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Re: [Framers] Thai text in Fm11?

2016-02-08 Thread Heiko Haida

 

Hi, 

I know some people who work with FM 10 to set Thai text. 

They still had a Win XP computer for this, as the same text would not
show up correctly on a Win 7 machine.
We could not figure out, why. 

There are two other main problems with Thai texts: 

a) accents may not be displayed correctly in FrameMaker. If so, we
placed small graphics over the wrong characters, which is a tedious
work, of course. 

b) word boundaries are only known to native speakers, as Thai is written
without spaces. You need someone -- who can also work with FM -- to
break the lines correctly. 

So, it is possible to work with FM, but it was not so trivial as with
other languages.
There may be better solutions, I guess... I have not checked with FM
2015, by the way. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Anna Lena Söderling: 

> Hi,
> 
> I want to know if it anyone knows if it works fine to translate English docs 
> created in Fm11 into Thai.
> 
> Are there things to be aware of or known problems that will occur?
> 
> I will appreciate any advice.
> 
> Anna Lena Söderling, StoneBeach AB
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Re: [Framers] Special Characters in Variables

2016-02-08 Thread Art Campbell

Interesting thing on the fonts, Klaus.
Both solutions work, but I opted for Tino's because my font isn't Unicode.


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On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:16 AM, Klaus Daube  wrote:

> On 7 Feb 2016 at 12:32, Art Campbell wrote:
>
> > On FM 15, I'm working with a product name that I want in a variable that
> > contains dashes/hyphens (like Jack-In-The-Box).
> >
> > The Frame text key sequence of Esc - h doesn't work, and the ASCII
> > sequence of Alt 2011 doesn't work.
>
> Definition in the Variable: n–m—nobreak\u2011broken?
> Running my text with a non-Unicode font Lucida Bright:
> => At the place of the \u2011 a ? is inserted in the text:
>
> Running my text with a Unicode font (Lucida Sans Unicode)
> displays a - correctly and it behaves as intended.
>
> [image: graphic]
>
> So the problem is in the font which You use.
>
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Re: [Framers] Thai text in Fm11?

2016-02-08 Thread Art Campbell

I think -- double check this -- that FM 2015 support Thai.


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On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Heiko Haida  wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> I know some people who work with FM 10 to set Thai text.
>
> They still had a Win XP computer for this, as the same text would not
> show up correctly on a Win 7 machine.
> We could not figure out, why.
>
> There are two other main problems with Thai texts:
>
> a) accents may not be displayed correctly in FrameMaker. If so, we
> placed small graphics over the wrong characters, which is a tedious
> work, of course.
>
> b) word boundaries are only known to native speakers, as Thai is written
> without spaces. You need someone -- who can also work with FM -- to
> break the lines correctly.
>
> So, it is possible to work with FM, but it was not so trivial as with
> other languages.
> There may be better solutions, I guess... I have not checked with FM
> 2015, by the way.
>
> Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin
>
> Anna Lena Söderling:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to know if it anyone knows if it works fine to translate English
> docs created in Fm11 into Thai.
> >
> > Are there things to be aware of or known problems that will occur?
> >
> > I will appreciate any advice.
> >
> > Anna Lena Söderling, StoneBeach AB
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[Framers] Thai text in Fm11?

2016-02-08 Thread Anna Lena Söderling

Hi,


I want to know if it anyone knows if it works fine to translate English docs 
created in Fm11 into Thai.

Are there things to be aware of or known problems that will occur?

I will appreciate any advice.

Anna Lena Söderling, StoneBeach AB
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 15 -- Pub to HTML5 from Struct -- Control TOC

2016-02-08 Thread Chris Despopoulos

Thanks for the pointer.  Ok, so here's what happens...
To make a book out of the DITA, I save the map as a composite .fm file, add 
that composite to a book, build the TOC, and go.  When I publish this book as 
HTML5, then the TOC comes out fine, but the HTML is a single composite HTML 
file.  I'll try splitting it on certain pgf formats to see if that helps.
When I publish from the DITAMAP, the resulting HTML TOC gives me one entry for 
the filename, and another entry for the navtitle name.  The navtitle entry is 
nested in the filename entry.  And...  To see the topic I have to click that 
nested navtitle entry.  

Thanks  cud


  From: Amit Jha 
 To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" ; "Chris 
Despopoulos  (despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com)" 
 
 Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 3:29 AM
 Subject: FrameMaker 15 -- Pub to HTML5 from Struct -- Control TOC
   
Hi Chris

Thanks for reporting the issue.
Are you using DITAMAP or Book to publish HTML5?
Responsive HTML5 output TOC is controlled by DitaMap structure in case of 
DITAMAP publishing and in case of BOOK it uses FM TOC inside book. In case of 
Book if TOC is missing in book it fallback to folder structure, if that is the 
case then please add a TOC in the BOOK, How?( 
http://www.wikihow.com/Generate-a-TOC-for-a-FrameMaker-Document).

Please let me know if it is not working for you.

Thanks
Amit Jha


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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 12:32:12 -0500
From: Art Campbell 
To: Framers List ,
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Subject: [Framers] Special Characters in Variables
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On FM 15, I'm working with a product name that I want in a variable that 
contains dashes/hyphens (like Jack-In-The-Box).

The Frame text key sequence of Esc - h doesn't work, and the ASCII sequence of 
Alt 2011 doesn't work.

Any ideas?

TIA,
Art

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redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 17:44:31 + (UTC)
From: Chris Despopoulos 
To: Framers List ,
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Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 15 -- Pub to HTML5 from Struct --
    Control TOC
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi all...
I'm interested to use the RoboHelp pubs engine that's now in Maker to generate 
HTML5 and maybe other outputs.? I'm going from DITA.? Problem is, for every 
topic I get two nesting entries in the TOC.? So to see a topic you have to 
click to open the "container", then click again to open the "topic".? I don't 
see anything in the GUI to specify mapping separate topics to a TOC hierarchy.? 

I tried Help, but guess what...? I don't get anything -- somehow the VM on my 
mac can't get out to the "cloud" to access the "help".? (Yet another problem 
with centralized docs...) Anyway, if anybody can point me in the right 
direction I'd be much obliged.
Thanks? cud


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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 17:48:33 + (UTC)
From: Chris Despopoulos 
To: Chris Despopoulos

[Framers] FrameMaker 15 -- Pub to HTML5 from Struct -- Control TOC

2016-02-08 Thread Amit Jha

Hi Chris

Thanks for reporting the issue.
Are you using DITAMAP or Book to publish HTML5?
Responsive HTML5 output TOC is controlled by DitaMap structure in case of 
DITAMAP publishing and in case of BOOK it uses FM TOC inside book. In case of 
Book if TOC is missing in book it fallback to folder structure, if that is the 
case then please add a TOC in the BOOK, How?( 
http://www.wikihow.com/Generate-a-TOC-for-a-FrameMaker-Document).

Please let me know if it is not working for you.

Thanks
Amit Jha


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Message-ID:


Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On FM 15, I'm working with a product name that I want in a variable that 
contains dashes/hyphens (like Jack-In-The-Box).

The Frame text key sequence of Esc - h doesn't work, and the ASCII sequence of 
Alt 2011 doesn't work.

Any ideas?

TIA,
Art

Art Campbell
  mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com
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redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 17:44:31 + (UTC)
From: Chris Despopoulos 
To: Framers List ,
"mailto:writers--techies-on-framema...@googlegroups.com;

Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 15 -- Pub to HTML5 from Struct --
Control TOC
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi all...
I'm interested to use the RoboHelp pubs engine that's now in Maker to generate 
HTML5 and maybe other outputs.? I'm going from DITA.? Problem is, for every 
topic I get two nesting entries in the TOC.? So to see a topic you have to 
click to open the "container", then click again to open the "topic".? I don't 
see anything in the GUI to specify mapping separate topics to a TOC hierarchy.? 

I tried Help, but guess what...? I don't get anything -- somehow the VM on my 
mac can't get out to the "cloud" to access the "help".? (Yet another problem 
with centralized docs...) Anyway, if anybody can point me in the right 
direction I'd be much obliged.
Thanks? cud


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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 17:48:33 + (UTC)
From: Chris Despopoulos 
To: Chris Despopoulos ,Framers List
,
"mailto:writers--techies-on-framema...@googlegroups.com;

Subject: [Framers] Publish HTML 5 from DITA
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Sorry...? I forgot to change the topic title

 
Hi all...
I'm interested to use the RoboHelp pubs engine that's now in Maker to generate 
HTML5 and maybe other outputs.? I'm going from DITA.? Problem is, for every 
topic I get two nesting entries in the TOC.? So to see a topic you have to 
click to open the "container", then click again to open the "topic".? I don't 
see anything in the GUI to specify mapping separate topics to a TOC hierarchy.? 

I tried Help, but guess what...? I don't get anything -- somehow the VM on my 
mac can't get out to the

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 15 -- Pub to HTML5 from Struct -- Control TOC

2016-02-08 Thread Chris Despopoulos

And yes, for the composite doc it works if I split topics at certain pgf 
formats.
Thanks!

  From: Amit Jha 
 To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" ; "Chris 
Despopoulos  (despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com)" 

 Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 3:29 AM
 Subject: FrameMaker 15 -- Pub to HTML5 from Struct -- Control TOC

Hi Chris

Thanks for reporting the issue.
Are you using DITAMAP or Book to publish HTML5?
Responsive HTML5 output TOC is controlled by DitaMap structure in case of 
DITAMAP publishing and in case of BOOK it uses FM TOC inside book. In case of 
Book if TOC is missing in book it fallback to folder structure, if that is the 
case then please add a TOC in the BOOK, How?( 
http://www.wikihow.com/Generate-a-TOC-for-a-FrameMaker-Document).

Please let me know if it is not working for you.

Thanks
Amit Jha

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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 12:32:12 -0500
From: Art Campbell 
To: Framers List ,
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Subject: [Framers] Special Characters in Variables
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On FM 15, I'm working with a product name that I want in a variable that 
contains dashes/hyphens (like Jack-In-The-Box).

The Frame text key sequence of Esc - h doesn't work, and the ASCII sequence of 
Alt 2011 doesn't work.

Any ideas?

TIA,
Art

Art Campbell
          mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com
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redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 17:44:31 + (UTC)
From: Chris Despopoulos 
To: Framers List ,
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Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 15 -- Pub to HTML5 from Struct --
    Control TOC
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi all...
I'm interested to use the RoboHelp pubs engine that's now in Maker to generate 
HTML5 and maybe other outputs.? I'm going from DITA.? Problem is, for every 
topic I get two nesting entries in the TOC.? So to see a topic you have to 
click to open the "container", then click again to open the "topic".? I don't 
see anything in the GUI to specify mapping separate topics to a TOC hierarchy.? 

I tried Help, but guess what...? I don't get anything -- somehow the VM on my 
mac can't get out to the "cloud" to access the "help".? (Yet another problem 
with centralized docs...) Anyway, if anybody can point me in the right 
direction I'd be much obliged.
Thanks? cud

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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 17:48:33 + (UTC)
From: Chris Despopoulos 
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Subject: [Framers] Publish HTML 5 from DITA
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Sorry...? I forgot to change the topic title

Hi all...
I'm interested to use the RoboHelp pubs engine that's now in Maker to generate 
HTML5 and maybe other outputs.? I'm going from

[Framers] FrameMaker 12 - RoboHelp 11 - Graphics Conversion shows bad results

2016-02-08 Thread thomas . zeisig

We are using TCS 5 and encounter blurry graphics when we convert a 
FrameMaker book to HTML Help.
All graphics are referenced in the FrameMaker files and are mainly Tiffs 
with  632x475 px at 200 dpi.
Due to our layout we want to become the graphics in the on-line help 
enlarged to 200 %.
It seems that RoboHelp converts the graphics in two stages, in the first 
stage  the graphics will be resized to 96 dpi, 303x228 px. 
In the second stage this 96 dpi graphic is then scaled to 200% which 
results in bad image quality.
Is there any way to change this conversion behaviour?
If I resize such a tiff in Photoshop I get perfect quality, but it is a 
one stage conversion.
BTW: We tested RoboHelp 2015 too, with the same result. 
 
Best Regards  - Thomas Zeisig
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