Re: [Framers] Numbered List Issue (Trying fixes on Monday)
Thanks. I'll try the fixes I've been given on Monday Alison -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of david davidartman.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 5:06 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Framers] Numbered List Issue !---| This message is from an external sender This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. If you are not sure, you can use the ReportPhish Button to submit the message for analysis. |---! You have to use a fundamentally different approach. Explicitly declare the whole numbering scheme for your nested lists (2, in this example): Level 1 = N+, A0 Level 2 = N, A+ Use your procedure-introduction heading to reset those numbering lists. Yes, a heading can have a numbering scheme, vidilicit: N=0 A=0 So you never need a 'first number' style. Dumbest idea that the intern at Adobe ever came up with. (That intern might be a VP of development, now, so... Ooops!) Bonus: conversation to DITA will be easier without an artificial/superfluous reset style. HTH. I'm not at a keyboard, and I've been out of FM for yonks. But that approach is right. David DCA:d.a.d. Original message From: acr...@shaw.ca Date: 3/30/23 19:29 (GMT-05:00) To: Framers Subject: [Framers] Numbered List Issue Win 10 with FrameMaker 20 (not the latest Frame version as my company doesn't allow updates as they are released). I'm sure the answer to this is easy, but I can't figure it out. I have a list of numbered instructions. Within that list is an alpha sub-list under one of the instructions. When I finish the last alpha sub-list entry and revert to the numbered instruction list, the number continues counting from the last alpha bullet, not the previous numbered instruction. For example: 1. 2. 3. a) b) c) d) 5. Where "5" should actually be "4". The first numbered and alpha list steps have the following auto-numbering setups: .\t .\t Second and subsequent numbered and alpha list steps have the following auto-numbering setups: .\t .\t What am I doing wrong? Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.frameusers.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!p_23yrHzBBmQq1sGV3rmOm1TytT0qS07HtmJ1ylF2mvvglM69ZUP7kl1KGYmddaOSMsjidKLNkMymviPcTkTr3ubOQ$ Archives located at https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.mail-archive.com/framers*40lists.frameusers.com/__;JQ!!Oq50-tQ!p_23yrHzBBmQq1sGV3rmOm1TytT0qS07HtmJ1ylF2mvvglM69ZUP7kl1KGYmddaOSMsjidKLNkMymviPcTnfc_RgeA$ Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!p_23yrHzBBmQq1sGV3rmOm1TytT0qS07HtmJ1ylF2mvvglM69ZUP7kl1KGYmddaOSMsjidKLNkMymviPcTl0UAWCDw$ Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.frameusers.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!p_23yrHzBBmQq1sGV3rmOm1TytT0qS07HtmJ1ylF2mvvglM69ZUP7kl1KGYmddaOSMsjidKLNkMymviPcTkTr3ubOQ$ Archives located at https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.mail-archive.com/framers*40lists.frameusers.com/__;JQ!!Oq50-tQ!p_23yrHzBBmQq1sGV3rmOm1TytT0qS07HtmJ1ylF2mvvglM69ZUP7kl1KGYmddaOSMsjidKLNkMymviPcTnfc_RgeA$ Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!p_23yrHzBBmQq1sGV3rmOm1TytT0qS07HtmJ1ylF2mvvglM69ZUP7kl1KGYmddaOSMsjidKLNkMymviPcTl0UAWCDw$ Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Numbered List Issue
I knew there was a way to do it! I'll fix things on Monday - tomorrow I have to complete a different project. From: Alan Houser Sent: March 30, 2023 6:09 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Cc: acr...@shaw.ca Subject: Re: [Framers] Numbered List Issue Alison, The fix is fairly simple. You basically need to specify two counters in your numbered list formats; one for each list level. The first numbered and alpha list steps have the following auto-numbering setups: .\t This should be < =0>.\t (set the top-level list number to "1"; reset but do not print the second-level list number.) .\t You actually don't need this format. Each top-level list will resent the counter for the second-level list. If you did keep this format, it would be < >.\t Second and subsequent numbered and alpha list steps have the following auto-numbering setups: .\t This should be < =0>.\t (increment the first-level list number; reset but do not print the second-level list number) .\t This should be < >\t (maintain, but do not print, the first-level list number. Increment the second-level list). Once set up, FrameMaker's list numbering is rock-solid and reliable. Hope this helps! -Alan -- Alan Houser Group Wellesley, Inc. Consultant and Trainer, Technical Publishing arh on Twitter 412-450-0532 On Mar 30, 2023, at 7:28 PM, acr...@shaw.ca <mailto:acr...@shaw.ca> wrote: Win 10 with FrameMaker 20 (not the latest Frame version as my company doesn't allow updates as they are released). I'm sure the answer to this is easy, but I can't figure it out. I have a list of numbered instructions. Within that list is an alpha sub-list under one of the instructions. When I finish the last alpha sub-list entry and revert to the numbered instruction list, the number continues counting from the last alpha bullet, not the previous numbered instruction. For example: 1. 2. 3. a) b) c) d) 5. Where "5" should actually be "4". The first numbered and alpha list steps have the following auto-numbering setups: .\t .\t Second and subsequent numbered and alpha list steps have the following auto-numbering setups: .\t .\t What am I doing wrong? Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Numbered List Issue
Alison, The fix is fairly simple. You basically need to specify two counters in your numbered list formats; one for each list level. The first numbered and alpha list steps have the following auto-numbering setups: .\t This should be < =0>.\t (set the top-level list number to "1"; reset but do not print the second-level list number.) .\t You actually don't need this format. Each top-level list will resent the counter for the second-level list. If you did keep this format, it would be < >.\t Second and subsequent numbered and alpha list steps have the following auto-numbering setups: .\t This should be < =0>.\t (increment the first-level list number; reset but do not print the second-level list number) .\t This should be < >\t (maintain, but do not print, the first-level list number. Increment the second-level list). Once set up, FrameMaker's list numbering is rock-solid and reliable. Hope this helps! -Alan -- Alan Houser Group Wellesley, Inc. Consultant and Trainer, Technical Publishing arh on Twitter 412-450-0532 > On Mar 30, 2023, at 7:28 PM, acr...@shaw.ca wrote: > > Win 10 with FrameMaker 20 (not the latest Frame version as my company > doesn't allow updates as they are released). > > > > > > I'm sure the answer to this is easy, but I can't figure it out. > > > > I have a list of numbered instructions. Within that list is an alpha > sub-list under one of the instructions. > > > > When I finish the last alpha sub-list entry and revert to the numbered > instruction list, the number continues counting from the last alpha bullet, > not the previous numbered instruction. > > > > For example: > > > > 1. > > 2. > > 3. > > a) > > b) > > c) > > d) > > 5. > > > > Where "5" should actually be "4". > > > > The first numbered and alpha list steps have the following auto-numbering > setups: > > .\t > > .\t > > > > Second and subsequent numbered and alpha list steps have the following > auto-numbering setups: > > .\t > > .\t > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > Alison > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Numbered List Issue
You have to use a fundamentally different approach. Explicitly declare the whole numbering scheme for your nested lists (2, in this example): Level 1 = N+, A0 Level 2 = N, A+ Use your procedure-introduction heading to reset those numbering lists. Yes, a heading can have a numbering scheme, vidilicit: N=0 A=0 So you never need a 'first number' style. Dumbest idea that the intern at Adobe ever came up with. (That intern might be a VP of development, now, so... Ooops!) Bonus: conversation to DITA will be easier without an artificial/superfluous reset style. HTH. I'm not at a keyboard, and I've been out of FM for yonks. But that approach is right. David DCA:d.a.d. Original message From: acr...@shaw.ca Date: 3/30/23 19:29 (GMT-05:00) To: Framers Subject: [Framers] Numbered List Issue Win 10 with FrameMaker 20 (not the latest Frame version as my company doesn't allow updates as they are released). I'm sure the answer to this is easy, but I can't figure it out. I have a list of numbered instructions. Within that list is an alpha sub-list under one of the instructions. When I finish the last alpha sub-list entry and revert to the numbered instruction list, the number continues counting from the last alpha bullet, not the previous numbered instruction. For example: 1. 2. 3. a) b) c) d) 5. Where "5" should actually be "4". The first numbered and alpha list steps have the following auto-numbering setups: .\t .\t Second and subsequent numbered and alpha list steps have the following auto-numbering setups: .\t .\t What am I doing wrong? Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Numbered List Issue
Win 10 with FrameMaker 20 (not the latest Frame version as my company doesn't allow updates as they are released). I'm sure the answer to this is easy, but I can't figure it out. I have a list of numbered instructions. Within that list is an alpha sub-list under one of the instructions. When I finish the last alpha sub-list entry and revert to the numbered instruction list, the number continues counting from the last alpha bullet, not the previous numbered instruction. For example: 1. 2. 3. a) b) c) d) 5. Where "5" should actually be "4". The first numbered and alpha list steps have the following auto-numbering setups: .\t .\t Second and subsequent numbered and alpha list steps have the following auto-numbering setups: .\t .\t What am I doing wrong? Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
