Re: [Framers] Question about using a building block in a variable that is on a master page

2017-12-06 Thread Peter Gold
If it's a legacy document, a MIF wash is always a good troubleshooting
starting point. If that doesn't fix the problem, read on:

It's possibly a string-truncation bug. Have you tried using a different
Running H/F variable, to see if the error is in how the variable container
is processed?

It's not clear from your description if the "." that follows the <$chapnum>
variable is part of your definition, or just a normal full stop for the
sentence. Whichever, have you tried adding a character after the <$chapnum>
variable in the Running H/F1 definition, to see if that is retained or
truncated in the processing?

HTH

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Tammy Van Boening <
tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I  have inherited a template that needs to be greatly simplified. In the
> Master pages of this template, there is a page called "First," and on this
> page, there is a Header Text frame. In this frame, I have placed the system
> Variable Running H/F 1, and I have defined this variable as
> Chapter:<$chapnum>. The Numbering Properties for the first chapter in the
> book is set to Chapter 1, Numeric Format, and the Numbering properties for
> all subsequent chapters in the book are set to Continue Numbering from
> Previous Chapter, Numeric Format.
>
>
>
> Sounds simple, right? Well, no matter what I do, after saving and updating
> all files in this book, what is showing on the Body page is Chapter:
> <$chapnum
>
>
>
> Yep, just like that - the partial variable definition of $chapnum instead
> of
> the actual chapter number. I am at a complete loss for this - I have never
> seen this before. The variable is fully contained in the header text frame
> and when I click on it on the Master Page to edit it, I see the variable
> completely and properly defined, so why it is displaying like this, I can't
> explain. I have never seen this before.
>
>
>
> FM 12, Win 7 Ultimate, 64-bit.
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
> TVB
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Owner/Principal
>
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
>
> Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
>
> 303-840-1755
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] Question about using a building block in a variable that is on a master page

2017-12-06 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Well, apparently, you cannot use the <$chapnum> building block as part of a
system variable because there is a system variable called Chapter Number
already (thanks Rick) So, did a quick redo of my tags (actually
simplified some things as a result) and I should be plodding forward in this
template (no, definitely NOT moving forward right now - just plodding.)

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1755

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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Question about using a building block in a variable that
is on a master page

Hi All,

 

I  have inherited a template that needs to be greatly simplified. In the
Master pages of this template, there is a page called "First," and on this
page, there is a Header Text frame. In this frame, I have placed the system
Variable Running H/F 1, and I have defined this variable as
Chapter:<$chapnum>. The Numbering Properties for the first chapter in the
book is set to Chapter 1, Numeric Format, and the Numbering properties for
all subsequent chapters in the book are set to Continue Numbering from
Previous Chapter, Numeric Format.

 

Sounds simple, right? Well, no matter what I do, after saving and updating
all files in this book, what is showing on the Body page is Chapter:
<$chapnum

 

Yep, just like that - the partial variable definition of $chapnum instead of
the actual chapter number. I am at a complete loss for this - I have never
seen this before. The variable is fully contained in the header text frame
and when I click on it on the Master Page to edit it, I see the variable
completely and properly defined, so why it is displaying like this, I can't
explain. I have never seen this before.

 

FM 12, Win 7 Ultimate, 64-bit.

 

TIA,

 

TVB  

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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[Framers] Question about using a building block in a variable that is on a master page

2017-12-06 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Hi All,

 

I  have inherited a template that needs to be greatly simplified. In the
Master pages of this template, there is a page called "First," and on this
page, there is a Header Text frame. In this frame, I have placed the system
Variable Running H/F 1, and I have defined this variable as
Chapter:<$chapnum>. The Numbering Properties for the first chapter in the
book is set to Chapter 1, Numeric Format, and the Numbering properties for
all subsequent chapters in the book are set to Continue Numbering from
Previous Chapter, Numeric Format.

 

Sounds simple, right? Well, no matter what I do, after saving and updating
all files in this book, what is showing on the Body page is Chapter:
<$chapnum

 

Yep, just like that - the partial variable definition of $chapnum instead of
the actual chapter number. I am at a complete loss for this - I have never
seen this before. The variable is fully contained in the header text frame
and when I click on it on the Master Page to edit it, I see the variable
completely and properly defined, so why it is displaying like this, I can't
explain. I have never seen this before.

 

FM 12, Win 7 Ultimate, 64-bit.

 

TIA,

 

TVB  

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker tab bug workaround

2017-12-06 Thread Shmuel Wolfson

I forgot to mention that I have 2015 (version 13.0.5.547).
It's possible this bug is fixed in the current version.
Below it says that it is fixed in version 14.0.0.361.

Shmuel

On 06-Dec-17 11:07 AM, Klaus Daube wrote:

Hello Shmuel,

I had reported this with FM-11 and it was considered duplicate at that
time.

This bug re-appeared several times:

Bug 2959372 during beta testing FM-11: Sub dialogue not working:

File > Preferences > Interface: Autocollaps Iconic Panels

ON is my preferred setting to dismiss the pods automatically.

There is however a severe drawback of this method: If the pod

opens an additional dialogue for entry of values, then the pod

closes and the entry in the subdialogue is lost.

1 Open the paragraph designer with CTRL+m 2).

2 Either you are already in the Basic pane with the New Tab

  Stop item selected – or you naviguate to this situation.

3 ENTER does nothing – one needs to move the mouse and

  click on the item (although it appears to be selected).

4 Edit Tab Stop dialogue opens.

5 As soon as I start typing in this dialogue, the pod dialogue

  disappears.

6 After entering data in Edit Tab Stop and invoking Continue

  (click or ENTER) the dilaogue closes.

7 Opening the pargraph designer again does not display the

  newly set TAB stop.

In FM-10 the underlying problem ( 2742006 - Sub dialogue is not
accessible with

"Autocollapse Iconic Panels") was 'resolved' as Deferred...

FRMAKER-2031  [not me] Tab stops can not be modified:

=> Fixed in 13.0.3.495

=> re-appears in 13.0.5.547

=> fixed in 14.0.0.361

So hopefully "new features" will not revive this fault perpetually.

Klaus

~~~
~~

Klaus Daube Phone:  +41-44-381 37 77

Schäracher 11   Mail:   kl...@daube.ch

CH-8053 Zürich  Web:www.daube.ch
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker tab bug workaround

2017-12-06 Thread Klaus Daube
   Hello Shmuel,

   I had reported this with FM-11 and it was considered duplicate at that
   time.

   This bug re-appeared several times:

   Bug 2959372 during beta testing FM-11: Sub dialogue not working:

   File > Preferences > Interface: Autocollaps Iconic Panels

   ON is my preferred setting to dismiss the pods automatically.

   There is however a severe drawback of this method: If the pod

   opens an additional dialogue for entry of values, then the pod

   closes and the entry in the subdialogue is lost.

   1 Open the paragraph designer with CTRL+m 2).

   2 Either you are already in the Basic pane with the New Tab

 Stop item selected – or you naviguate to this situation.

   3 ENTER does nothing – one needs to move the mouse and

 click on the item (although it appears to be selected).

   4 Edit Tab Stop dialogue opens.

   5 As soon as I start typing in this dialogue, the pod dialogue

 disappears.

   6 After entering data in Edit Tab Stop and invoking Continue

 (click or ENTER) the dilaogue closes.

   7 Opening the pargraph designer again does not display the

 newly set TAB stop.

   In FM-10 the underlying problem ( 2742006 - Sub dialogue is not
   accessible with

   "Autocollapse Iconic Panels") was 'resolved' as Deferred...

   FRMAKER-2031  [not me] Tab stops can not be modified:

   => Fixed in 13.0.3.495

   => re-appears in 13.0.5.547

   => fixed in 14.0.0.361

   So hopefully "new features" will not revive this fault perpetually.

   Klaus

   ~~~
   ~~

   Klaus Daube Phone:  +41-44-381 37 77

   Schäracher 11   Mail:   kl...@daube.ch

   CH-8053 Zürich  Web:www.daube.ch
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