subject:"\[Framers\] FM 11 \/ FM 14 compatibility"

Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility property names for the various binary doc types that start with

2018-11-30 Thread Rick Quatro

When you use values like these in your script:

Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary

they actually represent numbers. If you download and install the latest
FrameMaker FDK (free, but not sure the URL), you can see a list of these
constants in the include/fapidefs.h file. Somewhere around line 940 or so
you will see a list of these; here are a few of the entries:

#define FV_SaveFmtBinary100 21
#define FV_SaveFmtInterchange10022
#define FV_SaveFmtBinary110 23
#define FV_SaveFmtInterchange11024
#define FV_SaveFmtBinary120 25
#define FV_SaveFmtInterchange12026
#define FV_SaveFmtBinary130 27
#define FV_SaveFmtInterchange13028
#define FV_SaveFmtBinary140 29
#define FV_SaveFmtInterchange14030
#define FV_SaveFmtBinary150 31
#define FV_SaveFmtInterchange15032

You can use the raw numbers in your script, but the human-readable constants
are better. Of course after FrameMaker 12, the internal version numbers
don't match the marketing version numbers.

FrameMaker 2015 = 130 (in other areas 13)
FrameMaker 2017 = 140 (in other areas 14)
FrameMaker 2019 = 150 (in other areas 15)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 11:12 AM
To: Frame Users 
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility property names for the
various binary doc types that start with

Interesting. The script I have, which was created by a former coworker who
adapted it from something Rick used in his ExtendScript class, does not seem
to have any mention of the value pairing Craig mentions. It does work,
though. I have not tried to update it for FM12, FM13, or FM14, though.

(NB: not a scripter. my updates consist of copying blocks of code and
pasting them with things like  Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary changed to what I
assume the new numbers are. I freely admit this may not be the best or right
way to do this, but FM seems to recognize the files saved to an earlier
format as being IN that earlier format when I try to open them in the later
version.)

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:01 AM Craig Ede  wrote:

> I agree. But the values to pair those properties with are an open 
> question (though trial and error might suss it out). The value use for 
> v6-11 changes in this fashion:
> 11,12,13,16,21,23
>
> At a guess I'd start with 25 for FM12 and 27 for FM13 and see if that 
> works.
>
> Craig
> 
> From: Framers 
> 
> on behalf of Lin Sims 
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:49 AM
> To: Frame Users
> Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility property names for 
> the various binary doc types that start with
>
> If Adobe maintains its pattern, then saving to FM12 would use
> Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary120 and FM13 would be 
> Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary130.
>
>
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Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility

2018-11-30 Thread Marek, James

Thanks for all your advice and cautions. We decided to take the easy route and 
use FM 11 for compatibility within the project. If the situation changes, I 
will go back and review all the comments

Thanks again,
Jim Marek

-Original Message-
From: Framers  
On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 7:02 AM
To: Frame Users 
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility

If you use a script (I think Rick Quatro sells one, and I have a homebrew 
version), you can save to any previous version of FM. It's only on the File
> Save As menu that you can only choose the previous version.

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 9:54 PM Jayaprakash Gnanamurthy < 
prakash.gnanamur...@gmail.com> wrote:

> FrameMaker only allows doing a save as to one previous version (R-1).
> Example: If using FM 14, the files can only be saved as to the FM 13 
> version.
>
>
>

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Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility property names for the various binary doc types that start with

2018-11-30 Thread Lin Sims

Rick is pretty awesome. :D

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:41 AM Craig Ede  wrote:

> At $24 Rick's ConvertDocs script is a steal and saves you having to worry
> about parameter values, error checking the script, etc. etc. etc.
>
> Long live Rick!
>
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Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility property names for the various binary doc types that start with

2018-11-30 Thread Craig Ede

At $24 Rick's ConvertDocs script is a steal and saves you having to worry about 
parameter values, error checking the script, etc. etc. etc.

Long live Rick!

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frameexpert.com
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workflows. Home; Store; Blog; All software works with FrameMaker 10 and higher 
and doesn't require any additional software.
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Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility property names for the various binary doc types that start with

2018-11-30 Thread Lin Sims

Interesting. The script I have, which was created by a former coworker who
adapted it from something Rick used in his ExtendScript class, does not
seem to have any mention of the value pairing Craig mentions. It does work,
though. I have not tried to update it for FM12, FM13, or FM14, though.

(NB: not a scripter. my updates consist of copying blocks of code and
pasting them with things like  Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary changed to what I
assume the new numbers are. I freely admit this may not be the best or
right way to do this, but FM seems to recognize the files saved to an
earlier format as being IN that earlier format when I try to open them in
the later version.)

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:01 AM Craig Ede  wrote:

> I agree. But the values to pair those properties with are an open question
> (though trial and error might suss it out). The value use for v6-11 changes
> in this fashion:
> 11,12,13,16,21,23
>
> At a guess I'd start with 25 for FM12 and 27 for FM13 and see if that
> works.
>
> Craig
> 
> From: Framers 
> on behalf of Lin Sims 
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:49 AM
> To: Frame Users
> Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility property names for the
> various binary doc types that start with
>
> If Adobe maintains its pattern, then saving to FM12 would use
> Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary120 and FM13 would be
> Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary130.
>
>
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Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility property names for the various binary doc types that start with

2018-11-30 Thread Craig Ede

I agree. But the values to pair those properties with are an open question 
(though trial and error might suss it out). The value use for v6-11 changes in 
this fashion:
11,12,13,16,21,23

At a guess I'd start with 25 for FM12 and 27 for FM13 and see if that works.

Craig

From: Framers  on 
behalf of Lin Sims 
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:49 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility property names for the 
various binary doc types that start with

If Adobe maintains its pattern, then saving to FM12 would use
Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary120 and FM13 would be
Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary130.



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Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility property names for the various binary doc types that start with

2018-11-30 Thread Lin Sims

If Adobe maintains its pattern, then saving to FM12 would use
Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary120 and FM13 would be
Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary130.



On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 10:36 AM Craig Ede  wrote:

> I just looked this up in the pdf at
> https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/pdfs/framemaker_scripting.pdf
>
> There are a number of Properties listed that start with
> Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary60 (for FM6) and go to
> Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary110 (for FM11). The value used with each of these
> properties changes as listed in the table (pp121-122) and that results in
> saving a binary file of that version. I expect there are also values
> Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary for the newer version that have not yet made it
> into this Aug. 2018 release of the documentation.
>
> Craig
> 
> From: Framers 
> on behalf of Craig Ede 
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:17 AM
> To: Jayaprakash Gnanamurthy; An email list for people using Adobe
> FrameMaker software.
> Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility
>
> Not true, as Rick and Lin's postings indicate. Extendscript allows saving
> to a number of previous formats. Extendscript only functions in versions
> FM10 and up, but, if memory serves (a big caveat), you can save back to at
> least v7.1.  Of course, the use of any new features will be lost when doing
> that, so use the same template as the folks using your previous version to
> avoid that.
>
> Craig
> 
> From: Framers 
> on behalf of Jayaprakash Gnanamurthy 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 8:54 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility
>
> FrameMaker only allows doing a save as to one previous version (R-1).
> Example: If using FM 14, the files can only be saved as to the FM 13
> version.
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 6:10 AM 
> wrote:
>
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> >1.  FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility (Marek, James)
> >2.  Table footnotes (Bragg, Judy - Xylem)
> >3. Re:  FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility (Rick Quatro)
> >4. Re:  Table footnotes (Lin Sims)
> >5.  File storage best practice (Doug)
> >6. Re:  File storage best practice (David Artman)
> >7. Re:  File storage best practice (Lin Sims)
> >8. Re:  File storage best practice (William Saylor)
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:34:19 +
> > From: "Marek, James" 
> > To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> > Subject: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> >
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> > After 5 years of using Word, I get to use FrameMaker again! My colleagues
> > are using FM 11, but the IT folks just gave me a link and license for FM
> > 14. Can I save my work (FM 14) in .fm and .book files that my colleagues
> > can use (FM 11)?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jim Marek
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:46:36 +
> > From: "Bragg, Judy - Xylem" 
> > To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> > Subject: [Framers] Table footnotes
> > Message-ID:
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> > 54c93e421ba640149d778f298bd48...@seemm1e15-06.world.fluidtechnology.net>
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > I'm working in unstructured Tech. Comm. Suite 2015, and I have come
> across
> > a couple of problems with table footnotes. I hope someone out there has a
> > way around them.
> >
> > In FM, Table Footnote rolls to the next page:
> > I have one instance where "the stars have aligned" and  the table happens
> > to end right at the bottom of the page, then the table footnotes appear
> at
> > the top of the next.  I'd really prefer that at least 1 row of the table
> > roll to the next page so the footnotes aren't orphaned.
> >
> > I thought it might have to

Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility property names for the various binary doc types that start with

2018-11-30 Thread Craig Ede

I just looked this up in the pdf at 
https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/pdfs/framemaker_scripting.pdf

There are a number of Properties listed that start with 
Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary60 (for FM6) and go to Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary110 
(for FM11). The value used with each of these properties changes as listed in 
the table (pp121-122) and that results in saving a binary file of that version. 
I expect there are also values Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary for the newer version 
that have not yet made it into this Aug. 2018 release of the documentation.

Craig

From: Framers  on 
behalf of Craig Ede 
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:17 AM
To: Jayaprakash Gnanamurthy; An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker 
software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility

Not true, as Rick and Lin's postings indicate. Extendscript allows saving to a 
number of previous formats. Extendscript only functions in versions FM10 and 
up, but, if memory serves (a big caveat), you can save back to at least v7.1.  
Of course, the use of any new features will be lost when doing that, so use the 
same template as the folks using your previous version to avoid that.

Craig

From: Framers  on 
behalf of Jayaprakash Gnanamurthy 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 8:54 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility

FrameMaker only allows doing a save as to one previous version (R-1).
Example: If using FM 14, the files can only be saved as to the FM 13
version.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 6:10 AM 
wrote:

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>3. Re:  FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility (Rick Quatro)
>4. Re:  Table footnotes (Lin Sims)
>5.  File storage best practice (Doug)
>6. Re:  File storage best practice (David Artman)
>7. Re:  File storage best practice (Lin Sims)
>8. Re:  File storage best practice (William Saylor)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:34:19 +
> From: "Marek, James" 
> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> Subject: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility
> Message-ID:
> <
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>
> After 5 years of using Word, I get to use FrameMaker again! My colleagues
> are using FM 11, but the IT folks just gave me a link and license for FM
> 14. Can I save my work (FM 14) in .fm and .book files that my colleagues
> can use (FM 11)?
>
> Regards,
> Jim Marek
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:46:36 +
> From: "Bragg, Judy - Xylem" 
> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> Subject: [Framers] Table footnotes
> Message-ID:
> <
> 54c93e421ba640149d778f298bd48...@seemm1e15-06.world.fluidtechnology.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I'm working in unstructured Tech. Comm. Suite 2015, and I have come across
> a couple of problems with table footnotes. I hope someone out there has a
> way around them.
>
> In FM, Table Footnote rolls to the next page:
> I have one instance where "the stars have aligned" and  the table happens
> to end right at the bottom of the page, then the table footnotes appear at
> the top of the next.  I'd really prefer that at least 1 row of the table
> roll to the next page so the footnotes aren't orphaned.
>
> I thought it might have to do with the fact that this table is in a text
> inset, but if I go to the source document where the inset is and shorten
> the text flow to beneath the table, the footnotes roll as orphans there too.
>
> The Table Footnote paragraph style is set to Keep With Previous.
> Changing table body styles to Keep With the Next would cause other, more
> frequent problems.
> Other ideas?
>
> Links to Table Footnotes:
> In FM, I have a table where 3 cells should  reference the same footnote.
> I inserted a footnote in the table at the first instance, then manually
> made a superscript letter coinciding to that footnote in the other 2 cells
> and hyperlinked them to the table footnote.
>
&g

Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility

2018-11-30 Thread Craig Ede

Not true, as Rick and Lin's postings indicate. Extendscript allows saving to a 
number of previous formats. Extendscript only functions in versions FM10 and 
up, but, if memory serves (a big caveat), you can save back to at least v7.1.  
Of course, the use of any new features will be lost when doing that, so use the 
same template as the folks using your previous version to avoid that.

Craig

From: Framers  on 
behalf of Jayaprakash Gnanamurthy 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 8:54 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility

FrameMaker only allows doing a save as to one previous version (R-1).
Example: If using FM 14, the files can only be saved as to the FM 13
version.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 6:10 AM 
wrote:

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>2.  Table footnotes (Bragg, Judy - Xylem)
>3. Re:  FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility (Rick Quatro)
>4. Re:  Table footnotes (Lin Sims)
>5.  File storage best practice (Doug)
>6. Re:  File storage best practice (David Artman)
>7. Re:  File storage best practice (Lin Sims)
>8. Re:  File storage best practice (William Saylor)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:34:19 +
> From: "Marek, James" 
> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> Subject: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility
> Message-ID:
> <
> dcfbee40befeea4ba7de4b1b433616615abd6...@ustxca0em11msx.ww017.siemens.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> After 5 years of using Word, I get to use FrameMaker again! My colleagues
> are using FM 11, but the IT folks just gave me a link and license for FM
> 14. Can I save my work (FM 14) in .fm and .book files that my colleagues
> can use (FM 11)?
>
> Regards,
> Jim Marek
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:46:36 +
> From: "Bragg, Judy - Xylem" 
> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> Subject: [Framers] Table footnotes
> Message-ID:
> <
> 54c93e421ba640149d778f298bd48...@seemm1e15-06.world.fluidtechnology.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I'm working in unstructured Tech. Comm. Suite 2015, and I have come across
> a couple of problems with table footnotes. I hope someone out there has a
> way around them.
>
> In FM, Table Footnote rolls to the next page:
> I have one instance where "the stars have aligned" and  the table happens
> to end right at the bottom of the page, then the table footnotes appear at
> the top of the next.  I'd really prefer that at least 1 row of the table
> roll to the next page so the footnotes aren't orphaned.
>
> I thought it might have to do with the fact that this table is in a text
> inset, but if I go to the source document where the inset is and shorten
> the text flow to beneath the table, the footnotes roll as orphans there too.
>
> The Table Footnote paragraph style is set to Keep With Previous.
> Changing table body styles to Keep With the Next would cause other, more
> frequent problems.
> Other ideas?
>
> Links to Table Footnotes:
> In FM, I have a table where 3 cells should  reference the same footnote.
> I inserted a footnote in the table at the first instance, then manually
> made a superscript letter coinciding to that footnote in the other 2 cells
> and hyperlinked them to the table footnote.
>
> It works in FM, but when I port over to RoboHelp for the CHM files,
> instead of the manual hyperlinks in those 2 cells, the whole content of the
> footnote appears after the cell body text!  For the moment, I've just
> removed the hyperlinks, but I'm curious why my method isn't working and if
> there's another way.
>
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Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility

2018-11-30 Thread Lin Sims

If you use a script (I think Rick Quatro sells one, and I have a homebrew
version), you can save to any previous version of FM. It's only on the File
> Save As menu that you can only choose the previous version.

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 9:54 PM Jayaprakash Gnanamurthy <
prakash.gnanamur...@gmail.com> wrote:

> FrameMaker only allows doing a save as to one previous version (R-1).
> Example: If using FM 14, the files can only be saved as to the FM 13
> version.
>
>
>

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Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility

2018-11-29 Thread Jayaprakash Gnanamurthy

FrameMaker only allows doing a save as to one previous version (R-1).
Example: If using FM 14, the files can only be saved as to the FM 13
version.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 6:10 AM 
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> After 5 years of using Word, I get to use FrameMaker again! My colleagues
> are using FM 11, but the IT folks just gave me a link and license for FM
> 14. Can I save my work (FM 14) in .fm and .book files that my colleagues
> can use (FM 11)?
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> I'm working in unstructured Tech. Comm. Suite 2015, and I have come across
> a couple of problems with table footnotes. I hope someone out there has a
> way around them.
>
> In FM, Table Footnote rolls to the next page:
> I have one instance where "the stars have aligned" and  the table happens
> to end right at the bottom of the page, then the table footnotes appear at
> the top of the next.  I'd really prefer that at least 1 row of the table
> roll to the next page so the footnotes aren't orphaned.
>
> I thought it might have to do with the fact that this table is in a text
> inset, but if I go to the source document where the inset is and shorten
> the text flow to beneath the table, the footnotes roll as orphans there too.
>
> The Table Footnote paragraph style is set to Keep With Previous.
> Changing table body styles to Keep With the Next would cause other, more
> frequent problems.
> Other ideas?
>
> Links to Table Footnotes:
> In FM, I have a table where 3 cells should  reference the same footnote.
> I inserted a footnote in the table at the first instance, then manually
> made a superscript letter coinciding to that footnote in the other 2 cells
> and hyperlinked them to the table footnote.
>
> It works in FM, but when I port over to RoboHelp for the CHM files,
> instead of the manual hyperlinks in those 2 cells, the whole content of the
> footnote appears after the cell body text!  For the moment, I've just
> removed the hyperlinks, but I'm curious why my method isn't working and if
> there's another way.
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Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility

2018-11-28 Thread Rick Quatro

You need my ConvertDocs script. It works great and is cheap!

http://www.frameexpert.com/store/

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-729-6746

Save on energy at quatro.mystream.com



-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Marek, James
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility

After 5 years of using Word, I get to use FrameMaker again! My colleagues
are using FM 11, but the IT folks just gave me a link and license for FM 14.
Can I save my work (FM 14) in .fm and .book files that my colleagues can use
(FM 11)?

Regards,
Jim Marek
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[Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility

2018-11-28 Thread Marek, James

After 5 years of using Word, I get to use FrameMaker again! My colleagues are 
using FM 11, but the IT folks just gave me a link and license for FM 14. Can I 
save my work (FM 14) in .fm and .book files that my colleagues can use (FM 11)?

Regards,
Jim Marek
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