I
>> know there are translation solutions out there that costs tens of
>> thousands of dollars but that's definitely not within the budget. If
>> there isn't, then we'll have to use some type of manual process 
>> unfortunately.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joseph Lorenzini
>>
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FM openObjectId markers > RoboHelp

2012-10-19 Thread Matt Sullivan

Because of the way RH converts TOC and IX into other structures I don't expect 
you'll have luck with the generated lists and ix's turning into files with live 
links?I expect it has to do with the fundamental difference in generating the 
documents themselves.

You have a great idea for additional functionality, though, and I suggest you 
submit that as a request to www.adobe.com/go/wish. I'll be doing this, and 
asking others to do so via social media.

Of course, if anyone can get this to work, please let us all know!!

-Matt

On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:51 AM, Jeff Coatsworth  wrote:

> Never tried using them to see what the effect is in RH - are you linking or 
> importing? Whatever way you're doing now, try the other as a test to see if 
> there's any impact on the result. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 8:26 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: FM openObjectId markers > RoboHelp
> 
> All source in FM10, using RH9 to generate WebHelp.
> 
> Hyperlinks (openObjectId Hypertext markers) in a generated list of
> paragraphs (.lop file) do not get converted to links in RoboHelp,
> though they're fine in PDF and within FM. Anybody encountered this
> before?
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FM openObjectId markers > RoboHelp

2012-10-19 Thread Writer

Doesn't RH have a mini-TOC option?

Nadine


>Because of the way RH converts TOC and IX into other structures I don't expect 
>you'll have luck with the generated lists and ix's turning into files with 
>live links?I expect it has to do with the fundamental difference in generating 
>the documents themselves.
>
>You have a great idea for additional functionality, though, and I suggest you 
>submit that as a request to www.adobe.com/go/wish. I'll be doing this, and 
>asking others to do so via social media.
>
>Of course, if anyone can get this to work, please let us all know!!
>
>-Matt

FM openObjectId markers > RoboHelp

 It does, but I think it's more like a bookmark or cross-ref than a hyperlink 
scenario.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 12:21 PM
To: matt at mattrsullivan.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM openObjectId markers > RoboHelp

Doesn't RH have a mini-TOC option?

Nadine


>Because of the way RH converts TOC and IX into other structures I don't expect 
>you'll have luck with the generated lists and ix's turning into files with 
>live links...I expect it has to do with the fundamental difference in 
>generating the documents themselves.
>
>You have a great idea for additional functionality, though, and I suggest you 
>submit that as a request to www.adobe.com/go/wish. I'll be doing this, and 
>asking others to do so via social media.
>
>Of course, if anyone can get this to work, please let us all know!!
>
>-Matt
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FM10 unstructured to knowledgebase

2012-10-19 Thread Chris Despopoulos

JOHN SAYS:
We
 are going to move to knowledgebase-centered doc support for our 
products. An attempt at a MindTouch transition met with frustration and 
failure. SalesForce looks no more promising. 
Does anyone have experience with authoring in FM and publishing to a good 
knowledgebase? 
If I do not find a solution, we are likely to abandon FM even though we have no 
better alternative.
john


If your KB can import data, show the the data format and I can get Maker to 
produce it.? So can any other plugin developer, or anybody who knows how to use 
scripts to munge the MIF.? Further, since you're on Maker 10, this can be 
implemented in ExtendScript, so you could do it, or somebody else could do it 
and then you could modify it as necessary.

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how to create an embedded mini-TOC or similar?

On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:30:05 -0700, Robert Lauriston 
 wrote:

>Well, no, worked except for one problem: the links that work fine when
>I Ctrl-Alt-clickare dead in the RoboHelp Web Help output. In FM the
>markers look like this:
>
>openObjectId AppendixC.fm:2 1544573

Mif2Go handles those links correctly.  Like the ones
in the generated IX, they link to specific paragraph
ObjectIDs, all of which Mif2Go preserves when:

[HTMLOptions]
ObjectIDs=All

Same for Word output, when:

[WordOptions]
ObjectIDs=All

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/

FM openObjectId markers > RoboHelp

On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:20:44 -0700 (PDT), Writer 
 wrote:

>Doesn't RH have a mini-TOC option?

Mif2Go does... has had that for years.  See
User's Guide par. 20.3, "Including local TOCs".

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/

Translation Software for Handling FrameMaker Documents

2012-10-19 Thread Jaime Zuniga

I agree with Bill. memoQ is an excellent choice for an in-house translator. We 
use it as our main translating too and it works great with FrameMaker files. It 
only accepts .mif files as do most if not all other translation programs.

Jaime
www.protranslating.com

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:16 AM
To: Joseph Lorenzini
Cc: FrameMaker Forum
Subject: Re: Translation Software for Handling FrameMaker Documents

Look at memoQ. It fits your budget and works well for the situation you have. 
We use it for many of our clients and have found it does an excellent job. 
http://kilgray.com

Bill

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Joseph Lorenzini  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> A couple weeks ago I hit this forum on general questions about 
> handling localization. Thanks for the tips and guidance. Things at 
> work have come into more focus and here's the use case.
>
> --we have a hired full time person that will be devoted to 
> localization and writing technical documentation in English and Chinese.
> --we will not be using translation vendor to do the translation --I 
> want to purchase translation software that can create and maintain 
> translation memory. The plan is that the localization person would use 
> this software to automate the translation process and handle 
> identifying new content from existing content so they avoid having to 
> re-translated the same content over and over again.
> --I do not want the software to be more than a couple thousand dollars.
> --The software must be able to handle framemaker files as the source 
> material that will need to be translated.
> --minimal learning curve to figure out how to use the software.
>
> Am I dreaming? Does such software exist that won't break the bank? I 
> know there are translation solutions out there that costs tens of 
> thousands of dollars but that's definitely not within the budget. If 
> there isn't, then we'll have to use some type of manual process unfortunately.
>
> Thanks,
> Joseph Lorenzini
>
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FM openObjectId markers > RoboHelp

I'm not importing or linking. These are Hypertext markers created by
FrameMaker when it generates a list of paragraphs (.lop file).

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Jeff Coatsworth
 wrote:
> Never tried using them to see what the effect is in RH - are you linking or 
> importing? Whatever way you're doing now, try the other as a test to see if 
> there's any impact on the result.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 8:26 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: FM openObjectId markers > RoboHelp
>
> All source in FM10, using RH9 to generate WebHelp.
>
> Hyperlinks (openObjectId Hypertext markers) in a generated list of
> paragraphs (.lop file) do not get converted to links in RoboHelp,
> though they're fine in PDF and within FM. Anybody encountered this
> before?

FM10 unstructured to knowledgebase

Is this a one-time migration or do you want to continue authoring in FrameMaker?

If you want to continue authoring in FrameMaker, what features do you
need in the knowledgebase?

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:20 PM, John Sgammato  
wrote:
> We are going to move to knowledgebase-centered doc support for our products. 
> An attempt at a MindTouch transition met with frustration and failure. 
> SalesForce looks no more promising.
> Does anyone have experience with authoring in FM and publishing to a good 
> knowledgebase?
> If I do not find a solution, we are likely to abandon FM even though we have 
> no better alternative.

AutoHotKey with FM10

Anyone using this with FM10? I find references to FM on their user
forum but mostly not recent.

FM10 unstructured to knowledgebase

That's an open-ended development project and can be quite expensive.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Chris Despopoulos
 wrote:
> If your KB can import data, show the the data format and I can get Maker to
> produce it.  So can any other plugin developer, or anybody who knows how to
> use scripts to munge the MIF.  Further, since you're on Maker 10, this can
> be implemented in ExtendScript, so you could do it, or somebody else could
> do it and then you could modify it as necessary.

FM openObjectId markers > RoboHelp

That's no help to me, since I can't make MIF2Go emulate RoboHelp's
stupid WebHelp directory structure so the hard-coded CSH URLs (which
I'm stuck with indefinitely) would work.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Jeremy H. Griffith  
wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:20:44 -0700 (PDT), Writer
>  wrote:
>
>>Doesn't RH have a mini-TOC option?
>
> Mif2Go does... has had that for years.

PDF SharePoint Question

2012-10-19 Thread Anderson, Ben

Framers,

I've got a PDF question that I hope someone can help me with.

I have a Frame 10 book that contains about 50 or so chapters/files including a
TOC and an Index. I distill the book, to individual PDFs, using Acrobat
Distiller X (part of TCS 3).

When I open either the TOC or Index PDF on my shared drive, where all of the
source Frame files and PDFs reside (same folder), all of the links to headings,
subheadings, etc. work...meaning, if I click on TOC entry "Blah Blah--3.34"
I'm taken to that very heading on page 34 of chapter 3.

Now, when I load all of the PDFs to a folder on my SharePoint site, open the
TOC PDF, and click the "Blah Blah-3.34" entry, it opens the correct PDF, but
does NOT take me to the correct page...just to page one of Chapter 3.

The same thing happens with my Index entries. They work fine on the shared
drive. But, as soon as I load the PDFs to SharePoint (2010 by the way), links
within a chapter will only take me to the first page of that particular
chapter, not to the exact page where the index tag is.

Anyone have an ideas?

Thanks!!
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FW: FM10 - font error

2012-10-19 Thread William W. Saylor, PE

From: William W. Saylor, PE [mailto:wsay...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 6:05 PM
To: 'framers at lists.framerusers.com'
Subject: FM10 - font error

I am using FM10 on a book project and have inherited some older (FM7?) files
that were exchanged using the .mif format. Somewhere there must be a "Times"
font called out, which is no longer available. When I open a single chapter
there is no problem - just an error message saying Times New Roman is used
instead. However, when I put the chapters in a book and use the
document>formatting>number command to set each chapter I get an error that
FM10 can do nothing because of the previous error.

I have searched the document, all tags etc. and can find no reference to or
use of Times. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Bill

Saylor Solutions, Inc.

William W. Saylor, PE(v) 719 481-0433

20075 Promontory Way   (mob) 719 373-3770

Monument, CO 80132  

wsaylor at earthlink.net

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how to create an embedded mini-TOC or similar?

I still haven't found a workable solution for this other than perhaps
spending $150 on FrameScript and $40 on Rick Quattro's ChapterTOC,
which would be hard to justify since I could do it manually in a very
unpleasant hour or so.

cross-reference dialog history question