Re: Quoted speech

2014-07-31 Thread Theresa de Valence

On 7/30/2014 4:49 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:

Side-bar curiosity question: why do you choose not to use the curved
apostrophe's? I find those to be more consistent with the way I want
my documents to look ... fwiw.



Actually, Z, I want to replace the curly apostrophes with straight 
apostrophes, and curly smart brackets with straight brackets, because 
I believe that these magic characters will blow up in epub, html, or 
web pages.


Are you suggesting that they won't? I'm new to producting epub but not 
web pages which don't seem to like accented characters.


Thanks,
Theresa


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RE: Quoted speech

2014-07-31 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Ah! I have no idea about web pages or ePub format yet ... all my document 
outputs are in PDF at this time.

Where I like the look of the curved apostrophes and quotes. :)

Probably simplest for you to edit the MIF files, I suspect, and change all 
occurrences there in a simple text editor.

Z

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To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Quoted speech

On 7/30/2014 4:49 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
 Side-bar curiosity question: why do you choose not to use the curved 
 apostrophe's? I find those to be more consistent with the way I want 
 my documents to look ... fwiw.

Actually, Z, I want to replace the curly apostrophes with straight apostrophes, 
and curly smart brackets with straight brackets, because I believe that these 
magic characters will blow up in epub, html, or web pages.

Are you suggesting that they won't? I'm new to producting epub but not web 
pages which don't seem to like accented characters.

Thanks,
Theresa

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Re: File not appearing in Set Structured Application dropdown

2014-07-31 Thread Ed Nodland
Angela

You said,

 I added a folder in the following location:
 Program Files\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\xml
 When I try to select my file from the Set Structured Application dropdown,
 it doesn’t appear.


Does that folder contain your Framemaker documents?  I assume they are .XML
files.

Assuming the answer is yes, Then I wonder why your department want's you to
put data files into the Program Files folder.  Seems odd to me.


The other possibility is that your department wants you to put your
application files in that folder.  The application files are the FM
Template, EDD (Element Definition), and Read/Write rules files.  These
files make up the application.


The application definitions can be edited from the structured tools
dropdown menu.  This is where an application is given a name and associated
with the application files I mentioned above.  When you click File  Open
and select a .XML file Frame will ask what application the file is written
for.  This is where the Set Structured Application dropdown comes in.  You
specify the application name so that Framemaker knows what template and
read/write rules get applied to the file when it opens the XML.


When you say, select my files, I assume you want to open an XML file
using File  Open, navigate to the folder that contains the files, select a
file to open, and then open it followed by specifying the structured
application to use.  If the application is setup this should be a simple
step.  I guess this depends on whether your department knows how to setup
FM applications, or they just install the software and expect you to do the
system configuration.


The recent versions of FM allows for Global level applications and user
level applications to be defined.  I left all the applications that came
with Frame in the Program Files folder (Global), but have my custom
customer applications in a c:/work/sw/framemaker/xml/projectname folder.


One other issue that showed up starting with FM11.  My root level element
was book but I changed it to lmbook as seen on lines 2 and 4 below.
Using book FM assumed I wanted the to use the global docbook application
and it would not ask me which structured app to use.  I assume there is
another solution to this problem, but that's what I got to work, so I stuck
with it.


 SAMPLE XML FOR STRUCTURED FM

 1  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 2  !DOCTYPE lmbook SYSTEM ..\sw\regs4fm.dtd
 3  ?FM book?
 4  lmbook ref=air2015 id=air2105 pageid=air2015
 5  ?FM document Chapter3a.fm?
 6  chapter pageid=air.3 id=air.3 ref=3 xml:space=preserve
 7  sectnum tabposition=2 tabnum=3 tabtext=IdentificationChapter
 3/sectnum
 8  title masterpage=standardSubstance and Article Identification
 (Dangerous Goods List)/title
 9  section pageid=air.3 id=air.3.1 ref=1
 10 sectnum3.1/sectnum
 11 titleGeneral/title


Ed Nodland

San Diego Data Services

sddat.com




On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Heiko Haida i...@heiko-haida.de wrote:

  Hi Angela,

 I am not sure if I understand what you are expecting.

 If there is a department rule, those department guys should tell you
 what to do exactly - it seems they know something.

 Ok, now, you say: When I try to select my file from the Set Structured
 Application dropdown

 Well, you do not select a file there. This option will apply the settings
 of one of the structured applications (defined in the structapps.fm) to
 an open xml file, so that FrameMaker knows how to handle this file, parse
 with which DTD, use which entities and so on.

 Maybe you can specify your problem more accurately.

 (Or: Maybe you should get a good introduction in working with structured
 FrameMaker first.)

 Good luck - Tino Haida, Berlin



 angela.fos...@daimler.com:

  Hi There,



 I’m a longtime Unstructured Frame user but am new to Structured. Per
 department rules, I added a folder in the following location:



 Program Files\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\xml



 When I try to select my file from the Set Structured Application dropdown,
 it doesn’t appear. The folder and files are in the xml folder though. I
 restarted Frame and restarted my computer just to make sure.



 What am I missing?



 Thanks much for the help!



 Angela


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