FM9: correcting CMYK colors in PDF following save-as

2010-10-14 Thread White, Scott
Again, working with color in Framemaker rears its ugly head. With
Framemaker 10 in development I hope the team will take note that the
treatment of color in Framemaker is not adequate and work on resolving
the 4-color, spot, and tint issues that Framemaker has added to our jobs
since the banishment of Framemaker on the MAC.
I live your pain Becky.
Scott White
Media Production Manager
Alamark Technologies
210-704-8239


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Becky
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Subject: FM9: correcting CMYK colors in PDF following save-as

Using FM9.0p237. I am a longtime user.

I will be using FM9 to create PDFs for 4-color printing. Ach, the
headaches! I know I have to use Save-As and de-select Convert CMYK
Colors to RGB. (I know that this means FM uses its own Unix Postscript
generator, and not the Industry Standards Distiller options that I
*wish* it would use.)

I do indeed get a pure CMYK PDF. Onscreen, the colors look good, but my
printer tells me the color values are wrong. Example: CustomBlue is
defined as 69.18.23.1 in FM, but it comes out as 68.8,32.2,0,0 in the
PDF-very different  color.

Unless someone knows some FM fix for this, I will be correcting colors
in the PDF.

My question: Can people recommend the best software for this? Is Acrobat
Pro 9 good enough? should I get the PitstopPro plugin? Other? We can't
buy anything too expensive-can go up to $800 max.

I hope that this is an OK question to ask. My apologies if it is not,
please ignore if that is the case.

Many thanks for your help,
Becky

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FM9: correcting CMYK colors in PDF following save-as

2010-10-13 Thread Edmondson, Becky
Using FM9.0p237. I am a longtime user.

I will be using FM9 to create PDFs for 4-color printing. Ach, the headaches! I 
know I have to use Save-As and de-select Convert CMYK Colors to RGB. (I know 
that this means FM uses its own Unix Postscript generator, and not the Industry 
Standards Distiller options that I *wish* it would use.)

I do indeed get a pure CMYK PDF. Onscreen, the colors look good, but my printer 
tells me the color values are wrong. Example: CustomBlue is defined as 
69.18.23.1 in FM, but it comes out as 68.8,32.2,0,0 in the PDF-very different  
color.

Unless someone knows some FM fix for this, I will be correcting colors in the 
PDF.

My question: Can people recommend the best software for this? Is Acrobat Pro 9 
good enough? should I get the PitstopPro plugin? Other? We can't buy anything 
too expensive-can go up to $800 max.

I hope that this is an OK question to ask. My apologies if it is not, please 
ignore if that is the case.

Many thanks for your help,
Becky

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Re: FM9: correcting CMYK colors in PDF following save-as

2010-10-13 Thread Art Campbell
I haven't had to do this myself in 9, but I remember that people are
using Acrobat Pro to set the colors; no plug-ins required.

If I were you, and you wanted the complete scoop, I'd post for details
in the Adobe FM user-to-user forum. Arnis, the group moderator, is an
expert in print prep and getting 9 to work acceptably. There are also
several similar threads in the archives.

Cheers,
Art

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On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Edmondson, Becky
bedmond...@ahurascientific.com wrote:
 Using FM9.0p237. I am a longtime user.

 I will be using FM9 to create PDFs for 4-color printing. Ach, the headaches! 
 I know I have to use Save-As and de-select Convert CMYK Colors to RGB. (I 
 know that this means FM uses its own Unix Postscript generator, and not the 
 Industry Standards Distiller options that I *wish* it would use.)

 I do indeed get a pure CMYK PDF. Onscreen, the colors look good, but my 
 printer tells me the color values are wrong. Example: CustomBlue is defined 
 as 69.18.23.1 in FM, but it comes out as 68.8,32.2,0,0 in the PDF-very 
 different  color.

 Unless someone knows some FM fix for this, I will be correcting colors in the 
 PDF.

 My question: Can people recommend the best software for this? Is Acrobat Pro 
 9 good enough? should I get the PitstopPro plugin? Other? We can't buy 
 anything too expensive-can go up to $800 max.

 I hope that this is an OK question to ask. My apologies if it is not, please 
 ignore if that is the case.

 Many thanks for your help,
 Becky

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FM9: correcting CMYK colors in PDF following save-as

2010-10-13 Thread Edmondson, Becky
Using FM9.0p237. I am a longtime user.

I will be using FM9 to create PDFs for 4-color printing. Ach, the headaches! I 
know I have to use Save-As and de-select Convert CMYK Colors to RGB. (I know 
that this means FM uses its own Unix Postscript generator, and not the Industry 
Standards Distiller options that I *wish* it would use.)

I do indeed get a pure CMYK PDF. Onscreen, the colors look good, but my printer 
tells me the color values are wrong. Example: CustomBlue is defined as 
69.18.23.1 in FM, but it comes out as 68.8,32.2,0,0 in the PDF-very different  
color.

Unless someone knows some FM fix for this, I will be correcting colors in the 
PDF.

My question: Can people recommend the best software for this? Is Acrobat Pro 9 
good enough? should I get the PitstopPro plugin? Other? We can't buy anything 
too expensive-can go up to $800 max.

I hope that this is an OK question to ask. My apologies if it is not, please 
ignore if that is the case.

Many thanks for your help,
Becky

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and proprietary.   *



FM9: correcting CMYK colors in PDF following save-as

2010-10-13 Thread Art Campbell
I haven't had to do this myself in 9, but I remember that people are
using Acrobat Pro to set the colors; no plug-ins required.

If I were you, and you wanted the complete scoop, I'd post for details
in the Adobe FM user-to-user forum. Arnis, the group moderator, is an
expert in print prep and getting 9 to work acceptably. There are also
several similar threads in the archives.

Cheers,
Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Edmondson, Becky
 wrote:
> Using FM9.0p237. I am a longtime user.
>
> I will be using FM9 to create PDFs for 4-color printing. Ach, the headaches! 
> I know I have to use Save-As and de-select Convert CMYK Colors to RGB. (I 
> know that this means FM uses its own Unix Postscript generator, and not the 
> Industry Standards Distiller options that I *wish* it would use.)
>
> I do indeed get a pure CMYK PDF. Onscreen, the colors look good, but my 
> printer tells me the color values are wrong. Example: CustomBlue is defined 
> as 69.18.23.1 in FM, but it comes out as 68.8,32.2,0,0 in the PDF-very 
> different ?color.
>
> Unless someone knows some FM fix for this, I will be correcting colors in the 
> PDF.
>
> My question: Can people recommend the best software for this? Is Acrobat Pro 
> 9 good enough? should I get the PitstopPro plugin? Other? We can't buy 
> anything too expensive-can go up to $800 max.
>
> I hope that this is an OK question to ask. My apologies if it is not, please 
> ignore if that is the case.
>
> Many thanks for your help,
> Becky
>
> * All information contained in this email should be considered 
> confidential and proprietary. ? *
>
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