Cross-reference nightmare - help needed
HELP! Here we are on the bleeding edge of a deadline and my production guru who puts together our master PDF from multiple files of multiple stand-alone books has encountered one file with suddenly +70 broken cross-references to multiple different files (both from inside that file's original stand-alone set and others). He writes: Unfortunately, the only fix I can do is of the one-by-one manual type. The errors are odd: The messages say Cannot find the file etc., but as I dig down to the target / source I AM finding the referenced headings -- so they ARE there, they're not deleted -- but somehow over 70 of them were broken. Normally, since the target / sources are there, they would update automatically when the book is generated or x-refs are updated. I've tried to update the x-refs using a variety of techniques, but they simply won't update automatically like they should. Anybody have an idea what might have happened? Do you have a clue as to how to speed up fixing this sort of thing without having to visit each and every cross-ref? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Regards, Sage DeRosier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Objects ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cross-reference nightmare - help needed
In addition to Rene's ideas, I'd try to build the PDF with all component files open to eliminate any network delays, hangs, etc. Art On 3/22/07, Rene Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before reinserting, try just opening the FM files in the book, make sure any condition tags are set to the production settings, choose EditUpdate References and select All cross-references. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cross-reference nightmare - help needed
Hi Sage If you have tried all the obvious things, here's one more possibility. I've encountered FM documents with cross-references that have become corrupted because the the X-Refs contain legacy filenames for the target documents. I presume this arises because an earlier user renamed the target document using the Windows Explorer instead of from within FrameMaker. (I don't know this for sure - it's just an assumption on my part. Folks more knowledgable about the world of MIFs would know.) I've been able to solve this partiocular problem by looking inside the MIF of the document that is crashing the update and deleting the X-Ref(s) that contain the legacy filenames. Although you are getting a message that 70 X-Refs are broken, there might be only one that is blocking the update. At least, the last time this happened to me, that was the case. Will White One Lambda Inc CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and attachments,if any, are the sole property of One Lambda, Inc. and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise prohibited by law from disclosure or re-disclosure. This information is intended solely for the individuals or entities to whom this e-mail or attachments are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are prohibited from using, copying, saving or disclosing this information to anyone else. Please destroy the message and any attachments immediately and notify the sender by return e-mail. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cross-reference nightmare - help needed
Another possibility is that there has been a change in the file hierarchy between the Frame document and the linked files. Have there been any changes to the names or the permissions on the targeted files or the directories in which they reside, or has the master Frame file been moved? --William Sage DeRosier wrote: HELP! Here we are on the bleeding edge of a deadline and my production guru who puts together our master PDF from multiple files of multiple stand-alone books has encountered one file with suddenly +70 broken cross-references to multiple different files (both from inside that file's original stand-alone set and others). He writes: Unfortunately, the only fix I can do is of the one-by-one manual type. The errors are odd: The messages say Cannot find the file etc., but as I dig down to the target / source I AM finding the referenced headings -- so they ARE there, they're not deleted -- but somehow over 70 of them were broken. Normally, since the target / sources are there, they would update automatically when the book is generated or x-refs are updated. I've tried to update the x-refs using a variety of techniques, but they simply won't update automatically like they should. Anybody have an idea what might have happened? Do you have a clue as to how to speed up fixing this sort of thing without having to visit each and every cross-ref? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Regards, Sage DeRosier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Objects ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Cross-reference nightmare - help needed
HELP! Here we are on the bleeding edge of a deadline and my production guru who puts together our master PDF from multiple files of multiple stand-alone books has encountered one file with suddenly +70 broken cross-references to multiple different files (both from inside that file's original stand-alone set and others). He writes: Unfortunately, the only fix I can do is of the one-by-one manual type. The errors are odd: The messages say "Cannot find the file" etc., but as I dig down to the target / source I AM finding the referenced headings -- so they ARE there, they're not deleted -- but somehow over 70 of them were broken. Normally, since the target / sources are there, they would update automatically when the book is generated or x-refs are updated. I've tried to update the x-refs using a variety of techniques, but they simply won't update automatically like they should. Anybody have an idea what might have happened? Do you have a clue as to how to speed up fixing this sort of thing without having to visit each and every cross-ref? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Regards, Sage DeRosier sage.derosier at businessobjects.com Business Objects
Cross-reference nightmare - help needed
Before reinserting, try just opening the FM files in the book, make sure any condition tags are set to the production settings, choose Edit>Update References and select All cross-references. HTH Rene Stephenson Sage DeRosier wrote: HELP! Here we are on the bleeding edge of a deadline and my production guru who puts together our master PDF from multiple files of multiple stand-alone books has encountered one file with suddenly +70 broken cross-references to multiple different files (both from inside that file's original stand-alone set and others). He writes: Unfortunately, the only fix I can do is of the one-by-one manual type. The errors are odd: The messages say "Cannot find the file" etc., but as I dig down to the target / source I AM finding the referenced headings -- so they ARE there, they're not deleted -- but somehow over 70 of them were broken. Normally, since the target / sources are there, they would update automatically when the book is generated or x-refs are updated. I've tried to update the x-refs using a variety of techniques, but they simply won't update automatically like they should. Anybody have an idea what might have happened? Do you have a clue as to how to speed up fixing this sort of thing without having to visit each and every cross-ref? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Regards, Sage DeRosier sage.derosier at businessobjects.com Business Objects ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Rene L. Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. Business Phone: 678-513-0051 Email: rinnie1 at yahoo.com
Cross-reference nightmare - help needed
In addition to Rene's ideas, I'd try to build the PDF with all component files open to eliminate any network delays, hangs, etc. Art On 3/22/07, Rene Stephenson wrote: > Before reinserting, try just opening the FM files in the book, make sure any > condition tags are set to the production settings, choose Edit>Update > References and select All cross-references. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Cross-reference nightmare - help needed
Hi Sage If you have tried all the obvious things, here's one more possibility. I've encountered FM documents with cross-references that have become corrupted because the the X-Refs contain legacy filenames for the target documents. I presume this arises because an earlier user renamed the target document using the Windows Explorer instead of from within FrameMaker. (I don't know this for sure - it's just an assumption on my part. Folks more knowledgable about the world of MIFs would know.) I've been able to solve this partiocular problem by looking inside the MIF of the document that is crashing the update and deleting the X-Ref(s) that contain the legacy filenames. Although you are getting a message that 70 X-Refs are broken, there might be only one that is blocking the update. At least, the last time this happened to me, that was the case. Will White One Lambda Inc CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and attachments,if any, are the sole property of One Lambda, Inc. and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise prohibited by law from disclosure or re-disclosure. This information is intended solely for the individuals or entities to whom this e-mail or attachments are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are prohibited from using, copying, saving or disclosing this information to anyone else. Please destroy the message and any attachments immediately and notify the sender by return e-mail. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses.
Cross-reference nightmare - help needed
Another possibility is that there has been a change in the file hierarchy between the Frame document and the linked files. Have there been any changes to the names or the permissions on the targeted files or the directories in which they reside, or has the master Frame file been moved? --William Sage DeRosier wrote: > HELP! > > > > Here we are on the bleeding edge of a deadline and my production guru > who puts together our master PDF from multiple files of multiple > stand-alone books has encountered one file with suddenly +70 broken > cross-references to multiple different files (both from inside that > file's original stand-alone set and others). > > > > He writes: > > > > Unfortunately, the only fix I can do is of the one-by-one manual type. > The errors are odd: The messages say "Cannot find the file" etc., but as > I dig down to the target / source I AM finding the referenced headings > -- so they ARE there, they're not deleted -- but somehow over 70 of them > were broken. Normally, since the target / sources are there, they would > update automatically when the book is generated or x-refs are updated. > I've tried to update the x-refs using a variety of techniques, but they > simply won't update automatically like they should. > > > > Anybody have an idea what might have happened? Do you have a clue as to > how to speed up fixing this sort of thing without having to visit each > and every cross-ref? > > > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > > > Regards, > > Sage DeRosier > > sage.derosier at businessobjects.com > > Business Objects
