Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

2009-01-21 Thread Rick Quatro 
I am happy about the release of FrameMaker 9 and the Tech Comm Suite 2. 
However, I am suprised by the lack of visibility on Adobe.com. When I go to 
the home page, I see no mention whatsoever of FrameMaker 9. When I click the 
See all products link, there are FrameMaker 8, RoboHelp 7, and Captivate 3 
icons. I would think that with new releases like these, they would be 
featured for a few days on Adobe.com. I understand sales percentages and 
market share, etc., but it certainly wouldn't hurt to feature FrameMaker, 
etc., on the home page for a few days after its release.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



*** I work for Adobe Systems, Inc. ***

Hi All, I'm extremely excited to share with you that today we have announced 
the availability of two major Adobe Suites, the new Adobe eLearning 
Suitehttp://www.adobe.com/products/elearningsuite/ and the second version 
of the Technical Communication 
Suitehttp://www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite/, version 2.

Furthermore, we are also announcing the availability of Adobe Captivate 
4http://www.adobe.com/products/captivate/, FrameMaker 
9http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ and RoboHelp 
8http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/ and I will provide more 
information on these individual products in upcoming blog posts.

Over the next few days, I will be blogging actively on what's new in all of 
these products, but for now, here are some links to various recordings that 
I have put together to help our customers learn what's new and exciting in 
all of these new releases:

Introducing the Adobe eLearning 
Suitehttp://my.adobe.acrobat.com/introducingels/

What's New in the Adobe Technical Communication 
2http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/

What's New in Adobe Captivate 4http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newincp4/

Sincerely,

RJ Jácquez
Senior Product Evangelist
Adobe Technical Communication Suite
Adobe eLearning Solutions
http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez


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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

2009-01-21 Thread Karen L. Zorn 
I've been an Adobe user for eons, and granted, the suites are wonderful 
opportunities to get related software as excellent prices. BUT, now 
Adobe is creating crossover amongst the suites, and I'm not so sure 
there a pricing opportunity to be had.


I've been looking at upgrading my CS2 to CS4 and FM7 to TC2, and the new 
eLearning Suite is ve tempting, but


Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
Flash in eLearning and CS4.
PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.


Since I rarely use Illustrator, I probably could just purchase a 
standalone copies of Fireworks and InDesign, if that is possible.


Karen L. Zorn
ZornTech LLC
Mesa, AZ

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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

2009-01-21 Thread Art Campbell 
One tiny correction: PhotoShop CS4 is now in the Tech Comm Suite 2.

Art

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On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Karen L. Zorn k.z...@zorntech.com wrote:

 I've been an Adobe user for eons, and granted, the suites are wonderful
 opportunities to get related software as excellent prices. BUT, now Adobe is
 creating crossover amongst the suites, and I'm not so sure there a pricing
 opportunity to be had.

 I've been looking at upgrading my CS2 to CS4 and FM7 to TC2, and the new
 eLearning Suite is ve tempting, but

 Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
 Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
 Flash in eLearning and CS4.
 PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
 Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
 The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
 In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
 In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.


 Since I rarely use Illustrator, I probably could just purchase a standalone
 copies of Fireworks and InDesign, if that is possible.

 Karen L. Zorn
 ZornTech LLC
 Mesa, AZ


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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

2009-01-21 Thread Alan Litchfield 
Looks good. The demo is well worth the time.

Couple of observations:
1. It seems to be fairly slow in response. Maybe that was just the  
computer being used, but one would think that a demo would be created  
to minimise those kinds of things. Even Photoshop seemed quite fast by  
comparison. Is it sluggish?
2. It seems very clicky, I am hoping the keyboard commands have not  
been lost or changed excessively. One of the min reasons I use FM is  
through having the ability to virtually leave the mouse alone while  
chunking through a 600-odd page book.
3. There was no mention of backwards compatibility. Will it save to  
V7.*?
4. Interesting to see the integration with Adobe AIR. Do many people  
use it - it is very expensive at some NZD7 per license?
5. The new pdf review workflow looks seriously cool!
6. The TechCom suite looks thoroughly integrated. Will having FM on  
its own lose some of those features, like the integration with Acrobat  
and Photoshop? Already having both negates the value of buying the  
suite you see.

Alan

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AlphaByte
PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz

New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

2009-01-21 Thread Rick Quatro 
I am happy about the release of FrameMaker 9 and the Tech Comm Suite 2. 
However, I am suprised by the lack of visibility on Adobe.com. When I go to 
the home page, I see no mention whatsoever of FrameMaker 9. When I click the 
"See all products" link, there are FrameMaker 8, RoboHelp 7, and Captivate 3 
icons. I would think that with new releases like these, they would be 
featured for a few days on Adobe.com. I understand sales percentages and 
market share, etc., but it certainly wouldn't hurt to "feature" FrameMaker, 
etc., on the home page for a few days after its release.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



*** I work for Adobe Systems, Inc. ***

Hi All, I'm extremely excited to share with you that today we have announced 
the availability of two major Adobe Suites, the new Adobe eLearning 
Suite and the second version 
of the Technical Communication 
Suite, version 2.

Furthermore, we are also announcing the availability of Adobe Captivate 
4, FrameMaker 
9 and RoboHelp 
8 and I will provide more 
information on these individual products in upcoming blog posts.

Over the next few days, I will be blogging actively on what's new in all of 
these products, but for now, here are some links to various recordings that 
I have put together to help our customers learn what's new and exciting in 
all of these new releases:

Introducing the Adobe eLearning 
Suite

What's New in the Adobe Technical Communication 
2

What's New in Adobe Captivate 4

Sincerely,

RJ J?cquez
Senior Product Evangelist
Adobe Technical Communication Suite
Adobe eLearning Solutions
http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez

New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

2009-01-21 Thread Karen L. Zorn 
I've been an Adobe user for eons, and granted, the suites are wonderful 
opportunities to get related software as excellent prices. BUT, now 
Adobe is creating crossover amongst the suites, and I'm not so sure 
there a pricing opportunity to be had.

I've been looking at upgrading my CS2 to CS4 and FM7 to TC2, and the new 
eLearning Suite is ve tempting, but

Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
Flash in eLearning and CS4.
PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.


Since I rarely use Illustrator, I probably could just purchase a 
standalone copies of Fireworks and InDesign, if that is possible.

Karen L. Zorn
ZornTech LLC
Mesa, AZ

New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

2009-01-21 Thread Art Campbell 
One tiny correction: PhotoShop CS4 is now in the Tech Comm Suite 2.

Art

Art Campbell
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 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
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On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Karen L. Zorn  wrote:

> I've been an Adobe user for eons, and granted, the suites are wonderful
> opportunities to get related software as excellent prices. BUT, now Adobe is
> creating crossover amongst the suites, and I'm not so sure there a pricing
> opportunity to be had.
>
> I've been looking at upgrading my CS2 to CS4 and FM7 to TC2, and the new
> eLearning Suite is ve tempting, but
>
> Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
> Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
> Flash in eLearning and CS4.
> PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
> Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
> The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
> In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
> In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.
>
>
> Since I rarely use Illustrator, I probably could just purchase a standalone
> copies of Fireworks and InDesign, if that is possible.
>
> Karen L. Zorn
> ZornTech LLC
> Mesa, AZ
>
>
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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

2009-01-20 Thread Alan Litchfield 
Looks good. The demo is well worth the time.

Couple of observations:
1. It seems to be fairly slow in response. Maybe that was just the  
computer being used, but one would think that a demo would be created  
to minimise those kinds of things. Even Photoshop seemed quite fast by  
comparison. Is it sluggish?
2. It seems very clicky, I am hoping the keyboard commands have not  
been lost or changed excessively. One of the min reasons I use FM is  
through having the ability to virtually leave the mouse alone while  
chunking through a 600-odd page book.
3. There was no mention of backwards compatibility. Will it save to  
V7.*?
4. Interesting to see the integration with Adobe AIR. Do many people  
use it - it is very expensive at some NZD7 per license?
5. The new pdf review workflow looks seriously cool!
6. The TechCom suite looks thoroughly integrated. Will having FM on  
its own lose some of those features, like the integration with Acrobat  
and Photoshop? Already having both negates the value of buying the  
suite you see.

Alan

--
Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS
AlphaByte
PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz




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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

2009-01-20 Thread Combs, Richard 
RJ Jacquez wrote:

> What's New in the Adobe Technical Communication
> 2

Excellent overview and demo! The changes in TCS 2 go way beyond the
improvements to FM and RH with which I was familiar. Everyone on this
list should spend the 40 minutes or so to watch the whole thing (or at
least the 10 or so to watch the overview sans demo).

Thank you very much, RJ.

Richard


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2009-01-20 Thread Scott Prentice 
Hi Alan...

1) It does seem a bit slower than FM8 (which was slower than FM7.x, and 
so on), but not bad at all.
2) As far as I know, all of the keyboard functionality is still available.
3) Saves to FM8 (document) and FM7 (MIF)
4) I'm not sure what you mean about the per license cost. In order to 
deploy a Help system using AIR, you'll need to invest in a digital 
certificate ($200 to $300 USD), but that's all. The AIR technology is 
open source and freely available (you can download the AIR and Flex SDKs 
and build your apps).
5) Yes!
6) Not sure .. ?

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Alan Litchfield wrote:
> Looks good. The demo is well worth the time.
>
> Couple of observations:
> 1. It seems to be fairly slow in response. Maybe that was just the  
> computer being used, but one would think that a demo would be created  
> to minimise those kinds of things. Even Photoshop seemed quite fast by  
> comparison. Is it sluggish?
> 2. It seems very clicky, I am hoping the keyboard commands have not  
> been lost or changed excessively. One of the min reasons I use FM is  
> through having the ability to virtually leave the mouse alone while  
> chunking through a 600-odd page book.
> 3. There was no mention of backwards compatibility. Will it save to  
> V7.*?
> 4. Interesting to see the integration with Adobe AIR. Do many people  
> use it - it is very expensive at some NZD7 per license?
> 5. The new pdf review workflow looks seriously cool!
> 6. The TechCom suite looks thoroughly integrated. Will having FM on  
> its own lose some of those features, like the integration with Acrobat  
> and Photoshop? Already having both negates the value of buying the  
> suite you see.
>
> Alan
>
> --
> Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS
> AlphaByte
> PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
>
>
>
>
>