Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10
Slightly off topic, but I made a product that manages variables on the web. You have a PHP web app running on your web server, and then Maker interfaces with it directly. The variable definitions are extracted out of the document as a text file and posted onto the web site. Then you can import one or more of the variables from each catalog that's up there (if you want to). So it did two things... Enhanced variables management in Maker, and set up global, centralized management of your enterprise variables on a web site. It got a 100% yawn, I might add (if that much). Not one person so much as wanted to give it a beta test. So I haven't looked at it for a year or so. If this is real important, I might be able to massage it into something that would answer this problem... cud ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10
I think he wants to compare first, before changing. This is another situation where scanning the file for the variable definitions via script is fairly easy. Powershell is slow but would work on Windows to scan the two mifs and spit out what each variable is defined as. Craig -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 9:33 PM To: rebecca officer; Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10 Create a third, blank FM file with the correct variables set. Import the variables from that template into each of the two other FM files so that they are using the same variables. Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10
This could work as a compare as well if you save the original file before the import and then do a file compare with the resulting file after import. Any changed variables would then be flagged so you could revert or otherwise alter them. Craig -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 9:33 PM To: rebecca officer; Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10 Create a third, blank FM file with the correct variables set. Import the variables from that template into each of the two other FM files so that they are using the same variables. Nadine Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com 7/07/12 09:06 I inherited this book so I don't know what kind of messes are lurking in the source, so I want to check that all the variables in two .fm files are the same before I modify one to update the other. The obvious thing seemed to be to bring up the Variables pod and switch between the two files to see if there are any differences, but (1) the pod can't be maximized, (2) at its maximum size it displays only about 2/3 of the variables, and (3) when I switch from one file to the other the pod scrolls back up to the top. (What idiot designed this?) Suggestions? I can use the Select: All Open Docs option, but the differences aren't as immediately apparent as switching between windows, so I'm afraid I'll miss something. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40a lliedtelesis.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo. ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10
I inherited this project and it'll take me a while to figure out what the correct variables are. In the meantime, I need to start updating it for the next release, and I have to avoid accidentally causing errors by overwriting inconsistently used variables. I have SnagIt so that's an option. On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Writer generic...@yahoo.ca wrote: Create a third, blank FM file with the correct variables set. Import the variables from that template into each of the two other FM files so that they are using the same variables. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Comparing variables in FM files in FM10
Hello Robert, I have had the same problem often in the past, and one of the annoying things about the Variabled pod is that you cannot easily see whether or not a variable is actually used. The suggestions done so far on this list did not impress me at all, but give me a challenge and I will not rest until I have cooked something up. I wrote an ExtendScript that lists all user-defined variables in two files and writes a report as CSV textile, which can be opened and studied in Excel. With that you will be able to determine which variables need to be deleted, copied, imported and in which direction the copying should be done. The CSV lists all variable names and shows whether or not they are defined in both input files, how many times they are used in both input files and whether they have different values in the two files. If I had a little more time I would include a dialog with checkboxes and an option to cleanup both files automatically, but I do have some paid scripting work to do and deadlines coming up. If you are interested, send me an e-mail and I will send you the script. As FM10 includes ExtendScript out of the box, you do not need to install anything to run it. I will also see if Adobe wants to make the script available on their site somewhere. It might be handy for more Frame users in this world. Kind regards from Amsterdam JANG Communication Coaching - Copywriting - Consulting Amsterdam - Netherlands Tel. +31 20 755 8466 Cell +31 6 5478 1632 http://www.jang.nl Message: 1 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 09:50:22 +1200 From: rebecca officer rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz To: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10 Message-ID: 4ffaa95e02380004a...@gwia.alliedtelesyn.co.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Take a screen snapshot of each variable pod and compare them from the snapshots. If you've got snagit, you can even use the scroll capture mode and get the whole pod in one snapshot. Cheers Rebecca Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com 7/07/12 09:06 I inherited this book so I don't know what kind of messes are lurking in the source, so I want to check that all the variables in two .fm files are the same before I modify one to update the other. The obvious thing seemed to be to bring up the Variables pod and switch between the two files to see if there are any differences, but (1) the pod can't be maximized, (2) at its maximum size it displays only about 2/3 of the variables, and (3) when I switch from one file to the other the pod scrolls back up to the top. (What idiot designed this?) ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10
Take a screen snapshot of each variable pod and compare them from the snapshots. If you've got snagit, you can even use the scroll capture mode and get the whole pod in one snapshot. Cheers Rebecca Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com 7/07/12 09:06 I inherited this book so I don't know what kind of messes are lurking in the source, so I want to check that all the variables in two .fm files are the same before I modify one to update the other. The obvious thing seemed to be to bring up the Variables pod and switch between the two files to see if there are any differences, but (1) the pod can't be maximized, (2) at its maximum size it displays only about 2/3 of the variables, and (3) when I switch from one file to the other the pod scrolls back up to the top. (What idiot designed this?) Suggestions? I can use the Select: All Open Docs option, but the differences aren't as immediately apparent as switching between windows, so I'm afraid I'll miss something. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesis.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10
Create a third, blank FM file with the correct variables set. Import the variables from that template into each of the two other FM files so that they are using the same variables. Nadine Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com 7/07/12 09:06 I inherited this book so I don't know what kind of messes are lurking in the source, so I want to check that all the variables in two .fm files are the same before I modify one to update the other. The obvious thing seemed to be to bring up the Variables pod and switch between the two files to see if there are any differences, but (1) the pod can't be maximized, (2) at its maximum size it displays only about 2/3 of the variables, and (3) when I switch from one file to the other the pod scrolls back up to the top. (What idiot designed this?) Suggestions? I can use the Select: All Open Docs option, but the differences aren't as immediately apparent as switching between windows, so I'm afraid I'll miss something. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesis.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10
You could buy a copy of Silicon Prairie's Variable Toll ($10.00) to help you compare things: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com Alison -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 2:06 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10 I inherited this book so I don't know what kind of messes are lurking in the source, so I want to check that all the variables in two .fm files are the same before I modify one to update the other. The obvious thing seemed to be to bring up the Variables pod and switch between the two files to see if there are any differences, but (1) the pod can't be maximized, (2) at its maximum size it displays only about 2/3 of the variables, and (3) when I switch from one file to the other the pod scrolls back up to the top. (What idiot designed this?) Suggestions? I can use the Select: All Open Docs option, but the differences aren't as immediately apparent as switching between windows, so I'm afraid I'll miss something. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.