RE: Page Numbering Problem
Howard Rauch wrote: Under Format/Page Layout/Pagination - Double Sided (I have left and right master pages) - Left Side (the chapter should begin on the left page) - Delete Empty Pages Under Format/Document/Numbering/Page - Continue Numbering from Previous Page in Book This chapter should be pages 18-19. When I renumber the book, Frame adds a blank page 20 and changes the Pagination to Make Page Count Odd. The settings are the identical for the chapter. I also checked the upstream and downstream chapters. They are set up the same way. Just thought of something else: Check the pagination settings of the first paragraph in the file following the problem file and make sure Start isn't set to Top of Right Page. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Page Numbering Problem
If you delete the blank pages do they reappear after an update? Alan On 19/02/2010, at 12:52 PM, Howard Rauch wrote: > FrameMaker 7.0 (there are still some of us) > Windows XP Pro > > What am is doing wrong or what do I need to do? The problem I am > having is that FM now adds a blank page no matter what settings I > use and I can't figure out why. The only change from the previous > version is that the chapter now has two pages instead of one, but FM > insists on adding a third page. I compared this version's settings > with the previous version. They are the same. I also compared the > settings for the upstream and downstream chapters. They are also the > same. I've also compared the books' settings -- Ditto. The book > settings are as follows: > > Under Format/Page Layout/Pagination > - Double Sided (I have left and right master pages) > - Left Side (the chapter should begin on the left page) > - Delete Empty Pages > > Under Format/Document/Numbering/Page > - Continue Numbering from Previous Page in Book > > This chapter should be pages 18-19. When I renumber the book, Frame > adds a blank page 20 and changes the Pagination to "Make Page Count > Odd." > > The settings are the identical for the chapter. I also checked the > upstream and downstream chapters. They are set up the same way. > > Any thoughts? (I am nearly to my wit's end with this problem.) > > -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice
Page Numbering Problem
Howard Rauch wrote: > Under Format/Page Layout/Pagination > - Double Sided (I have?left and right master pages) > - Left Side (the chapter should begin on the left page) > - Delete Empty Pages > > Under Format/Document/Numbering/Page > - Continue Numbering from Previous Page in Book > > This chapter should be pages 18-19. When I renumber the book, Frame adds a > blank page 20 and changes the Pagination to "Make Page Count Odd." > > The settings are the identical for the chapter. I also checked the upstream > and downstream chapters. They are set up the same way. Just thought of something else: Check the pagination settings of the first paragraph in the file following the problem file and make sure Start isn't set to Top of Right Page. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Page Numbering Problem
FrameMaker 7.0 (there are still some of us) Windows XP Pro What am is doing wrong or what do I need to do? The problem I am having is that FM now adds a blank page no matter what settings I use and I can't figure out why. The only change from the previous version is that the chapter now has two pages instead of one, but FM insists on adding a third page. I compared this version's settings with the previous version. They are the same. I also compared the settings for the upstream and downstream chapters. They are also the same. I've also compared the books' settings -- Ditto. The book settings are as follows: Under Format/Page Layout/Pagination - Double Sided (I have left and right master pages) - Left Side (the chapter should begin on the left page) - Delete Empty Pages Under Format/Document/Numbering/Page - Continue Numbering from Previous Page in Book This chapter should be pages 18-19. When I renumber the book, Frame adds a blank page 20 and changes the Pagination to Make Page Count Odd. The settings are the identical for the chapter. I also checked the upstream and downstream chapters. They are set up the same way. Any thoughts? (I am nearly to my wit's end with this problem.) Howard Technology Transfer, Inc. Linking Creators and Users of Technology 933 North 18th Street Manitowoc WI 54220 Office: 920-682-1528 Cell: 920-629-1782 920-629-0080 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Page Numbering Problem
If you delete the blank pages do they reappear after an update? Alan On 19/02/2010, at 12:52 PM, Howard Rauch wrote: FrameMaker 7.0 (there are still some of us) Windows XP Pro What am is doing wrong or what do I need to do? The problem I am having is that FM now adds a blank page no matter what settings I use and I can't figure out why. The only change from the previous version is that the chapter now has two pages instead of one, but FM insists on adding a third page. I compared this version's settings with the previous version. They are the same. I also compared the settings for the upstream and downstream chapters. They are also the same. I've also compared the books' settings -- Ditto. The book settings are as follows: Under Format/Page Layout/Pagination - Double Sided (I have left and right master pages) - Left Side (the chapter should begin on the left page) - Delete Empty Pages Under Format/Document/Numbering/Page - Continue Numbering from Previous Page in Book This chapter should be pages 18-19. When I renumber the book, Frame adds a blank page 20 and changes the Pagination to Make Page Count Odd. The settings are the identical for the chapter. I also checked the upstream and downstream chapters. They are set up the same way. Any thoughts? (I am nearly to my wit's end with this problem.) -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Page Numbering Problem
You are likely to get better answers from others on the list but one thing to check is that there aren't extra paragraph markers after the last paragraph that are causing Frame to generate an extra page. -Huntley On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Howard Rauch techtrans...@sbcglobal.net wrote: FrameMaker 7.0 (there are still some of us) Windows XP Pro What am is doing wrong or what do I need to do? The problem I am having is that FM now adds a blank page no matter what settings I use and I can't figure out why. The only change from the previous version is that the chapter now has two pages instead of one, but FM insists on adding a third page. I compared this version's settings with the previous version. They are the same. I also compared the settings for the upstream and downstream chapters. They are also the same. I've also compared the books' settings -- Ditto. The book settings are as follows: Under Format/Page Layout/Pagination - Double Sided (I have left and right master pages) - Left Side (the chapter should begin on the left page) - Delete Empty Pages Under Format/Document/Numbering/Page - Continue Numbering from Previous Page in Book This chapter should be pages 18-19. When I renumber the book, Frame adds a blank page 20 and changes the Pagination to Make Page Count Odd. The settings are the identical for the chapter. I also checked the upstream and downstream chapters. They are set up the same way. Any thoughts? (I am nearly to my wit's end with this problem.) Howard Technology Transfer, Inc. Linking Creators and Users of Technology 933 North 18th Street Manitowoc WI 54220 Office: 920-682-1528 Cell: 920-629-1782 920-629-0080 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as huntl...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/huntleye%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Page Numbering Problem
The key to making this work is to set the pagination properties from the book file rather than from the individual file and do *not* specify the starting page side except for the first file in the book (which will presumably start on a right page). What you need to use is the Next Available option for the starting page, and that option is only availabe from the book file. (An individual file has no knowledge of what precedes it so next available is a meanigless concept for an isolated file.) Keep the Delete Empty Pages option as-is and you should be all set after doing an Update Book. Note that you can set Next Available for multiple files by selecting all files that will have the same properties in the book window, right-clicking on the selection, and choosing Pagination from the context menu. -Fred Ridder Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:52:52 -0800 From: techtrans...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Page Numbering Problem To: framers@lists.frameusers.com FrameMaker 7.0 (there are still some of us) Windows XP Pro What am is doing wrong or what do I need to do? The problem I am having is that FM now adds a blank page no matter what settings I use and I can't figure out why. The only change from the previous version is that the chapter now has two pages instead of one, but FM insists on adding a third page. I compared this version's settings with the previous version. They are the same. I also compared the settings for the upstream and downstream chapters. They are also the same. I've also compared the books' settings -- Ditto. The book settings are as follows: Under Format/Page Layout/Pagination - Double Sided (I have left and right master pages) - Left Side (the chapter should begin on the left page) - Delete Empty Pages Under Format/Document/Numbering/Page - Continue Numbering from Previous Page in Book This chapter should be pages 18-19. When I renumber the book, Frame adds a blank page 20 and changes the Pagination to Make Page Count Odd. The settings are the identical for the chapter. I also checked the upstream and downstream chapters. They are set up the same way. Any thoughts? (I am nearly to my wit's end with this problem.) Howard Technology Transfer, Inc. Linking Creators and Users of Technology 933 North 18th Street Manitowoc WI 54220 Office: 920-682-1528 Cell: 920-629-1782 920-629-0080 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Page Numbering Problem
FrameMaker 7.0 (there are still some of us) Windows XP Pro What am is doing wrong or what do I need to do??The problem I am?having is that FM now adds a blank page no matter what settings I use and I can't figure out why. The only change from the previous version is that the chapter?now has?two pages instead of?one, but FM insists on adding a third page. I compared this version's settings with?the previous version. They are the same. I also compared the?settings for the upstream and downstream chapters. They are also the same. I've also compared the books' settings -- Ditto. The book settings are as follows: Under Format/Page Layout/Pagination - Double Sided (I have?left and right master pages) - Left Side (the chapter should begin on the left page) - Delete Empty Pages Under Format/Document/Numbering/Page - Continue Numbering from Previous Page in Book This chapter should be pages 18-19. When I renumber the book, Frame adds a blank page 20 and changes the Pagination to "Make Page Count Odd." The settings are the identical for the chapter. I also checked the upstream and downstream chapters. They are set up the same way. Any thoughts? (I am nearly to my wit's end with this problem.) Howard Technology Transfer, Inc. "Linking Creators and Users of Technology" 933 North 18th Street Manitowoc WI 54220 Office: 920-682-1528 Cell: 920-629-1782 920-629-0080
Page Numbering Problem
You are likely to get better answers from others on the list but one thing to check is that there aren't extra paragraph markers after the last paragraph that are causing Frame to generate an extra page. -Huntley On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Howard Rauch wrote: > FrameMaker 7.0 (there are still some of us) > Windows XP Pro > > What am is doing wrong or what do I need to do??The problem I am?having is > that FM now adds a blank page no matter what settings I use and I can't > figure out why. The only change from the previous version is that the > chapter?now has?two pages instead of?one, but FM insists on adding a third > page. I compared this version's settings with?the previous version. They are > the same. I also compared the?settings for the upstream and downstream > chapters. They are also the same. I've also compared the books' settings -- > Ditto. The book settings are as follows: > > Under Format/Page Layout/Pagination > - Double Sided (I have?left and right master pages) > - Left Side (the chapter should begin on the left page) > - Delete Empty Pages > > Under Format/Document/Numbering/Page > - Continue Numbering from Previous Page in Book > > This chapter should be pages 18-19. When I renumber the book, Frame adds a > blank page 20 and changes the Pagination to "Make Page Count Odd." > > The settings are the identical for the chapter. I also checked the upstream > and downstream chapters. They are set up the same way. > > Any thoughts? (I am nearly to my wit's end with this problem.) > > Howard > > Technology Transfer, Inc. > "Linking Creators and Users of Technology" > 933 North 18th Street > Manitowoc WI 54220 > Office: 920-682-1528 > Cell: 920-629-1782 > 920-629-0080 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as huntleye at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/huntleye%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Page Numbering Problem
The key to making this work is to set the pagination properties from the book file rather than from the individual file and do *not* specify the starting page side except for the first file in the book (which will presumably start on a right page). What you need to use is the "Next Available" option for the starting page, and that option is only availabe from the book file. (An individual file has no knowledge of what precedes it so "next available" is a meanigless concept for an isolated file.) Keep the "Delete Empty Pages" option as-is and you should be all set after doing an Update Book. Note that you can set "Next Available for multiple files by selecting all files that will have the same properties in the book window, right-clicking on the selection, and choosing Pagination from the context menu. -Fred Ridder > Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:52:52 -0800 > From: techtransfer at sbcglobal.net > Subject: Page Numbering Problem > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > > FrameMaker 7.0 (there are still some of us) > Windows XP Pro > > What am is doing wrong or what do I need to do? The problem I am having is > that FM now adds a blank page no matter what settings I use and I can't > figure out why. The only change from the previous version is that the chapter > now has two pages instead of one, but FM insists on adding a third page. I > compared this version's settings with the previous version. They are the > same. I also compared the settings for the upstream and downstream chapters. > They are also the same. I've also compared the books' settings -- Ditto. The > book settings are as follows: > > Under Format/Page Layout/Pagination > - Double Sided (I have left and right master pages) > - Left Side (the chapter should begin on the left page) > - Delete Empty Pages > > Under Format/Document/Numbering/Page > - Continue Numbering from Previous Page in Book > > This chapter should be pages 18-19. When I renumber the book, Frame adds a > blank page 20 and changes the Pagination to "Make Page Count Odd." > > The settings are the identical for the chapter. I also checked the upstream > and downstream chapters. They are set up the same way. > > Any thoughts? (I am nearly to my wit's end with this problem.) > > Howard > > Technology Transfer, Inc. > "Linking Creators and Users of Technology" > 933 North 18th Street > Manitowoc WI 54220 > Office: 920-682-1528 > Cell: 920-629-1782 > 920-629-0080 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Page Numbering Problem
Howard Rauch wrote: > Under Format/Page Layout/Pagination > - Double Sided (I have?left and right master pages) > - Left Side (the chapter should begin on the left page) > - Delete Empty Pages > > Under Format/Document/Numbering/Page > - Continue Numbering from Previous Page in Book > > This chapter should be pages 18-19. When I renumber the book, Frame adds a > blank page 20 and changes the Pagination to "Make Page Count Odd." > > The settings are the identical for the chapter. I also checked the upstream > and downstream chapters. They are set up the same way. As Fred said, be sure to set the pagination in the book window (selecting all the files that should have the same settings), not in each file. But the first file doesn't just "presumably start on a right page, " it _must_. (Forgive the pedantry, Fred. :-) ) So some file before the first chapter has to have an odd number of pages. Fred's suggestion of using Next Available and Delete Empty pages makes sense if you don't care which side a chapter starts on, but since you say that not only this chapter, but the upstream and downstream ones have 1st Page Side set to Left, I'm assuming you want all chapters to start on the left side. For the chapter files, set Before Saving & Printing to Make Page Count Even. If all the chapters have 1st Page Side set to Left, setting it to Delete Empty Pages should give you the same result -- FM will still insert an empty page when necessary to start the next chapter on a left page. But making it explicit might help reveal the problem. If you set Before Saving & Printing to Make Page Count Even, then updating the book should make the problem chapter either two pages or four. If it's four (18-21), then something is preventing FM from deleting the "empty" page 20, so it adds page 21 to make the count even. The only two things I can think of that will do that are content that you can't see or a custom master page. You could have empty paragraphs at the end, as Huntley suggested (you should routinely work with View > Text Symbols turned on). But if that's the case, page 20 should be there even before you update the book. I'm getting ahead of myself -- I'm assuming there's a text frame on page 20 (you should have View > Borders turned on, too). When you update the book, do you have Apply Master Pages selected? Check your reference pages for a master page mapping table. On page 20, go to Format > Page Layout > Master Page Usage. Is it set to a Custom master page? Zoom out on page 20, click in the margin, and press Ctrl+A (Edit > Select All On Page). If your page layout consists of the standard single text frame per page, that should be the only thing selected (header/footer and other master page "background" elements aren't part of the body page). Maybe there's something else on the page? That's all I can think of right now, and ought to give you some things to explore. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
