Re: [Framers] Learning Structure and Prefix (and more)
Thanks for that, Rick. I suppose that could work. I think it means I would need to create new para formats for each description element to house the 'numbering' text (the headings are short, such as "Description:", Settings:" etc.). This seems about as effective as using an inline text insert and text range formatting. Either of the two can almost accomplish what I want, which is a side-head alignment effect using RunInHeading, right justified, and the indented body is left justified with a large left margin. With inline text (or numbering?), I thought I could use a tab with decimal (:) alignment and mimic the side-head effect, but that did not format as desired so I used a tab and first/second indents. I also use ePublisher to produce HTML and tabs get replaced with spaces, so there is no alignment there. Maybe I don't know enough about ePublisher to fix that? I'm not sure if it would be better to ask the engineers to add the heading text in a generic subhead element, a unique element for each heading text, or to make the description element just a container by wrapping the text range in a generic para element. What would any of you do? Thanks C2 -- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 08:40:26 -0400 From: "Rick Quatro" To: "'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'" Subject: Re: [Framers] Learning Structure and Prefix (and more) Message-ID: <001801d44515$9fb50f20$df1f2d60$@rickquatro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi C2, Can you use an autonumber instead of a prefix? Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 NEW! -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of cuc tu Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 8:01 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Learning Structure and Prefix (and more) Howdy Framers, I'm still trying to get heading paragraphs inserted by my EDD when opening xml content. I guess I must ask if this is even possible with the xml example below? For example, the XML description elements need to have a heading run-in para with the heading text inserted. Model 1 Spa description1 Spa description2 Spa description3 Formatted should look like: Model 1 Heading1: Spa description1 Heading2: Spa description2 Heading3: Spa description3 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Learning Structure and Prefix (and more)
Hi C2, Can you use an autonumber instead of a prefix? Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 NEW! -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of cuc tu Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 8:01 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Learning Structure and Prefix (and more) Howdy Framers, I'm still trying to get heading paragraphs inserted by my EDD when opening xml content. I guess I must ask if this is even possible with the xml example below? For example, the XML description elements need to have a heading run-in para with the heading text inserted. Model 1 Spa description1 Spa description2 Spa description3 Formatted should look like: Model 1 Heading1: Spa description1 Heading2: Spa description2 Heading3: Spa description3 After reading: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/315301 , it seems to not be possible (the engineers will be displeased), but then I got the idea to use autoinsertions. I created a para element and that is referenced as a child insert in each description element. It does not work when opening the XML file, but it works fine if I manually add the elements and content from Frame. I did not test that on all the other approaches I tried since I am not able to edit the xml files, but at least I got to see some things I tried may actually be correct. I tried a myriad of different prefixs, such as in the spa element, defining a prefix with the description elements as the context. The context rules work for formatting, but I could not get the prefix to show. I tried it in the para element, and as noted before in the description elements. I can get the prefix and formatted the way I want, but the description content is always part of the same paragraph, so it's just an in-line text insert. As far as structure, if the above is not possible, Would it make sense to just tell the engineers to wrap the description text in another para element? With that, I get the prefixes the way I want by adding them to the description elements. Thanks C2 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Strange copy and past behaviour from Word
Hi Caroline, I am not sure without seeing the characters. You can change the default for the clipboard in the [Preferences] section of the maker.ini file: ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, MIFW, MIF, RTF, OLE 2, META, EMF, DIB, BMP, UNICODE TEXT, TEXT The most useful thing is to have unicode text listed first, so that you don't have to use Paste Special. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 NEW! -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Caroline Tabach Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:29 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Strange copy and past behaviour from Word Hi Rick that solves the problem do you know why? thanks On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: > What happens if you choose Unicode Text instead of Text? > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > r...@frameexpert.com > 585-729-6746 NEW! > > > > -Original Message- > From: Framers > > On > Behalf Of Caroline Tabach > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 10:47 AM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Strange copy and past behaviour from Word > > Plain English text Ariel font in both cases. > > That is why it was strange > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > > > What was in place of the question marks when it was in Word? Some > > things don't have exact text equivalents, or the font you are using > > in FrameMaker may not contain the symbol you used. > > > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:33 AM Caroline Tabach > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > I am working with Frame 2017 > > > > > > I am copying some things from Word 2013 to the document > > > > > > If I choose Paste Special/Text when I paste, there are strange > > question > > > marks in the pasted material. > > > > > > If I just click paste - I do not get this > > > > > > does anyone know what could be causing this? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Caroline Tabach > > > Technical/Marcom Writer > > > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > > > ___ > > > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > > > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > Lin Sims > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/ framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > > -- > Caroline Tabach > Technical/Marcom Writer > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/ framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe > and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2019 Issues and First Look
"This is the 1.0 release of that code. Give them six months or a year to get the bugs out and address limitations." Absolutely. However, it will then be six months or a year before I upgrade. I'm not about to give them money on faith that it might be fixed, as in its current form it's unusable for my needs. There's also the possibility that the cure could be worse than the disease. I'll adopt a "wait and see" attitude. -Dan ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] FM-15 (2019) - Yet Another Bug in ExtendScript
When saving as 2017 from directly from FrameMaker2019 to 2017 everything is OK. But saving it with Extendscript (Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary140) doesn't work. Of course the created file can not be opened by FM-14 (2017). Discovered by Klaus Göbel. with Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary140 I get a header NOK with Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary130 I get a header OK with Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary150 I get a header OK See bug report FRMAKER-5261 Klaus ~ Klaus Daube Phone: +41-44-381 37 77 Schäracher 11 Mail: kl...@daube.ch CH-8053 Zürich Web:www.daube.ch ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
