Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Dave.Stamm
2013-04-26-05T13:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1
Processor:  2.80 GHz
RAM:  4.00 GB
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.1.382, stand-alone (AFAIK), installed on workstation
.book and .fm files on server on LAN per corporate requirement

I seldom need to create a structured book, and I first encountered this problem 
at least four years ago using (probably version 7.2 or 8).  Only twice have I 
succeeded.  I am completely at a loss as to why my success rate is so low.

FrameMaker help for version 11, as best I can tell, does not even treat the 
subject of creating a structured _book_.  Neither does the application 
developers guide for 7.2.  These references include information about 
structured _files_ - but not structured _books_.  If found nothing in the 
FrameUsers archive and using FrameUsers search.

I reverted to consulting version 7 help.  I followed the instructions in it 
under Creating structured book files and under Adding files to structured 
books.

The files in the book are structured.  They are associated with the correct 
structured application.  I have produced a .edd file from the applicable .dtd 
file.  I have imported element definitions from the .edd into the files and 
into the book file.  (One of the files is problematic in that when I try to 
import element definitions into it, FrameMaker crashes.  I Mif washed that 
file to no good effect.  I do not believe that this problematic file is related 
to my inability to create a structured _book_.)

In the book window, the book is as I named it, as I fully expect.  In the book 
window, I choose the entry for the book, and I display the Structure View 
window.  In the Structure View window, the parent element is NoName, and all 
the entire book is indicated as not valid.

I cannot change the name of NoName, and I cannot get FrameMaker to recognize 
it as the parent element.  It seems as though I can get to square two or 
three but not further.

Help, please.

¡Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
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RE: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Dave,

After you add the structured files to the book, you have to update the book,
then the correct elements should show up in the structure view and element
catalog. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you
very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
r...@frameexpert.com



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Subject: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T13:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1
Processor:  2.80 GHz
RAM:  4.00 GB
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.1.382, stand-alone (AFAIK), installed on workstation .book
and .fm files on server on LAN per corporate requirement

I seldom need to create a structured book, and I first encountered this
problem at least four years ago using (probably version 7.2 or 8).  Only
twice have I succeeded.  I am completely at a loss as to why my success rate
is so low.

FrameMaker help for version 11, as best I can tell, does not even treat the
subject of creating a structured _book_.  Neither does the application
developers guide for 7.2.  These references include information about
structured _files_ - but not structured _books_.  If found nothing in the
FrameUsers archive and using FrameUsers search.

I reverted to consulting version 7 help.  I followed the instructions in it
under Creating structured book files and under Adding files to structured
books.

The files in the book are structured.  They are associated with the correct
structured application.  I have produced a .edd file from the applicable
.dtd file.  I have imported element definitions from the .edd into the files
and into the book file.  (One of the files is problematic in that when I try
to import element definitions into it, FrameMaker crashes.  I Mif washed
that file to no good effect.  I do not believe that this problematic file is
related to my inability to create a structured _book_.)

In the book window, the book is as I named it, as I fully expect.  In the
book window, I choose the entry for the book, and I display the Structure
View window.  In the Structure View window, the parent element is NoName,
and all the entire book is indicated as not valid.

I cannot change the name of NoName, and I cannot get FrameMaker to
recognize it as the parent element.  It seems as though I can get to square
two or three but not further.

Help, please.

¡Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
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RE: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Dave.Stamm
2013-04-26-05T13:45Z

Rick -

Yes; thanks for mentioning.  I failed to remember and to mention that when I 
try to update the book, FrameMaker hangs.  It's hanging as I write this.  I 
have to use Task Manager to end process and force FrameMaker out.

So, now, the problematic file becomes a likely suspect.

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] 
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 09:35
To: Stamm, David-P45904; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

Hi Dave,

After you add the structured files to the book, you have to update the book, 
then the correct elements should show up in the structure view and element 
catalog. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you 
very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
r...@frameexpert.com



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Subject: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T13:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1
Processor:  2.80 GHz
RAM:  4.00 GB
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.1.382, stand-alone (AFAIK), installed on workstation .book and 
.fm files on server on LAN per corporate requirement

I seldom need to create a structured book, and I first encountered this problem 
at least four years ago using (probably version 7.2 or 8).  Only twice have I 
succeeded.  I am completely at a loss as to why my success rate is so low.

FrameMaker help for version 11, as best I can tell, does not even treat the 
subject of creating a structured _book_.  Neither does the application 
developers guide for 7.2.  These references include information about 
structured _files_ - but not structured _books_.  If found nothing in the 
FrameUsers archive and using FrameUsers search.

I reverted to consulting version 7 help.  I followed the instructions in it 
under Creating structured book files and under Adding files to structured 
books.

The files in the book are structured.  They are associated with the correct 
structured application.  I have produced a .edd file from the applicable .dtd 
file.  I have imported element definitions from the .edd into the files and 
into the book file.  (One of the files is problematic in that when I try to 
import element definitions into it, FrameMaker crashes.  I Mif washed
that file to no good effect.  I do not believe that this problematic file is 
related to my inability to create a structured _book_.)

In the book window, the book is as I named it, as I fully expect.  In the book 
window, I choose the entry for the book, and I display the Structure View 
window.  In the Structure View window, the parent element is NoName, and all 
the entire book is indicated as not valid.

I cannot change the name of NoName, and I cannot get FrameMaker to recognize 
it as the parent element.  It seems as though I can get to square two or 
three but not further.

Help, please.

¡Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
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Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Dave.Stamm
2013-04-26-05T14:20Z

I have sorted out the problematic file and have updated the book, but no joy.  
Element NoName persists and resists.

Dave Stamm
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General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Dave.Stamm
2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
  
SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as NoName.

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
NoName.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose NoName.  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes NoName to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, ¡The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy  paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
  
SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as NoName.

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
NoName.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose NoName.  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes NoName to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, ¡The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Use the Discuss This Page functionality on the help pages (they also echo in 
a strangely annoying way to the Adobe Forums) and Adobe's tech writing team 
monitors the suggestions for the next build of the help.


From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:08 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

How does a customer/user go about making changes on an Adobe website?  And if 
this is not possible for an arbitrary individual to do, who is the us you 
refer to who have the capability to paste someone else's text into a page of 
their site?

-Fred Ridder

 From: jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:33:42 -0400
 Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

 If you indicate which page in the help system 
 (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
 you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy  paste your 
 text.

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 dave.st...@gdc4s.com
 Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

 2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

 Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

 ¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
 procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

 NOTE: This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with Rick 
 Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
 Files added to the book do not have to be valid.

 SYMPTOM
 In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
 top-level element in the book as NoName.

 MALFUNCTION
 The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

 CORRECTIVE ACTION
 1. After adding structured files to the book, update the book. In the 
 Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level 
 element in each file. The program displays the top-level element in the book 
 as NoName.

 2. In the Structure View window, choose NoName. In the Edit Attributes 
 window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button. The Set Available 
 Elements window appears.

 3. In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
 Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
 choose the Set button. The program sets and displays the available elements.

 4. On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book. The 
 program changes NoName to the name of the chosen element.

 5. In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

 Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro. As many others have written before, ¡The 
 contributors to this list are the _best_!

 Dave Stamm
 Information Engineer
 General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
 Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
 Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; US
 tel: 260-434-9620 fax: 260.434.9501 / 9509
 dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Dave.Stamm
2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

I have FrameMaker help in a portable document format file.  Near the bottom of 
PDF p 440 of 615, I added a Sticky Note containing the procedure.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 13:34
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book


 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy  paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
  
SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as NoName.

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
NoName.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose NoName.  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes NoName to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, ¡The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Dave.Stamm
2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

 

For security reasons, my employer impedes getting to the on-line version of 
help.

 

Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 14:14
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

 

Use the Discuss This Page functionality on the help pages (they also echo in 
a strangely annoying way to the Adobe Forums) and Adobe's tech writing team 
monitors the suggestions for the next build of the help.

 



From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:08 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

How does a customer/user go about making changes on an Adobe website?  And if 
this is not possible for an arbitrary individual to do, who is the us you 
refer to who have the capability to paste someone else's text into a page of 
their site?

-Fred Ridder

 From: jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:33:42 -0400
 Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book
 
 If you indicate which page in the help system 
 (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
 you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy  paste your 
 text.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 dave.st...@gdc4s.com
 Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book
 
 2013-04-26-05T17:25Z
 
 Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.
 
 ¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
 procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?
 
 NOTE: This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with Rick 
 Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
 Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
 
 SYMPTOM
 In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
 top-level element in the book as NoName.
 
 MALFUNCTION
 The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.
 
 CORRECTIVE ACTION
 1. After adding structured files to the book, update the book. In the 
 Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level 
 element in each file. The program displays the top-level element in the book 
 as NoName.
 
 2. In the Structure View window, choose NoName. In the Edit Attributes 
 window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button. The Set Available 
 Elements window appears.
 
 3. In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
 Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
 choose the Set button. The program sets and displays the available elements.
 
 4. On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book. The 
 program changes NoName to the name of the chosen element.
 
 5. In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.
 
 Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro. As many others have written before, ¡The 
 contributors to this list are the _best_!
 
 Dave Stamm
 Information Engineer
 General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
 Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
 Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; US
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RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Can you give me the heading of the section? - mine says XML with FrameMaker 
and Create, open, and save XML files

-Original Message-
From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com [mailto:dave.st...@gdc4s.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:21 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

I have FrameMaker help in a portable document format file.  Near the bottom of 
PDF p 440 of 615, I added a Sticky Note containing the procedure.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 13:34
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book


 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy  paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
  
SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as NoName.

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
NoName.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose NoName.  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes NoName to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, ¡The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
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RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Done 

-Original Message-
From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com [mailto:dave.st...@gdc4s.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:36 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T18:35Z

Jeff -

Yep:  I put my Sticky Note into the left margin aligned with XML with 
FrameMaker

Good luck and regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
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Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 14:34
To: Stamm, David-P45904; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

Can you give me the heading of the section? - mine says XML with FrameMaker 
and Create, open, and save XML files

-Original Message-
From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com [mailto:dave.st...@gdc4s.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:21 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

I have FrameMaker help in a portable document format file.  Near the bottom of 
PDF p 440 of 615, I added a Sticky Note containing the procedure.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 13:34
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book


 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy  paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
  
SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as NoName.

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
NoName.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose NoName.  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes NoName to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, ¡The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
2013-04-26-05T13:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1
Processor:  2.80?GHz
RAM:  4.00?GB
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.1.382, stand-alone (AFAIK), installed on workstation
.book and .fm files on server on LAN per corporate requirement

I seldom need to create a structured book, and I first encountered this problem 
at least four years ago using (probably version 7.2 or 8).  Only twice have I 
succeeded.  I am completely at a loss as to why my success rate is so low.

FrameMaker help for version 11, as best I can tell, does not even treat the 
subject of creating a structured _book_.  Neither does the application 
developers guide for 7.2.  These references include information about 
structured _files_?- but not structured _books_.  If found nothing in the 
FrameUsers archive and using FrameUsers search.

I reverted to consulting version 7 help.  I followed the instructions in it 
under "Creating structured book files" and under "Adding files to structured 
books."

The files in the book are structured.  They are associated with the correct 
structured application.  I have produced a .edd file from the applicable .dtd 
file.  I have imported element definitions from the .edd into the files and 
into the book file.  (One of the files is problematic in that when I try to 
import element definitions into it, FrameMaker crashes.  I "Mif washed" that 
file to no good effect.  I do not believe that this problematic file is related 
to my inability to create a structured _book_.)

In the book window, the book is as I named it, as I fully expect.  In the book 
window, I choose the entry for the book, and I display the Structure View 
window.  In the Structure View window, the parent element is , and all 
the entire book is indicated as not valid.

I cannot change the name of , and I cannot get FrameMaker to recognize 
it as the parent element.  It seems as though I can "get to square two or 
three" but not further.

Help, please.

?Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Dave,

After you add the structured files to the book, you have to update the book,
then the correct elements should show up in the structure view and element
catalog. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you
very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com



-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T13:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1
Processor:  2.80?GHz
RAM:  4.00?GB
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.1.382, stand-alone (AFAIK), installed on workstation .book
and .fm files on server on LAN per corporate requirement

I seldom need to create a structured book, and I first encountered this
problem at least four years ago using (probably version 7.2 or 8).  Only
twice have I succeeded.  I am completely at a loss as to why my success rate
is so low.

FrameMaker help for version 11, as best I can tell, does not even treat the
subject of creating a structured _book_.  Neither does the application
developers guide for 7.2.  These references include information about
structured _files_?- but not structured _books_.  If found nothing in the
FrameUsers archive and using FrameUsers search.

I reverted to consulting version 7 help.  I followed the instructions in it
under "Creating structured book files" and under "Adding files to structured
books."

The files in the book are structured.  They are associated with the correct
structured application.  I have produced a .edd file from the applicable
.dtd file.  I have imported element definitions from the .edd into the files
and into the book file.  (One of the files is problematic in that when I try
to import element definitions into it, FrameMaker crashes.  I "Mif washed"
that file to no good effect.  I do not believe that this problematic file is
related to my inability to create a structured _book_.)

In the book window, the book is as I named it, as I fully expect.  In the
book window, I choose the entry for the book, and I display the Structure
View window.  In the Structure View window, the parent element is ,
and all the entire book is indicated as not valid.

I cannot change the name of , and I cannot get FrameMaker to
recognize it as the parent element.  It seems as though I can "get to square
two or three" but not further.

Help, please.

?Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
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Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
2013-04-26-05T13:45Z

Rick -

Yes; thanks for mentioning.  I failed to remember and to mention that when I 
try to update the book, FrameMaker hangs.  It's hanging as I write this.  I 
have to use Task Manager to end process and force FrameMaker out.

So, now, the problematic file becomes a likely suspect.

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] 
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 09:35
To: Stamm, David-P45904; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

Hi Dave,

After you add the structured files to the book, you have to update the book, 
then the correct elements should show up in the structure view and element 
catalog. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you 
very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com



-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dave.Stamm at 
gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T13:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1
Processor:  2.80?GHz
RAM:  4.00?GB
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.1.382, stand-alone (AFAIK), installed on workstation .book and 
.fm files on server on LAN per corporate requirement

I seldom need to create a structured book, and I first encountered this problem 
at least four years ago using (probably version 7.2 or 8).  Only twice have I 
succeeded.  I am completely at a loss as to why my success rate is so low.

FrameMaker help for version 11, as best I can tell, does not even treat the 
subject of creating a structured _book_.  Neither does the application 
developers guide for 7.2.  These references include information about 
structured _files_?- but not structured _books_.  If found nothing in the 
FrameUsers archive and using FrameUsers search.

I reverted to consulting version 7 help.  I followed the instructions in it 
under "Creating structured book files" and under "Adding files to structured 
books."

The files in the book are structured.  They are associated with the correct 
structured application.  I have produced a .edd file from the applicable .dtd 
file.  I have imported element definitions from the .edd into the files and 
into the book file.  (One of the files is problematic in that when I try to 
import element definitions into it, FrameMaker crashes.  I "Mif washed"
that file to no good effect.  I do not believe that this problematic file is 
related to my inability to create a structured _book_.)

In the book window, the book is as I named it, as I fully expect.  In the book 
window, I choose the entry for the book, and I display the Structure View 
window.  In the Structure View window, the parent element is , and all 
the entire book is indicated as not valid.

I cannot change the name of , and I cannot get FrameMaker to recognize 
it as the parent element.  It seems as though I can "get to square two or 
three" but not further.

Help, please.

?Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
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Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
2013-04-26-05T14:20Z

I have sorted out the problematic file and have updated the book, but no joy.  
Element  persists and resists.

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501?/ 9509
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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

?Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.

SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "?The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501?/ 9509
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
text.

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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

?Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.

SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "?The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501?/ 9509
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Use the "Discuss This Page" functionality on the help pages (they also echo in 
a strangely annoying way to the Adobe Forums) and Adobe's tech writing team 
monitors the suggestions for the next build of the help.


From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:08 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

How does a customer/user go about making changes on an Adobe website?  And if 
this is not possible for an arbitrary individual to do, who is the "us" you 
refer to who have the capability to paste someone else's text into a page of 
their site?

-Fred Ridder

> From: jeff.coatsworth at jonassoftware.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:33:42 -0400
> Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book
>
> If you indicate which page in the help system 
> (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
> you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
> text.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book
>
> 2013-04-26-05T17:25Z
>
> Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.
>
> ?Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
> procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?
>
> NOTE: This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with Rick 
> Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
> Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
>
> SYMPTOM
> In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
> top-level element in the book as .
>
> MALFUNCTION
> The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.
>
> CORRECTIVE ACTION
> 1. After adding structured files to the book, update the book. In the 
> Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level 
> element in each file. The program displays the top-level element in the book 
> as .
>
> 2. In the Structure View window, choose . In the Edit Attributes 
> window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button. The Set Available 
> Elements window appears.
>
> 3. In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
> Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
> choose the Set button. The program sets and displays the available elements.
>
> 4. On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book. The 
> program changes  to the name of the chosen element.
>
> 5. In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.
>
> Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro. As many others have written before, "?The 
> contributors to this list are the _best_!"
>
> Dave Stamm
> Information Engineer
> General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
> Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
> 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
> Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; US
> tel: 260-434-9620 fax: 260.434.9501 / 9509
> dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/
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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

I have FrameMaker help in a portable document format file.  Near the bottom of 
PDF p 440 of 615, I added a Sticky Note containing the procedure.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 13:34
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book


 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

?Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.

SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "?The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501?/ 9509
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
2013-04-26-05T18:20Z



For security reasons, my employer impedes getting to the on-line version of 
help.



Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer



From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 14:14
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book



Use the "Discuss This Page" functionality on the help pages (they also echo in 
a strangely annoying way to the Adobe Forums) and Adobe's tech writing team 
monitors the suggestions for the next build of the help.





From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:08 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

How does a customer/user go about making changes on an Adobe website?  And if 
this is not possible for an arbitrary individual to do, who is the "us" you 
refer to who have the capability to paste someone else's text into a page of 
their site?

-Fred Ridder

> From: jeff.coatsworth at jonassoftware.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:33:42 -0400
> Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book
> 
> If you indicate which page in the help system 
> (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
> you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
> text.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book
> 
> 2013-04-26-05T17:25Z
> 
> Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.
> 
> ?Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
> procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?
> 
> NOTE: This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with Rick 
> Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
> Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
> 
> SYMPTOM
> In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
> top-level element in the book as .
> 
> MALFUNCTION
> The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.
> 
> CORRECTIVE ACTION
> 1. After adding structured files to the book, update the book. In the 
> Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level 
> element in each file. The program displays the top-level element in the book 
> as .
> 
> 2. In the Structure View window, choose . In the Edit Attributes 
> window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button. The Set Available 
> Elements window appears.
> 
> 3. In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
> Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
> choose the Set button. The program sets and displays the available elements.
> 
> 4. On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book. The 
> program changes  to the name of the chosen element.
> 
> 5. In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.
> 
> Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro. As many others have written before, "?The 
> contributors to this list are the _best_!"
> 
> Dave Stamm
> Information Engineer
> General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
> Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
> 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
> Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; US
> tel: 260-434-9620 fax: 260.434.9501 / 9509
> dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/
> 
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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Can you give me the heading of the section? - mine says "XML with FrameMaker" 
and "Create, open, and save XML files"

-Original Message-
From: Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com [mailto:dave.st...@gdc4s.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:21 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

I have FrameMaker help in a portable document format file.  Near the bottom of 
PDF p 440 of 615, I added a Sticky Note containing the procedure.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 13:34
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book


 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

?Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.

SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "?The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501?/ 9509
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Done 

-Original Message-
From: Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com [mailto:dave.st...@gdc4s.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:36 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T18:35Z

Jeff -

Yep:  I put my Sticky Note into the left margin aligned with "XML with 
FrameMaker"

Good luck and regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501?/ 9509
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-Original Message-
From: Jeff Coatsworth [mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com] 
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 14:34
To: Stamm, David-P45904; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

Can you give me the heading of the section? - mine says "XML with FrameMaker" 
and "Create, open, and save XML files"

-Original Message-
From: Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com [mailto:dave.st...@gdc4s.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:21 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

I have FrameMaker help in a portable document format file.  Near the bottom of 
PDF p 440 of 615, I added a Sticky Note containing the procedure.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 13:34
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book


 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

?Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.

SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "?The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501?/ 9509
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

This message and / or attachments may include information subject to GDC4S S.P. 
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