RE: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Tammy Van Boening wrote: FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters are graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are copied. Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed that paging through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time and that the files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics displayed. I have tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true Page Up/Page Down trick to get the pages to refresh faster and that doesn't seem to help at all. It's really slowing me down to try to move through the chapters this way. If I need to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want to be. This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. There are a couple of possible causes: 1. if the files are on a network, any additional load on the network will slow things down. 2. the more pods you open, the slower FrameMaker becomes. The Variables/Markers/Xrefs/Insets pod is a major cause of slowdowns: every time you bring a new file to the foreground, FM updates all those lists. Close this pod if you don't need it. 3. Changes on the network can slow things down, e.g. a virus scanner on the server (or your computer) that checks the graphics files every time they're opened. Ctrl-L and PageUp/dn cause the page to be redrawn again. This just takes more time, won't have a positive effect on load times. You can use Esc v v to hide the graphics temporarily, this speeds things up considerably (but can a pain in the ass when you forget to switch them back on again before creating the PDF). Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
I'm surprised upgrading the RAM made any difference. I thought 32-bit Windows only recognizes 4 GB maximum (actually, I think it's something like 3.2 GB). Regards Keith From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Karen Braun Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:58 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files FM 11.0 / Win 7, 32-bit / Intel i3 cpu Similar problem in book with 36 chapters. Significant improvement in response time attained by upgrading RAM from 4GB to 8GB. Though there is still room for improvement. ajb Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Tammy Van Boening tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.commailto:tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote: NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? Le pr?sent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destin?s uniquement ? l'usage interne du destinataire pr?vu. Si vous avez re?u le pr?sent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser imm?diatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprim? de fa?on permanente de vos syst?mes; veuillez ?galement vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
My copy of Acrobat 8 is already paid for and it can do a lot of things easyPDF can't. Are you sure you're using the same compression, font embedding, etc. settings when comparing performance? On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: For example, with a very quick search, one of the best I have seen so far is BCL Technologies easyPDF printer. At $29.95, it does what I need, and [limited] tests using a trial version show it producing perfectly good PDF output files. It also generates _many_ times faster than Acrobat Pro. Last night, I printed a 30+ page FrameMaker document as a test, and the output file was written in under 1 second and was about 30% smaller than the one from Acrobat Pro. The same FrameMaker book took almost a minute to generate a PDF output file using Acrobat Pro. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Hi Tammy have you tried washing them through MIF? Cheers Rebecca Tammy Van Boening tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com 2/04/13 14:10 Sorry all. Here are the answers to several on and offlist questions: Printed output is not required. The PDFs produced will be viewed online only. The graphics are PNGs, all imported and all stored locally. Everything (files and graphics) are stored on my hard drive. All are imported in multiples that allow for printing standard printing considerations (100, 150, 200, or 300 dpi as per comments from Richard Combs). Brand new custom system - 16 GB RAM and 8 processors. Thanks! TVB From: Richard Doll [mailto:sgmli...@tds.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 5:20 PM To: Tammy Van Boening; 'framers' Subject: Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files Tammy, What type of graphic(s) are involved??? .eps, .tif, .???, or .pfs note - if printed output is needed . . . colors in CMYK will be required and FM-10 will not mess with them, even in the Windows environment. and you will probably want 300dpi for best results and (in my case. . . of 3k catalog pp/yr - each averaging 3.25 images/p) - .tif processes the quickest. i do not know the physical difference between .eps and .tif, but, a 4.3k .eps file = the print quality of the same graphic when it is a .tif at 1.25k. size must have something to do with amount of processing involved. changing to .tifs has saved me sooo much time . . . is now a pleasure to see the progress-bar actually hurry across the screen. if you need a script to do this conversion . . . talk with Rick Quatro - Original Message - From: Tammy Van Boening ( mailto:tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com ) To: 'framers' ( mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com ) Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:40 PM Subject: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters are graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are copied. Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed that paging through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time and that the files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics displayed. I have tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true Page Up/Page Down trick to get the pages to refresh faster and that doesn't seem to help at all. It's really slowing me down to try to move through the chapters this way. If I need to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want to be. This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue/encountered this over time with FM10. TIA, TVB ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as sgmli...@tds.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sgmlindy%40tds.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Thank you to everyone for all their insight into this issue. I have received a myriad of onlist and offlist responses, and they range from others having identical issues and not being able to resolve them to some resolution depending on if you turned off graphics, pods, etc. One interesting comment that was made to me offlist on a few occasions was that the problem seemed to really come to the forefront after the last few rounds of Windows updates, and that is truly something that I have noticed as well. A few people commented that overall FM 10 response in almost every aspect was noticeably slowed after this last round of updates and this was working local or w/ both the files and graphics stored on a network. For now, I am going to keep all pods closed and be somewhat thankful that I am pretty keyboard driven for commands (which harks back to my days on older versions of FM and my age in general J). I really do need to keep the graphics displayed as I write for a variety of reasons, but if that ultimately becomes the real showstopper, I will just have to work my way around that as well. I am sooo tired of all these issues w/ newer versions of FM. FM 7.2 and 8.0 were just as solid as a rock and quality just seems to be going downhill exponentially w/ every subsequent release. Thanks so much again everyone. Regards, TVB From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Keith Soltys Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 6:55 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files Im surprised upgrading the RAM made any difference. I thought 32-bit Windows only recognizes 4 GB maximum (actually, I think its something like 3.2 GB). Regards Keith From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Karen Braun Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:58 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files FM 11.0 / Win 7, 32-bit / Intel i3 cpu Similar problem in book with 36 chapters. Significant improvement in response time attained by upgrading RAM from 4GB to 8GB. Though there is still room for improvement. ajb Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Tammy Van Boening tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote: NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ Le présent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destinés uniquement à l'usage interne du destinataire prévu. Si vous avez reçu le présent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser immédiatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprimé de façon permanente de vos systèmes; veuillez également vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
My copy of Acrobat 8 is already paid for and it can do a lot of things easyPDF can't. Okay. I have not looked at the details in easyPDF yet, but as a fast PDF generator, I was quite pleased. But, I also do not do much editing of the PDF output. I use that file as the way to distribute review copies pretty regularly when working on a document, and having to edit it each time to fix things would be time-consuming. For the final release, about all I do to the PDF is add certain meta-data properties. Are you sure you're using the same compression, font embedding, etc. settings when comparing performance? Don't know for sure yet - only did an initial look to see if it had any basic fundamental problems. I will do more comprehensive testing later ... with other PDF creation products too. Z On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: For example, with a very quick search, one of the best I have seen so far is BCL Technologies easyPDF printer. At $29.95, it does what I need, and [limited] tests using a trial version show it producing perfectly good PDF output files. It also generates _many_ times faster than Acrobat Pro. Last night, I printed a 30+ page FrameMaker document as a test, and the output file was written in under 1 second and was about 30% smaller than the one from Acrobat Pro. The same FrameMaker book took almost a minute to generate a PDF output file using Acrobat Pro. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as syed.hos...@aeris.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:51:26 -0700, Dov Isaacs isa...@adobe.com wrote: Now if you are on Windows 64-bit, even though FrameMaker is a 32-bit application, performance may significantly improve with additional memory simply because FrameMaker is not competing for real memory as opposed to virtual memory; less paging equals much higher performance. That's what Tammy said at the very start, first line of the opening post in the thread: FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit ;-) -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.comhttp://mif2go.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Keith Soltys wrote: I'm surprised upgrading the RAM made any difference. I thought 32-bit Windows only recognizes 4 GB maximum (actually, I think it's something like 3.2 GB). That's correct. But if the PC is using integrated graphics instead of a separate graphics card, a gigabyte or more of the total memory could be used for graphics. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:51:26 -0700, Dov Isaacs isa...@adobe.com wrote: Now if you are on Windows 64-bit, even though FrameMaker is a 32-bit application, performance may significantly improve with additional memory simply because FrameMaker is not competing for real memory as opposed to virtual memory; less paging equals much higher performance. That's what Tammy said at the very start, first line of the opening post in the thread: FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit ;-) Dov and I were responding to Keith Soltys, who was responding to this post: From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Karen Braun Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:58 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files FM 11.0 / Win 7, 32-bit / Intel i3 cpu Similar problem in book with 36 chapters. Significant improvement in response time attained by upgrading RAM from 4GB to 8GB. Though there is still room for improvement. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
I virtually never edit the PDFs I generate myself, but I sometimes use Acrobat to extract and combine pages from various PDFs, consolidate comments from multiple copies of a PDF, and OCR scanned documents. On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: But, I also do not do much editing of the PDF output. I use that file as the way to distribute review copies pretty regularly when working on a document, and having to edit it each time to fix things would be time-consuming. For the final release, about all I do to the PDF is add certain meta-data properties. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
I think the memory issue came up in response to some else who posted in the thread about having a similar issue with FM11. They were running Win7 32-bit and performance had improved when they upgraded from 4 GB to 8 GB RAM. Regards Keith -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H. Griffith Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:46 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:51:26 -0700, Dov Isaacs isa...@adobe.com wrote: Now if you are on Windows 64-bit, even though FrameMaker is a 32-bit application, performance may significantly improve with additional memory simply because FrameMaker is not competing for real memory as opposed to virtual memory; less paging equals much higher performance. That's what Tammy said at the very start, first line of the opening post in the thread: FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit ;-) -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.comhttp://mif2go.com/ ___ NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ Le présent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destinés uniquement à l'usage interne du destinataire prévu. Si vous avez reçu le présent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser immédiatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprimé de façon permanente de vos systèmes; veuillez également vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11
Karen, Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We do take your needs very seriously, and have marked this issue for resolution in either a patch or the next release of FrameMaker. Although the values on line 95 of your maker.ini file will not currently display in the zoom pop-up menu (only the first 4 values will show), you may sequentially go through all of the listed zoom values by holding down control while you move your mouse wheel forward or backward. Summary of tools you can use: EDITS TO MAKER.INI FILE: You can set the available zoom levels by editing line 95 of the maker.ini file: Zoom=25, 50, 80, 100, 120, 140, 150, 160, 200, 400 Summary of useful keyboard shortcuts: Esc z i = In one zoom setting Esc z o = Out one zoom setting Esc z p = Fit Page in window Esc z w = Fit window to page Esc z f= Fit window to text frame Esc zz = Zoom to 100 percent Please note that you can also manually enter any percentage you wish over the value that is displayed in the zoom menu. That zoom value will be saved with the document. We hope that these workarounds help you in short term while we look at fixing this issue. This bug has been brought to the attention of Adobe product marketing and engineering. Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.commailto:mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J On 21-Feb-13 10:08 PM, Karen Robbins wrote: Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I just noticed that I cannot set custom zoom levels in FM 11. Why was the functionality of the old dialog box (or whatever it was called) removed? And no, I don't mean typing into the percentage/drop-down box--you know, the one that doesn't even look like an entry field until it is rolled over or clicked in. If I had to type the size every time I needed to change zoom level, I'd have the slowest workflow on the planet. Seriously, are users expected to modify an .ini file just to set zoom-level settings? (I understand from Shmuel's tip on Rocky Mountain Training's blog that it's maker.ini line 95.) Most technical writers/editors are not programmers and are neither comfortable nor familiar with modifying application files this way. Seems dangerous for workgroups. Isn't that what user interfaces are for? --Karen ___ Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Hi Tammy have you tried washing them through MIF? Cheers Rebecca >>> "Tammy Van Boening" 2/04/13 14:10 >>> Sorry all. Here are the answers to several on and offlist questions: Printed output is not required. The PDFs produced will be viewed online only. The graphics are PNGs, all imported and all stored locally. Everything (files and graphics) are stored on my hard drive. All are imported in multiples that allow for printing standard printing considerations (100, 150, 200, or 300 dpi as per comments from Richard Combs). Brand new custom system - 16 GB RAM and 8 processors. Thanks! TVB From: Richard Doll [mailto:sgmli...@tds.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 5:20 PM To: Tammy Van Boening; 'framers' Subject: Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files Tammy, What type of graphic(s) are involved??? .eps, .tif, .???, or .pfs note - if printed output is needed . . . colors in CMYK will be required and FM-10 will not mess with them, even in the Windows environment. and you will probably want 300dpi for best results and (in my case. . . of 3k catalog pp/yr - each averaging 3.25 images/p) - .tif processes the quickest. i do not know the physical difference between .eps and .tif, but, a 4.3k .eps file = the print quality of the same graphic when it is a .tif at 1.25k. size must have something to do with amount of processing involved. changing to .tifs has saved me sooo much time . . . is now a pleasure to see the progress-bar actually hurry across the screen. if you need a script to do this conversion . . . talk with Rick Quatro - Original Message - From: Tammy Van Boening ( mailto:tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com ) To: 'framers' ( mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com ) Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:40 PM Subject: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters are graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are copied. Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed that paging through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time and that the files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics displayed. I have tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true Page Up/Page Down trick to get the pages to refresh faster and that doesn't seem to help at all. It's really slowing me down to try to move through the chapters this way. If I need to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want to be. This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue/encountered this over time with FM10. TIA, TVB ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as sgmlindy at tds.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sgmlindy%40tds.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130403/804d6027/attachment.html>
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Thank you to everyone for all their insight into this issue. I have received a myriad of onlist and offlist responses, and they range from others having identical issues and not being able to resolve them to some resolution depending on if you turned off graphics, pods, etc. One interesting comment that was made to me offlist on a few occasions was that the problem seemed to really come to the forefront after the last few rounds of Windows updates, and that is truly something that I have noticed as well. A few people commented that overall FM 10 response in almost every aspect was noticeably slowed after this last round of updates and this was working local or w/ both the files and graphics stored on a network. For now, I am going to keep all pods closed and be somewhat thankful that I am pretty keyboard driven for commands (which harks back to my days on older versions of FM and my age in general J). I really do need to keep the graphics displayed as I write for a variety of reasons, but if that ultimately becomes the real showstopper, I will just have to work my way around that as well. I am sooo tired of all these issues w/ newer versions of FM. FM 7.2 and 8.0 were just as solid as a rock and quality just seems to be going downhill exponentially w/ every subsequent release. Thanks so much again everyone. Regards, TVB From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Keith Soltys Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 6:55 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files I?m surprised upgrading the RAM made any difference. I thought 32-bit Windows only recognizes 4 GB maximum (actually, I think it?s something like 3.2 GB). Regards Keith From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art & Karen Braun Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:58 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files FM 11.0 / Win 7, 32-bit / Intel i3 cpu Similar problem in book with 36 chapters. Significant improvement in response time attained by upgrading RAM from 4GB to 8GB. Though there is still room for improvement. ajb Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? Le pr?sent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destin?s uniquement ? l'usage interne du destinataire pr?vu. Si vous avez re?u le pr?sent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser imm?diatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprim? de fa?on permanente de vos syst?mes; veuillez ?galement vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130403/cef37abc/attachment.html>
Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
> My copy of Acrobat 8 is already paid for and it can do a lot of things > easyPDF can't. Okay. I have not looked at the details in easyPDF yet, but as a fast PDF generator, I was quite pleased. But, I also do not do much editing of the PDF output. I use that file as the way to distribute review copies pretty regularly when working on a document, and having to edit it each time to fix things would be time-consuming. For the final release, about all I do to the PDF is add certain meta-data properties. > Are you sure you're using the same compression, font embedding, etc. settings > when comparing performance? Don't know for sure yet - only did an initial look to see if it had any basic fundamental problems. I will do more comprehensive testing later ... with other PDF creation products too. Z On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > For example, with a very quick search, one of the best I have seen so far is > BCL Technologies "easyPDF" printer. At $29.95, it does what I need, and > [limited] tests using a trial version show it producing perfectly good PDF > output files. It also generates _many_ times faster than Acrobat Pro. Last > night, I printed a 30+ page FrameMaker document as a test, and the output > file was written in under 1 second and was about 30% smaller than the one > from Acrobat Pro. The same FrameMaker book took almost a minute to generate a > PDF output file using Acrobat Pro. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as Syed.Hosain at aeris.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Adding memory beyond 4GB on Windows 32-bit is a total waste. It is not even recognized by the operating system! Maybe the improvement came on the basis of adding faster RAM that was then used for the bottom 4GB or perhaps your CPU / motherboard combination accesses memory faster when more fully populated (YMMV)! But again, in terms of being used, a total waste! Now if you are on Windows 64-bit, even though FrameMaker is a 32-bit application, performance may significantly improve with additional memory simply because FrameMaker is not competing for real memory as opposed to virtual memory; less paging equals much higher performance. - Dov [cid:image001.png at 01CE3048.6D3D5E40] Dov Isaacs Principal Scientist Adobe Systems Incorporated +1 408.536.2896 (tel) +1 408.242.5161 (cell) isaacs at adobe.com<mailto:isaacs at adobe.com> 345 Park Avenue San Jose, CA 95110-2704 USA http://www.adobe.com<http://www.adobe.com/> Feel free to print this e-mail if your needs dictate hard copy. There is no need to feel guilty about printing! Paper is renewable and recyclable. ISAACS-OFFICE.corp.adobe.com From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Keith Soltys Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:55 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files I'm surprised upgrading the RAM made any difference. I thought 32-bit Windows only recognizes 4 GB maximum (actually, I think it's something like 3.2 GB). Regards Keith From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art & Karen Braun Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:58 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files FM 11.0 / Win 7, 32-bit / Intel i3 cpu Similar problem in book with 36 chapters. Significant improvement in response time attained by upgrading RAM from 4GB to 8GB. Though there is still room for improvement. ajb Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Tammy Van Boening mailto:tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com>> wrote: NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? Le pr?sent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destin?s uniquement ? l'usage interne du destinataire pr?vu. Si vous avez re?u le pr?sent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser imm?diatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprim? de fa?on permanente de vos syst?mes; veuillez ?galement vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130403/94a616b3/attachment.html> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 871 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130403/94a616b3/attachment.png>
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:51:26 -0700, Dov Isaacs > wrote: >Now if you are on Windows 64-bit, even though FrameMaker >is a 32-bit application, performance may significantly >improve with additional memory simply because FrameMaker >is not competing for real memory as opposed to virtual >memory; less paging equals much higher performance. That's what Tammy said at the very start, first line of the opening post in the thread: >> FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit ;-) -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://mif2go.com/
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Keith Soltys wrote: > I'm surprised upgrading the RAM made any difference. I thought 32-bit Windows > only recognizes 4 GB maximum (actually, I think it's something like 3.2 GB). That's correct. But if the PC is using integrated graphics instead of a separate graphics card, a gigabyte or more of the total memory could be used for graphics. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:51:26 -0700, Dov Isaacs > > wrote: > > >Now if you are on Windows 64-bit, even though FrameMaker > >is a 32-bit application, performance may significantly > >improve with additional memory simply because FrameMaker > >is not competing for real memory as opposed to virtual > >memory; less paging equals much higher performance. > > That's what Tammy said at the very start, first line > of the opening post in the thread: > >> FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit > > ;-) Dov and I were responding to Keith Soltys, who was responding to this post: > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art & Karen Braun > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:58 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files > > FM 11.0 / Win 7, 32-bit / Intel i3 cpu > > Similar problem in book with 36 chapters. Significant improvement in response > time attained by upgrading RAM from 4GB to 8GB. Though there is still room > for improvement. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
One reason I ditched easyPDF creator and a couple of others is that the bookmarks I happen to like/use all the time weren't part of the deal. I did check in with support on a couple of the tools and they said "no, you can add them later." Not what I wanted to hear! On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) < Syed.Hosain at aeris.net> wrote: > > My copy of Acrobat 8 is already paid for and it can do a lot of things > easyPDF can't. > > Okay. I have not looked at the details in easyPDF yet, but as a fast PDF > generator, I was quite pleased. > > But, I also do not do much editing of the PDF output. I use that file as > the way to distribute review copies pretty regularly when working on a > document, and having to edit it each time to fix things would be > time-consuming. For the final release, about all I do to the PDF is add > certain meta-data properties. > > > Are you sure you're using the same compression, font embedding, etc. > settings when comparing performance? > > Don't know for sure yet - only did an initial look to see if it had any > basic fundamental problems. I will do more comprehensive testing later ... > with other PDF creation products too. > > Z > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain > (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > > For example, with a very quick search, one of the best I have seen so > far is BCL Technologies "easyPDF" printer. At $29.95, it does what I need, > and [limited] tests using a trial version show it producing perfectly good > PDF output files. It also generates _many_ times faster than Acrobat Pro. > Last night, I printed a 30+ page FrameMaker document as a test, and the > output file was written in under 1 second and was about 30% smaller than > the one from Acrobat Pro. The same FrameMaker book took almost a minute to > generate a PDF output file using Acrobat Pro. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as Syed.Hosain at aeris.net. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris.net > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as jerilynne.knight at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jerilynne.knight%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- may your day be igKnighted with passionately powerful possibilities! <http://www.mylivesignature.com/> MamaRed Knight "Sexy backends for your business" Making strategies, systems, and automation work harder so you don't have to! Schedule your complimentary "igKnight Your Business" rendezvous<http://my.vcita.com/mamared/scheduler?service_id=5e4840fb> and get kick-a$$ clarity on your next doable step! Let's talk: 203.MAMA054 (203.626.2054) Let's connect: Facebook <http://facebook.com/mamaredknight> | Twitter<http://twitter.com/mama_red> | LinkedIn <http://linkedin.com/in/mamared> | The Web<http://mamaredspeaks.com/> | Pinterest <http://pinterest.com/mamaredpins> -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130403/c4fa8123/attachment.html>
Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
Thanks for the info! Sounds like it will be important to do a thorough test to make sure that all the capabilities I need are there ... in whatever tool I end up going with. I won't do this test/study for a few more weeks to month probably though. For now, just the ultra-fast output file generation makes it easy for me to justify using it for the review copies I send out to people here (prior to final release). Z From: mamared at mamaredspeaks.net [mailto:mama...@mamaredspeaks.net] On Behalf Of MamaRed Knight Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 11:07 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) Cc: Robert Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? One reason I ditched easyPDF creator and a couple of others is that the bookmarks I happen to like/use all the time weren't part of the deal. I did check in with support on a couple of the tools and they said "no, you can add them later." Not what I wanted to hear! On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net<mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>) mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>> wrote: > My copy of Acrobat 8 is already paid for and it can do a lot of things > easyPDF can't. Okay. I have not looked at the details in easyPDF yet, but as a fast PDF generator, I was quite pleased. But, I also do not do much editing of the PDF output. I use that file as the way to distribute review copies pretty regularly when working on a document, and having to edit it each time to fix things would be time-consuming. For the final release, about all I do to the PDF is add certain meta-data properties. > Are you sure you're using the same compression, font embedding, etc. settings > when comparing performance? Don't know for sure yet - only did an initial look to see if it had any basic fundamental problems. I will do more comprehensive testing later ... with other PDF creation products too. Z On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net<mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>) mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>> wrote: > For example, with a very quick search, one of the best I have seen so far is > BCL Technologies "easyPDF" printer. At $29.95, it does what I need, and > [limited] tests using a trial version show it producing perfectly good PDF > output files. It also generates _many_ times faster than Acrobat Pro. Last > night, I printed a 30+ page FrameMaker document as a test, and the output > file was written in under 1 second and was about 30% smaller than the one > from Acrobat Pro. The same FrameMaker book took almost a minute to generate a > PDF output file using Acrobat Pro. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as Syed.Hosain at aeris.net<mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com> or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com<mailto:listadmin at frameusers.com>. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jerilynne.knight at gmail.com<mailto:jerilynne.knight at gmail.com>. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com> or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jerilynne.knight%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com<mailto:listadmin at frameusers.com>. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- may your day be igKnighted with passionately powerful possibilities! [http://signatures.mylivesignature.com/85825/mamared/6f893a010065d3278240d96be3acabe0.png] <http://www.mylivesignature.com/> MamaRed Knight "Sexy backends for your business" Making strategies, systems, and automation work harder so you don't have to! Schedule your complimentary "igKnight Your Business" rendezvous<http://my.vcita.com/mamared/scheduler?service_id=5e4840fb> and get kick-a$$ clarity on your next doable step! Let's talk: 203.MAMA054 (203.626.2054) Let's connect: Facebook<http://facebook.com/mamaredknight> | Twitter<http://twitter.com/mama_red> | LinkedIn<http://linkedin.com/in/mamared> | The Web<http://mamaredspeaks.com/> | Pinterest<http://pinterest.com/mamaredpins> -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130403/31f4384a/attachment.html>
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I virtually never edit the PDFs I generate myself, but I sometimes use Acrobat to extract and combine pages from various PDFs, consolidate comments from multiple copies of a PDF, and OCR scanned documents. On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > But, I also do not do much editing of the PDF output. I use that file as the > way to distribute review copies pretty regularly when working on a document, > and having to edit it each time to fix things would be time-consuming. For > the final release, about all I do to the PDF is add certain meta-data > properties.
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
I think the memory issue came up in response to some else who posted in the thread about having a similar issue with FM11. They were running Win7 32-bit and performance had improved when they upgraded from 4 GB to 8 GB RAM. Regards Keith > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H. Griffith > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:46 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:51:26 -0700, Dov Isaacs > > wrote: > > >Now if you are on Windows 64-bit, even though FrameMaker is a 32-bit > >application, performance may significantly improve with additional > >memory simply because FrameMaker is not competing for real memory as > >opposed to virtual memory; less paging equals much higher performance. > > That's what Tammy said at the very start, first line of the opening post in > the > thread: > >> FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit > > ;-) > > -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. > http://mif2go.com/ > ___ NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? Le pr?sent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destin?s uniquement ? l'usage interne du destinataire pr?vu. Si vous avez re?u le pr?sent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser imm?diatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprim? de fa?on permanente de vos syst?mes; veuillez ?galement vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu.
Zoom Level Settings in FM 11
Karen, Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We do take your needs very seriously, and have marked this issue for resolution in either a patch or the next release of FrameMaker. Although the values on line 95 of your maker.ini file will not currently display in the zoom pop-up menu (only the first 4 values will show), you may sequentially go through all of the listed zoom values by holding down control while you move your mouse wheel forward or backward. Summary of tools you can use: EDITS TO MAKER.INI FILE: You can set the available zoom levels by editing line 95 of the maker.ini file: Zoom=25, 50, 80, 100, 120, 140, 150, 160, 200, 400 Summary of useful keyboard shortcuts: Esc z i = In one zoom setting Esc z o = Out one zoom setting Esc z p = Fit Page in window Esc z w = Fit window to page Esc z f= Fit window to text frame Esc zz = Zoom to 100 percent Please note that you can also manually enter any percentage you wish over the value that is displayed in the zoom menu. That zoom value will be saved with the document. We hope that these workarounds help you in short term while we look at fixing this issue. This bug has been brought to the attention of Adobe product marketing and engineering. Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoffman at adobe.com<mailto:mhoffman at adobe.com> http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J On 21-Feb-13 10:08 PM, Karen Robbins wrote: Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I just noticed that I cannot set custom zoom levels in FM 11. Why was the functionality of the old dialog box (or whatever it was called) removed? And no, I don't mean typing into the percentage/drop-down box--you know, the one that doesn't even look like an entry field until it is rolled over or clicked in. If I had to type the size every time I needed to change zoom level, I'd have the slowest workflow on the planet. Seriously, are users expected to modify an .ini file just to set zoom-level settings? (I understand from Shmuel's tip on Rocky Mountain Training's blog that it's maker.ini line 95.) Most technical writers/editors are not programmers and are neither comfortable nor familiar with modifying application files this way. Seems dangerous for workgroups. Isn't that what user interfaces are for? --Karen ___ Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com> or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com<mailto:listadmin at frameusers.com>. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130403/3666c74b/attachment.html>
