Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?
I'm on the digest, so this reply might be out of sync with others. I convert Visio drawings to a windows metafile and import them by reference. I've never had a problem with that. Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:55:43 +1300 From: Alan Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz Subject: Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis? To: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com, or...@marvell.com Message-ID: 8da6ba3f-1c33-4830-89b1-df416cf63...@alphabyte.co.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I would second Richard's recommendation. I would also add that when I have printed Visio files to PDF in the past I often get strange printing problems show up (depending on the version of Visio). These have been lines that appear in the printed output, text that truncates or disappears, fonts that get lost, lines that don't print... Yes the file output filters in Visio are problematic, and the print engine seems to parse the file data in strange ways too. So I open the files in Illustrator and check that lines are lines and not skinny boxes, delete all the strange bounding boxes and masks that Visio creates, make certain that all the fonts are of the same variety and that text lines are long enough,... In general fix the errors that Visio creates. Then use the pdf in Frame and all is good thereafter. If there are a large number of files the process doesn't take as long as it sounds since most of the problems tend to be replicated in each of the files. Alan On 9/01/2009, at 9:42 AM, Combs, Richard wrote: Sent too soon. I also meant to recommend an alternative workflow for Orly. Instead of importing native Visio files as OLE objects (either linked or embedded), print the Visio files to PDF and import that into FM. I think that's a better solution than Art's suggestion of exporting to a graphics format -- Visio's export filters don't have a very good reputation, but it can certainly print to your Adobe PDF printer. Actually, if you have a recent version of Acrobat, and it was installed after Visio, you'll have Adobe's make PDF plugin in Visio. Importing PDF into FM works beautifully. You can probably even get away with embedding the PDFs instead of importing by reference -- the file size will probably be much, much smaller and imported PDF is light- years more stable than OLE objects. Whatever you choose to do, scrapping OLE will be a big improvement. HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Supply Chain Solutions 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?
I'm on the digest, so this reply might be out of sync with others. I convert Visio drawings to a windows metafile and import them by reference. I've never had a problem with that. Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:55:43 +1300 From: Alan Litchfield <a...@alphabyte.co.nz> Subject: Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis? To: "Combs, Richard" Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com, orlyz at marvell.com Message-ID: <8DA6BA3F-1C33-4830-89B1-DF416CF63ADB at alphabyte.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I would second Richard's recommendation. I would also add that when I have printed Visio files to PDF in the past I often get strange printing problems show up (depending on the version of Visio). These have been lines that appear in the printed output, text that truncates or disappears, fonts that get lost, lines that don't print... Yes the file output filters in Visio are problematic, and the print engine seems to parse the file data in strange ways too. So I open the files in Illustrator and check that lines are lines and not skinny boxes, delete all the strange bounding boxes and masks that Visio creates, make certain that all the fonts are of the same variety and that text lines are long enough,... In general fix the errors that Visio creates. Then use the pdf in Frame and all is good thereafter. If there are a large number of files the process doesn't take as long as it sounds since most of the problems tend to be replicated in each of the files. Alan On 9/01/2009, at 9:42 AM, Combs, Richard wrote: > Sent too soon. I also meant to recommend an alternative workflow for > Orly. Instead of importing native Visio files as OLE objects (either > linked or embedded), print the Visio files to PDF and import that into > FM. > > I think that's a better solution than Art's suggestion of exporting > to a > graphics format -- Visio's export filters don't have a very good > reputation, but it can certainly print to your Adobe PDF printer. > Actually, if you have a recent version of Acrobat, and it was > installed > after Visio, you'll have Adobe's "make PDF" plugin in Visio. > > Importing PDF into FM works beautifully. You can probably even get > away > with embedding the PDFs instead of importing by reference -- the file > size will probably be much, much smaller and imported PDF is light- > years > more stable than OLE objects. > > Whatever you choose to do, scrapping OLE will be a big improvement. > > HTH! > Richard > > > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Supply Chain Solutions 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238
Adobe Acrobat 8 and Frame 7.0
I noticed this response on the digest. I use Frame 7.0 and upgrading it will not happen any time soon. I'd like to upgrade Acrobat to version 8. Will I have similar problems using Acrobat 8 with Frame 7.0? Message: 5 Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:56:24 -0400 From: Alan Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat 8 To: Danny G Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com, Robert K Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yes. I find that I need to regularly (every few days) delete c:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and restart to avoid FrameMaker crashes and text drop-outs when generating PDF. (Windows XP, FM7.2 and 8, Acrobat 8 and Acrobat 3D). -Alan Danny G Green wrote: In June there was a posting about Acrobat 8 dropping pages, text, and words when produced from FrameMaker 7.2. Is anyone still having problems? Thanks Danny Green Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Supply Chain Solutions 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adobe Acrobat 8 and Frame 7.0
I noticed this response on the digest. I use Frame 7.0 and upgrading it will not happen any time soon. I'd like to upgrade Acrobat to version 8. Will I have similar problems using Acrobat 8 with Frame 7.0? Message: 5 Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:56:24 -0400 From: Alan Houser <a...@groupwellesley.com> Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat 8 To: Danny G Green Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com, Robert K Lane Message-ID: <46F70B38.9040606 at groupwellesley.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yes. I find that I need to regularly (every few days) delete c:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and restart to avoid FrameMaker crashes and text drop-outs when generating PDF. (Windows XP, FM7.2 and 8, Acrobat 8 and Acrobat 3D). -Alan Danny G Green wrote: > In June there was a posting about Acrobat 8 dropping pages, text, and > words when produced from FrameMaker 7.2. Is anyone still having > problems? > > Thanks > > Danny Green Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Supply Chain Solutions 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238
change bars -- how to turn off
Help! Does anyone know how to turn off change bars? They are appearing in a document that I am editing today. A few years ago, I used change bars on this file and removed all the bars. I edited this file a few months ago and they did not appear. Today, they appear. I looked at the Format / Change Bars dialog box, and Automatic Change Bars is not checked. I also tried removing the bar using Format / Style / Change Bars, but it has no effect. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Supply Chain Solutions 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
change bars -- how to turn off
Help! Does anyone know how to turn off change bars? They are appearing in a document that I am editing today. A few years ago, I used change bars on this file and removed all the bars. I edited this file a few months ago and they did not appear. Today, they appear. I looked at the Format / Change Bars dialog box, and Automatic Change Bars is not checked. I also tried removing the bar using Format / Style / Change Bars, but it has no effect. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Supply Chain Solutions 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238
Re: general publication quiestion
I publish in pdf and in printed formats. The people who read the pdf do indeed think that the empty left page is a mistake, even though it has a header and footer. In fact, they print from the pdf. So I changed the format to delete empty pages. I don't print often anymore, but when I do, I have to force some empty left pages in order to get the chapters on the right pages. Some day, if I convert to structured Framemaker, I'll just use a printing style sheet and save myself some time. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/18/2006 11:44 AM To: framers@frameusers.com cc: Subject:Re: general publication quiestion Too often readers will suspect that there was a printing error if there isn't SOME content on the page. Having headers and footers on the page with no text between them only makes this type of person even more prone to suspicion. Putting an Intentionally Blank notice on the page helps to reduce the number of calls to the Help Desk, if nothing else. If you don't like the paradox, you could simply reword it. Intentionally Devoid of Relevant Content or somesuch. --Doug On 10/18/06, Charles Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Because we have always used running headers and footers, and those appear on the page regardless of other content. This means that, if there is no other content, at least the header and footer are there as a clue to the reader that this page was intentionally left blank. No need to declare it; the running headers/footers declare it, in effect. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/carpentn%40genco.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
general publication quiestion
I publish in pdf and in printed formats. The people who read the pdf do indeed think that the empty left page is a mistake, even though it has a header and footer. In fact, they print from the pdf. So I changed the format to delete empty pages. I don't print often anymore, but when I do, I have to force some empty left pages in order to get the chapters on the right pages. Some day, if I convert to structured Framemaker, I'll just use a "printing" style sheet and save myself some time. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 Doug Sent by: framers-bounces+carpentn=genco.com at lists.frameusers.com 10/18/2006 11:44 AM To: framers at frameusers.com cc: Subject:Re: general publication quiestion Too often readers will suspect that there was a printing error if there isn't SOME content on the page. Having headers and footers on the page with no text between them only makes this type of person even more prone to suspicion. Putting an "Intentionally Blank" notice on the page helps to reduce the number of calls to the Help Desk, if nothing else. If you don't like the paradox, you could simply reword it. "Intentionally Devoid of Relevant Content" or somesuch. --Doug On 10/18/06, Charles Beck wrote: > Why? Because we have always used running headers and footers, and those > appear on the page regardless of other content. This means that, if > there is no other content, at least the header and footer are there as a > clue to the reader that "this page was intentionally left blank." No > need to declare it; the running headers/footers declare it, in effect. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as carpentn at genco.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/carpentn%40genco.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Muliple Volume Documentation Set for Multiple Site Locations
I use standard FrameMaker 7. I also publish multiple-volume sets for multiple locations. I document software so the documents contain a system introduction, description of customization and a description of every screen in the application. The screens are grouped into menus. A screen can be included or not, customized or not. Customization can be very slight or great. I mimic the software organization in my document, so the document is grouped accordingly into chapters for each main menu item such as Operations and Inquiries, and separate section for each screen in that menu item. Sometimes, a menu item has so many screens that I put it in its own volume. I divided the volumes into separate files such as General Introduction, Description of Customization, Introduction to First Menu, Screen1 in First Menu, Screen2 in First Menu, etc. I use text insets for paragraphs that are used in more than one file. I also use conditional text for paragraphs that apply only to one location and I never overlap conditional text. I had a lot of trouble with that because we had negative conditions and positive conditions. So instead, if a paragraph appears for 10 locations, I copy it and apply the individual condition to each one. The screens are imported by reference. If a screen is customized for any location, I put it in a folder called Spec_screens. I store the custom ones in screen folders that are specific to each location. Then when I generate a book for a specific location, I copy the appropriate screens to the Spec_screens folder. Then I build a different book for each location. About 85 to 90% is the same for every location. The introductions to the book and to some chapters often are customized because I use them to tell the reader what is customized for that location. When I customize a section for one location, I include a note in the generic section to tell myself the location for which the customization is done. This way, if I change the generic section, I look at the custom section for each location to see if the change applies. It's working, but is a tad complex and can be confusing and might not work if you have more than one writer, so I am open to a better way and am looking at alternatives. Hope this helps you. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 Stuart Rogers Sent by: framers-bounces+carpentn=genco.com at lists.frameusers.com 10/16/2006 12:34 PM To: kgrace cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject:Re: Muliple Volume Documentation Set for Multiple Site Locations kgrace wrote: > My initial thought was to develop these documents and make extensive use > of variables (for the purpose of inserting the various plant names where > required) and conditional text to put information that is specific to > the particular plants. I don't have a lot of experience with this problem myself, but I've read enough posts to know there can be a lot of issues with conditional text when there are a lot of conditions and/or overlapping conditions. So you might want to weigh the pros and cons of using conditions in a single document set versus using text insets in multiple document sets. In other words, one approach is to create a single document set and use variables and conditions to handle differences. The other approach is to create multiple different document sets and use text insets to handle similarities. If there's a lot of differing content, or many instances where info is common to several but not all sites, then using insets might be the better strategy. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "Developers explain How the Product Works. Technical writers explain How to Work the Product." Get Firefox! http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as carpentn at genco.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/carpentn%40genco.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
MLA publication format
Does anyone have a URL to a site that describes the MLA publication format? A colleague needs it for a paper. Thank you. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238
Re: Dang Extra Pages!
In the Numbering dialog box, is the First Page Side set to Right? When this is set, FrameMaker evens out the pages of the prior file in order to force the succeeding file to start on a right page. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 |-+--- | | Trish Castin [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Sent by:| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | meusers.com | | | | | | | | | 07/10/2006 07:34 AM | | | | |-+--- --| | | | To: framers@lists.frameusers.com | | cc: | | Subject: Dang Extra Pages! | --| I'm getting so frustrated now... I've tried every trick I know to get my book to stop putting extra pages in at the end of each chapter. I have only L/R Master Pages, have set every file to Delete Extra Pages, etc., yet every time I regenerate my TOC, they're back. HELP Trish - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/carpentn%40genco.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Dang Extra Pages!
In the Numbering dialog box, is the First Page Side set to Right? When this is set, FrameMaker evens out the pages of the prior file in order to force the succeeding file to start on a right page. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 |-+---> | | Trish Castin | | | Sent by:| | | framers-bounces+carpentn=genco.com at lists.fra| | | meusers.com | | | | | | | | | 07/10/2006 07:34 AM | | | | |-+---> >--| | | | To: framers at lists.frameusers.com | | cc: | | Subject: Dang Extra Pages! | >--| I'm getting so frustrated now... I've tried every trick I know to get my book to stop putting extra pages in at the end of each chapter. I have only L/R Master Pages, have set every file to "Delete Extra Pages", etc., yet every time I regenerate my TOC, they're back. HELP Trish - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as carpentn at genco.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/carpentn%40genco.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: Hiding Pages?]
This might work better than text insets. I use text insets for definitions of fields on screens and for introductory paragraphs that are used in more than one chapter. Is there a limit to how much text you can insert with a cross reference? My introductions often are two or three paragraphs. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 |-+--- | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Sent by:| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | meusers.com | | | | | | | | | 06/09/2006 09:58 AM | | | | |-+--- --| | | | To: Ridder, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: framers@frameusers.com | | Subject: Variables vs Cross-references [WAS: Hiding Pages?] | --| Ridder, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/08/2006 11:57:39 AM: In a situation where only the name changes, I find that it is *much* more maintainable to use a variable for the product name because you only have to make a change in one place (the variable's value definition) when one of the names changes or when a new variant is added to the list. Personally, I don't like conditional text. Usually it gets far too complex very quickly and you're hobbled by the limitation of OR logic for overlapping conditions. But, are variables the right answer? Why not Xrefs instead? Perhaps this idea isn't terribly Earth shattering, but it came to me in a flash and I've been using it successfully for some time now. The idea struck me as more of a 'DUH' kind of realisation when I implemented it, but after giving a FrameMaker class, I was amazed at how foreign the idea seemed to so many. The situation was this: hundreds of components, multiple ways of writing their descriptions, abbreviations, and specifications which led to an unmanageable mass of variables. So, I turned to cross-references. A stand-alone document contains a three column table. Column 1 - CB Number Column 2 - CB Placard Column 3 - Complete description ex: CB1 LIGHTINGCB1, LIGHTING Three cross-reference formats are used: 1 - CBNumber 2 - CBPlacard 3 - CBPlacard (Num) So, depending on the requirements I can include CB1, LIGHTING, or LIGHTING (CB1) in my documentation. If the placard or information changes, I change the source document and that's it. A generate update of all books ensures the data is correct. I've actually begun using the same approach for terms and equipment names. Any text that needs to maintain consistency is grouped with like terms in a file. So three HUGE advantages IMO. First, no need to maintain a MIF snippet of variables or using a script/plug-in to import user variables only (because invariably, one or more of the system variables are defined differently for different sections/files). Second, instead of hundreds of variables, I have 3 Xref formats. Third, generating and updating is already a step in the publishing process. So, the step of importing variables is skipped and not there to be forgotten. What are the downsides? Well, so far nothing. But I have an itch in the back of my skull concerning Xrefs and character formatting that I just can't shake. Something as to whether character formatting applied in the source (all character tagging is done using catalogue formats common to source and destination) is kept in the destination or not... Anyone know what I should be worrying about? Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM
Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: HidingPages?]
Okay, open mouth and insert foot. I know they are different, but I made a sloppy jump in logic and communication. Still have not grown out of that habit. : ) I was thinking that a cross reference might solve a problem that I have with text insets. I will open that in another thread. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com cc: Subject: Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: HidingPages?] 06/09/2006 11:23 AM Umm, I think you're comingling two different things. Text insets (content inserted by reference) are quite different than cross-references. Eric was talking about cross-references, but in your reply you seem to be talking about text insets although you use both terms. Text insets are used to import the content of a named text flow, usually in a separate, external file. There is no limit to the size of text insets; they can be as small as a single word, if that is all that is contained in the referenced flow (although in this case you have to remember to choose the Insert as Plain Text option) or can be as large as hundreds of pages. Cross-references generate a text string in the local document based on the location of a cross-reference marker that exists in some FrameMaker document (either the current file or a separate one). The content of the text string can br defined in the cross- reference format, and can inlcude literal text as well as picking up various properties rlated to the marker, such as the page number of the page where it's located, all or part of any auto-numbering that is applied to the paragraph containing the marker, or the text of the paragraph itself. There is no possibility for a cross-reference to pick up more than a single paragraph's contents (the paragraph where the marker is located) although there is no real limit on how big that single paragraph can be. Fred Ridder Intel Parsippany, NJ From: nancy carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: HidingPages?] Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 10:39:11 -0400 This might work better than text insets. I use text insets for definitions of fields on screens and for introductory paragraphs that are used in more than one chapter. Is there a limit to how much text you can insert with a cross reference? My introductions often are two or three paragraphs. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 |-+--- | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Sent by:| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | meusers.com | | | | | | | | | 06/09/2006 09:58 AM | | | | |-+--- --| | | | To: Ridder, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: framers@frameusers.com | | Subject: Variables vs Cross-references [WAS: Hiding Pages?] | --| Ridder, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/08/2006 11:57:39 AM: In a situation where only the name changes, I find that it is *much* more maintainable to use a variable for the product name because you only have to make a change in one place (the variable's value definition) when one of the names changes or when a new variant is added to the list. Personally, I don't like conditional text. Usually it gets far too complex very quickly and you're hobbled by the limitation of OR logic for overlapping conditions. But, are variables the right answer? Why not Xrefs instead? Perhaps this idea isn't terribly Earth shattering, but it came to me in a flash and I've been using it successfully for some time now. The idea
Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: Hiding Pages?]
This might work better than text insets. I use text insets for definitions of fields on screens and for introductory paragraphs that are used in more than one chapter. Is there a limit to how much text you can insert with a cross reference? My introductions often are two or three paragraphs. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 |-+---> | | eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com | | | Sent by:| | | framers-bounces+carpentn=genco.com at lists.fra| | | meusers.com | | | | | | | | | 06/09/2006 09:58 AM | | | | |-+---> >--| | | | To: "Ridder, Fred" | | cc: framers at frameusers.com | | Subject: Variables vs Cross-references [WAS: Hiding Pages?] | >--| "Ridder, Fred" wrote on 06/08/2006 11:57:39 AM: > In a situation where only the name changes, I find that it is *much* > more maintainable to use a variable for the product name because > you only have to make a change in one place (the variable's value > definition) when one of the names changes or when a new variant > is added to the list. Personally, I don't like conditional text. Usually it gets far too complex very quickly and you're hobbled by the limitation of OR logic for overlapping conditions. But, are variables the right answer? Why not Xrefs instead? Perhaps this idea isn't terribly Earth shattering, but it came to me in a flash and I've been using it successfully for some time now. The idea struck me as more of a 'DUH' kind of realisation when I implemented it, but after giving a FrameMaker class, I was amazed at how foreign the idea seemed to so many. The situation was this: hundreds of components, multiple ways of writing their descriptions, abbreviations, and specifications which led to an unmanageable mass of variables. So, I turned to cross-references. A stand-alone document contains a three column table. Column 1 - CB Number Column 2 - CB Placard Column 3 - Complete description ex: CB1 LIGHTINGCB1, LIGHTING Three cross-reference formats are used: 1 - CBNumber 2 - CBPlacard 3 - CBPlacard (Num) So, depending on the requirements I can include CB1, LIGHTING, or LIGHTING (CB1) in my documentation. If the placard or information changes, I change the source document and that's it. A generate update of all books ensures the data is correct. I've actually begun using the same approach for terms and equipment names. Any text that needs to maintain consistency is grouped with like terms in a file. So three HUGE advantages IMO. First, no need to maintain a MIF snippet of variables or using a script/plug-in to import user variables only (because invariably, one or more of the system variables are defined differently for different sections/files). Second, instead of hundreds of variables, I have 3 Xref formats. Third, generating and updating is already a step in the publishing process. So, the step of importing variables is skipped and not there to be forgotten. What are the downsides? Well, so far nothing. But I have an itch in the back of my skull concerning Xrefs and character formatting that I just can't shake. Something as to whether character formatting applied in the source (all character tagging is done using catalogue formats common to source and destination) is kept in the destination or not... Anyone know what I should be worrying about? Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Pl
Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: HidingPages?]
Okay, open mouth and insert foot. I know they are different, but I made a sloppy jump in logic and communication. Still have not grown out of that habit. : ) I was thinking that a cross reference might solve a problem that I have with text insets. I will open that in another thread. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 "Fred Ridder" cc: Subject: Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: HidingPages?] 06/09/2006 11:23 AM Umm, I think you're comingling two different things. Text insets (content inserted by reference) are quite different than cross-references. Eric was talking about cross-references, but in your reply you seem to be talking about text insets although you use both terms. Text insets are used to import the content of a named text flow, usually in a separate, external file. There is no limit to the size of text insets; they can be as small as a single word, if that is all that is contained in the referenced flow (although in this case you have to remember to choose the Insert as Plain Text option) or can be as large as hundreds of pages. Cross-references generate a text string in the local document based on the location of a cross-reference marker that exists in some FrameMaker document (either the current file or a separate one). The content of the text string can br defined in the cross- reference format, and can inlcude literal text as well as picking up various properties rlated to the marker, such as the page number of the page where it's located, all or part of any auto-numbering that is applied to the paragraph containing the marker, or the text of the paragraph itself. There is no possibility for a cross-reference to pick up more than a single paragraph's contents (the paragraph where the marker is located) although there is no real limit on how big that single paragraph can be. Fred Ridder Intel Parsippany, NJ >From: nancy carpenter >To: framers at frameusers.com >Subject: Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: >HidingPages?] >Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 10:39:11 -0400 > >This might work better than text insets. I use text insets for definitions >of fields on screens and for introductory paragraphs that are used in more >than one chapter. Is there a limit to how much text you can insert with a >cross reference? My introductions often are two or three paragraphs. > >Nancy Carpenter >Lead Technical Writer >GENCO Distribution System >100 Papercraft Park >Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 > > >|-+---> >| | eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com | >| | Sent by:| >| | framers-bounces+carpentn=genco.com at lists.fra| >| | meusers.com | >| | | >| | | >| | 06/09/2006 09:58 AM | >| | | >|-+---> > > >--| > | > | > | To: "Ridder, Fred" > | > | cc: framers at frameusers.com > | > | Subject: Variables vs Cross-references [WAS: Hiding Pages?] > | > > >--| > > > > >"Ridder, Fred" wrote on 06/08/2006 11:57:39 AM: > > In a situation where only the name changes, I find that it is *much* > > more maintainable to use a variable for the product name because > > you only have to make a change in one place (the variable's value > > definition) when one of the names changes or when a new variant > > is added to the list. > >Personally, I don't like conditional text. Usually it gets far too complex >very quickly and you'
RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
I still use the numeric outline form for all the large documents. We often go down 3 or 4 levels below the chapter, and the numbering makes it clear where we are. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 |-+--- | | Linda G. Gallagher| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | Sent by:| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | meusers.com | | | | | | | | | 05/16/2006 05:57 PM | | | Please respond to lindag| | | | |-+--- --| | | | To: Gillian Flato [EMAIL PROTECTED], framers@frameusers.com | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals | --| I only use that type of numbering when a client insists on it. Typically, those clients are engineers with content targeting other engineers. ~~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC Intelligent technical communication since 1993 Technical writing, help development, FrameMaker and WebWorks Publisher conversions [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.techcomplus.com/ 303-450-9076 800-500-3144 ~~ Manager, Consulting and Independent Contracting Special Interest Group Society for Technical Communication http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html ~~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gillian Flato Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:09 PM To: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals Guys, When you write a Technical Manual do you number heads and sections with 1.1, 1.2, 1.2.1 etc. I have a manual which is essentially an API and it's numbered that way. It looks very cluttered to me. By taking that out and using conventional styles, it has an easier UI to me. What's the general consensus on numbering with the 1.1, 1.1.1, 1.2 type of way? Is that generally history now, or is it actually still used a lot? Thanks, Gillian Flato Technical Writer (Software) NANOmetrics, Inc. 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.435.9600 x 316 7 408.232.5911 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] blocked::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lindag%40techcomplus.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/carpentn%40genco.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
I still use the numeric outline form for all the large documents. We often go down 3 or 4 levels below the chapter, and the numbering makes it clear where we are. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 |-+---> | | "Linda G. Gallagher"| | | | | | Sent by:| | | framers-bounces+carpentn=genco.com at lists.fra| | | meusers.com | | | | | | | | | 05/16/2006 05:57 PM | | | Please respond to lindag| | | | |-+---> >--| | | | To: "Gillian Flato" ,| | cc: | | Subject: RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals | >--| I only use that type of numbering when a client insists on it. Typically, those clients are engineers with content targeting other engineers. ~~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC Intelligent technical communication since 1993 Technical writing, help development, FrameMaker and WebWorks Publisher conversions lindag at techcomplus.com http://www.techcomplus.com/ 303-450-9076 800-500-3144 ~~ Manager, Consulting and Independent Contracting Special Interest Group Society for Technical Communication http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html ~~ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+lindag=techcomplus@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+lindag=techcomplus.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Gillian Flato Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:09 PM To: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals Guys, When you write a Technical Manual do you number heads and sections with 1.1, 1.2, 1.2.1 etc. I have a manual which is essentially an API and it's numbered that way. It looks very cluttered to me. By taking that out and using conventional styles, it has an easier UI to me. What's the general consensus on numbering with the 1.1, 1.1.1, 1.2 type of way? Is that generally history now, or is it actually still used a lot? Thanks, Gillian Flato Technical Writer (Software) NANOmetrics, Inc. 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.435.9600 x 316 7 408.232.5911 * gflato at nanometrics.com This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as lindag at techcomplus.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lindag%40techcomplus.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as carpentn at genco.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/carpentn%40genco.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing Graphics from Word
I copy graphics the way that David described, copying it into PaintShop Pro. But I tested Barb's method and she gets much better quality. I wonder why? Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 |-+--- | | Spreadbury, David | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Sent by:| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | meusers.com | | | | | | | | | 05/10/2006 01:59 PM | | | | |-+--- --| | | | To: Barb Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED], framers@lists.frameusers.com | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Importing Graphics from Word | --| You should be able to select the graphic in Word and copy it to the clipboard. Then paste it into a graphics tool, i.e., Photoshop. Then you can save it as whatever format you prefer and import this, by reference, into Frame. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] m] On Behalf Of Barb Vogel Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:54 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Importing Graphics from Word I have been converting Word documents to FrameMaker 7.1. (Win 2K) 1. Only the embedded Word graphics exist. 2. All graphics in the FrameMaker document must be imported by reference. My solution was to copy each Word graphic into an FM document, save it as a .fm file, and import the .fm file by reference into the FM document. This has seemed to be a workable solution, and I've used it to convert three manuals.of 100 pp. each. I've created PDF files for two of the manuals (containing books with several chapters), but the PDF fails in the case of the third manual In this case, the problem seems to be with the graphic: each page after the page containing the graphic shows a block of text the same size and in the same position as the graphic on the page before. This is probably a primitive solution for getting the graphics into the FM documents. I'll be grateful for any suggestions for doing this a better way. Barb The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reproduction, dissemination or distribution of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Tellabs ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/carpentn%40genco.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Importing Graphics from Word
I copy graphics the way that David described, copying it into PaintShop Pro. But I tested Barb's method and she gets much better quality. I wonder why? Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 |-+---> | | "Spreadbury, David" | | | | | | Sent by:| | | framers-bounces+carpentn=genco.com at lists.fra| | | meusers.com | | | | | | | | | 05/10/2006 01:59 PM | | | | |-+---> >--| | | | To: "Barb Vogel" , | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Importing Graphics from Word | >--| You should be able to select the graphic in Word and copy it to the clipboard. Then paste it into a graphics tool, i.e., Photoshop. Then you can save it as whatever format you prefer and import this, by reference, into Frame. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs.com at lists.frameusers.co m] On Behalf Of Barb Vogel Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:54 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Importing Graphics from Word I have been converting Word documents to FrameMaker 7.1. (Win 2K) 1. Only the embedded Word graphics exist. 2. All graphics in the FrameMaker document must be imported by reference. My solution was to copy each Word graphic into an FM document, save it as a .fm file, and import the .fm file by reference into the FM document. This has seemed to be a workable solution, and I've used it to convert three manuals.of 100 pp. each. I've created PDF files for two of the manuals (containing books with several chapters), but the PDF fails in the case of the third manual In this case, the problem seems to be with the graphic: each page after the page containing the graphic shows a block of text the same size and in the same position as the graphic on the page before. This is probably a "primitive" solution for getting the graphics into the FM documents. I'll be grateful for any suggestions for doing this a better way. Barb The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reproduction, dissemination or distribution of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Tellabs ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as carpentn at genco.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/carpentn%40genco.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cross Referencing Multiple Book Files
Julie: I've had this same problem. The directory structure must be the same, and the pdf must have the same name as the FrameMaker book. I put books inside subfolders, but when I want the pdfs to be in the same folder, without subfolders, I create all the FrameMaker books in the parent folder using Save Book As. In addition, if I want the pdf to have a specific name, for instance adding a date to it, I create a FrameMaker book with that name. Then all the links work. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 |-+--- | | Spreadbury, David | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Sent by:| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | meusers.com | | | | | | | | | 05/02/2006 02:32 PM | | | | |-+--- --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], framers@lists.frameusers.com | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Cross Referencing Multiple Book Files | --| Julie, When creating cross-references between books, the directory structure relationship between the files must be maintained. If the folder structure, when you created the links looks like: ReleaseNotes Book1 Book1.pdf Book2 Book2.pdf Book3 Book3.pdf the resultant PDFs must maintain the same relationship, forever, for the links to work correctly. If you are relocating the PDFs to one folder, you will get broken links. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] m] On Behalf Of Julie Leake Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:21 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Cross Referencing Multiple Book Files Hi All! I am creating Release Notes that need to cross-reference to files in other books. For example, I have a new feature that I list in this file and have cross-referenced to the full explanation in the Using manual. The next new feature cross-references to the Configuration manual, etc. After creating the Release Notes, PDF the cross-references don't work. When I click on the link in the PDF, I get the message that the specified file config.pdf does not exist. When I generate the online help, it says that there are unresolved xrefs (which are not unresolved xrefs in the Frame file). I have updated the links, to no avail. I have tried creating the PDF with all the book files and individuals files open and I have tried it with only having the book files open. In the PDF Setup dialog box, Links tab, Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs is selected. What am I doing wrong? FrameMaker 7.0p579 - WWP for Frame v. 8.0.8.2296 - Windows XP Thanks! Julie The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reproduction, dissemination or distribution of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Tellabs ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/carpentn%40genco.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources
Cross Referencing Multiple Book Files
Julie: I've had this same problem. The directory structure must be the same, and the pdf must have the same name as the FrameMaker book. I put books inside subfolders, but when I want the pdfs to be in the same folder, without subfolders, I create all the FrameMaker books in the parent folder using Save Book As. In addition, if I want the pdf to have a specific name, for instance adding a date to it, I create a FrameMaker book with that name. Then all the links work. Nancy Carpenter Lead Technical Writer GENCO Distribution System 100 Papercraft Park Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 |-+---> | | "Spreadbury, David" | | | | | | Sent by:| | | framers-bounces+carpentn=genco.com at lists.fra| | | meusers.com | | | | | | | | | 05/02/2006 02:32 PM | | | | |-+---> >--| | | | To: , | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Cross Referencing Multiple Book Files | >--| Julie, When creating cross-references between books, the directory structure relationship between the files must be maintained. If the folder structure, when you created the links looks like: ReleaseNotes Book1 Book1.pdf Book2 Book2.pdf Book3 Book3.pdf the resultant PDFs must maintain the same relationship, forever, for the links to work correctly. If you are relocating the PDFs to one folder, you will get broken links. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs.com at lists.frameusers.co m] On Behalf Of Julie Leake Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:21 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Cross Referencing Multiple Book Files Hi All! I am creating Release Notes that need to cross-reference to files in other books. For example, I have a new feature that I list in this file and have cross-referenced to the full explanation in the Using manual. The next new feature cross-references to the Configuration manual, etc. After creating the Release Notes, PDF the cross-references don't work. When I click on the link in the PDF, I get the message that "the specified file config.pdf does not exist." When I generate the online help, it says that there are unresolved xrefs (which are not unresolved xrefs in the Frame file). I have updated the links, to no avail. I have tried creating the PDF with all the book files and individuals files open and I have tried it with only having the book files open. In the PDF Setup dialog box, Links tab, "Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs" is selected. What am I doing wrong? FrameMaker 7.0p579 - WWP for Frame v. 8.0.8.2296 - Windows XP Thanks! Julie The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reproduction, dissemination or distribution of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Tellabs ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as carpentn at genco.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/carpentn%40genco.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
