RE: Ctrl key issues
Hi, On my system (still Windows 2000) I can deactivate shortcuts for switching between different keyboard layouts. Very good as at least I switched to another layout now and then inadvertently. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Klaus Daube Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 12:38 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Ctrl key issues On 28 Nov 2009 at 0:13, Suzanne Bolduc wrote: all this to say... could it be that your Ctrl keys stop working as soon as, somehow, you pressed Left Alt + Shift (unknowingly)? Maybe check your Regional Options control panel, the text services configured on your system, and the language bar preferences... See if just pressing Left Alt + Shift once or twice could revive your Ctrl keys... Be aware, that for graphic work in FM you move an object with ALT+arrow and move it 6 notches by ALT+SHIFT+arrow. On _my_ system ALT+SHIFT switches the keyboard layout... FWIW Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Ctrl key issues
Hi, On my system (still Windows 2000) I can deactivate shortcuts for switching between different keyboard layouts. Very good as at least I switched to another layout now and then inadvertently. Best regards Winfried > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Klaus Daube > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 12:38 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Ctrl key issues > > On 28 Nov 2009 at 0:13, Suzanne Bolduc wrote: > > > all this to say... could it be that your Ctrl keys stop > working as soon > > as, somehow, you pressed Left Alt + Shift (unknowingly)? > Maybe check your > > Regional Options control panel, the text services configured on your > > system, and the language bar preferences... See if just > pressing Left Alt > > + Shift once or twice could revive your Ctrl keys... > > Be aware, that for graphic work in FM you move an object with > ALT+arrow and move it 6 notches > by ALT+SHIFT+arrow. On _my_ system ALT+SHIFT switches the > keyboard layout... > > FWIW > Klaus Daube > ~~ > Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich > Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper > F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: ddd at daube.ch W: www.daube.ch > > ___
Re: Ctrl key issues
I have this problem all the time. It seems like the Windows shortcuts are the ones that stop working. At the same time, when selecting text together with the shift key, it does not work properly. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Corinne Kenney wrote: FM 9 and FM 7.2 / Windows XP Pro Have battled with this over a year, and 3 laptops. My Ctrl keys stop working after about 15-20 minutes or less. No Ctrl + Z, X, C, M, and so on. Has anyone had this problem? Is it a setting within the laptop, or what? Any help is greatly appreciated. Corinne Kenney, Product Documentation OpenTV Golden CO ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Ctrl key issues
I have this problem all the time. It seems like the Windows shortcuts are the ones that stop working. At the same time, when selecting text together with the shift key, it does not work properly. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Corinne Kenney wrote: > FM 9 and FM 7.2 / Windows XP Pro > > Have battled with this over a year, and 3 laptops. My Ctrl keys stop working > after about 15-20 minutes or less. No Ctrl + Z, X, C, M, and so on. Has > anyone had this problem? Is it a setting within the laptop, or what? > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Corinne Kenney, Product Documentation > OpenTV > Golden CO > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
Re: Ctrl key issues
On 28 Nov 2009 at 0:13, Suzanne Bolduc wrote: all this to say... could it be that your Ctrl keys stop working as soon as, somehow, you pressed Left Alt + Shift (unknowingly)? Maybe check your Regional Options control panel, the text services configured on your system, and the language bar preferences... See if just pressing Left Alt + Shift once or twice could revive your Ctrl keys... Be aware, that for graphic work in FM you move an object with ALT+arrow and move it 6 notches by ALT+SHIFT+arrow. On _my_ system ALT+SHIFT switches the keyboard layout... FWIW Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Ctrl key issues
hi Corinne, do you happen to have alternate keyboard layouts configured on your system, other than the basic English (United States)? I have a few and I found that the one I use most often ? a customized version of the French (Canada) layout that includes Unicode characters (i.e. Esperanto's accented letters) ? interferes with the keyboard shortcuts *in FrameMaker only*. Soon after installing this keyboard layout, I realized I could not use Ctrl+Shift+V in FrameMaker anymore (nothing happens). At first I thought I would have to uninstall this custom layout and do without it, but then it dawned on me that I might as well just switch to English (Canada) by pressing Left Alt + Shift, the first time I need the shortcuts in FM. (I just cannot use FrameMaker to write in Esperanto.) all this to say... could it be that your Ctrl keys stop working as soon as, somehow, you pressed Left Alt + Shift (unknowingly)? Maybe check your Regional Options control panel, the text services configured on your system, and the language bar preferences... See if just pressing Left Alt + Shift once or twice could revive your Ctrl keys... it could also be something else... For instance, when I was using Remote Desktop Connection to acces a computer at work from my home computer, I would always end up losing both the Ctrl keys and the Shift keys at some point. Sometimes, just repeatedly going Left Ctrl, Right Ctrl a few times, and then Left Shift, Right Shift a few more times would revive the lost keys. (Appartently this was a known issue with Remote Desktop, at least at the time.) FWIW Suzanne Corinne Kenney wrote: > Actually, it happens ONLY in Frame. Other apps work fine. And it has followed > me over three laptops. It's weird > > --- On Fri, 11/27/09, Art Campbell wrote: > >> From: Art Campbell >> Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 11:03 AM >> >> When something like this has occurred on one of my systems, >> I usually find that it's ClipMate, SnagIt, or another >> add-in grabbing keystrokes before Frame can get to them. >> >> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:51 PM, >> Corinne Kenney wrote: >> >> >> FM 9 and FM 7.2 / Windows XP Pro >> Have battled with this over a year, and 3 laptops. My Ctrl >> keys stop working after about 15-20 minutes or less. No Ctrl >> + Z, X, C, M, and so on.
Ctrl key issues
On 28 Nov 2009 at 0:13, Suzanne Bolduc wrote: > all this to say... could it be that your Ctrl keys stop working as soon > as, somehow, you pressed Left Alt + Shift (unknowingly)? Maybe check your > Regional Options control panel, the text services configured on your > system, and the language bar preferences... See if just pressing Left Alt > + Shift once or twice could revive your Ctrl keys... Be aware, that for graphic work in FM you move an object with ALT+arrow and move it 6 notches by ALT+SHIFT+arrow. On _my_ system ALT+SHIFT switches the keyboard layout... FWIW Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: ddd at daube.ch W: www.daube.ch
Re: Ctrl key issues
I'd suspect something on the laptop because it happens for different aps. When something like this has occurred on one of my systems, I usually find that it's ClipMate, SnagIt, or another add-in grabbing keystrokes before Frame can get to them. If you have any aps that you know have hot keys running, you may want to disable them one at a time to ID the culprit. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Corinne Kenney skiken...@yahoo.comwrote: FM 9 and FM 7.2 / Windows XP Pro Have battled with this over a year, and 3 laptops. My Ctrl keys stop working after about 15-20 minutes or less. No Ctrl + Z, X, C, M, and so on. Has anyone had this problem? Is it a setting within the laptop, or what? Any help is greatly appreciated. Corinne Kenney, Product Documentation OpenTV Golden CO ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Ctrl key issues
Actually, it happens ONLY in Frame. Other apps work fine. And it has followed me over three laptops. It's weird --- On Fri, 11/27/09, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Ctrl key issues To: Corinne Kenney skiken...@yahoo.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 11:03 AM I'd suspect something on the laptop because it happens for different aps. When something like this has occurred on one of my systems, I usually find that it's ClipMate, SnagIt, or another add-in grabbing keystrokes before Frame can get to them. If you have any aps that you know have hot keys running, you may want to disable them one at a time to ID the culprit. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Corinne Kenney skiken...@yahoo.com wrote: FM 9 and FM 7.2 / Windows XP Pro Have battled with this over a year, and 3 laptops. My Ctrl keys stop working after about 15-20 minutes or less. No Ctrl + Z, X, C, M, and so on. Has anyone had this problem? Is it a setting within the laptop, or what? Any help is greatly appreciated. Corinne Kenney, Product Documentation OpenTV Golden CO ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Ctrl key issues
hi Corinne, do you happen to have alternate keyboard layouts configured on your system, other than the basic English (United States)? I have a few and I found that the one I use most often — a customized version of the French (Canada) layout that includes Unicode characters (i.e. Esperanto's accented letters) — interferes with the keyboard shortcuts *in FrameMaker only*. Soon after installing this keyboard layout, I realized I could not use Ctrl+Shift+V in FrameMaker anymore (nothing happens). At first I thought I would have to uninstall this custom layout and do without it, but then it dawned on me that I might as well just switch to English (Canada) by pressing Left Alt + Shift, the first time I need the shortcuts in FM. (I just cannot use FrameMaker to write in Esperanto.) all this to say... could it be that your Ctrl keys stop working as soon as, somehow, you pressed Left Alt + Shift (unknowingly)? Maybe check your Regional Options control panel, the text services configured on your system, and the language bar preferences... See if just pressing Left Alt + Shift once or twice could revive your Ctrl keys... it could also be something else... For instance, when I was using Remote Desktop Connection to acces a computer at work from my home computer, I would always end up losing both the Ctrl keys and the Shift keys at some point. Sometimes, just repeatedly going Left Ctrl, Right Ctrl a few times, and then Left Shift, Right Shift a few more times would revive the lost keys. (Appartently this was a known issue with Remote Desktop, at least at the time.) FWIW Suzanne Corinne Kenney wrote: Actually, it happens ONLY in Frame. Other apps work fine. And it has followed me over three laptops. It's weird --- On Fri, 11/27/09, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 11:03 AM When something like this has occurred on one of my systems, I usually find that it's ClipMate, SnagIt, or another add-in grabbing keystrokes before Frame can get to them. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Corinne Kenney wrote: FM 9 and FM 7.2 / Windows XP Pro Have battled with this over a year, and 3 laptops. My Ctrl keys stop working after about 15-20 minutes or less. No Ctrl + Z, X, C, M, and so on. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Ctrl key issues
I'd suspect something on the laptop because it happens for different aps. When something like this has occurred on one of my systems, I usually find that it's ClipMate, SnagIt, or another add-in grabbing keystrokes before Frame can get to them. If you have any aps that you know have hot keys running, you may want to disable them one at a time to ID the culprit. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Corinne Kenney wrote: > FM 9 and FM 7.2 / Windows XP Pro > > Have battled with this over a year, and 3 laptops. My Ctrl keys stop > working after about 15-20 minutes or less. No Ctrl + Z, X, C, M, and so on. > Has anyone had this problem? Is it a setting within the laptop, or what? > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Corinne Kenney, Product Documentation > OpenTV > Golden CO > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Ctrl key issues
Actually, it happens ONLY in Frame. Other apps work fine. And it has followed me over three laptops. It's weird --- On Fri, 11/27/09, Art Campbell wrote: > From: Art Campbell > Subject: Re: Ctrl key issues > To: "Corinne Kenney" > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 11:03 AM > I'd suspect something on the laptop > because it happens for different aps. > When something like this has occurred on one of my systems, > I usually find that it's ClipMate, SnagIt, or another > add-in grabbing keystrokes before Frame can get to them. > > > If you have any aps that you know have hot keys running, > you may want to disable them one at a time to ID the > culprit. > > Art > > Art Campbell ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ?art.campbell at gmail.com > > > ?"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this > world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- > Richard Thompson > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?No disclaimers apply. > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DoD 358 > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:51 PM, > Corinne Kenney > wrote: > > > FM 9 and FM 7.2 / Windows XP Pro > > > > Have battled with this over a year, and 3 laptops. My Ctrl > keys stop working after about 15-20 minutes or less. No Ctrl > + Z, X, C, M, and so on. Has anyone had this problem? Is it > a setting within the laptop, or what? > > > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > > > Corinne Kenney, Product Documentation > > OpenTV > > Golden CO > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ > for more resources and info. > > > >
Ctrl key issues
FM 9 and FM 7.2 / Windows XP Pro Have battled with this over a year, and 3 laptops. My Ctrl keys stop working after about 15-20 minutes or less. No Ctrl + Z, X, C, M, and so on. Has anyone had this problem? Is it a setting within the laptop, or what? Any help is greatly appreciated. Corinne Kenney, Product Documentation OpenTV Golden CO ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
