Re: FW: Requesting help with 40051-2, conditional text: SUMMARY

2009-09-29 Thread quills
So does the DTD include anything for conditional text? An attribute 
setting that can be used?

Scott

Stamm, David-P45904 wrote:
 2009-09-29-02T12:25Z
 
 Thanks to all who responded, naming (only the first five in order of 
 receipt):  Alan Houser, Sarah O'Keefe, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson, Nadine Murray, 
 theboggette, et al.
 
 To help clarify:
   1.  We were provided the document type definition by a US Army major 
 command, and (until permitted otherwise), we're not allowed to change it.  
 Therefore, our .edd is similarly fixed.
   2.  We are not using Darwin Information Typing Architecture.
   3.  In FrameMaker (unstructured), we encoded only whole paragraphs with 
 conditional text.  It seems as though we need to continue doing that in 
 structured - including the opening and closing tags for those paragraphs.
   4.  For those who read my posting as a possible solicitation for 
 employment, sorry.  I didn't mean to imply that and wish all of you well in 
 whatever your journeys hold next.
 
 Art Campbell, thanks for the tips about Free Framers list at omsys.com, the 
 Yahoo Structured FM group, and the structured and unstructured FrameMaker 
 forums at adobe.com.  I might try Free Framers.  As for Yahoo, I don't think 
 I can get there from here because of information security restrictions.  My 
 postings to the forum at adobe dot com did not get through, either.
 
 Fei Min Lorente, I might check in with you.
 
 ¡Thanks! and regards to all,
 
 Dave Stamm
 Publications Specialist, Senior Staff
 General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
 Battle Management Systems Division
 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200   We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
 Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552
 US
 tel:  260-434-9620
 fax:  260.434.9606
 dave.st...@gdc4s.com
 http://www.gdc4s.com/
 
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 Subject: Requesting help with 40051-2, conditional text
 
 Posting a fourth time:  earlier postings did not get through
 
 Adobe® FrameMaker® 8.0p277 (2008-05-23-07) structured
 
 US Army DTD as provided by Writer / Editor, US Army major command.
 
 We are shifting from FrameMaker unstructured into structured.  Our first 
 project is to conform to the DTD.  We have _lots_ of passages encoded with 
 conditional text, and I hoping there's a wise, reasonably-easy way to sort 
 this out.
 
 If you have experience with adapting to the DTD - especially in transition 
 from unstructured documents, please contact me off-line.
 
 ¡Thanks! in advance for your help and
 Regards
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FW: Requesting help with 40051-2, conditional text: SUMMARY

2009-09-29 Thread Stamm, David-P45904
2009-09-29-02T12:25Z

Thanks to all who responded, naming (only the first five in order of receipt):  
Alan Houser, Sarah O'Keefe, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson, Nadine Murray, "theboggette," 
et al.

To help clarify:
  1.  We were provided the document type definition by a US Army major command, 
and (until permitted otherwise), we're not allowed to change it.  Therefore, 
our .edd is similarly fixed.
  2.  We are not using Darwin Information Typing Architecture.
  3.  In FrameMaker (unstructured), we encoded only whole paragraphs with 
conditional text.  It seems as though we need to continue doing that in 
structured - including the opening and closing tags for those paragraphs.
  4.  For those who read my posting as a possible solicitation for employment, 
sorry.  I didn't mean to imply that and wish all of you well in whatever your 
journeys hold next.

Art Campbell, thanks for the tips about Free Framers list at omsys.com, the 
Yahoo Structured FM group, and the structured and unstructured FrameMaker 
forums at adobe.com.  I might try Free Framers.  As for Yahoo, I don't think I 
can "get there from here" because of information security restrictions.  My 
postings to the forum at adobe dot com did not get through, either.

Fei Min Lorente, I might check in with you.

?Thanks! and regards to all,

Dave Stamm
Publications Specialist, Senior Staff
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Battle Management Systems Division
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200   We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552
US
tel:  260-434-9620
fax:  260.434.9606
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com
http://www.gdc4s.com/

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Contractual restrictions apply to third parties.  Recipients should refer to 
the policies or contract to determine proper handling.  Unauthorized review, 
use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited.  If you are not an intended 
recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original 
message.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stamm, David-P45904
Sent: 2009-September-28-Monday 09:19
To: FrameMaker user's list posting
Subject: Requesting help with 40051-2, conditional text

Posting a fourth time:  earlier postings did not get through

Adobe? FrameMaker? 8.0p277 (2008-05-23-07) structured

US Army DTD as provided by Writer / Editor, US Army major command.

We are shifting from FrameMaker unstructured into structured.  Our first 
project is to conform to the DTD.  We have _lots_ of passages encoded with 
conditional text, and I hoping there's a wise, reasonably-easy way to sort this 
out.

If you have experience with adapting to the DTD - especially in transition from 
unstructured documents, please contact me off-line.

"?Thanks! in advance for your help and
Regards


FW: Requesting help with 40051-2, conditional text: SUMMARY

2009-09-29 Thread qui...@airmail.net
So does the DTD include anything for conditional text? An attribute 
setting that can be used?

Scott

Stamm, David-P45904 wrote:
> 2009-09-29-02T12:25Z
> 
> Thanks to all who responded, naming (only the first five in order of 
> receipt):  Alan Houser, Sarah O'Keefe, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson, Nadine Murray, 
> "theboggette," et al.
> 
> To help clarify:
>   1.  We were provided the document type definition by a US Army major 
> command, and (until permitted otherwise), we're not allowed to change it.  
> Therefore, our .edd is similarly fixed.
>   2.  We are not using Darwin Information Typing Architecture.
>   3.  In FrameMaker (unstructured), we encoded only whole paragraphs with 
> conditional text.  It seems as though we need to continue doing that in 
> structured - including the opening and closing tags for those paragraphs.
>   4.  For those who read my posting as a possible solicitation for 
> employment, sorry.  I didn't mean to imply that and wish all of you well in 
> whatever your journeys hold next.
> 
> Art Campbell, thanks for the tips about Free Framers list at omsys.com, the 
> Yahoo Structured FM group, and the structured and unstructured FrameMaker 
> forums at adobe.com.  I might try Free Framers.  As for Yahoo, I don't think 
> I can "get there from here" because of information security restrictions.  My 
> postings to the forum at adobe dot com did not get through, either.
> 
> Fei Min Lorente, I might check in with you.
> 
> ?Thanks! and regards to all,
> 
> Dave Stamm
> Publications Specialist, Senior Staff
> General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
> Battle Management Systems Division
> 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200   We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
> Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552
> US
> tel:  260-434-9620
> fax:  260.434.9606
> dave.stamm at gdc4s.com
> http://www.gdc4s.com/
> 
> This message and/or attachments may include information subject to GDC4S O.M. 
> 1.8.6 and GD Corporate Policy 07-706 and is intended to be accessed only by 
> authorized personnel of General Dynamics and approved service providers.  
> Use, storage and transmission are governed by General Dynamics and its 
> policies. Contractual restrictions apply to third parties.  Recipients should 
> refer to the policies or contract to determine proper handling.  Unauthorized 
> review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited.  If you are not an 
> intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the 
> original message.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stamm, David-P45904
> Sent: 2009-September-28-Monday 09:19
> To: FrameMaker user's list posting
> Subject: Requesting help with 40051-2, conditional text
> 
> Posting a fourth time:  earlier postings did not get through
> 
> Adobe? FrameMaker? 8.0p277 (2008-05-23-07) structured
> 
> US Army DTD as provided by Writer / Editor, US Army major command.
> 
> We are shifting from FrameMaker unstructured into structured.  Our first 
> project is to conform to the DTD.  We have _lots_ of passages encoded with 
> conditional text, and I hoping there's a wise, reasonably-easy way to sort 
> this out.
> 
> If you have experience with adapting to the DTD - especially in transition 
> from unstructured documents, please contact me off-line.
> 
> "?Thanks! in advance for your help and
> Regards
> ___
> 
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