RE: FM PDF bloat
Title: RE: FM > PDF bloat Good thinking, Grant. A different graphic doesn't cause the problem. It's just THIS graphic, and it's this graphic in multiple formats. Rene -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Grant HogarthSent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:29 PMTo: framers@lists.FrameUsers.comSubject: RE: FM PDF bloat Try this proof test -- try putting in a *different* graphic and seeing what that does to the file size.It may not be the graphic, but the anchored frame that is the problem.Grant ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM PDF bloat
Title: RE: FM PDF bloat Hmmm... 2 thoughts: 1) If you have the GIMP or PhotoShop, you could open the graphic and see waht might be going on. 2) A quick workaround would be to open the image full-screen in irfanview (or anyother app that will let you get a full screen display), and then do a screen capture of the displayed image. There will be a little of the Photocopy effect, but not enough for 99% of your audience to notice. It doesn't solve the mystery, but it would let you move along from where you are stuck. Grant -Original Message- From: Rene S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Mon 12/5/2005 4:17 PM To: Grant Hogarth; framers@lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: FM PDF bloat RE: FM PDF bloatGood thinking, Grant. A different graphic doesn't cause the problem. It's just THIS graphic, and it's this graphic in multiple formats. Rene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Grant Hogarth Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:29 PM To: framers@lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: FM PDF bloat Try this proof test -- try putting in a *different* graphic and seeing what that does to the file size. It may not be the graphic, but the anchored frame that is the problem. Grant -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005 To find out more about Reuters visit www.about.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM > PDF bloat
Try this proof test -- try putting in a *different* graphic and seeing what that does to the file size. It may not be the graphic, but the anchored frame that is the problem. Grant -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20051205/ac8eaf5f/attachment.html
FM > PDF bloat
RE: FM > PDF bloatGood thinking, Grant. A different graphic doesn't cause the problem. It's just THIS graphic, and it's this graphic in multiple formats. Rene -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Grant Hogarth Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:29 PM To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: FM > PDF bloat Try this proof test -- try putting in a *different* graphic and seeing what that does to the file size. It may not be the graphic, but the anchored frame that is the problem. Grant -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20051205/96f75579/attachment.html
FM > PDF bloat
Hmmm... 2 thoughts: 1) If you have the GIMP or PhotoShop, you could open the graphic and see waht might be going on. 2) A quick workaround would be to open the image full-screen in irfanview (or anyother app that will let you get a full screen display), and then do a screen capture of the displayed image. There will be a little of the "Photocopy effect", but not enough for 99% of your audience to notice. It doesn't solve the mystery, but it would let you move along from where you are stuck. Grant -Original Message- From: Rene S. [mailto:rinn...@yahoo.com] Sent: Mon 12/5/2005 4:17 PM To: Grant Hogarth; framers at lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: FM > PDF bloat RE: FM > PDF bloatGood thinking, Grant. A different graphic doesn't cause the problem. It's just THIS graphic, and it's this graphic in multiple formats. Rene -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Grant Hogarth Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:29 PM To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: FM > PDF bloat Try this proof test -- try putting in a *different* graphic and seeing what that does to the file size. It may not be the graphic, but the anchored frame that is the problem. Grant -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005 To find out more about Reuters visit www.about.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20051205/6110064a/attachment.html
RE: FM PDF bloat
Could it be that both of the problems are due to multiple facets? You may have your FM set to create FrameImage facets whenever you copy in a graphic. That may generate two copies of the graphic. Joe TuVox, Inc. 19050 Pruneridge Avenue Suite 150, Cupertino, CA 95014-0715 Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625.1623 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tuvox.com The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rene S.Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 4:55 PMTo: framers@lists.FrameUsers.comSubject: RE: FM PDF bloat I am having a similar problem. I have a 618kb JPG that has to be copied into the doc (can't be ref'd - long story, unusual case), and it balloons the FM file from 299 kb to 25,669kb when I insert that meager 618kb JPG! Any suggestions anyone? Thanks, Rene Stephenson -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Baruch BrodersenSent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:25 AMTo: framers@lists.FrameUsers.comSubject: FM PDF bloat I have a Frame filethat contains both importsof PDFs of Illustratorgraphics and Illustrator files. Oneof these graphicsin particular causes tremendous bloat. That AI(Illustrator) file weighs in at 1.9 MB. The PDF of the same file is a svelte 101 KB. If Iimport either the Illustrator file or the PDF'd Illustrator file and Save As PDF (standard job option at a measly 600 dpi or even at 1200 dpi) the file balloons out to 11 MB. If I produce apostscript file(from Frame) of the one page containing the graphic, the results are the same. The postscript file is 1.3 MB, which in turndistills into a 12 MB PDF. Bizarre. Any ideas on what to do? Vital statistics: Frame 7.0p579, WinXP Pro SP2, TimeSavers 3.6, Nav Asst. 2.3.2, Forms Asst 1.7. B a r u c h B r o d e r s e nT e c h n i t e x t D o c u m e n t a t i o n7 0 2 2 8 9 4 1 0 6 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM > PDF bloat
I am having a similar problem. I have a 618kb JPG that has to be copied into the doc (can't be ref'd - long story, unusual case), and it balloons the FM file from 299 kb to 25,669kb when I insert that meager 618kb JPG! Any suggestions anyone? Thanks, Rene Stephenson -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Baruch Brodersen Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:25 AM To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: FM > PDF bloat I have a Frame file that contains both imports of PDFs of Illustrator graphics and Illustrator files. One of these graphics in particular causes tremendous bloat. That AI (Illustrator) file weighs in at 1.9 MB. The PDF of the same file is a svelte 101 KB. If I import either the Illustrator file or the PDF'd Illustrator file and Save As PDF (standard job option at a measly 600 dpi or even at 1200 dpi) the file balloons out to 11 MB. If I produce a postscript file (from Frame) of the one page containing the graphic, the results are the same. The postscript file is 1.3 MB, which in turn distills into a 12 MB PDF. Bizarre. Any ideas on what to do? Vital statistics: Frame 7.0p579, WinXP Pro SP2, TimeSavers 3.6, Nav Asst. 2.3.2, Forms Asst 1.7. B a r u c h B r o d e r s e n T e c h n i t e x t D o c u m e n t a t i o n 7 0 2 2 8 9 4 1 0 6 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/190 - Release Date: 12/1/2005 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20051202/0e0460d7/attachment.html
FM > PDF bloat
Are you embedding all fonts? Is Arial Unicode MS one of them? Are you calling a character that is getting substituted with one from Arial Unicode MS (and subsequently embedding it)? That font is in the neighborhood of 24MB. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+pnagai=visa.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+pnagai=visa@lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Rene S. Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 4:55 PM To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: FM > PDF bloat I am having a similar problem. I have a 618kb JPG that has to be copied into the doc (can't be ref'd - long story, unusual case), and it balloons the FM file from 299 kb to 25,669kb when I insert that meager 618kb JPG! Any suggestions anyone? Thanks, Rene Stephenson -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo@lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Baruch Brodersen Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:25 AM To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: FM > PDF bloat I have a Frame file that contains both imports of PDFs of Illustrator graphics and Illustrator files. One of these graphics in particular causes tremendous bloat. That AI (Illustrator) file weighs in at 1.9 MB. The PDF of the same file is a svelte 101 KB. If I import either the Illustrator file or the PDF'd Illustrator file and Save As PDF (standard job option at a measly 600 dpi or even at 1200 dpi) the file balloons out to 11 MB. If I produce a postscript file (from Frame) of the one page containing the graphic, the results are the same. The postscript file is 1.3 MB, which in turn distills into a 12 MB PDF. Bizarre. Any ideas on what to do? Vital statistics: Frame 7.0p579, WinXP Pro SP2, TimeSavers 3.6, Nav Asst. 2.3.2, Forms Asst 1.7. B a r u c h B r o d e r s e n T e c h n i t e x t D o c u m e n t a t i o n 7 0 2 2 8 9 4 1 0 6 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20051202/00b20c1b/attachment.html
FM > PDF bloat
Could it be that both of the problems are due to multiple facets? You may have your FM set to create FrameImage facets whenever you copy in a graphic. That may generate two copies of the graphic. Joe TuVox, Inc. 19050 Pruneridge Avenue Suite 150, Cupertino, CA 95014-0715 Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625.1623 jmalin at tuvox.com www.tuvox.com <http://www.tuvox.com/> The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rene S. Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 4:55 PM To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: FM > PDF bloat I am having a similar problem. I have a 618kb JPG that has to be copied into the doc (can't be ref'd - long story, unusual case), and it balloons the FM file from 299 kb to 25,669kb when I insert that meager 618kb JPG! Any suggestions anyone? Thanks, Rene Stephenson -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Baruch Brodersen Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:25 AM To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: FM > PDF bloat I have a Frame file that contains both imports of PDFs of Illustrator graphics and Illustrator files. One of these graphics in particular causes tremendous bloat. That AI (Illustrator) file weighs in at 1.9 MB. The PDF of the same file is a svelte 101 KB. If I import either the Illustrator file or the PDF'd Illustrator file and Save As PDF (standard job option at a measly 600 dpi or even at 1200 dpi) the file balloons out to 11 MB. If I produce a postscript file (from Frame) of the one page containing the graphic, the results are the same. The postscript file is 1.3 MB, which in turn distills into a 12 MB PDF. Bizarre. Any ideas on what to do? Vital statistics: Frame 7.0p579, WinXP Pro SP2, TimeSavers 3.6, Nav Asst. 2.3.2, Forms Asst 1.7. B a r u c h B r o d e r s e n T e c h n i t e x t D o c u m e n t a t i o n 7 0 2 2 8 9 4 1 0 6 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20051202/bee0cde1/attachment.html
FM > PDF bloat
I have a Frame file that contains both imports of PDFs of Illustrator graphics and Illustrator files. One of these graphics in particular causes tremendous bloat. That AI (Illustrator) file weighs in at 1.9 MB. The PDF of the same file is a svelte 101 KB. If I import either the Illustrator file or the PDF'd Illustrator file and Save As PDF (standard job option at a measly 600 dpi or even at 1200 dpi) the file balloons out to 11 MB. If I produce a postscript file (from Frame) of the one page containing the graphic, the results are the same. The postscript file is 1.3 MB, which in turn distills into a 12 MB PDF. Bizarre. Any ideas on what to do? Vital statistics: Frame 7.0p579, WinXP Pro SP2, TimeSavers 3.6, Nav Asst. 2.3.2, Forms Asst 1.7. B a r u c h B r o d e r s e n T e c h n i t e x t D o c u m e n t a t i o n 7 0 2 2 8 9 4 1 0 6 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20051201/e1ddb56a/attachment.html
