Re: [Framers] Strange copy and past behaviour from Word
Hi Rick that solves the problem do you know why? thanks On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: > What happens if you choose Unicode Text instead of Text? > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > r...@frameexpert.com > 585-729-6746 NEW! > > > > -Original Message- > From: Framers > On > Behalf Of Caroline Tabach > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 10:47 AM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Strange copy and past behaviour from Word > > Plain English text Ariel font in both cases. > > That is why it was strange > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > > > What was in place of the question marks when it was in Word? Some > > things don't have exact text equivalents, or the font you are using in > > FrameMaker may not contain the symbol you used. > > > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:33 AM Caroline Tabach > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > I am working with Frame 2017 > > > > > > I am copying some things from Word 2013 to the document > > > > > > If I choose Paste Special/Text when I paste, there are strange > > question > > > marks in the pasted material. > > > > > > If I just click paste - I do not get this > > > > > > does anyone know what could be causing this? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Caroline Tabach > > > Technical/Marcom Writer > > > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > > > ___ > > > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > > > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > Lin Sims > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > > -- > Caroline Tabach > Technical/Marcom Writer > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Learning Structure and Prefix (and more)
Howdy Framers, I'm still trying to get heading paragraphs inserted by my EDD when opening xml content. I guess I must ask if this is even possible with the xml example below? For example, the XML description elements need to have a heading run-in para with the heading text inserted. Model 1 Spa description1 Spa description2 Spa description3 Formatted should look like: Model 1 Heading1: Spa description1 Heading2: Spa description2 Heading3: Spa description3 After reading: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/315301 , it seems to not be possible (the engineers will be displeased), but then I got the idea to use autoinsertions. I created a para element and that is referenced as a child insert in each description element. It does not work when opening the XML file, but it works fine if I manually add the elements and content from Frame. I did not test that on all the other approaches I tried since I am not able to edit the xml files, but at least I got to see some things I tried may actually be correct. I tried a myriad of different prefixs, such as in the spa element, defining a prefix with the description elements as the context. The context rules work for formatting, but I could not get the prefix to show. I tried it in the para element, and as noted before in the description elements. I can get the prefix and formatted the way I want, but the description content is always part of the same paragraph, so it's just an in-line text insert. As far as structure, if the above is not possible, Would it make sense to just tell the engineers to wrap the description text in another para element? With that, I get the prefixes the way I want by adding them to the description elements. Thanks C2 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2019 Issues and First Look
My guess is Adobe took Windows out of the PDF-generation loop so that Microsoft updates or selecting the wrong printer driver can't break it. This is the 1.0 release of that code. Give them six months or a year to get the bugs out and address limitations. On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 5:03 PM, Tom Beiswenger wrote: > > I don’t know if Adobe monitors this list, but the pdf issue, for me, also > is a deal breaker. Seems absurd that they would take something that worked > and “improve “ it so well that it now is pretty much useless. > >> On Sep 2, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Harding, Dan wrote: >> >> The new PDF creation mechanism and its inflexibility is a complete > dealbreaker for me. I need to be able to easily create my PDFs in different > locations with different names on the fly. Having neither of those aspects > settable at output time nor saved on a per-file basis is utterly dain > bramaged. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Strange copy and past behaviour from Word
What happens if you choose Unicode Text instead of Text? Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 NEW! -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Caroline Tabach Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 10:47 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Strange copy and past behaviour from Word Plain English text Ariel font in both cases. That is why it was strange On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > What was in place of the question marks when it was in Word? Some > things don't have exact text equivalents, or the font you are using in > FrameMaker may not contain the symbol you used. > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:33 AM Caroline Tabach > > > wrote: > > > Hi > > I am working with Frame 2017 > > > > I am copying some things from Word 2013 to the document > > > > If I choose Paste Special/Text when I paste, there are strange > question > > marks in the pasted material. > > > > If I just click paste - I do not get this > > > > does anyone know what could be causing this? > > > > thanks > > > > > > -- > > Caroline Tabach > > Technical/Marcom Writer > > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Strange copy and past behaviour from Word
I'm at a loss. Would you be willing to send me directly a Word file with the problematic text? It's hard to diagnose without that. A look at the MIF file might provide a clue, although at this point I'm not sure what you'd need to look for. Was it showing up as text question marks or those black diamonds with the white question mark inside? On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:47 AM Caroline Tabach wrote: > Plain English text Ariel font in both cases. > > That is why it was strange > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > > > What was in place of the question marks when it was in Word? Some things > > don't have exact text equivalents, or the font you are using in > FrameMaker > > may not contain the symbol you used. > > > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:33 AM Caroline Tabach < > caroline.tab...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > I am working with Frame 2017 > > > > > > I am copying some things from Word 2013 to the document > > > > > > If I choose Paste Special/Text when I paste, there are strange > > question > > > marks in the pasted material. > > > > > > If I just click paste - I do not get this > > > > > > does anyone know what could be causing this? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Caroline Tabach > > > Technical/Marcom Writer > > > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > > > ___ > > > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > > Archives located at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > Lin Sims > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > > -- > Caroline Tabach > Technical/Marcom Writer > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Strange copy and past behaviour from Word
Plain English text Ariel font in both cases. That is why it was strange On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > What was in place of the question marks when it was in Word? Some things > don't have exact text equivalents, or the font you are using in FrameMaker > may not contain the symbol you used. > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:33 AM Caroline Tabach > > wrote: > > > Hi > > I am working with Frame 2017 > > > > I am copying some things from Word 2013 to the document > > > > If I choose Paste Special/Text when I paste, there are strange > question > > marks in the pasted material. > > > > If I just click paste - I do not get this > > > > does anyone know what could be causing this? > > > > thanks > > > > > > -- > > Caroline Tabach > > Technical/Marcom Writer > > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Strange copy and past behaviour from Word
What was in place of the question marks when it was in Word? Some things don't have exact text equivalents, or the font you are using in FrameMaker may not contain the symbol you used. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:33 AM Caroline Tabach wrote: > Hi > I am working with Frame 2017 > > I am copying some things from Word 2013 to the document > > If I choose Paste Special/Text when I paste, there are strange question > marks in the pasted material. > > If I just click paste - I do not get this > > does anyone know what could be causing this? > > thanks > > > -- > Caroline Tabach > Technical/Marcom Writer > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Strange copy and past behaviour from Word
Hi I am working with Frame 2017 I am copying some things from Word 2013 to the document If I choose Paste Special/Text when I paste, there are strange question marks in the pasted material. If I just click paste - I do not get this does anyone know what could be causing this? thanks -- Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame 2019 Bug & Staus Update
Dear all, FRMAKER-5251 by Oran Petersen might be considered a duplicate to FRMAKER-4931 by me (in the beta-buglist) from Adobe. According to Amitoj Singh this issue will be resolved in the first update. I can not confirm FRMAKER-5253. What strikes me is Windows 10. There were severe problems with the April update of W10 (1803). If this is really random than it is really difficult to pin the reason down. Klaus ~ Klaus Daube Phone: +41-44-381 37 77 Schäracher 11 Mail: kl...@daube.ch CH-8053 Zürich Web:www.daube.ch ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame 2019 Bug & Staus Update
Never mind, I found them. Why does Adobe make it so hard to find their bug tracker from their website? At any rate, I've upvoted all of these, although only 5251 and 5253 are deal breakers for me. The other two are very much along the lines of, how do you keep managing to break things that were working? On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 7:49 AM Lin Sims wrote: > Can you provide links to the bug reports so that others can vote on them? > All these are dealbreakers for me; I will not be upgrading unless they are > fixed and I want to tell Acrobat so, officially. > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:39 AM Oran Petersen wrote: > >> >> Frame 2019 Bugs & Status >> This is an update to my post of August 29. I have filed 4 bugs with Adobe >> on the new Frame. I have the TCS 2019 package. >> >> Save-As PDF: (Adobe Frame Bug #5251) Hooked to the new Publish function, >> unless someone can find a setting or button to make it work as it did in >> earlier Frame versions. Not practical for those that just wish to pop out a >> quick PDF like we could do in earlier versions. It is even worse than I >> thought, because the Publish function creates a folder of the file name >> (without extension) AND creates a PDF folder inside that one. Two more >> layers. You also get the file name with a .pdf extension inside the PDF >> folder, with no opportunity to pick a name. This might be necessary to >> publish any number of the 7 outputs with one button push, but Publish and >> Save-As PDF need to be totally disconnected for most of our process flows. >> Right now most Frame print settings are ignored, and default to the >> Publisher settings. Frame warns you of this with an intercept dialog, but >> seemingly does not allow you to change it. There is a "Use Distiller" check >> box in the Publish settings, but it does not work. I now try to "Print" >> with Adobe PDF set as the default printer. This escapes the Publish crap, >> but you still have to choose the folder and make sure the Print to >> Postscript is unchecked. You can change the file name as well. Except, on >> several occasions the print bypassed the Save-As choice and went straight >> to PDF. You then figure out which folder. Seems to be the Windows focused >> folder at the time. Messing with the Print Settings in the Print window >> seems to re-focus it to bring back the Save-As. Weird. The distiller is not >> used for this operation. It is all inside Frame and Acrobat 2017. Even >> non-Adobe apps are done without the distiller. >> >> Save-As PDF: (Adobe Frame Bug #5253) Frame Freeze! When the progress bar >> (new in 2019) hits 100% it just stops, forever, unless you use the task >> manager to kill Frame. I have found no other way to break out of this. Has >> now happened at least 5 times. It seems to work the 2nd time OK. Not sure >> of the trigger. Only seems to happen with Save-As PDF. No problem with this >> for the other print functions so far. No error message, no "Not Responding" >> indicator, no crash. >> >> Frame Window sizing across dual monitors with different resolution: >> (Adobe Frame Bug #5252) Frame finally got this fixed in Frame 2017 and now >> it is broken again in Frame 2019. This is a real pain when you use two >> monitors with significantly different resolutions, which I do. I found that >> by making the lower res monitor the "Main Display" that the Frame window >> text, etc. is OK on the lower res unit, but goes tiny if you move the >> window to the high res monitor. This means you cannot put dialog boxes on >> the high res monitor because they are not legible with the small font. Dual >> monitor use is now not an option with my setup for Frame authoring. >> >> "Go To Next" triangle (pointer) on the Frame window footer is >> inoperative/missing: (Adobe Frame Bug #5254). When on the First or Last >> page you see the small version of the triangle, but it does not work. When >> on other than First or Last, the triangle is simply gone. Page Down key is >> your alternative, or use the "Go To Page" dialog. >> >> I am very close to remaining with Frame 2017 until this stuff gets fixed. >> The file management & processing for PDF is just too messy. And I need the >> displays to work as they did in the 2017 version as well. >> >> If anyone has found fixes, workarounds or settings to help with this >> stuff, please let me know. >> >> I have been a Frame user, and Frame expert in a large company, since the >> beginning, 1980’s until recent retirement. I should know better than to >> take on a new version out of the gate. I was a beta tester in earlier days, >> so I have seen all of the new version disasters and more. >> Oran Petersen >> ___ >> >> This message is from the Framers mailing list >> >> Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >> Archives located at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >> Subscribe and unsubscribe at >> http://li
Re: [Framers] Frame 2019 Bug & Staus Update
Can you provide links to the bug reports so that others can vote on them? All these are dealbreakers for me; I will not be upgrading unless they are fixed and I want to tell Acrobat so, officially. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:39 AM Oran Petersen wrote: > > Frame 2019 Bugs & Status > This is an update to my post of August 29. I have filed 4 bugs with Adobe > on the new Frame. I have the TCS 2019 package. > > Save-As PDF: (Adobe Frame Bug #5251) Hooked to the new Publish function, > unless someone can find a setting or button to make it work as it did in > earlier Frame versions. Not practical for those that just wish to pop out a > quick PDF like we could do in earlier versions. It is even worse than I > thought, because the Publish function creates a folder of the file name > (without extension) AND creates a PDF folder inside that one. Two more > layers. You also get the file name with a .pdf extension inside the PDF > folder, with no opportunity to pick a name. This might be necessary to > publish any number of the 7 outputs with one button push, but Publish and > Save-As PDF need to be totally disconnected for most of our process flows. > Right now most Frame print settings are ignored, and default to the > Publisher settings. Frame warns you of this with an intercept dialog, but > seemingly does not allow you to change it. There is a "Use Distiller" check > box in the Publish settings, but it does not work. I now try to "Print" > with Adobe PDF set as the default printer. This escapes the Publish crap, > but you still have to choose the folder and make sure the Print to > Postscript is unchecked. You can change the file name as well. Except, on > several occasions the print bypassed the Save-As choice and went straight > to PDF. You then figure out which folder. Seems to be the Windows focused > folder at the time. Messing with the Print Settings in the Print window > seems to re-focus it to bring back the Save-As. Weird. The distiller is not > used for this operation. It is all inside Frame and Acrobat 2017. Even > non-Adobe apps are done without the distiller. > > Save-As PDF: (Adobe Frame Bug #5253) Frame Freeze! When the progress bar > (new in 2019) hits 100% it just stops, forever, unless you use the task > manager to kill Frame. I have found no other way to break out of this. Has > now happened at least 5 times. It seems to work the 2nd time OK. Not sure > of the trigger. Only seems to happen with Save-As PDF. No problem with this > for the other print functions so far. No error message, no "Not Responding" > indicator, no crash. > > Frame Window sizing across dual monitors with different resolution: (Adobe > Frame Bug #5252) Frame finally got this fixed in Frame 2017 and now it is > broken again in Frame 2019. This is a real pain when you use two monitors > with significantly different resolutions, which I do. I found that by > making the lower res monitor the "Main Display" that the Frame window text, > etc. is OK on the lower res unit, but goes tiny if you move the window to > the high res monitor. This means you cannot put dialog boxes on the high > res monitor because they are not legible with the small font. Dual monitor > use is now not an option with my setup for Frame authoring. > > "Go To Next" triangle (pointer) on the Frame window footer is > inoperative/missing: (Adobe Frame Bug #5254). When on the First or Last > page you see the small version of the triangle, but it does not work. When > on other than First or Last, the triangle is simply gone. Page Down key is > your alternative, or use the "Go To Page" dialog. > > I am very close to remaining with Frame 2017 until this stuff gets fixed. > The file management & processing for PDF is just too messy. And I need the > displays to work as they did in the 2017 version as well. > > If anyone has found fixes, workarounds or settings to help with this > stuff, please let me know. > > I have been a Frame user, and Frame expert in a large company, since the > beginning, 1980’s until recent retirement. I should know better than to > take on a new version out of the gate. I was a beta tester in earlier days, > so I have seen all of the new version disasters and more. > Oran Petersen > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at h
