Re: [Framers] image background problem

2020-09-18 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hi Ken,

support for transparency is better with newer FM versions, I’m not sure how 
FM10 yet supports PSD. Transparency should be supported when saving the PSD as 
EPS in Photoshop.

In any case: be aware that transparency is NOT previewd on screen. Even not 
with newer FM versions (I think only from FM2019?). To test the transparency 
you need a PostScript printer - or print to PDF using a PostScript printer 
driver. If you use any non-postscript printer (inktjet etc) transparency won’t 
work. 


Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
 
Wim Hooghwinkel





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> 
> But when I imported the new (psd) image to partly overlay another graphic 
> element on the first page of the FrameMaker 10 version of the newsletter, the 
> imported graphic still has that white area which overlays the other graphic 
> element. Which is what I don't want.

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Re: [Framers] image background problem

2020-09-16 Thread Doug
Try exporting from PS to SVG or EPS.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 8:07 PM Syed Zaeem Hosain 
wrote:

> If you are using JPEG format, these files do not have transparent
> backgrounds ... if so, use PNG format for the images.
>
> Z
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 3:30 PM
> To: FrameMaker Users List 
> Subject: [Framers] image background problem
>
> A question about an image technique that I've never been able to master
> but it seems everybody else has -- dropping out a white background. I've
> been assigned with producing a company newsletter formerly done in Word.
> And though I do use Word when I have to, I'm 22 years into FrameMaker and
> -- other than this -- it's usually so damn easy to do these things in Frame.
>
> The original newsletter (in Word) has a colorful banner with lettering
> across top of the first page. I can copy the main graphic element (a
> stylized color bar with a curved lower edge, similar to the Nike "swoosh")
> from the Word file and paste it onto the top of page 1 of the new Frame
> file, but I need to delete a white area from the lower portion of that
> graphic (easier shown than described; contact me off-list and we can do a
> share-screen Zoom thing so I can show you what I mean).
>
> I used Adobe Photoshop CS4 to "apparently" successfully delete that white
> portion from that jpg file; the formerly white area of the original image
> is now the familiar grey checkerboard. I saved that modified image as a psd
> file.
>
> But when I imported the new (psd) image to partly overlay another graphic
> element on the first page of the FrameMaker 10 version of the newsletter,
> the imported graphic still has that white area which overlays the other
> graphic element. Which is what I don't want.
>
> What didn't I do or what am I doing wrong? Whatever was done in Word
> should more easily be done in Frame, or so I thought.
>
> Help please?
> -- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: [Framers] image background problem

2020-09-16 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
If you are using JPEG format, these files do not have transparent backgrounds 
... if so, use PNG format for the images.

Z

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 3:30 PM
To: FrameMaker Users List 
Subject: [Framers] image background problem

A question about an image technique that I've never been able to master but it 
seems everybody else has -- dropping out a white background. I've been assigned 
with producing a company newsletter formerly done in Word. And though I do use 
Word when I have to, I'm 22 years into FrameMaker and -- other than this -- 
it's usually so damn easy to do these things in Frame.

The original newsletter (in Word) has a colorful banner with lettering across 
top of the first page. I can copy the main graphic element (a stylized color 
bar with a curved lower edge, similar to the Nike "swoosh") from the Word file 
and paste it onto the top of page 1 of the new Frame file, but I need to delete 
a white area from the lower portion of that graphic (easier shown than 
described; contact me off-list and we can do a share-screen Zoom thing so I can 
show you what I mean).

I used Adobe Photoshop CS4 to "apparently" successfully delete that white 
portion from that jpg file; the formerly white area of the original image is 
now the familiar grey checkerboard. I saved that modified image as a psd file. 

But when I imported the new (psd) image to partly overlay another graphic 
element on the first page of the FrameMaker 10 version of the newsletter, the 
imported graphic still has that white area which overlays the other graphic 
element. Which is what I don't want.

What didn't I do or what am I doing wrong? Whatever was done in Word should 
more easily be done in Frame, or so I thought.

Help please?
-- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: [Framers] image background problem

2020-09-16 Thread Dennis Hays
Try saving the file as a PNG file. JPG files always produce a white b/g 
when saved.


Dennis


On September 16, 2020 6:30:46 PM Ken Poshedly  wrote:

A question about an image technique that I've never been able to master but 
it seems everybody else has -- dropping out a white background. I've been 
assigned with producing a company newsletter formerly done in Word. And 
though I do use Word when I have to, I'm 22 years into FrameMaker and -- 
other than this -- it's usually so damn easy to do these things in Frame.


The original newsletter (in Word) has a colorful banner with lettering 
across top of the first page. I can copy the main graphic element (a 
stylized color bar with a curved lower edge, similar to the Nike "swoosh") 
from the Word file and paste it onto the top of page 1 of the new Frame 
file, but I need to delete a white area from the lower portion of that 
graphic (easier shown than described; contact me off-list and we can do a 
share-screen Zoom thing so I can show you what I mean).


I used Adobe Photoshop CS4 to "apparently" successfully delete that white 
portion from that jpg file; the formerly white area of the original image 
is now the familiar grey checkerboard. I saved that modified image as a psd 
file.


But when I imported the new (psd) image to partly overlay another graphic 
element on the first page of the FrameMaker 10 version of the newsletter, 
the imported graphic still has that white area which overlays the other 
graphic element. Which is what I don't want.


What didn't I do or what am I doing wrong? Whatever was done in Word should 
more easily be done in Frame, or so I thought.


Help please?
-- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: [Framers] image background problem

2020-09-16 Thread Mike Wickham
Ken, I think what you probably need to do is to add a "clipping path." I 
haven't used PSDs in FrameMaker-- I've always saved graphics as EPS-- 
but transparency was never honored for me without a clipping path.


Mike Wickham

On 9/16/2020 5:29 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:

A question about an image technique that I've never been able to master but it 
seems everybody else has -- dropping out a white background. I've been assigned 
with producing a company newsletter formerly done in Word. And though I do use 
Word when I have to, I'm 22 years into FrameMaker and -- other than this -- 
it's usually so damn easy to do these things in Frame.

The original newsletter (in Word) has a colorful banner with lettering across top of the 
first page. I can copy the main graphic element (a stylized color bar with a curved lower 
edge, similar to the Nike "swoosh") from the Word file and paste it onto the 
top of page 1 of the new Frame file, but I need to delete a white area from the lower 
portion of that graphic (easier shown than described; contact me off-list and we can do a 
share-screen Zoom thing so I can show you what I mean).

I used Adobe Photoshop CS4 to "apparently" successfully delete that white 
portion from that jpg file; the formerly white area of the original image is now the 
familiar grey checkerboard. I saved that modified image as a psd file.

But when I imported the new (psd) image to partly overlay another graphic 
element on the first page of the FrameMaker 10 version of the newsletter, the 
imported graphic still has that white area which overlays the other graphic 
element. Which is what I don't want.

What didn't I do or what am I doing wrong? Whatever was done in Word should 
more easily be done in Frame, or so I thought.

Help please?
-- Ken in Atlanta
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[Framers] image background problem

2020-09-16 Thread Ken Poshedly
A question about an image technique that I've never been able to master but it 
seems everybody else has -- dropping out a white background. I've been assigned 
with producing a company newsletter formerly done in Word. And though I do use 
Word when I have to, I'm 22 years into FrameMaker and -- other than this -- 
it's usually so damn easy to do these things in Frame.

The original newsletter (in Word) has a colorful banner with lettering across 
top of the first page. I can copy the main graphic element (a stylized color 
bar with a curved lower edge, similar to the Nike "swoosh") from the Word file 
and paste it onto the top of page 1 of the new Frame file, but I need to delete 
a white area from the lower portion of that graphic (easier shown than 
described; contact me off-list and we can do a share-screen Zoom thing so I can 
show you what I mean).

I used Adobe Photoshop CS4 to "apparently" successfully delete that white 
portion from that jpg file; the formerly white area of the original image is 
now the familiar grey checkerboard. I saved that modified image as a psd file. 

But when I imported the new (psd) image to partly overlay another graphic 
element on the first page of the FrameMaker 10 version of the newsletter, the 
imported graphic still has that white area which overlays the other graphic 
element. Which is what I don't want.

What didn't I do or what am I doing wrong? Whatever was done in Word should 
more easily be done in Frame, or so I thought.

Help please?
-- Ken in Atlanta
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