Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-18 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Yes, this is off topic.

I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who  
have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this  
before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those  
electronics all the way across the Pacific.

-- next part --



I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading  
from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.

Alan

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Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-18 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Rats. Forgot about image stripping.

Shopping Cart Checkout snaphot

Parallels Desktop 5  for Mac Upgrade, EN. Qty  
1. Delivery: electronic71.11 NZD
Extended Download  
Service Qty  
1.9.94  
NZD

Total 
...81.05
 
  NZD

No prior mention of price loading, by the way.

On 18/08/2010, at 10:32 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote:

> Yes, this is off topic.
>
> I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who  
> have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this  
> before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those  
> electronics all the way across the Pacific.
>
>
>
>
> I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading  
> from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.
>
> Alan
>
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> New Zealand
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Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-18 Thread Alan T Litchfield

On 18/08/2010, at 10:45 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:

> Hi Alan...
>
> I haven't experienced this, so can't help in that area .. but unless  
> you're wedded to Parallels, I've been using VMWare Fusion for some  
> time now with many versions of FM and Windows OSes with no problems.  
> I'd compare the pricing to see if they have a similar policy/pricing.

Could be a possibility. There are others I work with that use it on  
various platforms. I am not that wedded to it apart from the fact that  
it's there. Pretty stink service really. :(

Thanks
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Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-18 Thread Alan T Litchfield

On 18/08/2010, at 10:51 AM, Owen, Clint wrote:

> Alan,
>
> I am not defending Apple, because I have not dealt with them, but this
> could be a matter of terminology.

Actually, nothing to do with Apple. And I have never had this problem  
with them.

This is these guys: http://www.parallels.com/

>
> For some software that I have bought in the past, an "extended  
> download
> service" would let you download a fresh copy of your purchase for an
> extended length of time. So, the standard price gives you 30 days or  
> so
> to download the product, but for a few dollars more you can get a new
> copy six months from now if your system crashes and you lose your
> backup.

It seems that it is a "download fee" that is non-optional over and  
above the purchase price. The alternative is to buy a disc at  
21.26NZD. !!

It is a con and was a hidden charge that appeared on the shopping cart  
checkout screen.

Cheers
Alan

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http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice



Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-18 Thread Alan T Litchfield
hahaha

Dang, excuse me while I wipe the egg off my face.

The little cross on the right was not that obvious, especially since I  
normally see remove links on the left, and written in text.

Alan

PS So to redress the issue, Parallels are a wonderful company and  
their products are simply the bestest :P

On 18/08/2010, at 11:28 AM, Kevin Farwell wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm not about to defend Parallels, as I have my own troubles with  
> them, but I downloaded a version a few weeks ago and did not pay the  
> download service fee. I just looked at the web site and found I  
> could buy another copy, not that I would, without the service. Just  
> click the "Remove" button on the right.
>
> Kevin
>

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Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-17 Thread Alan T Litchfield

Yes, this is off topic.

I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who  
have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this  
before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those  
electronics all the way across the Pacific.






I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading  
from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.


Alan

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Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-17 Thread Alan T Litchfield

Rats. Forgot about image stripping.

Shopping Cart Checkout snaphot

Parallels Desktop 5  for Mac Upgrade, EN. Qty  
1. Delivery: electronic71.11 NZD
Extended Download  
Service Qty  
1.9.94  
NZD


Total 
...81.05 
 NZD


No prior mention of price loading, by the way.

On 18/08/2010, at 10:32 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote:


Yes, this is off topic.

I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who  
have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this  
before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those  
electronics all the way across the Pacific.





I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading  
from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.


Alan

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Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-17 Thread Scott Prentice

Hi Alan...

I haven't experienced this, so can't help in that area .. but unless 
you're wedded to Parallels, I've been using VMWare Fusion for some time 
now with many versions of FM and Windows OSes with no problems. I'd 
compare the pricing to see if they have a similar policy/pricing.


Cheers,

...scott


Alan T Litchfield wrote:

Yes, this is off topic.

I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who 
have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this 
before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those 
electronics all the way across the Pacific.



I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading 
from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.


Alan

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Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-17 Thread Alan T Litchfield


On 18/08/2010, at 10:45 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:


Hi Alan...

I haven't experienced this, so can't help in that area .. but unless  
you're wedded to Parallels, I've been using VMWare Fusion for some  
time now with many versions of FM and Windows OSes with no problems.  
I'd compare the pricing to see if they have a similar policy/pricing.


Could be a possibility. There are others I work with that use it on  
various platforms. I am not that wedded to it apart from the fact that  
it's there. Pretty stink service really. :(


Thanks
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RE: Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-17 Thread Owen, Clint
Alan,

I am not defending Apple, because I have not dealt with them, but this
could be a matter of terminology.

For some software that I have bought in the past, an extended download
service would let you download a fresh copy of your purchase for an
extended length of time. So, the standard price gives you 30 days or so
to download the product, but for a few dollars more you can get a new
copy six months from now if your system crashes and you lose your
backup.

Clint


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Subject: Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

Rats. Forgot about image stripping.

Shopping Cart Checkout snaphot

Parallels Desktop 5  for Mac Upgrade, EN. Qty
1. Delivery: electronic71.11 NZD Extended
Download Service Qty
1.9.94
NZD

Total


...81.05
  NZD

No prior mention of price loading, by the way.

On 18/08/2010, at 10:32 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote:

 Yes, this is off topic.

 I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who 
 have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this 
 before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those 
 electronics all the way across the Pacific.




 I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading 
 from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.

 Alan

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 PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140
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 http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
 http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice

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Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-17 Thread Alan T Litchfield


On 18/08/2010, at 10:51 AM, Owen, Clint wrote:


Alan,

I am not defending Apple, because I have not dealt with them, but this
could be a matter of terminology.


Actually, nothing to do with Apple. And I have never had this problem  
with them.


This is these guys: http://www.parallels.com/



For some software that I have bought in the past, an extended  
download

service would let you download a fresh copy of your purchase for an
extended length of time. So, the standard price gives you 30 days or  
so

to download the product, but for a few dollars more you can get a new
copy six months from now if your system crashes and you lose your
backup.


It seems that it is a download fee that is non-optional over and  
above the purchase price. The alternative is to buy a disc at  
21.26NZD. !!


It is a con and was a hidden charge that appeared on the shopping cart  
checkout screen.


Cheers
Alan

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Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-17 Thread Kevin Farwell

Hello,

I'm not about to defend Parallels, as I have my own troubles with 
them, but I downloaded a version a few weeks ago and did not pay the 
download service fee. I just looked at the web site and found I could 
buy another copy, not that I would, without the service. Just click 
the Remove button on the right.


Kevin

At 11:00 AM +1200 8/18/10, Alan T Litchfield wrote:

On 18/08/2010, at 10:51 AM, Owen, Clint wrote:


Alan,

I am not defending Apple, because I have not dealt with them, but this
could be a matter of terminology.


Actually, nothing to do with Apple. And I have never had this 
problem with them.


This is these guys: http://www.parallels.com/



For some software that I have bought in the past, an extended download
service would let you download a fresh copy of your purchase for an
extended length of time. So, the standard price gives you 30 days or so
to download the product, but for a few dollars more you can get a new
copy six months from now if your system crashes and you lose your
backup.


It seems that it is a download fee that is non-optional over and 
above the purchase price. The alternative is to buy a disc at 
21.26NZD. !!


It is a con and was a hidden charge that appeared on the shopping 
cart checkout screen.


Cheers
Alan

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Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-17 Thread Alan T Litchfield

hahaha

Dang, excuse me while I wipe the egg off my face.

The little cross on the right was not that obvious, especially since I  
normally see remove links on the left, and written in text.


Alan

PS So to redress the issue, Parallels are a wonderful company and  
their products are simply the bestest :P


On 18/08/2010, at 11:28 AM, Kevin Farwell wrote:


Hello,

I'm not about to defend Parallels, as I have my own troubles with  
them, but I downloaded a version a few weeks ago and did not pay the  
download service fee. I just looked at the web site and found I  
could buy another copy, not that I would, without the service. Just  
click the Remove button on the right.


Kevin



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Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-17 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Alan...

I haven't experienced this, so can't help in that area .. but unless 
you're wedded to Parallels, I've been using VMWare Fusion for some time 
now with many versions of FM and Windows OSes with no problems. I'd 
compare the pricing to see if they have a similar policy/pricing.

Cheers,

...scott


Alan T Litchfield wrote:
> Yes, this is off topic.
>
> I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who 
> have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this 
> before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those 
> electronics all the way across the Pacific.
>
>
> I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading 
> from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.
>
> Alan
>
> -- 
> Alan T Litchfield
> AlphaByte
> PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140
> New Zealand
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice
>
>   


Off topic - Parallels price loading

2010-08-17 Thread Owen, Clint
Alan,

I am not defending Apple, because I have not dealt with them, but this
could be a matter of terminology.

For some software that I have bought in the past, an "extended download
service" would let you download a fresh copy of your purchase for an
extended length of time. So, the standard price gives you 30 days or so
to download the product, but for a few dollars more you can get a new
copy six months from now if your system crashes and you lose your
backup.

Clint


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425 743 8674 | Fax: +1 425 743 8113

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Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:40 PM
To: Alan T Litchfield
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com List
Subject: Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

Rats. Forgot about image stripping.

Shopping Cart Checkout snaphot

Parallels Desktop 5  for Mac Upgrade, EN. Qty
1. Delivery: electronic71.11 NZD Extended
Download Service Qty
1.9.94
NZD

Total


...81.05
  NZD

No prior mention of price loading, by the way.

On 18/08/2010, at 10:32 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote:

> Yes, this is off topic.
>
> I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who 
> have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this 
> before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those 
> electronics all the way across the Pacific.
>
>
>
>
> I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading 
> from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.
>
> Alan
>
> --
> Alan T Litchfield
> AlphaByte
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> New Zealand
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2010-08-17 Thread Kevin Farwell
Hello,

I'm not about to defend Parallels, as I have my own troubles with 
them, but I downloaded a version a few weeks ago and did not pay the 
download service fee. I just looked at the web site and found I could 
buy another copy, not that I would, without the service. Just click 
the "Remove" button on the right.

Kevin

At 11:00 AM +1200 8/18/10, Alan T Litchfield wrote:
>On 18/08/2010, at 10:51 AM, Owen, Clint wrote:
>
>>Alan,
>>
>>I am not defending Apple, because I have not dealt with them, but this
>>could be a matter of terminology.
>
>Actually, nothing to do with Apple. And I have never had this 
>problem with them.
>
>This is these guys: http://www.parallels.com/
>
>>
>>For some software that I have bought in the past, an "extended download
>>service" would let you download a fresh copy of your purchase for an
>>extended length of time. So, the standard price gives you 30 days or so
>>to download the product, but for a few dollars more you can get a new
>>copy six months from now if your system crashes and you lose your
>>backup.
>
>It seems that it is a "download fee" that is non-optional over and 
>above the purchase price. The alternative is to buy a disc at 
>21.26NZD. !!
>
>It is a con and was a hidden charge that appeared on the shopping 
>cart checkout screen.
>
>Cheers
>Alan
>
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