Conditional Text used within a table with endnotes.
I have a table that consists of multiple rows. Each row of the table represents a specific condition. I currently have endnotes that appear at the end of the table. The first instance of each endnote is added via Special Endnote, there after I insert a cross-reference if . It should be noted that I want each letter to represent a different occurance of the end noted item. The problem that I am having is that when I turn the certain conditions off i.e., the instance that defined the endnote may or may not be included in the resulting document with conditions applied. I am sure I could remedy this via a separate table for each condition but that would mean more work trying to maintain the multiple tables. If for example I need to add another colum in the future I would have to do it for each table. The other option I considered is making a separarate set of endnotes for each condition. The downside of that is that if all of the endnotes labeled 2 needed to be updated I would have to go through them manually and fix them. I have tried the update references but it does not allow for starting or adjusting the numbering for those end notes that are not needed due to the conditions eliminating them. Sample Table CondtionA 1 ConditionA 2 ConditionA 1 ConditionB 2 ConditionC 1 1 This is endnote 1 2 This is endnote 2 I get : ConditionB 2 2 This is endnote 2 Not: ConditionB 1 (This was 2 but since 1 is not used as a condition it should be adjusted to 1 1 This is endnote 1 (This is actually the text for 2 but reads 1 since it is the first condition. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Text used within a table with endnotes.
I am having trouble following you. So the end notes are numbered and the numbering does not update as some are conditioned out? Have you tried saving the file and then generating/updating the book again? On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:11 PM, kgrace4...@aol.com wrote: I have a table that consists of multiple rows. Each row of the table represents a specific condition. I currently have endnotes that appear at the end of the table. The first instance of each endnote is added via Special Endnote, there after I insert a cross-reference if . It should be noted that I want each letter to represent a different occurance of the end noted item. The problem that I am having is that when I turn the certain conditions off i.e., the instance that defined the endnote may or may not be included in the resulting document with conditions applied. I am sure I could remedy this via a separate table for each condition but that would mean more work trying to maintain the multiple tables. If for example I need to add another colum in the future I would have to do it for each table. The other option I considered is making a separarate set of endnotes for each condition. The downside of that is that if all of the endnotes labeled 2 needed to be updated I would have to go through them manually and fix them. I have tried the update references but it does not allow for starting or adjusting the numbering for those end notes that are not needed due to the conditions eliminating them. Sample Table CondtionA 1 ConditionA 2 ConditionA 1 ConditionB 2 ConditionC 1 1 This is endnote 1 2 This is endnote 2 I get : ConditionB 2 2 This is endnote 2 Not: ConditionB 1 (This was 2 but since 1 is not used as a condition it should be adjusted to 1 1 This is endnote 1 (This is actually the text for 2 but reads 1 since it is the first condition. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as techcommd...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Bill Swallow Twitter: @techcommdood Blog: http://techcommdood.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood Available for contract and full time opportunities. STC Ideas: http://stcideas.ning.com Join: http://stcideas.ning.com/?xgi=6X1vNGI ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Text used within a table with endnotes.
I don't have FrameMaker available right now, so I'm working from memory, but AFAIK, there's no Special Endnote command in FrameMaker. Endnotes in FrameMaker are created by manually typing the notes somewhere in the current file, or a different file, in paragraphs that include the auto-numbering property. Usually end notes are placed at the end of the current file, or the separate file is placed at the end of a book. You can place the end notes after a table, if you like. The end note references are created by inserting cross-references to the notes with Special Cross-Reference, using a cross-reference format that captures the auto-number. Showing or hiding the cross-reference reference numbers - in the conditional table rows, in this case - has no effect on the auto-numbered paragraphs that are the cross-reference sources. If you want the end notes to appear and disappear when their reference numbers are shown and hidden, conditionalize the notes. If you want the end notes to remain in place and renumber when the conditonalized reference numbers are hidden or shown, you'll need to invent a strategy. However, I'm wondering if you're using table footnotes - they appear after a table. The visibility of table footnotes should depend upon the visibility of the table footnote source content. If you're using table footnotes, are you saying that the table footnotes aren't showing/hiding in response to the showing/hiding of the source content, and they are not renumbering? HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.com wrote: I am having trouble following you. So the end notes are numbered and the numbering does not update as some are conditioned out? Have you tried saving the file and then generating/updating the book again? On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:11 PM, kgrace4...@aol.com wrote: I have a table that consists of multiple rows. Each row of the table represents a specific condition. I currently have endnotes that appear at the end of the table. The first instance of each endnote is added via Special Endnote, there after I insert a cross-reference if . It should be noted that I want each letter to represent a different occurance of the end noted item. The problem that I am having is that when I turn the certain conditions off i.e., the instance that defined the endnote may or may not be included in the resulting document with conditions applied. I am sure I could remedy this via a separate table for each condition but that would mean more work trying to maintain the multiple tables. If for example I need to add another colum in the future I would have to do it for each table. The other option I considered is making a separarate set of endnotes for each condition. The downside of that is that if all of the endnotes labeled 2 needed to be updated I would have to go through them manually and fix them. I have tried the update references but it does not allow for starting or adjusting the numbering for those end notes that are not needed due to the conditions eliminating them. Sample Table CondtionA 1 ConditionA 2 ConditionA 1 ConditionB 2 ConditionC 1 1 This is endnote 1 2 This is endnote 2 I get : ConditionB 2 2 This is endnote 2 Not: ConditionB 1 (This was 2 but since 1 is not used as a condition it should be adjusted to 1 1 This is endnote 1 (This is actually the text for 2 but reads 1 since it is the first condition. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as techcommd...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Bill Swallow Twitter: @techcommdood Blog: http://techcommdood.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood Available for contract and full time opportunities. STC Ideas: http://stcideas.ning.com Join: http://stcideas.ning.com/?xgi=6X1vNGI ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as pe...@knowhowpro.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/peter%40knowhowpro.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank
Conditional Text used within a table with endnotes.
I have a table that consists of multiple rows. Each row of the table represents a specific condition. I currently have endnotes that appear at the end of the table. The first instance of each endnote is added via Special > Endnote, there after I insert a cross-reference if . It should be noted that I want each "letter" to represent a different occurance of the end noted item. The problem that I am having is that when I turn the certain conditions off i.e., the instance that "defined" the endnote may or may not be included in the resulting document with conditions applied. I am sure I could remedy this via a separate table for each condition but that would mean more work trying to maintain the multiple tables. If for example I need to add another colum in the future I would have to do it for each table. The other option I considered is making a separarate set of endnotes for each condition. The downside of that is that if all of the endnotes labeled "2" needed to be updated I would have to go through them manually and fix them. I have tried the update references but it does not allow for starting or adjusting the numbering for those end notes that are not needed due to the conditions eliminating them. Sample Table CondtionA 1 ConditionA 2 ConditionA 1 ConditionB 2 ConditionC 1 1 This is endnote 1 2 This is endnote 2 I get : ConditionB 2 2 This is endnote 2 Not: ConditionB 1 (This was 2 but since 1 is not used as a condition it should be adjusted to 1 1 This is endnote 1 (This is actually the text for 2 but reads 1 since it is the first condition.
Conditional Text used within a table with endnotes.
I am having trouble following you. So the end notes are numbered and the numbering does not update as some are conditioned out? Have you tried saving the file and then generating/updating the book again? On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:11 PM, wrote: > I have a table that consists of multiple rows. ?Each row of the table > represents a specific condition. ? I currently have endnotes that > appear at the end of the table. The first instance of each endnote is > added via Special > Endnote, there after I insert a cross-reference if > . It should be noted that I want each "letter" to represent a different > occurance of the end noted item. The problem that I am having is that > when I turn the certain conditions off i.e., the instance that > "defined" the endnote may or may not be included in the resulting > document with conditions applied. > > I am sure I could remedy this via a separate table for each condition > but that would mean more work trying to maintain the multiple tables. > If ?for example I need to add another colum in the future I would have > to do it for each table. The other option I considered is making a > separarate set of endnotes for each condition. ?The downside of that is > that if all of the endnotes labeled "2" needed to be updated I would > have to go through them manually and fix them. > > I have tried the update references but it does not allow for starting > or adjusting the numbering for those end notes that are not needed due > to the conditions eliminating them. > > Sample Table > > CondtionA 1 > ConditionA 2 > ConditionA 1 > ConditionB 2 > ConditionC 1 > > > 1 This is endnote 1 > 2 This is endnote 2 > > > > I get : > > ConditionB 2 > > > > 2 This is endnote 2 > > > > Not: > > > ConditionB 1 ?(This was 2 but since 1 is not used as a condition it > should be adjusted to 1 > > 1 This is endnote 1 (This is actually the text for 2 but reads 1 since > it is the first condition. > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as techcommdood at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Bill Swallow Twitter: @techcommdood Blog: http://techcommdood.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood Available for contract and full time opportunities. STC Ideas: http://stcideas.ning.com Join: http://stcideas.ning.com/?xgi=6X1vNGI
Conditional Text used within a table with endnotes.
I don't have FrameMaker available right now, so I'm working from memory, but AFAIK, there's no Special > Endnote command in FrameMaker. Endnotes in FrameMaker are created by manually typing the notes somewhere in the current file, or a different file, in paragraphs that include the auto-numbering property. Usually end notes are placed at the end of the current file, or the separate file is placed at the end of a book. You can place the end notes after a table, if you like. The end note references are created by inserting cross-references to the notes with Special > Cross-Reference, using a cross-reference format that captures the auto-number. Showing or hiding the cross-reference reference numbers - in the conditional table rows, in this case - has no effect on the auto-numbered paragraphs that are the cross-reference sources. If you want the end notes to appear and disappear when their reference numbers are shown and hidden, conditionalize the notes. If you want the end notes to remain in place and renumber when the conditonalized reference numbers are hidden or shown, you'll need to invent a strategy. However, I'm wondering if you're using table footnotes - they appear after a table. The visibility of table footnotes should depend upon the visibility of the table footnote source content. If you're using table footnotes, are you saying that the table footnotes aren't showing/hiding in response to the showing/hiding of the source content, and they are not renumbering? HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Bill Swallow wrote: > I am having trouble following you. So the end notes are numbered and > the numbering does not update as some are conditioned out? Have you > tried saving the file and then generating/updating the book again? > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:11 PM, ? wrote: >> I have a table that consists of multiple rows. ?Each row of the table >> represents a specific condition. ? I currently have endnotes that >> appear at the end of the table. The first instance of each endnote is >> added via Special > Endnote, there after I insert a cross-reference if >> . It should be noted that I want each "letter" to represent a different >> occurance of the end noted item. The problem that I am having is that >> when I turn the certain conditions off i.e., the instance that >> "defined" the endnote may or may not be included in the resulting >> document with conditions applied. >> >> I am sure I could remedy this via a separate table for each condition >> but that would mean more work trying to maintain the multiple tables. >> If ?for example I need to add another colum in the future I would have >> to do it for each table. The other option I considered is making a >> separarate set of endnotes for each condition. ?The downside of that is >> that if all of the endnotes labeled "2" needed to be updated I would >> have to go through them manually and fix them. >> >> I have tried the update references but it does not allow for starting >> or adjusting the numbering for those end notes that are not needed due >> to the conditions eliminating them. >> >> Sample Table >> >> CondtionA 1 >> ConditionA 2 >> ConditionA 1 >> ConditionB 2 >> ConditionC 1 >> >> >> 1 This is endnote 1 >> 2 This is endnote 2 >> >> >> >> I get : >> >> ConditionB 2 >> >> >> >> 2 This is endnote 2 >> >> >> >> Not: >> >> >> ConditionB 1 ?(This was 2 but since 1 is not used as a condition it >> should be adjusted to 1 >> >> 1 This is endnote 1 (This is actually the text for 2 but reads 1 since >> it is the first condition. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as techcommdood at gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > > > -- > Bill Swallow > > Twitter: @techcommdood > Blog: http://techcommdood.com > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood > > Available for contract and full time opportunities. > > > STC Ideas: http://stcideas.ning.com > Join: http://stcideas.ning.com/?xgi=6X1vNGI > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as peter at knowhowpro.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/peter%40knowhowpro.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
