Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-07-29 Thread russ

Fine, you all can have the last word. I know better than to continue
this debate. I should have known better than to even start it.

Russ

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Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 13:58:29 -0700
From: Robert Lauriston 
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured
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Structured markup has been around longer than the web, PDFs, online
help, or personal computers.

Since you make your living from structured content, I'm not going to
waste time explaining why it's not the best choice for every set of
requirements, and why people are still creating interesting and useful
unstructured tools.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:01 PM,  wrote:
> Pat, I'd like to assert that structured content is generally THE answer,
> period. Nothing interesting happens with unstructured content anymore,
> because the technology is decades old. Any technical writer in a
> high-demand environment should be using structured content. If you are
> not, you are now closer to the typewriter than you are to modern
> practices. ...


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Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-07-29 Thread Pat Christenson
Russ:

"This is the quickest path to failure I can think of. All roads to success 
involve the long view and much investment. If you won't do this, nobody here 
can help you regardless any tools or technologies."

I have to disagree, Russ. Not every problem requires "much investment," and as 
for your statement that nobody here can help me regardless of tools or tech, 
two people have sent me ideas, both of which are workable, could be implemented 
immediately (or close to it), would cost nothing, and are better than what I 
have here now.

Pat

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Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

Pat, I'd like to assert that structured content is generally THE answer, 
period. Nothing interesting happens with unstructured content anymore, because 
the technology is decades old. Any technical writer in a high-demand 
environment should be using structured content. If you are not, you are now 
closer to the typewriter than you are to modern practices.

Having said that, DITA is but one option. Some find answers there, others do 
not. There are many ways to structure information and get significant benefits. 
Fortunately, you are already using FrameMaker which is a very flexible 
structured authoring tool. Take some time to investigate and see what it has to 
offer. You would be in much worse shape if you were using Word or similar.

Also, I have to comment on this one statement:

"I can't stress enough that right now, we need short-term solutions."

This is the quickest path to failure I can think of. All roads to success 
involve the long view and much investment. If you won't do this, nobody here 
can help you regardless any tools or technologies.

Russ


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