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Dear Pat:
Captivate 6 imports Powerpoint files seamlessly and then you can embed them
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Dear Pat:
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Re: Powerpoint to FrameMaker

[Robert Lauriston]

You might try saving as RTF from PowerPoint and importing that into a
FM document.

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My copy of PowerPoint (2010 aka 14) can't save as .doc or .docx, only .rtf.

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RE: Powerpoint to FrameMaker

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Robert Lauriston wrote:
 
 My copy of PowerPoint (2010 aka 14) can't save as .doc or .docx, only
 .rtf.
 
 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  You can save PPT to Word and import that into FM. How easy it'll be
 really
  depends on how the PPT was designed.

I have PPT 2007, and can't save as DOC, DOCX, or RTF. My only options are PDF, 
ODF, XPS, HTML, MHTML, a bunch of PPT formats, and a bunch of graphics formats. 

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Re: Powerpoint to FrameMaker

[Stuart Rogers]

On 26/11/2012 5:40 PM, Combs, Richard wrote:

Pat Christenson wrote:


I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be
transferred to FrameMaker 9.





If you want to reuse the text and graphics, but not as they appear in
the PPT slides, you'll probably have to cut and paste. But you might
experiment with saving the PPT file as HTML. If nothing else, that
should give you the graphics as individual files, and that may be
both more convenient and better quality than if you copy/paste them.




If you have the later versions of Powerpoint that save as .pptx, you can 
access the original graphics with this method:


1. Save as .pptx (if it's not already in that format).
2. Close Powerpoint.
3. Rename your file.pptx to file.zip. (Dismiss the warning.)
4. Unzip the file.  Several folders will be created.
5. Open the media folder to see all the graphics.

HTH,

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Re: Powerpoint to FrameMaker

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Sorry, I meant .rtf. You may want to clean up the .rtf in Word before
importing to FrameMaker.


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Re: Powerpoint to FrameMaker

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The version I have can only save the outline as rtf.

Pat


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 My copy of PowerPoint (2010 aka 14) can't save as .doc or .docx, only .rtf.
 
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[Combs, Richard]

Robert Lauriston wrote:

> My copy of PowerPoint (2010 aka 14) can't save as .doc or .docx, only
> .rtf.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Bill Swallow 
> wrote:
> > You can save PPT to Word and import that into FM. How easy it'll be
> really
> > depends on how the PPT was designed.

I have PPT 2007, and can't save as DOC, DOCX, or RTF. My only options are PDF, 
ODF, XPS, HTML, MHTML, a bunch of PPT formats, and a bunch of graphics formats. 

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[Stuart Rogers]

On 26/11/2012 5:40 PM, Combs, Richard wrote:
> Pat Christenson wrote:
>
>> I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be
>> transferred to FrameMaker 9.



> If you want to reuse the text and graphics, but not as they appear in
> the PPT slides, you'll probably have to cut and paste. But you might
> experiment with saving the PPT file as HTML. If nothing else, that
> should give you the graphics as individual files, and that may be
> both more convenient and better quality than if you copy/paste them.
>


If you have the later versions of Powerpoint that save as .pptx, you can 
access the original graphics with this method:

1. Save as .pptx (if it's not already in that format).
2. Close Powerpoint.
3. Rename your file.pptx to file.zip. (Dismiss the warning.)
4. Unzip the file.  Several folders will be created.
5. Open the "media" folder to see all the graphics.

HTH,

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Powerpoint to FrameMaker

[Bill Swallow]

Sorry, I meant .rtf. You may want to clean up the .rtf in Word before
importing to FrameMaker.


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

> My copy of PowerPoint (2010 aka 14) can't save as .doc or .docx, only .rtf.
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Bill Swallow 
> wrote:
> > You can save PPT to Word and import that into FM. How easy it'll be
> really
> > depends on how the PPT was designed.
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[Pat Christenson]

The version I have can only save the outline as rtf.

Pat


On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

> My copy of PowerPoint (2010 aka 14) can't save as .doc or .docx, only .rtf.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Bill Swallow  
> wrote:
>> You can save PPT to Word and import that into FM. How easy it'll be really
>> depends on how the PPT was designed.
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I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be transferred 
to FrameMaker 9. I'm assuming this is a cut-and-paste procedure but if anyone 
has any tips, I'd appreciate hearing about them.

I have PowerPoint for both Mac and Windows, if that helps any.

Thanks!

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RE: Powerpoint to FrameMaker

[Combs, Richard]

Pat Christenson wrote:
 
 I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be
 transferred to FrameMaker 9. I'm assuming this is a cut-and-paste
 procedure but if anyone has any tips, I'd appreciate hearing about
 them.
 
 I have PowerPoint for both Mac and Windows, if that helps any.

If you want to preserve the PPT layout, save the PPT file as a PDF and import 
each page of the PDF into an FM page. 

If you want to reuse the text and graphics, but not as they appear in the PPT 
slides, you'll probably have to cut and paste. But you might experiment with 
saving the PPT file as HTML. If nothing else, that should give you the graphics 
as individual files, and that may be both more convenient and better quality 
than if you copy/paste them. 

Heck, you might want to try saving the PPT as HTML, then opening that in Word, 
and then opening the Word doc in FM. shrug / Could be usable, could be a 
mess. If it's a mess, try importing the Word doc into FM as plain text, 
retagging it there, and using the graphics files from the HTML conversion. 

HTH!

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[Bill Swallow]

You can save PPT to Word and import that into FM. How easy it'll be really
depends on how the PPT was designed.


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 I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be
 transferred to FrameMaker 9. I'm assuming this is a cut-and-paste procedure
 but if anyone has any tips, I'd appreciate hearing about them.

 I have PowerPoint for both Mac and Windows, if that helps any.

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SOLVED (sort of) Powerpoint to FrameMaker

[Pat Christenson]

Here's what I've come up with.

I save the Powerpoint file as a PDF, then use Able2Doc to convert the PDF to 
Word. (I've found I get a very clean conversion after using Able2Doc.)

I imported the resulting Word file into FrameMaker. Text and graphics are 
imported cleanly.

There's still a lot of manual cleanup but I think it's better than 
Cut-and-Paste.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Pat


On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Bill Swallow wrote:

 You can save PPT to Word and import that into FM. How easy it'll be really 
 depends on how the PPT was designed.
 
 
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 I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be transferred 
 to FrameMaker 9. I'm assuming this is a cut-and-paste procedure but if anyone 
 has any tips, I'd appreciate hearing about them.
 
 I have PowerPoint for both Mac and Windows, if that helps any.
 
 Thanks!
 
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[Pat Christenson]

I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be transferred 
to FrameMaker 9. I'm assuming this is a cut-and-paste procedure but if anyone 
has any tips, I'd appreciate hearing about them.

I have PowerPoint for both Mac and Windows, if that helps any.

Thanks!

Pat Christenson

Powerpoint to FrameMaker

[Combs, Richard]

Pat Christenson wrote:

> I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be
> transferred to FrameMaker 9. I'm assuming this is a cut-and-paste
> procedure but if anyone has any tips, I'd appreciate hearing about
> them.
> 
> I have PowerPoint for both Mac and Windows, if that helps any.

If you want to preserve the PPT layout, save the PPT file as a PDF and import 
each page of the PDF into an FM page. 

If you want to reuse the text and graphics, but not as they appear in the PPT 
slides, you'll probably have to cut and paste. But you might experiment with 
saving the PPT file as HTML. If nothing else, that should give you the graphics 
as individual files, and that may be both more convenient and better quality 
than if you copy/paste them. 

Heck, you might want to try saving the PPT as HTML, then opening that in Word, 
and then opening the Word doc in FM.  Could be usable, could be a 
mess. If it's a mess, try importing the Word doc into FM as plain text, 
retagging it there, and using the graphics files from the HTML conversion. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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Powerpoint to FrameMaker

[Bill Swallow]

You can save PPT to Word and import that into FM. How easy it'll be really
depends on how the PPT was designed.


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Pat Christenson  wrote:

> I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be
> transferred to FrameMaker 9. I'm assuming this is a cut-and-paste procedure
> but if anyone has any tips, I'd appreciate hearing about them.
>
> I have PowerPoint for both Mac and Windows, if that helps any.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Pat Christenson
>
>
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SOLVED (sort of) Powerpoint to FrameMaker

[Pat Christenson]

Here's what I've come up with.

I save the Powerpoint file as a PDF, then use Able2Doc to convert the PDF to 
Word. (I've found I get a very clean conversion after using Able2Doc.)

I imported the resulting Word file into FrameMaker. Text and graphics are 
imported cleanly.

There's still a lot of manual cleanup but I think it's better than 
Cut-and-Paste.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Pat


On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Bill Swallow wrote:

> You can save PPT to Word and import that into FM. How easy it'll be really 
> depends on how the PPT was designed.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Pat Christenson  wrote:
> I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be transferred 
> to FrameMaker 9. I'm assuming this is a cut-and-paste procedure but if anyone 
> has any tips, I'd appreciate hearing about them.
> 
> I have PowerPoint for both Mac and Windows, if that helps any.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Pat Christenson
> 
> 
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[Robert Lauriston]

You might try saving as RTF from PowerPoint and importing that into a
FM document.

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Pat Christenson  wrote:
> I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be transferred 
> to FrameMaker 9. I'm assuming this is a cut-and-paste procedure but if anyone 
> has any tips, I'd appreciate hearing about them.

Powerpoint to FrameMaker

[Robert Lauriston]

My copy of PowerPoint (2010 aka 14) can't save as .doc or .docx, only .rtf.

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Bill Swallow  wrote:
> You can save PPT to Word and import that into FM. How easy it'll be really
> depends on how the PPT was designed.

RE: PowerPoint to Framemaker

[Dov Isaacs]

One should be very careful in using RTF as the means of transferring PowerPoint 
slides to a FrameMaker document.

The last several versions of Microsoft Office applications support live 
transparency (drop shadows, reflections, clipped images, etc.) and saving to 
RTF from these applications supports this. However, FrameMaker's imaging model 
does not support live transparency in any way. Transparency effects from RTF 
will likely be lost or misinterpreted when brought into a FrameMaker document.

Thus, is you want the highest fidelity for such PowerPoint slides when 
importing into FrameMaker, use the Acrobat Save as PDF function from 
Microsoft PowerPoint and then import into FrameMaker. Such content is obviously 
not editable, but will maintain graphical integrity.

If you need to be able to edit the slide content in FrameMaker, RTF is a 
solution as long as you understand that you will probably not maintain 
graphical integrity!

- Dov

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan Litchfield
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:39 PM
To: Rick Quatro
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PowerPoint to Framemaker


Or export from Powerpoint as rtf.



Alan



On 8/10/2011, at 1:33 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:



 Hi Gillian,



 If you don't need to edit the slides in FrameMaker, you could save them as 
 PDF and import the PDF into your FrameMaker document.



 Rick Quatro

 Carmen Publishing Inc.

 585-659-8267

 r...@frameexpert.commailto:r...@frameexpert.com







 From: 
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 Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:02 PM

 To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com

 Subject: PowerPoint to Framemaker



 Anyone know a utility for converting PowerPoint slides with lots of graphics 
 to FrameMaker, or something that can be imported into Frame?



 Thank you,





 Gillian Flato

 Senior Technical Writer (Software)

 nanometrics

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[Dov Isaacs]

One should be very careful in using RTF as the means of transferring PowerPoint 
slides to a FrameMaker document.

The last several versions of Microsoft Office applications support live 
transparency (drop shadows, reflections, clipped images, etc.) and saving to 
RTF from these applications supports this. However, FrameMaker's imaging model 
does not support live transparency in any way. Transparency effects from RTF 
will likely be lost or misinterpreted when brought into a FrameMaker document.

Thus, is you want the highest fidelity for such PowerPoint slides when 
importing into FrameMaker, use the Acrobat "Save as PDF" function from 
Microsoft PowerPoint and then import into FrameMaker. Such content is obviously 
not editable, but will maintain graphical integrity.

If you need to be able to edit the slide content in FrameMaker, RTF is a 
solution as long as you understand that you will probably not maintain 
graphical integrity!

- Dov

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan Litchfield
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To: Rick Quatro
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PowerPoint to Framemaker


Or export from Powerpoint as rtf.



Alan



On 8/10/2011, at 1:33 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:



> Hi Gillian,

>

> If you don't need to edit the slides in FrameMaker, you could save them as 
> PDF and import the PDF into your FrameMaker document.

>

> Rick Quatro

> Carmen Publishing Inc.

> 585-659-8267

> rick at frameexpert.com<mailto:rick at frameexpert.com>

>

>

>

> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com]<mailto:[mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com]> On Behalf Of Flato, Gillian

> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:02 PM

> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>

> Subject: PowerPoint to Framemaker

>

> Anyone know a utility for converting PowerPoint slides with lots of graphics 
> to FrameMaker, or something that can be imported into Frame?

>

> Thank you,

>

>

> Gillian Flato

> Senior Technical Writer (Software)

> nanometrics

> 1550 Buckeye Dr.

> Milpitas, CA. 95035

> (408.545.6316

> 7  408.232.5911

> * gflato at nanometrics.com<mailto:gflato at nanometrics.com>
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PowerPoint to Framemaker

[Flato, Gillian]

Anyone know a utility for converting PowerPoint slides with lots of graphics to 
FrameMaker, or something that can be imported into Frame?

Thank you,


Gillian Flato
Senior Technical Writer (Software)
nanometrics
1550 Buckeye Dr.
Milpitas, CA. 95035
*408.545.6316
7  408.232.5911
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RE: PowerPoint to Framemaker

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Gillian,

 

If you don't need to edit the slides in FrameMaker, you could save them as
PDF and import the PDF into your FrameMaker document.

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-659-8267

r...@frameexpert.com

 

 

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Flato, Gillian
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:02 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: PowerPoint to Framemaker

 

Anyone know a utility for converting PowerPoint slides with lots of graphics
to FrameMaker, or something that can be imported into Frame?

 

Thank you,

 

 

Gillian Flato

Senior Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr. 

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.545.6316

7  408.232.5911

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Re: PowerPoint to Framemaker

[Alan Litchfield]

Or export from Powerpoint as rtf.

Alan

On 8/10/2011, at 1:33 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

 Hi Gillian,
  
 If you don’t need to edit the slides in FrameMaker, you could save them as 
 PDF and import the PDF into your FrameMaker document.
  
 Rick Quatro
 Carmen Publishing Inc.
 585-659-8267
 r...@frameexpert.com
  
  
  
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Flato, Gillian
 Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:02 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: PowerPoint to Framemaker
  
 Anyone know a utility for converting PowerPoint slides with lots of graphics 
 to FrameMaker, or something that can be imported into Frame?
  
 Thank you,
  
  
 Gillian Flato
 Senior Technical Writer (Software)
 nanometrics
 1550 Buckeye Dr.
 Milpitas, CA. 95035
 (408.545.6316
 7  408.232.5911
 * gfl...@nanometrics.com
  
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