Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions
Yes, it's safer to find a machine that doesn't have any FM loaded on it to play around with trials. From: Ken Poshedly <poshe...@bellsouth.net> Sent: September-07-16 9:49 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions Good idea, Jeff. I do have FM 10 (not 11) installed on a laptop at home. But will installing cloud-based FM2015 "pollute" that and make my FM10 unusable afterwards? I remember seeing previous posts over the years of others who did trial upgrades but then decided no-thanks, only to find their original versions unusable. -- Ken On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:39 AM, Jeff Coatsworth <jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com> wrote: Ken - if you've got a spare machine at home (or kicking about the office), you could download the FM2015 trial & test for yourself ;>) From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com>> on behalf of Ken Poshedly <poshe...@bellsouth.net<mailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net>> Sent: September-07-16 9:35 AM To: Rick Quatro; 'Framers List' Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions To all, Could someone on this list who already uses FM2015 email me privately so we could set up a short test? Thanks, -- Ken in Atlanta On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com<mailto:r...@rickquatro.com>> wrote: Ken, Have them save the files in MIF and you will be able to open them with 11. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com<mailto:r...@frameexpert.com> -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com>] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:25 AM To: Framers List Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions The translation department at my company's home office in China is considering to obtain FrameMaker 2015. That's the best wording I can use for this because I'm sure all of us are aware of the hacking in that country, so I can't speak for how they'll get the software. (My company is absolutely humongous in China with offices worldwide, but operates as if the staff consists of only four or five minimum-wage peons. Sort of how Scrooge treated Marley in The Christmas Carol.) My office is in metro Atlanta and we use "FrameMaker Version 11.0," with really no problems — though I wish we didn't have to jump through hoops to archive [book-build] a finished manual. (Even then, those archives have their own problems with duplicates of some files in different folders.) I already know that files created (or edited) in a newer version of Frame must be deliberately saved to a lower version so they can be accessed by those with the earlier Frame product. Because of the multi-generational difference between FrameMaker 2015 and Frame 11, I'm concerned that the newer product will not save files to the earlier level (FM11) that we here can use. Are my concerns valid or is everything hunky-dory? And no, the Chinese management at my office will definitely NOT (i.e., no way, nada, hell-no!, etc.) upgrade my department of three American writers with the new product. The Chinese business model (or at least the one my company follows) is to cut costs but hope for increased sales. I'll be glad to discuss that issue off-list. -- Ken in Atlanta ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com <http://www.frameusers.com/> Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com<mailto:listad...@frameusers.com> ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com<http://www.frameusers.com/> Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com<mailto:listad...@frameusers.com> ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> Visit the l
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions
Ken - if you've got a spare machine at home (or kicking about the office), you could download the FM2015 trial & test for yourself ;>) From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of Ken Poshedly <poshe...@bellsouth.net> Sent: September-07-16 9:35 AM To: Rick Quatro; 'Framers List' Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions To all, Could someone on this list who already uses FM2015 email me privately so we could set up a short test? Thanks, -- Ken in Atlanta On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> wrote: Ken, Have them save the files in MIF and you will be able to open them with 11. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:25 AM To: Framers List Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions The translation department at my company's home office in China is considering to obtain FrameMaker 2015. That's the best wording I can use for this because I'm sure all of us are aware of the hacking in that country, so I can't speak for how they'll get the software. (My company is absolutely humongous in China with offices worldwide, but operates as if the staff consists of only four or five minimum-wage peons. Sort of how Scrooge treated Marley in The Christmas Carol.) My office is in metro Atlanta and we use "FrameMaker Version 11.0," with really no problems — though I wish we didn't have to jump through hoops to archive [book-build] a finished manual. (Even then, those archives have their own problems with duplicates of some files in different folders.) I already know that files created (or edited) in a newer version of Frame must be deliberately saved to a lower version so they can be accessed by those with the earlier Frame product. Because of the multi-generational difference between FrameMaker 2015 and Frame 11, I'm concerned that the newer product will not save files to the earlier level (FM11) that we here can use. Are my concerns valid or is everything hunky-dory? And no, the Chinese management at my office will definitely NOT (i.e., no way, nada, hell-no!, etc.) upgrade my department of three American writers with the new product. The Chinese business model (or at least the one my company follows) is to cut costs but hope for increased sales. I'll be glad to discuss that issue off-list. -- Ken in Atlanta ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions
To all, Could someone on this list who already uses FM2015 email me privately so we could set up a short test? Thanks, -- Ken in Atlanta On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> wrote: Ken, Have them save the files in MIF and you will be able to open them with 11. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:25 AM To: Framers List Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions The translation department at my company's home office in China is considering to obtain FrameMaker 2015. That's the best wording I can use for this because I'm sure all of us are aware of the hacking in that country, so I can't speak for how they'll get the software. (My company is absolutely humongous in China with offices worldwide, but operates as if the staff consists of only four or five minimum-wage peons. Sort of how Scrooge treated Marley in The Christmas Carol.) My office is in metro Atlanta and we use "FrameMaker Version 11.0," with really no problems — though I wish we didn't have to jump through hoops to archive [book-build] a finished manual. (Even then, those archives have their own problems with duplicates of some files in different folders.) I already know that files created (or edited) in a newer version of Frame must be deliberately saved to a lower version so they can be accessed by those with the earlier Frame product. Because of the multi-generational difference between FrameMaker 2015 and Frame 11, I'm concerned that the newer product will not save files to the earlier level (FM11) that we here can use. Are my concerns valid or is everything hunky-dory? And no, the Chinese management at my office will definitely NOT (i.e., no way, nada, hell-no!, etc.) upgrade my department of three American writers with the new product. The Chinese business model (or at least the one my company follows) is to cut costs but hope for increased sales. I'll be glad to discuss that issue off-list. -- Ken in Atlanta ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions
Ah -- I hadn't thought of that! Great recommendation! That's why YOU are da man! -- Ken On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> wrote: Ken, Have them save the files in MIF and you will be able to open them with 11. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:25 AM To: Framers List Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions The translation department at my company's home office in China is considering to obtain FrameMaker 2015. That's the best wording I can use for this because I'm sure all of us are aware of the hacking in that country, so I can't speak for how they'll get the software. (My company is absolutely humongous in China with offices worldwide, but operates as if the staff consists of only four or five minimum-wage peons. Sort of how Scrooge treated Marley in The Christmas Carol.) My office is in metro Atlanta and we use "FrameMaker Version 11.0," with really no problems — though I wish we didn't have to jump through hoops to archive [book-build] a finished manual. (Even then, those archives have their own problems with duplicates of some files in different folders.) I already know that files created (or edited) in a newer version of Frame must be deliberately saved to a lower version so they can be accessed by those with the earlier Frame product. Because of the multi-generational difference between FrameMaker 2015 and Frame 11, I'm concerned that the newer product will not save files to the earlier level (FM11) that we here can use. Are my concerns valid or is everything hunky-dory? And no, the Chinese management at my office will definitely NOT (i.e., no way, nada, hell-no!, etc.) upgrade my department of three American writers with the new product. The Chinese business model (or at least the one my company follows) is to cut costs but hope for increased sales. I'll be glad to discuss that issue off-list. -- Ken in Atlanta ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions
Ken, Have them save the files in MIF and you will be able to open them with 11. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:25 AM To: Framers List Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions The translation department at my company's home office in China is considering to obtain FrameMaker 2015. That's the best wording I can use for this because I'm sure all of us are aware of the hacking in that country, so I can't speak for how they'll get the software. (My company is absolutely humongous in China with offices worldwide, but operates as if the staff consists of only four or five minimum-wage peons. Sort of how Scrooge treated Marley in The Christmas Carol.) My office is in metro Atlanta and we use "FrameMaker Version 11.0," with really no problems — though I wish we didn't have to jump through hoops to archive [book-build] a finished manual. (Even then, those archives have their own problems with duplicates of some files in different folders.) I already know that files created (or edited) in a newer version of Frame must be deliberately saved to a lower version so they can be accessed by those with the earlier Frame product. Because of the multi-generational difference between FrameMaker 2015 and Frame 11, I'm concerned that the newer product will not save files to the earlier level (FM11) that we here can use. Are my concerns valid or is everything hunky-dory? And no, the Chinese management at my office will definitely NOT (i.e., no way, nada, hell-no!, etc.) upgrade my department of three American writers with the new product. The Chinese business model (or at least the one my company follows) is to cut costs but hope for increased sales. I'll be glad to discuss that issue off-list. -- Ken in Atlanta ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions
The translation department at my company's home office in China is considering to obtain FrameMaker 2015. That's the best wording I can use for this because I'm sure all of us are aware of the hacking in that country, so I can't speak for how they'll get the software. (My company is absolutely humongous in China with offices worldwide, but operates as if the staff consists of only four or five minimum-wage peons. Sort of how Scrooge treated Marley in The Christmas Carol.) My office is in metro Atlanta and we use "FrameMaker Version 11.0," with really no problems — though I wish we didn't have to jump through hoops to archive [book-build] a finished manual. (Even then, those archives have their own problems with duplicates of some files in different folders.) I already know that files created (or edited) in a newer version of Frame must be deliberately saved to a lower version so they can be accessed by those with the earlier Frame product. Because of the multi-generational difference between FrameMaker 2015 and Frame 11, I'm concerned that the newer product will not save files to the earlier level (FM11) that we here can use. Are my concerns valid or is everything hunky-dory? And no, the Chinese management at my office will definitely NOT (i.e., no way, nada, hell-no!, etc.) upgrade my department of three American writers with the new product. The Chinese business model (or at least the one my company follows) is to cut costs but hope for increased sales. I'll be glad to discuss that issue off-list. -- Ken in Atlanta ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
