FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

[Megha Chaitanya]

Hi Tammy,



The patch has been successfully applied on your client's PC.
To verify that the update is installed, check the Version column in the Add or 
Remove Program tool. When the update is successfully installed, the Version of 
FrameMaker is updated to 10.0.3.419.
When you apply updates, the product version is NOT updated in the About 
FrameMaker screen. (Help > About FrameMaker will show 10.0.2.419)
Pls. refer to 
http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cant-launch-framemaker-10.html for details.
Regards,
Megha






-Original Message-
From: Tammy Van Boening [mailto:tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:33 AM
To: 'Tammy Van Boening'; Kapil Verma; 'de Rouck, Tom (Gent)'; framers at 
lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")



In response to an offlist question:



I have no idea what version of FM that I had on my desktop and laptop before

I ran the first fix provided this morning. After running this first fix, the

version for both installations is now set to 10.0.2.



For my client's virtual PC, I ran the first fix simply so I could open FM

and determine the version. After the first fix, it was 10.0.1 so I ran the

version of the second fix (the one for FM 1.0.1) for this virtual PC. During

the running of the second fix, flyover text opens that states something

about installing 10.0.3 of FM (note the .3); however, after running this

second fix, the version of FM on the laptop now is set to 10.0.2 - So, it's

not .3 and somehow, the first fix got me to .2 even though it took two fixes

to get my client's PC to that.



I give and I don't want to take the chance of screwing something up by

running a not needed second fix - as per Brad Anderson's email just a few

moments ago.



It's like Russian roulette with FM fixes right about now.



TVB



-Original Message-

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening

Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 12:11 PM

To: 'Kapil Verma'; 'de Rouck, Tom (Gent)'; framers at lists.frameusers.com

Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")



Kapil and all,



I ran the first utility provided earlier. My version of FM is 10.0.2, and I

see on your second solution that the utilities are for 10.0 and 10.0.1.

Should I run this second utility or not (specifically the version for

10.0.1)?



TVB



-Original Message-

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kapil Verma

Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:56 AM

To: de Rouck, Tom (Gent); framers at lists.frameusers.com

Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")



Dear All,



Update #2: We have released an update on FM10 and this should address the

problem for all users. Please download and install this important update.

For details, please visit my original blog post (link below) and look at the

Update # 2 section for instructions on how to install this update.



http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framemaker-10

-not-launching.html



We hope that this will solve the issue for all of our users who were

impacted.



Regards,

Kapil Verma

Sr. Product Manager - FrameMaker line of products





-Original Message-

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of de Rouck, Tom

(Gent)

Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 2:40 PM

To: framers at lists.frameusers.com

Subject: Re: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

Importance: High



Dear Anjaneai,



Is there a solution yet?

As Shlomo, I tried your suggested solution 1 and 2 without success. Again,

just like Shlomo, I don't want to try solution 3.

Just as a note: simply setting the date back to 2012 makes the license issue

disappear. But this is something I can do as I have admin rights on my PC.

What can I do for all my colleagues that are getting back from holidays

today, need Framemaker 10 and don't have admin rights??



Happy New Year to all Framers!



Kind regards,

Tom



Tom De Rouck

SGS Documentation Services

Junior Project Manager











Message: 4

Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 16:16:50 +0530

From: Anjaneai S 

To: Shlomo Perets 

Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com, techshoret at yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

Message-ID:

  

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



Hi Shlomo,



First of all, a very Happy New Year to all dear Framers!



Can you please try the steps suggested here -

http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/error-licensing-product-expired-cs4

.html



Also, please go to start - run - launch - services.msc and look for 'Flexnet

Licensing Service' and restart/start the service.



Please share me your findings.



Good luck!



Thanks,

Anjaneai

On Jan 1, 2013 3:06 PM, "Shlomo P

on Adobe site: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired"

[Megha Chaitanya]

Hi Bill,

You should use "Run as Administrator" to execute FM10_LicenseUpdater patch , 
then this error will not come.
Since 10.0.3 patch is available, you can apply this patch directly , which is a 
superset . It is available at  
http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cant-launch-framemaker-10.html

Regards,
Megha

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of William W. Saylor, PE
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:05 PM
To: 'Lebbink, Belinda'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: on Adobe site: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired"

My experience:

Zipfile Did NOT work on 64-bit, Windows 7, FM10. Error message is "Could not 
update FrameMaker 10 license: attempt to write a readonly Database". Which 
database file is it so I can change properties?

Thanks,

Bill


From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lebbink, Belinda
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:47 AM
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: FIX: on Adobe site: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired"

Hello,

First the best wishes for you all.

I've got the same problem, but there is a better and quicker solution than 
manupilating data.
The problem is known by Adobe and they working on it.
It has something to do with the CS5 license.

The blog with the link to fixed this: 
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framemaker-10-not-launching.html

Good luck.

With kind regards,

Belinda Lebbink

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FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

[Megha Chaitanya]

You can apply this patch ,it is a superset . It is available at  
http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cant-launch-framemaker-10.html  .

1. Go to Add and Remove Programs.

2. Look for " Name" and "Version" fields for FrameMaker 10 entry.

3. If the name says "Adobe FrameMaker 10" and Version says "10.0.0.388" or 
"10.0.1.402" or "10.0.2.419"pls. download TCS3Update.zip file,  unzip it and 
run the executable.

4. Otherwise, if the name says "Adobe FrameMaker 10.0.1" and version says 
"10.0.1.408" or 10.0.2.419" download TCS3_5Update.zip, unzip it and run the 
executable.

Regards,
Megha
Adobe FrameMaker


-Original Message-
From: Tammy Van Boening [mailto:tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 12:41 AM
To: Kapil Verma; 'de Rouck, Tom (Gent)'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

Kapil and all,

I ran the first utility provided earlier. My version of FM is 10.0.2, and I
see on your second solution that the utilities are for 10.0 and 10.0.1.
Should I run this second utility or not (specifically the version for
10.0.1)?

TVB

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kapil Verma
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:56 AM
To: de Rouck, Tom (Gent); framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

Dear All,

Update #2: We have released an update on FM10 and this should address the
problem for all users. Please download and install this important update.
For details, please visit my original blog post (link below) and look at the
Update # 2 section for instructions on how to install this update.

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framemaker-10
-not-launching.html

We hope that this will solve the issue for all of our users who were
impacted.

Regards,
Kapil Verma
Sr. Product Manager - FrameMaker line of products


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of de Rouck, Tom
(Gent)
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 2:40 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")
Importance: High

Dear Anjaneai,

Is there a solution yet?
As Shlomo, I tried your suggested solution 1 and 2 without success. Again,
just like Shlomo, I don't want to try solution 3.
Just as a note: simply setting the date back to 2012 makes the license issue
disappear. But this is something I can do as I have admin rights on my PC.
What can I do for all my colleagues that are getting back from holidays
today, need Framemaker 10 and don't have admin rights??

Happy New Year to all Framers!

Kind regards,
Tom

Tom De Rouck
SGS Documentation Services
Junior Project Manager





Message: 4
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 16:16:50 +0530
From: Anjaneai S 
To: Shlomo Perets 
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com, techshoret at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Shlomo,

First of all, a very Happy New Year to all dear Framers!

Can you please try the steps suggested here -
http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/error-licensing-product-expired-cs4
.html

Also, please go to start - run - launch - services.msc and look for 'Flexnet
Licensing Service' and restart/start the service.

Please share me your findings.

Good luck!

Thanks,
Anjaneai
On Jan 1, 2013 3:06 PM, "Shlomo Perets"  wrote:

>
> As of this morning, when starting FM10 a message indicating "licensing
> expired" shows up, and the program would not run.
> (likely related to the change of year -- best wishes for 2013!)
>
> Other FM10 users in different locations encountered a similar problem.
>
> The Adobe chat representative suggested contacting Adobe tech support
> by phone, where I (expectedly) got a "closed for the holiday" message.
>
> FM11, FM9 and FM8 do start as expected.
>
>
> Shlomo Perets
>
> MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
> FrameMaker/Acrobat/Captivate training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat
> TimeSavers/Assistants
>
>
> ___

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Company.
Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the
presence of viruses. The Company accepts no liability for any damage caused
by any virus transmitted by this email.
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Y

RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

[Megha Chaitanya]

Hi Tammy,



The patch has been successfully applied on your client's PC.
To verify that the update is installed, check the Version column in the Add or 
Remove Program tool. When the update is successfully installed, the Version of 
FrameMaker is updated to 10.0.3.419.
When you apply updates, the product version is NOT updated in the About 
FrameMaker screen. (Help > About FrameMaker will show 10.0.2.419)
Pls. refer to 
http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cant-launch-framemaker-10.html for details.
Regards,
Megha






-Original Message-
From: Tammy Van Boening [mailto:tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:33 AM
To: 'Tammy Van Boening'; Kapil Verma; 'de Rouck, Tom (Gent)'; 
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")



In response to an offlist question:



I have no idea what version of FM that I had on my desktop and laptop before

I ran the first fix provided this morning. After running this first fix, the

version for both installations is now set to 10.0.2.



For my client's virtual PC, I ran the first fix simply so I could open FM

and determine the version. After the first fix, it was 10.0.1 so I ran the

version of the second fix (the one for FM 1.0.1) for this virtual PC. During

the running of the second fix, flyover text opens that states something

about installing 10.0.3 of FM (note the .3); however, after running this

second fix, the version of FM on the laptop now is set to 10.0.2 - So, it's

not .3 and somehow, the first fix got me to .2 even though it took two fixes

to get my client's PC to that.



I give and I don't want to take the chance of screwing something up by

running a not needed second fix - as per Brad Anderson's email just a few

moments ago.



It's like Russian roulette with FM fixes right about now.



TVB



-Original Message-

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening

Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 12:11 PM

To: 'Kapil Verma'; 'de Rouck, Tom (Gent)'; framers@lists.frameusers.com

Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")



Kapil and all,



I ran the first utility provided earlier. My version of FM is 10.0.2, and I

see on your second solution that the utilities are for 10.0 and 10.0.1.

Should I run this second utility or not (specifically the version for

10.0.1)?



TVB



-Original Message-

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kapil Verma

Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:56 AM

To: de Rouck, Tom (Gent); framers@lists.frameusers.com

Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")



Dear All,



Update #2: We have released an update on FM10 and this should address the

problem for all users. Please download and install this important update.

For details, please visit my original blog post (link below) and look at the

Update # 2 section for instructions on how to install this update.



http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framemaker-10

-not-launching.html



We hope that this will solve the issue for all of our users who were

impacted.



Regards,

Kapil Verma

Sr. Product Manager - FrameMaker line of products





-Original Message-

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of de Rouck, Tom

(Gent)

Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 2:40 PM

To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Subject: Re: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

Importance: High



Dear Anjaneai,



Is there a solution yet?

As Shlomo, I tried your suggested solution 1 and 2 without success. Again,

just like Shlomo, I don't want to try solution 3.

Just as a note: simply setting the date back to 2012 makes the license issue

disappear. But this is something I can do as I have admin rights on my PC.

What can I do for all my colleagues that are getting back from holidays

today, need Framemaker 10 and don't have admin rights??



Happy New Year to all Framers!



Kind regards,

Tom



Tom De Rouck

SGS Documentation Services

Junior Project Manager











Message: 4

Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 16:16:50 +0530

From: Anjaneai S 

To: Shlomo Perets 

Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com, techsho...@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

Message-ID:

  

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



Hi Shlomo,



First of all, a very Happy New Year to all dear Framers!



Can you please try the steps suggested here -

http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/error-licensing-product-expired-cs4

.html



Also, please go to start - run - launch - services.msc and look for 'Flexnet

Licensing Service' and restart/start the service.



Please share me your findings.



Good luck!



Thanks,

Anjaneai

On Jan 1, 2013 3:06 PM, "Shlomo Perets"  wrote:



>

> As o

RE: on Adobe site: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired"

[Megha Chaitanya]

Hi Bill,

You should use "Run as Administrator" to execute FM10_LicenseUpdater patch , 
then this error will not come.
Since 10.0.3 patch is available, you can apply this patch directly , which is a 
superset . It is available at  
http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cant-launch-framemaker-10.html

Regards,
Megha

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of William W. Saylor, PE
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:05 PM
To: 'Lebbink, Belinda'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: on Adobe site: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired"

My experience:

Zipfile Did NOT work on 64-bit, Windows 7, FM10. Error message is "Could not 
update FrameMaker 10 license: attempt to write a readonly Database". Which 
database file is it so I can change properties?

Thanks,

Bill


From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lebbink, Belinda
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:47 AM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: FIX: on Adobe site: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired"

Hello,

First the best wishes for you all.

I've got the same problem, but there is a better and quicker solution than 
manupilating data.
The problem is known by Adobe and they working on it.
It has something to do with the CS5 license.

The blog with the link to fixed this: 
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framemaker-10-not-launching.html

Good luck.

With kind regards,

Belinda Lebbink

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RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

[Megha Chaitanya]

You can apply this patch ,it is a superset . It is available at  
http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cant-launch-framemaker-10.html  .

1. Go to Add and Remove Programs.

2. Look for " Name" and "Version" fields for FrameMaker 10 entry.

3. If the name says "Adobe FrameMaker 10" and Version says "10.0.0.388" or 
"10.0.1.402" or "10.0.2.419"pls. download TCS3Update.zip file,  unzip it and 
run the executable.

4. Otherwise, if the name says "Adobe FrameMaker 10.0.1" and version says 
"10.0.1.408" or 10.0.2.419" download TCS3_5Update.zip, unzip it and run the 
executable.

Regards,
Megha
Adobe FrameMaker


-Original Message-
From: Tammy Van Boening [mailto:tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 12:41 AM
To: Kapil Verma; 'de Rouck, Tom (Gent)'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

Kapil and all,

I ran the first utility provided earlier. My version of FM is 10.0.2, and I
see on your second solution that the utilities are for 10.0 and 10.0.1.
Should I run this second utility or not (specifically the version for
10.0.1)?

TVB

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kapil Verma
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:56 AM
To: de Rouck, Tom (Gent); framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

Dear All,

Update #2: We have released an update on FM10 and this should address the
problem for all users. Please download and install this important update.
For details, please visit my original blog post (link below) and look at the
Update # 2 section for instructions on how to install this update.

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framemaker-10
-not-launching.html

We hope that this will solve the issue for all of our users who were
impacted.

Regards,
Kapil Verma
Sr. Product Manager - FrameMaker line of products


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of de Rouck, Tom
(Gent)
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 2:40 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")
Importance: High

Dear Anjaneai,

Is there a solution yet?
As Shlomo, I tried your suggested solution 1 and 2 without success. Again,
just like Shlomo, I don't want to try solution 3.
Just as a note: simply setting the date back to 2012 makes the license issue
disappear. But this is something I can do as I have admin rights on my PC.
What can I do for all my colleagues that are getting back from holidays
today, need Framemaker 10 and don't have admin rights??

Happy New Year to all Framers!

Kind regards,
Tom

Tom De Rouck
SGS Documentation Services
Junior Project Manager





Message: 4
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 16:16:50 +0530
From: Anjaneai S 
To: Shlomo Perets 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com, techsho...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Shlomo,

First of all, a very Happy New Year to all dear Framers!

Can you please try the steps suggested here -
http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/error-licensing-product-expired-cs4
.html

Also, please go to start - run - launch - services.msc and look for 'Flexnet
Licensing Service' and restart/start the service.

Please share me your findings.

Good luck!

Thanks,
Anjaneai
On Jan 1, 2013 3:06 PM, "Shlomo Perets"  wrote:

>
> As of this morning, when starting FM10 a message indicating "licensing
> expired" shows up, and the program would not run.
> (likely related to the change of year -- best wishes for 2013!)
>
> Other FM10 users in different locations encountered a similar problem.
>
> The Adobe chat representative suggested contacting Adobe tech support
> by phone, where I (expectedly) got a "closed for the holiday" message.
>
> FM11, FM9 and FM8 do start as expected.
>
>
> Shlomo Perets
>
> MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
> FrameMaker/Acrobat/Captivate training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat
> TimeSavers/Assistants
>
>
> ___

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solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed or otherwise
directed. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are
solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the
Company.
Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the
presence of viruses. The Company accepts no liability for any damage caused
by any virus transmitted by this email.
All SGS services are rendered in accordance with the applicable SGS
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Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

[Megha Chaitanya]

Acrobat Reader XI supports full set of commeting tools. So, if the reviewers 
have Acrobat Reader XI, you don't need Acrobat professional point product nor 
TCS to enable commeting in PDF.

If reviewers are using Acrobat Reader X or less, you need either Acrobat 
Professional point product or TCS to enable commenting in PDF.

If you have FrameMaker point product and Acrobat 11 Reader :

1. Generate PDF for review using File->Save as PDF option. Make sure to  turn 
ON "Generate PDF for review" option in PDF setup dialog.
2. Ask reviewers to give comments using Acrobat Reader XI.
3. Import the comments in FrameMaker document using File->Import->PDF Comments.


If you have FrameMaker point product and Acrobat Professional point product :

1. Generate PDF for review using File->Save as PDF option. Make sure to  turn 
ON "Generate PDF for review" option in PDF setup dialog.
2. Open PDF in Acrobat Professional point product and save as ubiquitous PDF.
3. Ask reviewers to give comments on PDF generated in step 2 using Acrobat 
Reader.
4. Import the comments in FrameMaker document using File->Import->PDF Comments.

If you have TCS :
1. Directly from FrameMaker interface, you can generate ubiquitous PDF to 
enable commenting in PDF, or share PDF on acrobat.com to enable shared review.
2. Ask reviewers to give comments on PDF generated in step 2 using Acrobat 
Reader.
3. Import the comments in FrameMaker document using File->Import->PDF Comments.

Regards,
Megha Chaitanya
Adobe FrameMaker 

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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 6:17 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

Of course not - they want you to buy the suite; what incentive would there be 
if you got all the features with the point products?

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 1:04 AM
To: Combs, Richard; Harpreet Singh Seehra; Robert Lauriston; framers at 
lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

Interesting ... thanks for the response, Richard!

And I don't know about all of you all, but I strongly, *strongly* want any such 
"special plumbing" to be functional in the standalone purchased versions of 
FrameMaker and Acrobat Pro. (I simply don't want to get onto the much more 
costly TCS purchase/upgrade path - I do *not* need the other tools in that 
product and do not want to pay for them - I have enough trouble justifying my 
FrameMaker purchases now that the upgrade prices have gone up so much in the 
past few years.)

I *do* want the integration between FrameMaker and Acrobat Pro to be as 
good/perfect as possible. That is why I continue to justify, buy and upgrade 
the [expensive] Adobe Acrobat Pro product rather than just live with one of the 
many inexpensive "PDF printer" solutions that are available - heck, as I 
recall, one such PDF printer is included in my "PDF Convertor Pro" software 
(which I currently only use to convert from PDF to Word and Excel files).

Since I always have to perform some common manual actions every time I generate 
a PDF (since not everything "comes across" from FrameMaker), if the integration 
could be better, then that is important to me!

Harpreet, can you please provide me with Adobe's response and position here? 
What are the exact differences and why are they not in the stand-alone 
versions? Can Adobe release an update (perhaps a "connector" program similar to 
what is in TCS) for people who own FrameMaker *and* Acrobat Pro, but don't own 
TCS? Shouldn't this standard in the Acrobat Pro package for it to install this 
integration if a copy of FrameMaker is also installed on the system?

Thanks,

Z

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:16 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Harpreet Singh Seehra; Robert 
Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

> Aren't the features/capabilities of FrameMaker and Acrobat Pro as 
> stand-alone products not *exactly* the same as they are in TCS? Isn't 
> TCS simply a packaged-cost bundle of some Adobe products (that 
> includes FrameMaker and Acrobat - assuming that the versions are the same)?

I can't say regarding Acrobat, but for FM that hasn't been the case for any 
version of TCS. The TCS versions of FM and RoboHelp have "special plumbing" to 
make FM-RH integration work. I suspect that similar "special plumbing&q

RE: Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

[Megha Chaitanya]

Acrobat Reader XI supports full set of commeting tools. So, if the reviewers 
have Acrobat Reader XI, you don't need Acrobat professional point product nor 
TCS to enable commeting in PDF.

If reviewers are using Acrobat Reader X or less, you need either Acrobat 
Professional point product or TCS to enable commenting in PDF.

If you have FrameMaker point product and Acrobat 11 Reader :

1. Generate PDF for review using File->Save as PDF option. Make sure to  turn 
ON "Generate PDF for review" option in PDF setup dialog.
2. Ask reviewers to give comments using Acrobat Reader XI.
3. Import the comments in FrameMaker document using File->Import->PDF Comments.


If you have FrameMaker point product and Acrobat Professional point product :

1. Generate PDF for review using File->Save as PDF option. Make sure to  turn 
ON "Generate PDF for review" option in PDF setup dialog.
2. Open PDF in Acrobat Professional point product and save as ubiquitous PDF.
3. Ask reviewers to give comments on PDF generated in step 2 using Acrobat 
Reader.
4. Import the comments in FrameMaker document using File->Import->PDF Comments.

If you have TCS :
1. Directly from FrameMaker interface, you can generate ubiquitous PDF to 
enable commenting in PDF, or share PDF on acrobat.com to enable shared review.
2. Ask reviewers to give comments on PDF generated in step 2 using Acrobat 
Reader.
3. Import the comments in FrameMaker document using File->Import->PDF Comments.

Regards,
Megha Chaitanya
Adobe FrameMaker 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 6:17 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

Of course not - they want you to buy the suite; what incentive would there be 
if you got all the features with the point products?

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain 
(syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 1:04 AM
To: Combs, Richard; Harpreet Singh Seehra; Robert Lauriston; 
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

Interesting ... thanks for the response, Richard!

And I don't know about all of you all, but I strongly, *strongly* want any such 
"special plumbing" to be functional in the standalone purchased versions of 
FrameMaker and Acrobat Pro. (I simply don't want to get onto the much more 
costly TCS purchase/upgrade path - I do *not* need the other tools in that 
product and do not want to pay for them - I have enough trouble justifying my 
FrameMaker purchases now that the upgrade prices have gone up so much in the 
past few years.)

I *do* want the integration between FrameMaker and Acrobat Pro to be as 
good/perfect as possible. That is why I continue to justify, buy and upgrade 
the [expensive] Adobe Acrobat Pro product rather than just live with one of the 
many inexpensive "PDF printer" solutions that are available - heck, as I 
recall, one such PDF printer is included in my "PDF Convertor Pro" software 
(which I currently only use to convert from PDF to Word and Excel files).

Since I always have to perform some common manual actions every time I generate 
a PDF (since not everything "comes across" from FrameMaker), if the integration 
could be better, then that is important to me!

Harpreet, can you please provide me with Adobe's response and position here? 
What are the exact differences and why are they not in the stand-alone 
versions? Can Adobe release an update (perhaps a "connector" program similar to 
what is in TCS) for people who own FrameMaker *and* Acrobat Pro, but don't own 
TCS? Shouldn't this standard in the Acrobat Pro package for it to install this 
integration if a copy of FrameMaker is also installed on the system?

Thanks,

Z

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:16 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Harpreet Singh Seehra; Robert 
Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
 
> Aren't the features/capabilities of FrameMaker and Acrobat Pro as 
> stand-alone products not *exactly* the same as they are in TCS? Isn't 
> TCS simply a packaged-cost bundle of some Adobe products (that 
> includes FrameMaker and Acrobat - assuming that the versions are the same)?

I can't say regarding Acrobat, but for FM that hasn't been the case for any 
version of TCS. The TCS versions of FM and RoboHelp have "special plumbing" to 
make FM-RH integration work. I suspect that similar "special plumbing" has now 
been

Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

[Megha Chaitanya]

Hi Deanna,

One need not change the FrameMaker files manually, but one can import the 
comments to FrameMaker file using File->Import->PDF Comments. PDF comments will 
come as track text edits in the FrameMaker document. One can use Track Text 
Edit toolbar to go through each comment and take action of accept/reject on 
them. Pls. refer to this blog 
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2011/05/handling-pdf-review-comments-in-framemaker.html
 which talks in detail about the FrameMaker review workflow.

Acrobat Reader XI supports full set of commeting tools. So, if the reviewers 
have Acrobat Reader XI, you don't need Acrobat professional to enable commeting 
in PDF. However, you need Acrobat professional to enable commenting ,if 
reviewers are using Acrobat Reader X or below.

Regards,
Megha
Adobe FrameMaker


From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deanna Korth
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:18 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

Hi,

We are migrating from FrameMaker 7.2 to FrameMaker 11. In our current workflow, 
we create a PDF file and use Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional to enable 
commenting in it so that reviewers who don't have FrameMaker can electronically 
review and comment on our FrameMaker documents. We then merge the electronic 
comments into the PDF file and manually change the FrameMaker files accordingly.

For FrameMaker 11, Adobe advertises, "Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip 
reviews." I've searched, but I can't find how these types of reviews are 
implemented. Can you briefly explain how this feature works? Mainly I want to 
know if we need to purchase Adobe Acrobat Professional X to retain our ability 
to solicit electronic reviews from reviewers who don't have FrameMaker or if 
the need for Acrobat Professional is eliminated by this feature in FrameMaker 
11.

Thanks,

Deanna.
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RE: Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

[Megha Chaitanya]

Hi Deanna,

One need not change the FrameMaker files manually, but one can import the 
comments to FrameMaker file using File->Import->PDF Comments. PDF comments will 
come as track text edits in the FrameMaker document. One can use Track Text 
Edit toolbar to go through each comment and take action of accept/reject on 
them. Pls. refer to this blog 
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2011/05/handling-pdf-review-comments-in-framemaker.html
 which talks in detail about the FrameMaker review workflow.

Acrobat Reader XI supports full set of commeting tools. So, if the reviewers 
have Acrobat Reader XI, you don't need Acrobat professional to enable commeting 
in PDF. However, you need Acrobat professional to enable commenting ,if 
reviewers are using Acrobat Reader X or below.

Regards,
Megha
Adobe FrameMaker


From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deanna Korth
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:18 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

Hi,

We are migrating from FrameMaker 7.2 to FrameMaker 11. In our current workflow, 
we create a PDF file and use Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional to enable 
commenting in it so that reviewers who don't have FrameMaker can electronically 
review and comment on our FrameMaker documents. We then merge the electronic 
comments into the PDF file and manually change the FrameMaker files accordingly.

For FrameMaker 11, Adobe advertises, "Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip 
reviews." I've searched, but I can't find how these types of reviews are 
implemented. Can you briefly explain how this feature works? Mainly I want to 
know if we need to purchase Adobe Acrobat Professional X to retain our ability 
to solicit electronic reviews from reviewers who don't have FrameMaker or if 
the need for Acrobat Professional is eliminated by this feature in FrameMaker 
11.

Thanks,

Deanna.
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finding copied graphics

[Megha Chaitanya]

In FrameMaker 9.0, one can use View->Pods->Insets to view a list of graphics 
and/or text insets in your document/open chapters of book. For the copied 
graphics, 'referenced file' field of the POD will contain value 'no file'. 

Regards,
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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:56 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: finding copied graphics

Hi
Normally I insert all graphics into a documemt by reference. Before I
send the manual for translation I would like to verify that I have not
copied any graphics into the file.

Do you have a way to find copied graphics in a framemaker file?

Best regards,

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RE: finding copied graphics

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In FrameMaker 9.0, one can use View->Pods->Insets to view a list of graphics 
and/or text insets in your document/open chapters of book. For the copied 
graphics, 'referenced file' field of the POD will contain value 'no file'. 

Regards,
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Engell VEA
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:56 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: finding copied graphics

Hi
Normally I insert all graphics into a documemt by reference. Before I
send the manual for translation I would like to verify that I have not
copied any graphics into the file.
 
Do you have a way to find copied graphics in a framemaker file?
 
Best regards,
 
Verner Andersen




Radiometer Medical ApS 
Akandevej 21 
2700 Bronshoj 
Denmark 
Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
CVR: 27 50 91 85 
 


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Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

[Megha Chaitanya]

* I work for Adobe*

Hi Jim,

I am not able to reproduce the issue. What workspace are you using? Can you 
send me the frame file and steps which you are performing?

Regards,
Megha


-Original Message-
From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:00 AM
To: Megha Chaitanya; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

Hi, Megha,

FWIW and to add what may be a slightly new wrinkle to #2: I'm using FM 9
in TCS 2, with the latest patch, and XP SP 2, and I find that when I
toggle in and out of the UI that I do not come back to the spot in the
chapter where I was working. Instead, I land at the end of the chapter
and have to find my way back. Any suggestions?

Jim


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Megha
Chaitanya
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:11 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues


Hi Oran,

Regarding your points, 

1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 


 To add a tab stop, click a tab stop symbol from Paragraph Format
toolbar and click the desired position below the top ruler. Refer to
FrameMaker 9 user guide , page 43.


2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 

 To change the screen mode :
-> Right click on the grey area outside document window, then choose
Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.
->You can use the following keyboard shortcuts :
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.  
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.


Regards,
Megha 

--

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:50:07 + (UTC)
From: Oran Petersen 
Subject: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:

<1081429083.7173841237665007668.JavaMail.root at sz0127a.emeryville.ca.mail
.comcast.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8




I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent
in how it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and
trial & error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to
update it for the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on the splash screen and "File>History" I
find expected behavior both before and after installing the patch. Seems
to work OK for me. 

Oran Petersen 



--

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:05:45 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "Oran Petersen" ,

Message-ID: <065D5B78791A4CE08D58120A4FD9A21B at plecopress>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original

> 2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select "Full Screen Mode" the 

RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

[Megha Chaitanya]

* I work for Adobe*

Hi Jim,

I am not able to reproduce the issue. What workspace are you using? Can you 
send me the frame file and steps which you are performing?

Regards,
Megha


-Original Message-
From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:00 AM
To: Megha Chaitanya; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

Hi, Megha,

FWIW and to add what may be a slightly new wrinkle to #2: I'm using FM 9
in TCS 2, with the latest patch, and XP SP 2, and I find that when I
toggle in and out of the UI that I do not come back to the spot in the
chapter where I was working. Instead, I land at the end of the chapter
and have to find my way back. Any suggestions?

Jim


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Megha
Chaitanya
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:11 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues


Hi Oran,

Regarding your points, 

1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 


 To add a tab stop, click a tab stop symbol from Paragraph Format
toolbar and click the desired position below the top ruler. Refer to
FrameMaker 9 user guide , page 43.


2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 

 To change the screen mode :
-> Right click on the grey area outside document window, then choose
Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.
->You can use the following keyboard shortcuts :
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.  
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.


Regards,
Megha 

--

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:50:07 + (UTC)
From: Oran Petersen 
Subject: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:

<1081429083.7173841237665007668.javamail.r...@sz0127a.emeryville.ca.mail
.comcast.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8




I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent
in how it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and
trial & error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to
update it for the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on the splash screen and "File>History" I
find expected behavior both before and after installing the patch. Seems
to work OK for me. 

Oran Petersen 



--

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:05:45 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "Oran Petersen" ,

Message-ID: <065d5b78791a4ce08d58120a4fd9a...@plecopress>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original

> 2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select "Full Screen Mode" the 
>

Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

[Megha Chaitanya]

Hi Oran,

Regarding your points, 

1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On earlier 
versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While I can move 
existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the icons. The tab 
icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything through dragging, 
double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in the paragraph designer 
flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else happens . 


 To add a tab stop, click a tab stop symbol from Paragraph Format 
toolbar and click the desired position below the top ruler. Refer to FrameMaker 
9 user guide , page 43.


2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of that 
mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I 
cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and menu is gone of 
course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file gives you the menus 
back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though 
it is not. 

 To change the screen mode :
-> Right click on the grey area outside document window, then choose Toggle 
Screen Mode from the context menu.
->You can use the following keyboard shortcuts :
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.  
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.


Regards,
Megha 

--

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:50:07 + (UTC)
From: Oran Petersen 
Subject: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
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I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent in how 
it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and trial & 
error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to update it for 
the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On earlier 
versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While I can move 
existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the icons. The tab 
icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything through dragging, 
double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in the paragraph designer 
flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of that 
mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I 
cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and menu is gone of 
course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file gives you the menus 
back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though 
it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on the splash screen and "File>History" I find 
expected behavior both before and after installing the patch. Seems to work OK 
for me. 

Oran Petersen 



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:05:45 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "Oran Petersen" ,

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> 2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
> correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of 
> that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. 
> (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and 
> menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file 
> gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" 
> (checkmark) even though it is not.

Right-click, then choose Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.

wincmds.cfg lists these shortcuts:
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.
However, none of these shortucts works for me-- only the right-click and 
Toggle Screen Mode.

Mike Wickham




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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:13:38 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "Oran Petersen" ,

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> For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent in 
> h

RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

[Megha Chaitanya]

Hi Oran,

Regarding your points, 

1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On earlier 
versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While I can move 
existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the icons. The tab 
icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything through dragging, 
double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in the paragraph designer 
flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else happens . 


 To add a tab stop, click a tab stop symbol from Paragraph Format 
toolbar and click the desired position below the top ruler. Refer to FrameMaker 
9 user guide , page 43.


2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of that 
mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I 
cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and menu is gone of 
course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file gives you the menus 
back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though 
it is not. 

 To change the screen mode :
-> Right click on the grey area outside document window, then choose Toggle 
Screen Mode from the context menu.
->You can use the following keyboard shortcuts :
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.  
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.


Regards,
Megha 

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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:50:07 + (UTC)
From: Oran Petersen 
Subject: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
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I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent in how 
it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and trial & 
error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to update it for 
the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On earlier 
versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While I can move 
existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the icons. The tab 
icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything through dragging, 
double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in the paragraph designer 
flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of that 
mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I 
cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and menu is gone of 
course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file gives you the menus 
back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though 
it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on the splash screen and "File>History" I find 
expected behavior both before and after installing the patch. Seems to work OK 
for me. 

Oran Petersen 



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:05:45 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "Oran Petersen" ,

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> 2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
> correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of 
> that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. 
> (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and 
> menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file 
> gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" 
> (checkmark) even though it is not.

Right-click, then choose Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.

wincmds.cfg lists these shortcuts:
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.
However, none of these shortucts works for me-- only the right-click and 
Toggle Screen Mode.

Mike Wickham




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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:13:38 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "Oran Petersen" ,

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> For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent in 
> how i

FrameMaker 9 Recent File History Bug

[Megha Chaitanya]

Hi Mike,

I am not able to reproduce the issue. When one closes FrameMaker, it updates 
the recent file information in maker.ini placed in user area. Pls. try the 
following:

1. Delete maker.ini from the user area.
2 .Launch FrameMaker. This will copy maker.ini from install directory to user 
area.
3. Open some files.
4. Close FrameMaker. (This should update the make.ini in user area with recent 
files visited)
5. Launch FrameMaker again.

Does this display the recent files? If not, pls. check the maker.ini of the 
user area. Did this have updated in step 4?

Regards,
Megha

FrameMaker 9 Recent File History Bug

[Megha Chaitanya]

Hi Mike,

I am not able to reproduce the issue. When one closes FrameMaker, it updates 
the recent file information in maker.ini placed in user area. Pls. try the 
following:

1. Delete maker.ini from the user area.
2 .Launch FrameMaker. This will copy maker.ini from install directory to user 
area.
3. Open some files.
4. Close FrameMaker. (This should update the make.ini in user area with recent 
files visited)
5. Launch FrameMaker again.

Does this display the recent files? If not, pls. check the maker.ini of the 
user area. Did this have updated in step 4?

Regards,
Megha



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