Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)

2015-06-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
Looking at the version comparison, the additions for unstructured
FrameMaker in English are:

- conditional table columns
- book-level conditional text
- web help custom skins
- auto-insert table continuation variables
- mini-TOCs

Still no wiki integration.

I'll be curious to see how well the conditional table columns work.
That seems like a major challenge.
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RE: Adobe Customer Care-less - Yet another round

2015-06-02 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Which is quite bizarre as everything posted to the frame list seems to be 
echoed in the Yahoo group e-mails I'm getting

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Hmm, as some others of you who may have also decided to poke around, you 
too may have noticed. Lot's of spam in that group and lots of NSFW 
subject lines.

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Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)

2015-06-02 Thread David Spreadbury
Packaging is in FrameMaker 12. Some of the other new features will be very 
welcome.
Dave 


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to me unfortunately … but I have been railing about this for a while now.  
Means that I will continue my “all new documents are in LaTeX, old documents 
edited in FrameMaker” approach. And transition the update work to LaTeX too …  
I am really pleased with LaTeX so far (for my documentation needs! YMMV!)   Z  
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Subject: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)  Adobe has announced the new 
version of FrameMaker. It looks like a more substantial release than FrameMaker 
12.  http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker.html  RegardsKeith  --Keith 
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Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)

2015-06-02 Thread john . x . posada
Word Import Style Mapping

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Looking at the version comparison, the additions for unstructured
FrameMaker in English are:

- conditional table columns
- book-level conditional text
- web help custom skins
- auto-insert table continuation variables
- mini-TOCs

Still no wiki integration.

I'll be curious to see how well the conditional table columns work.
That seems like a major challenge.
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Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)

2015-06-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
About time. Quark had that feature down maybe 20 years ago. It'll be
interesting to see if you can round-trip it reliably.

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RE: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)

2015-06-02 Thread Keith Soltys
And the improved Word import, which does look like a significant improvement.

Regards
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Looking at the version comparison, the additions for unstructured FrameMaker in 
English are:

- conditional table columns
- book-level conditional text
- web help custom skins
- auto-insert table continuation variables
- mini-TOCs

Still no wiki integration.

I'll be curious to see how well the conditional table columns work.
That seems like a major challenge.

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Re: Adobe Customer Care-less - Yet another round

2015-06-02 Thread Alan Litchfield
Hmm, as some others of you who may have also decided to poke around, you 
too may have noticed. Lot's of spam in that group and lots of NSFW 
subject lines.


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RE: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)

2015-06-02 Thread Keith Soltys
The import feature looks good, at least as much as I can tell from a two-minute 
video.

No mention of any changes to export though. Word round-tripping would be 
wonderful, but I'm not holding my breath.

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About time. Quark had that feature down maybe 20 years ago. It'll be 
interesting to see if you can round-trip it reliably.

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Re: workarounds for FM10 UI bugs?

2015-06-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
I got a reply from Adobe QA a couple of weeks ago (three years and a few
months after I posted this):

... First of all thanks to raise these pain points, we have taken note and
will investigate them at earliest. Some issues are already fixed by now, I
have my comments inline[red].

Please do let us know if there are further pain points.





-



1. Document window size and position are not saved.

[ksaini]: Right now document window is not supported but locations of most
modal and modeless dialog boxes are remembered. We will investigate on
remembering document window position.



2. Docked panels often appear behind the document window, and I have to
resize, minimize, or close the document window to use them. Since window
size and position are not saved, I have to resize them dozens of times a
day.

[ksaini]: We will consider this in our coming releases



3. Sometimes I have the opposite problem: the side of a window is
completely blocked by the character or paragraph tag catalog, so I have to
minimize, close, or move the panel before I can resize the window.

[ksaini]: Same as 2.



4. When I open a panel, sometimes it appears behind another panel that's
already open, and I have to move one or the other before I can use it.

[ksaini]: Fixed in FM Next( the upcoming release of FM)



5. The first time I press Ctrl-f, I can just type the search string, but
after that the focus within the Find/Change seems to be random, so I can't.

[ksaini]: We shall investigate to fix this but for now there’s a workaround
– disable editàpreferencesàInterfaceàHide pod on close.



6. After a book has been open for a while, it no longer responds to menu
commands. I can double-click files to open them or use the right-click
menu, but if I try to select a menu command such as Edit  Update Book or
File  Save As PDF the book window minimizes and is no longer active. The
only workaround I've found is to close and reopen the book window, which I
end up doing dozens of times a day.

[ksaini]: Don’t see these issues in FM 12 or internal builds



7. A separate FrameMaker button appears on the taskbar for each file that's
open.

[ksaini]: if document window is undocked and FM icon is hovered then
multiple instances appears, similar behavior is there in outlook/browsers.
We would like to understand your pain point here.



8. The FrameMaker console window appears behind the application window.
Bringing it to the front is sometimes difficult.

[ksaini] fixed in FM 12 patch.



9. When I first start FrameMaker, Ctrl-F6 switches between open windows.
After a while, it stops working. (I can use alt-key menu

navigation.)

[ksaini]: Works fine in FM 12/ FM next



10. Alt-key menu letters are not displayed for all menu commands (e.g.

Documents on the Window menu).

[ksaini]: In FM 12 we improved some menu. We will take this up in future.



11. If I Alt-Tab to FrameMaker from another application, pressing Alt-Tab
again takes me to another FrameMaker document window (if more than one
document is open) instead of back to the other application.

[ksaini]: works fine in FM 12/ FM next


On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com
wrote:

 I've been working 4-8 hours a day in FrameMaker 10 for the past few
 weeks, first time I've used it heavily since the radical UI changes in
 FM9. Are these known bugs? It's hard for me to believe they haven't
 fixed them. Windows 7 64-bit SP1.  I don't have any of the following
 problems with any of the many other applications I use, though I don't
 use any of the other apps in TCS 3.5 very heavily.

 1. Document window size and position are not saved.

 2. Docked panels often appear behind the document window, and I have
 to resize, minimize, or close the document window to use them. Since
 window size and position are not saved, I have to resize them dozens
 of times a day.

 3. Sometimes I have the opposite problem: the side of a window is
 completely blocked by the character or paragraph tag catalog, so I
 have to minimize, close, or move the panel before I can resize the
 window.

 4. When I open a panel, sometimes it appears behind another panel
 that's already open, and I have to move one or the other before I can
 use it.

 5. The first time I press Ctrl-f, I can just type the search string,
 but after that the focus within the Find/Change seems to be random, so
 I can't.

 6. After a book has been open for a while, it no longer responds to
 menu commands. I can double-click files to open them or use the
 right-click menu, but if I try to select a menu command such as Edit 
 Update Book or File  Save As PDF the book window minimizes and is no
 longer active. The only workaround I've found is to close and reopen
 the book window, which I end up doing dozens of times a day.

 7. A separate FrameMaker button appears on the taskbar for each file
 that's open.

 8. The FrameMaker console window appears behind the application
 window. Bringing it to the front is 

RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question

2015-06-02 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hello,

Thanks to all who made suggestions for the use of transparent graphics.  Even 
when using a clipping path in an EPS file, we had trouble with the thin line 
around the image border.  We eventually decided to add the product image and 
the background logo as a single combined image ... because we can control all 
of the settings and variations within Adobe Illustrator.  This does complicate 
our process just a little bit, but we get what we want.

NEW QUESTION:

Still FM12 on Win7 PC

Why do keyboard commands sometimes get ignored?  I like keyboard cmds such as 
[Esc] [m] [p] to minimize an anchored frame around a graphic image.  When the 
PC is freshly booted and FrameMaker is freshly launched, this usually works.  
At times, however, keyboard commands are ignored.  This also is true for 
commands such as [Esc] [Spacebar] [n or m] for en and em spaces, and [Esc] [-] 
[h] for non-breaking hyphens.  It takes a reboot of FM software AND the Windows 
OS to get this feature to work ... but only sometimes ... at times I just need 
to wait a few days8-(ARGHHH !

In contrast, commands such as  [Ctrl]+[q]  [Shift]+[p]  provide an en dash even 
when the Escape commands fail.

Your advice is always appreciated.  I have been on the digest since FM 4 and 
enjoy the information as well as the banter.

Thanks,

Ed DeRosier

-Original Message-
From: De Rosier, Edward 
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:42 AM
Subject: FM12 Transparent Graphics

Hello Framers,

We are using FM 12 (TCS 5) on Windows 7 PCs.

When we add a product image to the body page, the white background of the 
product image masks a portion of the background image.   We have tried images 
(referenced from a common image folder) of the following types:  Adobe 
Illustrator (*.ai), Adobe Photoshop (*.psd), *.png, and *.eps.

Even though we have carefully created knockedout images with transparent 
backgrounds, we have not been able to avoid the masking effect.

Thank you,

Ed DeRosier
Technical Writer
Anritsu Company, Morgan Hill, California, USA

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Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)

2015-06-02 Thread Keith Soltys
Adobe has announced the new version of FrameMaker. It looks like a more 
substantial release than FrameMaker 12.

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker.html

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Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)

2015-06-02 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 17:25 + 2/6/15, Keith Soltys wrote:

Adobe has announced the new version of FrameMaker. It looks like a more 
substantial release than FrameMaker 12.
 
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker.htmlhttp://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker.html

Klunky name: hope the rest of it is slicker.

I look forward to user feedback - although some of the touted features, such as 
better Word import, CMS/DropBox integration and PDF reviewing, have been touted 
before.

Conditional table columns: yay! Packaging! Better pods! Conditional books!

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RE: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)

2015-06-02 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Yeah. The upgrade price of $399 still seems like a non-starter to me 
unfortunately … but I have been railing about this for a while now.

Means that I will continue my “all new documents are in LaTeX, old documents 
edited in FrameMaker” approach. And transition the update work to LaTeX too …

I am really pleased with LaTeX so far (for my documentation needs! YMMV!)

Z

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Subject: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)

Adobe has announced the new version of FrameMaker. It looks like a more 
substantial release than FrameMaker 12.

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker.html

Regards
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