RE: post-processing a PDF with FM markers

2015-03-24 Thread David Artman 
If you find a solution to maintining cross-document links when a user emails the file to another system... publish and patent it and wait for your Nobel in Physics!  ;-)
 
Shlomo's method will work, too, of course... but not if moved to where the satellite PDF can't resolve the host domain/IP (same Impossible Thing Beore Breakfast as above, just with path types: relative v absolute). But the draw back of that method is (a) you can't just use 'quick' FM xrefs but have to insert 'slow' hyperlink markers and (b) it adds yet-another implementation step when someone sets up the server--and in my experience, when the Doc Team asks for other to do work to implement their functionality, folks get irritable. :-)  [I also suspect it might not future-proof well, should you begin to deliver to multiple output types and devices. But having never actually done doc cross-links that way in 20 years of FM use... I wold have to test thoroughly to be confident.]
 
It's your boat to ffloa, but I've done 10-document sets with a team of 15 writers without the least hassle. You just gotta (a) do production in bluck, at the end or (b) use a CMS/VCS and risk not having the most-current updates when you generate a set for delivery. But that is an issue that's totally orthogonal to the method you choose--nothing about how you make FM cross links is going to help you if you do not have a coordinated publishing workflow.
 
Bon chance...
David
 

 Original Message Subject: Re: post-processing a PDF with FM markersFrom: John Sgammato Date: Tue, March 24, 2015 3:51 pmTo: David Artman Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
That's pretty much what we do now, but it's hard to have all the books open at once when four writers are hurtling toward a deadline... 
And we have found that customer-users often copy a doc to email to a colleague or to use elsewhere and then the links break. 
It's not a stopper for now, but I'd love to find a more robust solution.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:44 PM, David Artman  wrote:


 I concur with Robert, unless you're facing other issue that you didn't mention in your post.
 
Have all the BOOK files open when you print to PDF; and esure that the resulting PDFs are located in the same relative file structure as the BOOK files. [If I were you, I'd put all BOOK files in one folder, for simplicity of access, regardless of where you let choose to locate your working FM-type and graphics files.]
 
Barring that, you could do something with Named Desitnations I reckon... but that's just a major pain: as you noted, you won't know the base location to make aboslute/hyperlink references in the FM files. But if it's your company's system to setup and install, it should be trivial just to make a docs folder on it somewhere and plop all your PDFs in that (and a shortcut to the 'master' document, perhaps, on the All Users Desktop). Done deal.
 
David
 

 Original Message Subject: Re: post-processing a PDF with FM markersFrom: Robert Lauriston Date: Mon, March 23, 2015 12:05 pmTo: John Sgammato , "framers@lists.frameusers.com" I've defined cross-references between FrameMaker files that workedacross generated PDFs, provided the PDFs were in the same positionsrelative to each other in the directory structure (e.g. all in thesame directory) as the FrameMaker books were.It used to be that all the files in all the books had to be open whengenerating the PDFs for that to work, but it has been a few yearssince I did that.On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:58 AM, John Sgammato wrote:>> I generate a library of PDFs that are delivered to the customer inside a server that we sell and install for them. Some of our customers are in secure facilities with no outside internet access, so I can't just point them to our knowledge base.>> I need a way to link from one PDF to another, when they are all served from that customer server.___You are currently subscribed to framers as da...@davidartman.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/david%40davidartman.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Re: post-processing a PDF with FM markers

2015-03-24 Thread John Sgammato 
That's pretty much what we do now, but it's hard to have all the books open
at once when four writers are hurtling toward a deadline...
And we have found that customer-users often copy a doc to email to a
colleague or to use elsewhere and then the links break.
It's not a stopper for now, but I'd love to find a more robust solution.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:44 PM, David Artman  wrote:

>  I concur with Robert, unless you're facing other issue that you didn't
> mention in your post.
>
> Have all the BOOK files open when you print to PDF; and esure that the
> resulting PDFs are located in the same relative file structure as the BOOK
> files. [If I were you, I'd put all BOOK files in one folder, for simplicity
> of access, regardless of where you let choose to locate your working
> FM-type and graphics files.]
>
> Barring that, you could do something with Named Desitnations I reckon...
> but that's just a major pain: as you noted, you won't know the base
> location to make aboslute/hyperlink references in the FM files. But if it's
> your company's system to setup and install, it should be trivial just to
> make a docs folder on it somewhere and plop all your PDFs in that (and a
> shortcut to the 'master' document, perhaps, on the All Users Desktop). Done
> deal.
>
> David
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: post-processing a PDF with FM markers
> From: Robert Lauriston 
> Date: Mon, March 23, 2015 12:05 pm
> To: John Sgammato ,
> "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
>
> I've defined cross-references between FrameMaker files that worked
> across generated PDFs, provided the PDFs were in the same positions
> relative to each other in the directory structure (e.g. all in the
> same directory) as the FrameMaker books were.
>
> It used to be that all the files in all the books had to be open when
> generating the PDFs for that to work, but it has been a few years
> since I did that.
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:58 AM, John Sgammato
>  wrote:
> >
> > I generate a library of PDFs that are delivered to the customer inside a
> server that we sell and install for them. Some of our customers are in
> secure facilities with no outside internet access, so I can't just point
> them to our knowledge base.
> >
> > I need a way to link from one PDF to another, when they are all served
> from that customer server.
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RE: post-processing a PDF with FM markers

2015-03-24 Thread David Artman 
 I concur with Robert, unless you're facing other issue that you didn't mention in your post.
 
Have all the BOOK files open when you print to PDF; and esure that the resulting PDFs are located in the same relative file structure as the BOOK files. [If I were you, I'd put all BOOK files in one folder, for simplicity of access, regardless of where you let choose to locate your working FM-type and graphics files.]
 
Barring that, you could do something with Named Desitnations I reckon... but that's just a major pain: as you noted, you won't know the base location to make aboslute/hyperlink references in the FM files. But if it's your company's system to setup and install, it should be trivial just to make a docs folder on it somewhere and plop all your PDFs in that (and a shortcut to the 'master' document, perhaps, on the All Users Desktop). Done deal.
 
David
 

 Original Message Subject: Re: post-processing a PDF with FM markersFrom: Robert Lauriston Date: Mon, March 23, 2015 12:05 pmTo: John Sgammato , "framers@lists.frameusers.com" I've defined cross-references between FrameMaker files that workedacross generated PDFs, provided the PDFs were in the same positionsrelative to each other in the directory structure (e.g. all in thesame directory) as the FrameMaker books were.It used to be that all the files in all the books had to be open whengenerating the PDFs for that to work, but it has been a few yearssince I did that.On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:58 AM, John Sgammato wrote:>> I generate a library of PDFs that are delivered to the customer inside a server that we sell and install for them. Some of our customers are in secure facilities with no outside internet access, so I can't just point them to our knowledge base.>> I need a way to link from one PDF to another, when they are all served from that customer server.___You are currently subscribed to framers as da...@davidartman.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/david%40davidartman.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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sidehead bug FM11: one solution

2015-03-24 Thread Craig Ede 
My colleague was just bit by the sidehead bug which was the topic of much 
discussion a week or so ago.

She recovered by importing all formats (with Manual Page Breaks and Other 
Format/Layout Overrides checked as well) from the backup file, which was 
undamaged but out of date. Everything popped back into place.

If your backup file is also damaged, I expect that you could accomplish the 
same fix using a copy of the template used to create the document saved within 
the same directory (although Importing Variables and possibly other formats 
might have to be unchecked before the import).

The sidehead bug was triggered by an Undo she performed in a table.

Sidehead bug: The sudden introduction of sideheads into a document that did not 
previously have sideheads. Paragraph tags are also affected. 

Craig
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Re: Equation Palette: What are all the buttons?

2015-03-24 Thread Klaus Daube 
On 23 Mar 2015 at 16:19, Lin Sims wrote:

> On the Operators tab, there are three different buttons showing a
> large ? with a smaller one up and to the right. At least one of these
> is a superscript and one is an exponent. I've no idea what the third
> one is, and I don't know which button is which. I'd like to. 

Lin, may this help?
http://www.daube.ch/docu/fm-kurs/handout-fm80.pdf#page=265

... And if you have a large (highres) screen, you may have a look at 
http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker63.html 

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