FrameMaker to Wiki conversion

[William Gaffga]

Apologies for the cross-post.

Has anyone tried or know of a good way to go from Frame to a Wiki?  
We are looking at moving a library of keywords for a dev tool from FM  
to a wiki format. This would be a one time thing. I tried googling  
this and one fella does a FM-HTML-Wiki conversion with a lot of  
cleanup:

http://edutechwiki.unige.ch/en/User_talk:Daniel_K._Schneider.

We could write a tool to convert table entries to fill in the  
database, and I suspect that is our only solution but I figured I  
should first ask for experiences and feedback on this crazy idea.


TIA.

Will.
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Re: FrameMaker to Wiki conversion

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Will...

I can't say if this is useful or not (minimal familiarity with Wiki 
formats), but if it would help to have an easy way to get to XML, you 
might try our (free) MIFML converter ..


   http://www.leximation.com/tools/mifml/

That will get your FM files to XML (MIFML), then all you have to do is 
write an XSL transformation to get to the Wiki format (perhaps not as 
easy as other options).


You might also get some good mileage out of the HTML or XML conversions 
from Mif2Go ..


   http://www.omsys.com/dcl/omni.htm

Good luck!

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



William Gaffga wrote:

Apologies for the cross-post.

Has anyone tried or know of a good way to go from Frame to a Wiki? 
We are looking at moving a library of keywords for a dev tool from FM 
to a wiki format. This would be a one time thing. I tried googling 
this and one fella does a FM-HTML-Wiki conversion with a lot of 
cleanup:

http://edutechwiki.unige.ch/en/User_talk:Daniel_K._Schneider.

We could write a tool to convert table entries to fill in the 
database, and I suspect that is our only solution but I figured I 
should first ask for experiences and feedback on this crazy idea.


TIA.

Will.





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Re: FrameMaker to Wiki conversion

[William Gaffga]

William Gaffga wrote:
Has anyone tried or know of a good way to go from Frame to a  
Wiki? We are looking at moving a library of keywords for a dev  
tool from FM to a wiki format. This would be a one time thing. I  
tried googling this and one fella does a FM-HTML-Wiki conversion  
with a lot of cleanup:

http://edutechwiki.unige.ch/en/User_talk:Daniel_K._Schneider.


On Jul 17, 2007, at 3:01 PM, Laura Lemay wrote:
I know of no good way to convert FM to any wiki format.  In my  
experience the conversion is a huge PITA all around.  Be prepared  
for a lot of hand cleanup.  On the other hand, its good that you  
only have to do it once.  I once had a product manager who wanted  
to regularly round-trip FM to wiki and back.  ahahaha.


Some wiki software enables you to include raw HTML pages.  If your  
wiki can handle this, then just convert your FM to HTML using  
whatever method you like.  You may end up with an uneditable HTML  
page, though, and not a wiki page, which is not particularly what  
you want.


Actually converting fm content to wiki format is going to take more  
work.  If you have a small amount of content the easiest method is  
probably just to save as text (or copy all the text out of the  
files) and apply the wiki formatting by hand.  If you have a lot of  
pages, or very complex pages, then you'll probably want to write a  
script/tool to convert from FM output (text, html, XML) to your  
wiki's input format.


Alas, I know of no more general way to do this other than hand- 
built tools, especially since every wiki has its own tagging language.


Good luck.

Laura


Thanks, Laura.

(Oof! Bottom posting freaks me out). It seems we're definitely going  
to need to write an app or script to do the conversion as the keyword  
list is something 15000 entries. Fortunately they are all in separate  
tables and are mostly uniform.


Will.
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FrameMaker to Wiki conversion

[William Gaffga]

Apologies for the cross-post.

Has anyone tried or know of a "good" way to go from Frame to a Wiki?  
We are looking at moving a library of keywords for a dev tool from FM  
to a wiki format. This would be a one time thing. I tried googling  
this and one fella does a FM->HTML->Wiki conversion with a lot of  
cleanup:
.

We could write a tool to convert table entries to fill in the  
database, and I suspect that is our only solution but I figured I  
should first ask for experiences and feedback on this crazy idea.

TIA.

Will.

FrameMaker to Wiki conversion

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Will...

I can't say if this is useful or not (minimal familiarity with Wiki 
formats), but if it would help to have an easy way to get to XML, you 
might try our (free) MIFML converter ..

http://www.leximation.com/tools/mifml/

That will get your FM files to XML (MIFML), then all you have to do is 
write an XSL transformation to get to the Wiki format (perhaps not as 
easy as other options).

You might also get some good mileage out of the HTML or XML conversions 
from Mif2Go ..

http://www.omsys.com/dcl/omni.htm

Good luck!

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



William Gaffga wrote:
> Apologies for the cross-post.
>
> Has anyone tried or know of a "good" way to go from Frame to a Wiki? 
> We are looking at moving a library of keywords for a dev tool from FM 
> to a wiki format. This would be a one time thing. I tried googling 
> this and one fella does a FM->HTML->Wiki conversion with a lot of 
> cleanup:
> .
>
> We could write a tool to convert table entries to fill in the 
> database, and I suspect that is our only solution but I figured I 
> should first ask for experiences and feedback on this crazy idea.
>
> TIA.
>
> Will.
>
>
>

FrameMaker to Wiki conversion

[William Gaffga]

> William Gaffga wrote:
>> Has anyone tried or know of a "good" way to go from Frame to a  
>> Wiki? We are looking at moving a library of keywords for a dev  
>> tool from FM to a wiki format. This would be a one time thing. I  
>> tried googling this and one fella does a FM->HTML->Wiki conversion  
>> with a lot of cleanup:
>> .

On Jul 17, 2007, at 3:01 PM, Laura Lemay wrote:
> I know of no "good" way to convert FM to any wiki format.  In my  
> experience the conversion is a huge PITA all around.  Be prepared  
> for a lot of hand cleanup.  On the other hand, its good that you  
> only have to do it once.  I once had a product manager who wanted  
> to regularly round-trip FM to wiki and back.  ahahaha.
>
> Some wiki software enables you to include raw HTML pages.  If your  
> wiki can handle this, then just convert your FM to HTML using  
> whatever method you like.  You may end up with an uneditable HTML  
> page, though, and not a wiki page, which is not particularly what  
> you want.
>
> Actually converting fm content to wiki format is going to take more  
> work.  If you have a small amount of content the easiest method is  
> probably just to save as text (or copy all the text out of the  
> files) and apply the wiki formatting by hand.  If you have a lot of  
> pages, or very complex pages, then you'll probably want to write a  
> script/tool to convert from FM output (text, html, XML) to your  
> wiki's input format.
>
> Alas, I know of no more general way to do this other than hand- 
> built tools, especially since every wiki has its own tagging language.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Laura

Thanks, Laura.

(Oof! Bottom posting freaks me out). It seems we're definitely going  
to need to write an app or script to do the conversion as the keyword  
list is something 15000 entries. Fortunately they are all in separate  
tables and are mostly uniform.

Will.