Framers Template repository? Was: Re: Foxy stuff on master pages

2007-08-08 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:25 -0700 7/8/07, Valerie Lipow wrote:

>If anyone has one or more templates demonstrating the type of Master
>pages/Reference pages discussed in the parent subject, if they're not
>copyrighted, and if you're authorized and willing to disseminate them to the
>group, would you please store a copy in the Framers' file archive? I would
>love to study how they're designed, and I suspect others would like to study
>them as well.

Noted. I will diarize this action, but it might be a while, mainly due to the 
need to clean up and document the quick and dirty demos I hacked as proof of 
concept :-(

No copyrighting is involved.

-- 
Steve



Re: Framers Template repository? Was: Re: Foxy stuff on master pages

2007-08-08 Thread Rene Stephenson
Whenever someone does add the templates to the repository, could that someone 
please post an ANN to the list to let us know?
  
  THANKS!
  Rene

Steve Rickaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  At 09:25 -0700 7/8/07, Valerie Lipow 
wrote:

>If anyone has one or more templates demonstrating the type of Master
>pages/Reference pages discussed in the parent subject, if they're not
>copyrighted, and if you're authorized and willing to disseminate them to the
>group, would you please store a copy in the Framers' file archive? I would
>love to study how they're designed, and I suspect others would like to study
>them as well.

Noted.  I will diarize this action, but it might be a while, mainly due to the  
need to clean up and document the quick and dirty demos I hacked as  proof of 
concept :-(

No copyrighting is involved.

-- 
Steve
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Framers Template repository? Was: Re: Foxy stuff on master pages

2007-08-08 Thread Rene Stephenson
Whenever someone does add the templates to the repository, could that someone 
please post an ANN to the list to let us know?

  THANKS!
  Rene

Steve Rickaby  wrote:  At 09:25 -0700 
7/8/07, Valerie Lipow wrote:

>If anyone has one or more templates demonstrating the type of Master
>pages/Reference pages discussed in the parent subject, if they're not
>copyrighted, and if you're authorized and willing to disseminate them to the
>group, would you please store a copy in the Framers' file archive? I would
>love to study how they're designed, and I suspect others would like to study
>them as well.

Noted.  I will diarize this action, but it might be a while, mainly due to the  
need to clean up and document the quick and dirty demos I hacked as  proof of 
concept :-(

No copyrighting is involved.

-- 
Steve
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Re: Framers Template repository? Was: Re: Foxy stuff on master pages

2007-08-08 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:25 -0700 7/8/07, Valerie Lipow wrote:

>If anyone has one or more templates demonstrating the type of Master
>pages/Reference pages discussed in the parent subject, if they're not
>copyrighted, and if you're authorized and willing to disseminate them to the
>group, would you please store a copy in the Framers' file archive? I would
>love to study how they're designed, and I suspect others would like to study
>them as well.

Noted. I will diarize this action, but it might be a while, mainly due to the 
need to clean up and document the quick and dirty demos I hacked as proof of 
concept :-(

No copyrighting is involved.

-- 
Steve
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Framers Template repository? Was: Re: Foxy stuff on master pages

2007-08-08 Thread Valerie Lipow
If anyone has one or more templates demonstrating the type of Master
pages/Reference pages discussed in the parent subject, if they're not
copyrighted, and if you're authorized and willing to disseminate them to the
group, would you please store a copy in the Framers' file archive? I would
love to study how they're designed, and I suspect others would like to study
them as well.

Val

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 8/7/07, Steve Rickaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Framers
>
> In off-group discussions with Angela and others, it's become only too
> clear that it's possible to create clever stuff on master pages that is
> obvious to its designer but to no-one else ;-) For example, the auto
> thumbtabs stuff which came up recently on the group, or anything that
> involves a template with complex frames on master pages. Because this often
> involves overlaying transparent objects, it can create a maintenance
> headache for whoever comes afterwards, as recently witnessed by someone on
> the group who had to get an expert to fox out how their template was working
> [that was a thumbtabs thing]. It's real important therefore to document how
> the template works, if only in a few lines.
>
> In the case I'm discussing with Angela, switchable page backgrounds, when
> the technique is working there are multiple conditionalised anchored frames
> on a master page, all the same size, all overlaying each other, and with
> their boundaries and anchors nudged outside the displayed area to create the
> required crop margins. That sort of thing would be enough to fox anyone.
>
> A way to ensure that the description travels around with the template is
> to add one or more extra reference pages called 'Notes' or somesuch, and put
> a brief potted description of how the template - or it's more foxy features
> - operates there. That way the 'docs' can only be lost if someone
> deliberately deletes the relevant reference page(s).
>
> When massing with multiple frames on master pages, it's a lot easier to
> see what's going on if you give the various frames a temporary - and
> different - fill pattern and/or colored border. When you've finished
> dickering with them, you can use the Find > anchored frame feature to select
> them one by one and remove the decorations. I use this when building frames
> for moving thumbtabs to get the stacking order for the various frames
> correct.
>
> Hope this helps someone.
>
> --
> Steve
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Framers Template repository? Was: Re: Foxy stuff on master pages

2007-08-07 Thread Valerie Lipow
If anyone has one or more templates demonstrating the type of Master
pages/Reference pages discussed in the parent subject, if they're not
copyrighted, and if you're authorized and willing to disseminate them to the
group, would you please store a copy in the Framers' file archive? I would
love to study how they're designed, and I suspect others would like to study
them as well.

Val

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Valerie Lipow
vallipow at gmail.com

On 8/7/07, Steve Rickaby  wrote:
>
> Hi Framers
>
> In off-group discussions with Angela and others, it's become only too
> clear that it's possible to create clever stuff on master pages that is
> obvious to its designer but to no-one else ;-) For example, the auto
> thumbtabs stuff which came up recently on the group, or anything that
> involves a template with complex frames on master pages. Because this often
> involves overlaying transparent objects, it can create a maintenance
> headache for whoever comes afterwards, as recently witnessed by someone on
> the group who had to get an expert to fox out how their template was working
> [that was a thumbtabs thing]. It's real important therefore to document how
> the template works, if only in a few lines.
>
> In the case I'm discussing with Angela, switchable page backgrounds, when
> the technique is working there are multiple conditionalised anchored frames
> on a master page, all the same size, all overlaying each other, and with
> their boundaries and anchors nudged outside the displayed area to create the
> required crop margins. That sort of thing would be enough to fox anyone.
>
> A way to ensure that the description travels around with the template is
> to add one or more extra reference pages called 'Notes' or somesuch, and put
> a brief potted description of how the template - or it's more foxy features
> - operates there. That way the 'docs' can only be lost if someone
> deliberately deletes the relevant reference page(s).
>
> When massing with multiple frames on master pages, it's a lot easier to
> see what's going on if you give the various frames a temporary - and
> different - fill pattern and/or colored border. When you've finished
> dickering with them, you can use the Find > anchored frame feature to select
> them one by one and remove the decorations. I use this when building frames
> for moving thumbtabs to get the stacking order for the various frames
> correct.
>
> Hope this helps someone.
>
> --
> Steve
> ___
>