Re: OT--PDF Read Out Loud problem

2013-12-12 Thread Urszula
Carol,
Files created using Distiller create flat files, with no interactivity. They 
may be repaired, using tedious methods in Acrobat. It is much better to create 
accessible publications using techniques that take into consideration the 
entire design and workflow to minimize repairs.

True accessibility is accomplished through PDF tags. That is where screen 
reader software that people with disabilities use looks for content. One of 
those is JAWS, much more sophisticated tool than Adobe Acrobat Read Out Loud 
feature. 

I recently posted an article specifically on accessibility in FrameMaker at 
http://jetsetcom.net/uncategorised/building-adobe-framemaker-documents-for-accessibility.html

Distiller is print production centric, as it uses PostScript that drives 
printing devices. There are newer methods that give better results, when focus 
is on creating PDF files that are posted on line, thus required to be 
accessible. 

Best regards,

Urszula Witherell
www.jetsetcom.net | www.trainingonsite.com
301.524.3165

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 On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Carol J. Elkins celk...@awrittenword.com 
 wrote:
 
 After I emailed this yesterday, I tested the PDF on my laptop (also running 
 Acrobat 11 Pro on Windows 7), and the Read Out Loud function works fine. So 
 the problem must be with the Acrobat installation on my desktop CPU. I've run 
 the Repair feature to no avail. It isn't worth uninstalling and reinstalling 
 Acrobat since I can accomplish the task on my laptop.
 
 However, one of the folks who kindly responded to me off-list made some 
 comments about PDF accessibility that I'm interested in seeing discussed. She 
 wrote: I am noticing a major flag in your post: were created in Acrobat 
 Distiller 11 using the default Press job option settings. You have a few 
 things against you... Distiller should not be used when creating accessible 
 documents. Files should be converted to PDF. It may sound confusing, but the 
 PDF created by PS Distiller is very different than converted one. Acrobat 
 Read Out Loud is very rudimentary and you really should not use it for 
 testing your document. 
 
 Since I am of the School of Dov Isaacs and always print to postscript and 
 then distill to get my PDFs, the idea that I shouldn't distill to get 
 accessible PDFs is new to me. What are other people's thoughts?
 
 Carol
 
 
 Last July, I posted this question to the Acrobat Community and got nowhere. 
 So I'm asking here in hope that I can find someone who has had this problem 
 and was able to fix it.
 
 I'm using Acrobat XI Pro (fully updated to 11.0.05) on Windows7 (fully 
 patched). When I try to use the Read Out Loud feature on a PDF, Acrobat shuts 
 down. I am able to turn on (activate) the Read Out Loud feature, but when I 
 select Read to End of Page or Read This Document, Acrobat crashes. PDFs are 
 version 1.6 (Acrobat 7.x). They were created in Acrobat Distiller 11 using 
 the default Press job option settings. The documents are 100% accessible and 
 are fully tagged.
 
 I have been unable to use Read Out Loud since I upgraded from Acrobat 9 Pro 
 last January. I've read dozens of articles on how to prepare your PDFs for 
 accessibility but this PDF is straight text--no tables, captions, etc. Just 
 text. No complicated reading order. So for the life of me I can't figure out 
 what to do to get the thing to read to me. I never had a problem before 
 Acrobat 11 and I've never had to do anything to prepare the PDF.
 
 Help!
 
 Carol
 
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ExtendScript and FDK experts, please help

2013-12-12 Thread Paquet, Becky (IS)
I have recently started working with a team of people new to Frame, but who 
have programming experience. We are trying to automate working with xml files 
that use a home-grown schema. We have files set up for successful opening and 
formatting in Frame 11.0.2.384 on Windows 7. We are trying to get the annoying 
manual update steps of importing an EDD and template styles automated. I am not 
able to offer any help in the scripting or plugin-creation areas. I apologize 
for being vague. I can clarify things if I know which questions to answer.

Please answer off-list if you are willing to help, and thank you much for any 
time you take.


Rebecca S. Paquet
Documentation Team Manager
Northrop Grumman

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ExtendScript and FDK experts, please help

2013-12-12 Thread Paquet, Becky (IS)
I have recently started working with a team of people new to Frame, but who 
have programming experience. We are trying to automate working with xml files 
that use a home-grown schema. We have files set up for successful opening and 
formatting in Frame 11.0.2.384 on Windows 7. We are trying to get the annoying 
manual update steps of importing an EDD and template styles automated. I am not 
able to offer any help in the scripting or plugin-creation areas. I apologize 
for being vague. I can clarify things if I know which questions to answer.

Please answer off-list if you are willing to help, and thank you much for any 
time you take.


Rebecca S. Paquet
Documentation Team Manager
Northrop Grumman



ExtendScript and FDK experts, please help

2013-12-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
Consider switching to FrameScript. It's cheap and has much better
documentation and support.

On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Paquet, Becky (IS)
 wrote:
> I have recently started working with a team of people new to Frame, but who 
> have programming experience. We are trying to automate working with xml files 
> that use a home-grown schema. We have files set up for successful opening and 
> formatting in Frame 11.0.2.384 on Windows 7. We are trying to get the 
> annoying manual update steps of importing an EDD and template styles 
> automated. I am not able to offer any help in the scripting or 
> plugin-creation areas. I apologize for being vague. I can clarify things if I 
> know which questions to answer.
>
> Please answer off-list if you are willing to help, and thank you much for any 
> time you take.
>
>
> Rebecca S. Paquet
> Documentation Team Manager
> Northrop Grumman
>
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