Re: Unavailable Fonts error
Have you tried saving as .mif and searching for that font? On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com wrote: A file (generated file from a plain text source) keeps displaying the unavailable fonts error each time it opens. I've run Silicoin Prairie's Paragraph Tools on this file, and the only font it finds in the file is HelveticaNeueLT Std--exactly as it should be. I've checked the master pages (four)--no hidden text boxes; and the reference page (one)--nothing else there. What could the error be pointing to? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Unavailable Fonts error
Hi Karen The other option is to save the file as MIF, open it in a text editor and look for fonts. MIFs are pretty human-readable. Cheers Rebecca Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com 24/01/13 13:54 Karen Robbins wrote: A file (generated file from a plain text source) keeps displaying the unavailable fonts error each time it opens. I've run Silicoin Prairie's Paragraph Tools on this file, and the only font it finds in the file is HelveticaNeueLT Std--exactly as it should be. I've checked the master pages (four)--no hidden text boxes; and the reference page (one)--nothing else there. What could the error be pointing to? What version of FM? Which fonts are unavailable (listed in the Console window). The most likely suspect is a paragraph in the default instance of a table format. For a new file not based on a template you've created, there are probably only two: Format A and Format B. Insert an instance of each table format (with a heading, body, and footing row) and check the paragraphs in those. If you find the problem, change the paragraph formats (or redefine them to use the correct font). Then, in the Table Designer dialog box, click Update All. That will update the default for that table format to use the changed paragraph formats. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesis.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Unavailable Fonts error
At 17:21 -0800 23/1/13, Karen Robbins wrote: You are correct, that's just what it was--Times instances in the default tables. (I did the mif to find this out; there are no tables in the document itself.) I already thought I'd have to do what you say... How annoying that I have to do this extra work to undo a presumptuous default. SiliconPrairie's Table Tools plugin can delete any table tags that aren't used in a document, including the default tags. 'Unavailable' fonts can also hide on reference and master pages (I think: haven't checked this). But these will also show up in a MIF search. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Unavailable Fonts error
Karen Robbins wrote: You are correct, that's just what it was--Times instances in the default tables. (I did the mif to find this out; there are no tables in the document itself.) That's why I said to insert an instance of each table format. I already thought I'd have to do what you say... How annoying that I have to do this extra work to undo a presumptuous default. It's not a _presumptuous_ default. When you create a table, each cell has to contain _some_ paragraph. And each paragraph has to use _some_ font. So defaults have to exist. You can change the default paragraphs and fonts that each table format uses as I described. Or you can map the unavailable font to the replacement of your choice in the maker.ini file (and turn off Remember Missing Font Names in File Preferences General). Or for a comprehensive, permanent solution, you can modify any and all format definitions to suit you (as well as which formats exist) in the behind-the-scenes template that FM uses when you create a new document without selecting a template (Use Blank Paper). It's named shellnew.fm, and it's located in the fminit subdirectory of your FM installation directory. Just open it, redefine everything as you like (including the defaults for the table formats), and save it. From then on, new docs will have exactly the formats, fonts, defaults, etc., that you want. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Unavailable Fonts error
I sure do learn something new every day! :-) I could also define those formats in a stock document and always import them to the working document. I do something similar for indexes--a format master imported each time a new one is generated. I like the idea of using SP's Table Tools to just remove what's not being used, too. Somehow seems safer than diving in to program files on my own. Thanks all! K ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Unavailable Fonts error
On 24/01/2013 11:18 AM, Karen Robbins wrote: I sure do learn something new every day! :-) I could also define those formats in a stock document and always import them to the working document. I do something similar for indexes--a format master imported each time a new one is generated. I like the idea of using SP's Table Tools to just remove what's not being used, too. Somehow seems safer than diving in to program files on my own. If you're on FM 10 or later (maybe 9, too?), you can use the Options button in each of the pgf, char, and table format catalogs to delete unused formats. No plug-in required. s. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Unavailable Fonts error
On 24/01/2013 11:05 AM, Combs, Richard wrote: Or for a comprehensive, permanent solution, you can modify any and all format definitions to suit you (as well as which formats exist) in the behind-the-scenes template that FM uses when you create a new document without selecting a template (Use Blank Paper). It's named shellnew.fm, and it's located in the fminit subdirectory of your FM installation directory. Just open it, redefine everything as you like (including the defaults for the table formats), and save it. From then on, new docs will have exactly the formats, fonts, defaults, etc., that you want. Ah, if only that were true! I've been stymied trying to find the file to change that would result in new Portrait, Landscape, or Custom documents that don't have hidden Times New Roman and that DO remember I want my ruler in inches. I just modified shellnew.fm with your suggested changes, and there is no effect on a new document. The table formats still use Times New Roman, the ruler is still in cm. There is another file, custom with no extension, also in the fminit directory. I am able to use your instructions to change the default table properties in that file, and happily, the effect is evident in new Portrait, Landscape, and Custom documents. The bloody ruler, even though in inches in the custom file, and even though Units are set to inches in the Custom Blank Paper dialog, resolutely refuses to display inches. It's Adobe's (metric) way or the highway, I guess. s. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Unavailable Fonts error
Stuart Rogers wrote: I just modified shellnew.fm with your suggested changes, and there is no effect on a new document. The table formats still use Times New Roman, the ruler is still in cm. There is another file, custom with no extension, also in the fminit directory. I am able to use your instructions to change the default table properties in that file, and happily, the effect is evident in new Portrait, Landscape, and Custom documents. The bloody ruler, even though in inches in the custom file, and even though Units are set to inches in the Custom Blank Paper dialog, resolutely refuses to display inches. It's Adobe's (metric) way or the highway, I guess. Oops, sorry. I misremembered some information from many years ago. You're right, it's custom that's used when you create new blank paper documents in FM (shellnew.fm is used when you create a new FM doc outside of FM; don't ask me why). Here's some more information on this subject: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/help.html?content=Chap11-Pagelayout-Templates_57.html (That's in the FM 8 help. The equivalent topic in the FM 10 help is shorter and less helpful because someone apparently randomly removed chunks of content.) I don't know what controls the ruler units when you select Portrait or Landscape in the New dialog. But when you select Custom, what you set Units to in the Custom Blank Paper dialog is what you should get. It works for me in both FM 7.2 and 10. If Page Size is set to a US size, Units defaults to Inch, but I can change it to cm, click Create, and the new doc's rulers are in centimeters. If Page Size is set to a metric size, Units defaults to cm, but I can change it to Inch, click Create, and the new doc's rulers are in inches. Are you using FM 11? Maybe you've discovered a bug. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Unavailable Fonts error
I wrote: Oops, sorry. I misremembered some information from many years ago. You're right, it's custom that's used when you create new blank paper documents in FM (shellnew.fm is used when you create a new FM doc outside of FM; don't ask me why). Eating lunch seems to have slightly revived my memory -- enough to recall why I was confused. In the [Files] section of maker.ini, there's this entry: CustomDoc=fminit\custom You can change that to use some other file as the blank paper template -- such as shellnew.fm, if you don't see any point in using different templates for creating new docs inside and outside FM. :-) Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Unavailable Fonts error
For anyone still using FrameMaker 7 on Mac, the 'custom' file that sets the defaults for new blank documents seems to be /Adobe FrameMaker 7.0/Modules/Custom New Document, in whatever root folder you have located your Classic apps. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Unavailable Fonts Error: Save to .ps, but...
Saving to Postscript and distilling does work, but I did see a can't open [thisfilename].fm message at the bottom of the book window beneath the list of pages. The file did open, .ps file was created correctly, distilled correctly. I thought the save as PDF function in FM11 (my current version) had evolved beyond being so troublesome. Would still love to know a functional solution. Unchecking Remember missing font names preference had no effect. I believe in older versions of FM this had to be done for every file; but I don't see that in FM11. In any case, only this file as part of the book generated the error, and only this file is named in the error message. Saving the book to PDF without this file does not generate the error. This file DOES convert to PDF by itself, no problem at all. Deleting unused formats in this file from the Paragraph Catalog and the Table Catalog does not prevent the book error, Could not open [thisfilename].fm, because it uses unavailable fonts, on saving as PDF. Doing the same from the Character Catalog still leaves a default ΒΆ font that cannot be removed (or modified from the user interface at least). I presume that default contains the missing but unused Times font. In a copy of my file, I inserted one of each table default format (A and B), changed the fonts from Times to what I wanted and clicked update all each time, saved the file. Then I opened my actual file, imported the formats from the copy, saved. Tried to save as PDF--and got the same error. Maybe the changes made in the copy don't stick, or maybe they won't import to another file. Either way I'd be stuck doing this over and over--no help to workflow. Note: Times appeared in gray in the Paragraph Designer font pull-down, so I am fairly confident it is the culprit. If modifying the custom program file only works on new docs, that won't help... this project is based on established files and templates. I have other versions of Times so I have no need for the missing one, unless it is essential to FM's operation. At least one of those other versions appears in reference pages (mapping table cells, etc.), but plain Times does not. --Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Unavailable Fonts error
Karen Robbins wrote: A file (generated file from a plain text source) keeps displaying the unavailable fonts error each time it opens. I've run Silicoin Prairie's Paragraph Tools on this file, and the only font it finds in the file is HelveticaNeueLT Std--exactly as it should be. I've checked the master pages (four)--no hidden text boxes; and the reference page (one)--nothing else there. What could the error be pointing to? What version of FM? Which fonts are unavailable (listed in the Console window). The most likely suspect is a paragraph in the default instance of a table format. For a new file not based on a template you've created, there are probably only two: Format A and Format B. Insert an instance of each table format (with a heading, body, and footing row) and check the paragraphs in those. If you find the problem, change the paragraph formats (or redefine them to use the correct font). Then, in the Table Designer dialog box, click Update All. That will update the default for that table format to use the changed paragraph formats. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Unavailable Fonts error
You are correct, that's just what it was--Times instances in the default tables. (I did the mif to find this out; there are no tables in the document itself.) I already thought I'd have to do what you say... How annoying that I have to do this extra work to undo a presumptuous default. Forgive my annoyance; I'm so lucky the listers are here to help! Much thanks, Karen The most likely suspect is a paragraph in the default instance of a table format. For a new file not based on a template you've created, there are probably only two: Format A and Format B. Insert an instance of each table format (with a heading, body, and footing row) and check the paragraphs in those. If you find the problem, change the paragraph formats (or redefine them to use the correct font). Then, in the Table Designer dialog box, click Update All. That will update the default for that table format to use the changed paragraph formats. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesis.co.nzhttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesis.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
