Re: Hypertext links in Acrobat8 documents generated from FM8 don't work

2008-02-05 Thread Austin Meredith
A FrameMaker 8.0 patch has just been downloaded onto my computer and 
I am now at Version 8.0p273. This is the patch that is supposed to 
fix the PDF hyperlinks in web documents. I have not yet checked to 
make sure that my FM8 now generates hyperlinks properly, but you need 
to be aware that *there is a minor problem* in the downloading and 
installation of this 273 patch. It downloads itself while one's local 
FM8 is active, and then when it notices that one's FM8 is active, it 
asks permission to close FM9. If, however, one at that point gives it 
permission to close FM8, the patch will *fail to install*.

This new patch will install properly but you will need to get your 
FM8 closed on your own initiative while the download process, which 
takes several minutes, is still underway -- *before* the patch 
installer generates this pop-up window asking for permission to close your FM8.


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Hypertext links in Acrobat8 documents generated from FM8 don't work

2008-02-05 Thread Austin Meredith
A FrameMaker 8.0 patch has just been downloaded onto my computer and 
I am now at Version 8.0p273. This is the patch that is supposed to 
fix the PDF hyperlinks in web documents. I have not yet checked to 
make sure that my FM8 now generates hyperlinks properly, but you need 
to be aware that *there is a minor problem* in the downloading and 
installation of this 273 patch. It downloads itself while one's local 
FM8 is active, and then when it notices that one's FM8 is active, it 
asks permission to close FM9. If, however, one at that point gives it 
permission to close FM8, the patch will *fail to install*.

This new patch will install properly but you will need to get your 
FM8 closed on your own initiative while the download process, which 
takes several minutes, is still underway -- *before* the patch 
installer generates this pop-up window asking for permission to close your FM8.




Hypertext links in Acrobat8 documents generated from FM8 don't work

2007-12-22 Thread Austin Meredith
OK, our chestnuts are pulled out of the fire, we have a way to 
control the FM8 situation. There is a doable workaround. Adobe has 
time to fix this hypertext problem of the relationship between the 
latest version of their FrameMaker and the latest versions of their 
Acrobat and Reader. Here's how to "Save as PDF" in FM8:

1.) For now, do not use any FM8-specific features such as UNICODE. 
They won't translate back into FM7.

2.) Re-install FM7 on your system, alongside FM8. They seem compatible.

3.) For the time being, whenever you desire to distill a Reader PDF 
file that preserves hypertext functionality, instead of "Save as 
PDF," save your FM8 document as a FM7 Maker Interchange Format 
Document, giving it a unique name. (Note: saving it as a FM7 .fm 
document will get you nothing but an error message; you need to save 
it as a FM7 .mif document.)

4.) Open your new FM7 .mif document with FM7 and then use "Save 
as..." to save it as a PDF.

5.) Open and edit your new PDF with the latest version of Acrobat Pro.

Here's an example to show that it can work. I just used the above 
workaround to create 
http://www.kouroo.info/kouroo/thumbnails/H/ReverendFredericHenryHedge.pdf

If you click on the button "RELIGIOUS SOCIETY OF FRIENDS" on page 3 
in the above URL, the functioning hypertext will take you properly to 
our http://www.kouroo.info/kouroo/trends/Quakerism/19thCentQuakerism1.pdf

Say thank you, Adobe.




Re: Hypertext links in Acrobat8 documents generated from FM8 don't work

2007-12-21 Thread Austin Meredith

We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year 
project. How could they have offered an upgrade that destroys hypertext?

Our Kouroo project now has 212,974 files that have already been saved 
as FM8 since we upgraded a few weeks ago, so going back to FM7 
seems difficult. We are, however, beginning to scheme a feasible 
workaround to give Adobe time to get its act together in regard to 
hypertext and FM8. FM8 does allow us to save an FM8 file in the FM7 
format, and FM7 does generate valid hypertext in an Acrobat document. 
So, *if* we can have both FM8 and FM7 installed at the same time (if 
there is a way to keep them from interfering with each other), and 
*if* we don't use any UNICODE or other features that would be 
destroyed in the retro-save as FM7 (and if Acrobat8.1 can still 
handle hypertext), a possible workaround would be: to first save an 
FM8 document as a FM7 document before attempting to generate any 
Acrobat8.1 document with hypertext. That seems feasible if it's doable.

The three questions associated with this feasible workaround would 
be: 1.) is there a way to have FM8 and still have FM7 also? --and, 
2.) are there any new FM8 features that we cannot allow to be 
destroyed by saving as FM7? --and, 3.) does the 8.1 version of 
Acrobat still accept hypertext?

Does anyone have any thoughts about this? Are the above three items doable? 


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Hypertext links in Acrobat8 documents generated from FM8 don't work

2007-12-21 Thread Austin Meredith

>We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year 
>project. How could they have offered an "upgrade" that destroys hypertext?

Our Kouroo project now has 212,974 files that have already been saved 
as FM8 since we "upgraded" a few weeks ago, so going back to FM7 
seems difficult. We are, however, beginning to scheme a feasible 
"workaround" to give Adobe time to get its act together in regard to 
hypertext and FM8. FM8 does allow us to save an FM8 file in the FM7 
format, and FM7 does generate valid hypertext in an Acrobat document. 
So, *if* we can have both FM8 and FM7 installed at the same time (if 
there is a way to keep them from interfering with each other), and 
*if* we don't use any UNICODE or other features that would be 
destroyed in the retro-save as FM7 (and if Acrobat8.1 can still 
handle hypertext), a possible "workaround" would be: to first save an 
FM8 document as a FM7 document before attempting to generate any 
Acrobat8.1 document with hypertext. That seems feasible if it's doable.

The three questions associated with this feasible "workaround" would 
be: 1.) is there a way to have FM8 and still have FM7 also? --and, 
2.) are there any new FM8 features that we cannot allow to be 
destroyed by saving as FM7? --and, 3.) does the 8.1 version of 
Acrobat still accept hypertext?

Does anyone have any thoughts about this? Are the above three items doable? 




Re: Hypertext links in Acrobat8 documents generated from FM8 don't work

2007-12-20 Thread Austin Meredith

I am not aware of any way to control this from within FrameMaker 8.0.

We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year 
project. How could they have offered an upgrade that destroys 
hypertext? Who is going to lose their job here at our project, for 
having recommended that we upgrade to the latest Adobe software? We 
are rushing to take down from the internet the files we have posted 
to our website in the past couple of weeks, files that are a 
considerable embarrassment. And, we are sitting around wondering how 
we can possibly recover from this -- is there a way that we can now 
open, in FM7, the thousands upon thousands of files that have in the 
past few weeks been touched by this FM8 abortion? Or, are we just dead?


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Re: Hypertext links in Acrobat8 documents generated from FM8 don't work

2007-12-20 Thread Austin Meredith

I am not aware of any way to control this from within FrameMaker 8.0.

We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year 
project. How could they have offered an upgrade that destroys 
hypertext? Who here at our Kouroo project is going to lose their job, 
for having incautiously recommended that we now upgrade to the latest 
Adobe software that has been released for like a year? We are rushing 
to take down from the internet the files we have in the past couple 
of weeks posted to our website, files that are a considerable 
embarrassment. And, we are sitting around wondering how we can 
possibly recover from this -- is there a way that we can now open, in 
FM7, the thousands upon thousands of files that we have in the past 
few weeks touched with this FM8 abortion? Can we reinstall FM7 and 
recover? --Or, are we just dead?


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Hypertext links in Acrobat8 documents generated from FM8 don't work

2007-12-20 Thread Austin Meredith

>I am not aware of any way to control this from within FrameMaker 8.0.

We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year 
project. How could they have offered an "upgrade" that destroys 
hypertext? Who is going to lose their job here at our project, for 
having recommended that we upgrade to the latest Adobe software? We 
are rushing to take down from the internet the files we have posted 
to our website in the past couple of weeks, files that are a 
considerable embarrassment. And, we are sitting around wondering how 
we can possibly recover from this -- is there a way that we can now 
open, in FM7, the thousands upon thousands of files that have in the 
past few weeks been touched by this FM8 abortion? Or, are we just dead?




Hypertext links in Acrobat8 documents generated from FM8 don't work

2007-12-20 Thread Austin Meredith

>I am not aware of any way to control this from within FrameMaker 8.0.

We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year 
project. How could they have offered an "upgrade" that destroys 
hypertext? Who here at our Kouroo project is going to lose their job, 
for having incautiously recommended that we now upgrade to the latest 
Adobe software that has been released for like a year? We are rushing 
to take down from the internet the files we have in the past couple 
of weeks posted to our website, files that are a considerable 
embarrassment. And, we are sitting around wondering how we can 
possibly recover from this -- is there a way that we can now open, in 
FM7, the thousands upon thousands of files that we have in the past 
few weeks touched with this FM8 abortion? Can we reinstall FM7 and 
recover? --Or, are we just dead?