RE: Table Footnotes
Hi Carla, I had this problem recently. Here's how I 'faked' it. I created a 'real' footnote reference in text outside the table, so the footnote text appears at the bottom of the page with the other 'real' footnotes. Then I 'hid' the footnote reference by making it white and very small. Lastly I added a superscript number in the table to resemble the footnote reference. Caution: Although this method will automatically update the footnotes if there are changes ahead of this table footnote, the fake footnote reference in the table is not updated automatically, and would have to be updated if necessary. There is probably a way of automating this. In my situation I had to make a Framemaker document look like an existing printed report. ...Chris -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla Sent: May-06-09 2:18 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Table Footnotes I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a current document. Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages later to find out what it means... I can't seem to find a setting to change this. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as cs...@sympatico.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cseal%40sympatico.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Table Footnotes
Hi Carla, I had this problem recently. Here's how I 'faked' it. I created a 'real' footnote reference in text outside the table, so the footnote text appears at the bottom of the page with the other 'real' footnotes. Then I 'hid' the footnote reference by making it white and very small. Lastly I added a superscript number in the table to resemble the footnote reference. Caution: Although this method will automatically update the footnotes if there are changes ahead of this table footnote, the fake footnote reference in the table is not updated automatically, and would have to be updated if necessary. There is probably a way of automating this. In my situation I had to make a Framemaker document look like an existing printed report. ...Chris -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla Sent: May-06-09 2:18 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Table Footnotes I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a current document. Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages later to find out what it means... I can't seem to find a setting to change this. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as cseal at sympatico.ca. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cseal%40sympatico.ca Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Older Version Corel Files
Oops. Should have read your post carefully. I don't think Irfanview can open vector graphics. Chris -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Chris Seal Sent: April-10-09 5:38 PM To: 'J. Paul Kent'; 'Framers' Subject: RE: Older Version Corel Files Hi. Have you tried Irfanview? http://irfanview.com/ Chris -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of J. Paul Kent Sent: April-10-09 5:22 PM To: techw...@lists.techwr-l.com; Framers Subject: OT: Older Version Corel Files I'm trying to open a couple of files I used to record the names of my roses when I planted them back in 94. I no longer have a copy of Corel, so I downloaded the trial, but when I try to open them, I get an error message: Attempting to open Version 1.x or 2.x file. This file format is not supported. Please access the Readme file for additional information. Does anyone have an older copy of Corel that could be used to open these and save up to a version that I can open with CorelDRAW X4 Demo version I just installed? If so, or if you have any other ideas, please contact me off list (I'm on digest) and I'll send them to you. Thanks in advance, J. Paul Kent 206-383-0539 206-508-1144 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as cs...@sympatico.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cseal%40sympatico.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as cs...@sympatico.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cseal%40sympatico.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Older Version Corel Files
Hi. Have you tried Irfanview? http://irfanview.com/ Chris -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of J. Paul Kent Sent: April-10-09 5:22 PM To: techwr-l at lists.techwr-l.com; Framers Subject: OT: Older Version Corel Files I'm trying to open a couple of files I used to record the names of my roses when I planted them back in 94. I no longer have a copy of Corel, so I downloaded the trial, but when I try to open them, I get an error message: Attempting to open Version 1.x or 2.x file. This file format is not supported. Please access the Readme file for additional information. Does anyone have an older copy of Corel that could be used to open these and save up to a version that I can open with CorelDRAW X4 Demo version I just installed? If so, or if you have any other ideas, please contact me off list (I'm on digest) and I'll send them to you. Thanks in advance, J. Paul Kent 206-383-0539 206-508-1144 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as cseal at sympatico.ca. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cseal%40sympatico.ca Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Older Version Corel Files
Oops. Should have read your post carefully. I don't think Irfanview can open vector graphics. Chris -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Chris Seal Sent: April-10-09 5:38 PM To: 'J. Paul Kent'; 'Framers' Subject: RE: Older Version Corel Files Hi. Have you tried Irfanview? http://irfanview.com/ Chris -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of J. Paul Kent Sent: April-10-09 5:22 PM To: techwr-l at lists.techwr-l.com; Framers Subject: OT: Older Version Corel Files I'm trying to open a couple of files I used to record the names of my roses when I planted them back in 94. I no longer have a copy of Corel, so I downloaded the trial, but when I try to open them, I get an error message: Attempting to open Version 1.x or 2.x file. This file format is not supported. Please access the Readme file for additional information. Does anyone have an older copy of Corel that could be used to open these and save up to a version that I can open with CorelDRAW X4 Demo version I just installed? If so, or if you have any other ideas, please contact me off list (I'm on digest) and I'll send them to you. Thanks in advance, J. Paul Kent 206-383-0539 206-508-1144 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as cseal at sympatico.ca. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cseal%40sympatico.ca Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as cseal at sympatico.ca. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cseal%40sympatico.ca Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Automating the import of multi-page PDFs
Wow. Quick response! I've read the responses, and obviously I have to clarify a few things. Note: This is a short contract in which I have already finished several collections that were started by others, and in which the FM book had been set up, and individual documents had been text filled and partially formatted. I now have to start on the next and final collection from scratch, and that is why I am investigating other methods. It seems to me that the previous writers had copied text from the WP original and pasted it into the FM document. The clue is that sometimes the last character or word missing from a paragraph, as if the mouse slipped during the selection. By the way, the collections end up being around 700 pages each, and there is an English version and a separate French version of each collection. 1. The final document that contains the collection of reports has a few original chapters of front and back matter such as covers, an introduction to the collection, and an index. 2. The reports have already been published as individual documents. 3. The reports are the signed-off, accepted, and tabled product of a government commission. That is why the collection has to reflect the original accurately, which means, for example, any errors (e.g. spelling)cannot be fixed. No editing or format changes are permitted. 4. The individual reports have the same organizational structure as each other but, because there were many commissioners, writers, editors, and lawyers involved in the creation of the original reports, there are individual 'variations' (inconsistencies) in text elements such as lists. For example I've had to handle lists that are completely Arabic numbered, even sublists and subsublists of the same list. 5. My saving grace is that once published the collection will never be edited or reused! Which helps immensely because... 6. ...nearly all elements carry overrides to make them look like the original. I've had to perform other tricks like making table footnotes in FM look like the table footnotes in WP. (Honestly, I couldn't find a way to change the way FM does table footnotes.) And balancing pages to make footnotes appear on the same page as the referring number has been a pain. So, in case I can do it quicker than copying and pasting text, I wanted to know if there is an automated way of importing PDF into FM (some reports can have around 100 pages). I like the process that Richard Combs described, and I will experiment with this - but it sounds mind numbing for sure. I will also have to compose a hard TOC. I have already tested if a PDF imported into a FM document, which is then published as a PDF, is searchable (another requirement). It is. Thanks to all of you who responded. I hope my post above more clearly shows what I am doing. It has been an interesting gig, and is the first time (40 years in tech pubs!) I've not worked in an engineering environment. So it's plain 'pubs' now, which is where I'm heading soon. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Automating the import of multi-page PDFs
Wow. Quick response! I've read the responses, and obviously I have to clarify a few things. Note: This is a short contract in which I have already finished several collections that were started by others, and in which the FM book had been set up, and individual documents had been text filled and partially formatted. I now have to start on the next and final collection from scratch, and that is why I am investigating other methods. It seems to me that the previous writers had copied text from the WP original and pasted it into the FM document. The clue is that sometimes the last character or word missing from a paragraph, as if the mouse slipped during the selection. By the way, the collections end up being around 700 pages each, and there is an English version and a separate French version of each collection. 1. The final document that contains the collection of reports has a few original chapters of front and back matter such as covers, an introduction to the collection, and an index. 2. The reports have already been published as individual documents. 3. The reports are the signed-off, accepted, and tabled product of a government commission. That is why the collection has to reflect the original accurately, which means, for example, any errors (e.g. spelling)cannot be fixed. No editing or format changes are permitted. 4. The individual reports have the same organizational structure as each other but, because there were many commissioners, writers, editors, and lawyers involved in the creation of the original reports, there are individual 'variations' (inconsistencies) in text elements such as lists. For example I've had to handle lists that are completely Arabic numbered, even sublists and subsublists of the same list. 5. My saving grace is that once published the collection will never be edited or reused! Which helps immensely because... 6. ...nearly all elements carry overrides to make them look like the original. I've had to perform other tricks like making table footnotes in FM look like the table footnotes in WP. (Honestly, I couldn't find a way to change the way FM does table footnotes.) And balancing pages to make footnotes appear on the same page as the referring number has been a pain. So, in case I can do it quicker than copying and pasting text, I wanted to know if there is an automated way of importing PDF into FM (some reports can have around 100 pages). I like the process that Richard Combs described, and I will experiment with this - but it sounds mind numbing for sure. I will also have to compose a hard TOC. I have already tested if a PDF imported into a FM document, which is then published as a PDF, is searchable (another requirement). It is. Thanks to all of you who responded. I hope my post above more clearly shows what I am doing. It has been an interesting gig, and is the first time (40 years in tech pubs!) I've not worked in an engineering environment. So it's plain 'pubs' now, which is where I'm heading soon.
Opening FM7.2 files in FM6 - is it possible?
I cannot open unstructured files created in FM7.2 in FM6+SGML. Is this correct? If not, is there anything I can do to open the files in FM6? I have to work from home today (transit strike!) and brought the FM7.2 files home on a memory stick. I wish I had brought the files in MIF - I guess that might have worked. Too late now. Regards.Chris ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Opening FM7.2 files in FM6 - is it possible?
I cannot open unstructured files created in FM7.2 in FM6+SGML. Is this correct? If not, is there anything I can do to open the files in FM6? I have to work from home today (transit strike!) and brought the FM7.2 files home on a memory stick. I wish I had brought the files in MIF - I guess that might have worked. Too late now. Regards.Chris
