RE: Conditional Pagination
I might be wrong, but I think you can avoid this by forcing the next-to-last file in the book to have odd page numbers. Then, your final file would just have one page, and would make the total page count to be even. Thus, it's the second-to-last file in the book that would flex (adding a blank page when necessary to make the page count odd), and that could be done automatically. You could thereby avoid the dual-book approach. Regards, Seraphim ___ Seraphim Larsen CIG Operations / TPPE Senior Technical Writer Intel Corporation (480) 552-6504 Chandler, AZ The content of this message is my personal opinion only. Although I am an employee of Intel, the statements I make here in no way represent Intel's position on the issue, nor am I authorized to speak on behalf of Intel on this matter. ___ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:39 AM To: Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination Solution to the pagination problem: Add two extra back cover files to the book One file for the manual that ends with even pages (adds two extra pages) One file for the manual that ends with odd pages (adds one extra page) Create two book files, one for each manual May be the long way around, but it works. Thank you to all for your advise. dominick Dominick A. DeFlorio Senior Technical Writer Plug Power, Inc. 968 Albany-Shaker Road Latham, NY 12110 (518) 738-0389 -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:34 PM To: DeFlorio, Dominick; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination Dominick DeFlorio wrote: I'm working with a Frame 7.2 document that is conditioned to produce two different manuals for two different (but similar) products. The last book file contains several schematics that are conditioned for one or the other product. Upon turning off the conditions for one product, several blank pages remain and do not go away after saving the file. (Pagination is configured to delete empty pages.) The caveat to this scenario is that the last page is assigned a custom master page (Back Cover). When I change the page to standard Right/Left master page, the document immediately corrects pagination. I prefer not to cob the last page to force it to work. Is there a more elegant approach to fixing this problem? FM won't delete pages that use a custom master page (or, since it starts deleting empty pages at the end of the file, any non-custom pages followed by a custom page). If you have to have a custom master page, you might be able to make it work using the Apply Master Pages feature. I'm not sure, since I haven't used it. You'd have to be able to change your last page back and forth between the standard master page and the custom page, maybe by importing the appropriate MasterPageMaps table (reference pages). If you have FrameScript, a script could switch out the master pages. Third possibility: Put the back cover into its own one-page file. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/theorem37%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional Pagination
I agree with Richard. I use custom master pages and have a para style mapped to my Final master page. When I update the book, I include the Apply Master Pages option that resets all the final master pages (not to mention other master pages mapped to other para styles) and it works just fine. It deletes the additional pages after applying the master pages. Frank Harper -Original Message- From: seraphim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 9, 2006 11:28 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination I might be wrong, but I think you can avoid this by forcing the next-to-last file in the book to have odd page numbers. Then, your final file would just have one page, and would make the total page count to be even. Thus, it's the second-to-last file in the book that would flex (adding a blank page when necessary to make the page count odd), and that could be done automatically. You could thereby avoid the dual-book approach. Regards, Seraphim ___ Seraphim Larsen CIG Operations / TPPE Senior Technical Writer Intel Corporation (480) 552-6504 Chandler, AZ The content of this message is my personal opinion only. Although I am an employee of Intel, the statements I make here in no way represent Intel's position on the issue, nor am I authorized to speak on behalf of Intel on this matter. ___ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:39 AM To: Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination Solution to the pagination problem: Add two extra back cover files to the book One file for the manual that ends with even pages (adds two extra pages) One file for the manual that ends with odd pages (adds one extra page) Create two book files, one for each manual May be the long way around, but it works. Thank you to all for your advise. dominick Dominick A. DeFlorio Senior Technical Writer Plug Power, Inc. 968 Albany-Shaker Road Latham, NY 12110 (518) 738-0389 -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:34 PM To: DeFlorio, Dominick; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination Dominick DeFlorio wrote: I'm working with a Frame 7.2 document that is conditioned to produce two different manuals for two different (but similar) products. The last book file contains several schematics that are conditioned for one or the other product. Upon turning off the conditions for one product, several blank pages remain and do not go away after saving the file. (Pagination is configured to delete empty pages.) The caveat to this scenario is that the last page is assigned a custom master page (Back Cover). When I change the page to standard Right/Left master page, the document immediately corrects pagination. I prefer not to cob the last page to force it to work. Is there a more elegant approach to fixing this problem? FM won't delete pages that use a custom master page (or, since it starts deleting empty pages at the end of the file, any non-custom pages followed by a custom page). If you have to have a custom master page, you might be able to make it work using the Apply Master Pages feature. I'm not sure, since I haven't used it. You'd have to be able to change your last page back and forth between the standard master page and the custom page, maybe by importing the appropriate MasterPageMaps table (reference pages). If you have FrameScript, a script could switch out the master pages. Third possibility: Put the back cover into its own one-page file. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/theorem37%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/hfharper%40mindspring.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. --- Hermann Frank Harper HIDS, Incorporated 678.525.8420 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Conditional Pagination
Good point...however, on manuals with an odd page count, I need the interim blank page to include the text, This page intentionally blank. When I paginate for even pages, Frame inserts a blank page with no way (that I know of) to insert text automatically. Dominick A. DeFlorio Senior Technical Writer Plug Power, Inc. 968 Albany-Shaker Road Latham, NY 12110 (518) 738-0389 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com] On Behalf Of seraphim Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 11:29 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: DeFlorio, Dominick Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination I might be wrong, but I think you can avoid this by forcing the next-to-last file in the book to have odd page numbers. Then, your final file would just have one page, and would make the total page count to be even. Thus, it's the second-to-last file in the book that would flex (adding a blank page when necessary to make the page count odd), and that could be done automatically. You could thereby avoid the dual-book approach. Regards, Seraphim ___ Seraphim Larsen CIG Operations / TPPE Senior Technical Writer Intel Corporation (480) 552-6504 Chandler, AZ The content of this message is my personal opinion only. Although I am an employee of Intel, the statements I make here in no way represent Intel's position on the issue, nor am I authorized to speak on behalf of Intel on this matter. ___ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:39 AM To: Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination Solution to the pagination problem: Add two extra back cover files to the book One file for the manual that ends with even pages (adds two extra pages) One file for the manual that ends with odd pages (adds one extra page) Create two book files, one for each manual May be the long way around, but it works. Thank you to all for your advise. dominick Dominick A. DeFlorio Senior Technical Writer Plug Power, Inc. 968 Albany-Shaker Road Latham, NY 12110 (518) 738-0389 -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:34 PM To: DeFlorio, Dominick; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination Dominick DeFlorio wrote: I'm working with a Frame 7.2 document that is conditioned to produce two different manuals for two different (but similar) products. The last book file contains several schematics that are conditioned for one or the other product. Upon turning off the conditions for one product, several blank pages remain and do not go away after saving the file. (Pagination is configured to delete empty pages.) The caveat to this scenario is that the last page is assigned a custom master page (Back Cover). When I change the page to standard Right/Left master page, the document immediately corrects pagination. I prefer not to cob the last page to force it to work. Is there a more elegant approach to fixing this problem? FM won't delete pages that use a custom master page (or, since it starts deleting empty pages at the end of the file, any non-custom pages followed by a custom page). If you have to have a custom master page, you might be able to make it work using the Apply Master Pages feature. I'm not sure, since I haven't used it. You'd have to be able to change your last page back and forth between the standard master page and the custom page, maybe by importing the appropriate MasterPageMaps table (reference pages). If you have FrameScript, a script could switch out the master pages. Third possibility: Put the back cover into its own one-page file. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/theorem37%40gmail.co m Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dominick_deflorio%40 plugpower.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send
Re: Conditional Pagination
In the Reference pages add a reference page. Insert a Graphic Frame, almost the size of your regular page size (less a line or two) and name it something relative to its use, like Intentionally Blank. Put a text (with the text tool) above the frame with the name of the frame. Into the graphic frame insert with the text tool the text This page intentinoally blank. Align the text as you find sutable (E.G. center both horizontally and vertically). Go to the Body Pages. Make a specific paragraph relatively named for use for this intentionally blank page (E.G. TPIB, ILB or something like that). In Advanced scroll either Frame above or Frame below (not both) and click the name of the reference frame you just made. Then apply this by manually adding (or changing) a paragrap to this specific paragraph tag. If what you want is to automatically apply this without your manual intervention, maybe someone could write a FrameScript script... Bodvar On 2/13/06, DeFlorio, Dominick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point...however, on manuals with an odd page count, I need the interim blank page to include the text, This page intentionally blank. When I paginate for even pages, Frame inserts a blank page with no way (that I know of) to insert text automatically. Dominick A. DeFlorio Senior Technical Writer Plug Power, Inc. 968 Albany-Shaker Road Latham, NY 12110 (518) 738-0389 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com] On Behalf Of seraphim Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 11:29 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: DeFlorio, Dominick Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination I might be wrong, but I think you can avoid this by forcing the next-to-last file in the book to have odd page numbers. Then, your final file would just have one page, and would make the total page count to be even. Thus, it's the second-to-last file in the book that would flex (adding a blank page when necessary to make the page count odd), and that could be done automatically. You could thereby avoid the dual-book approach. Regards, Seraphim ___ Seraphim Larsen CIG Operations / TPPE Senior Technical Writer Intel Corporation (480) 552-6504 Chandler, AZ The content of this message is my personal opinion only. Although I am an employee of Intel, the statements I make here in no way represent Intel's position on the issue, nor am I authorized to speak on behalf of Intel on this matter. ___ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:39 AM To: Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination Solution to the pagination problem: Add two extra back cover files to the book One file for the manual that ends with even pages (adds two extra pages) One file for the manual that ends with odd pages (adds one extra page) Create two book files, one for each manual May be the long way around, but it works. Thank you to all for your advise. dominick Dominick A. DeFlorio Senior Technical Writer Plug Power, Inc. 968 Albany-Shaker Road Latham, NY 12110 (518) 738-0389 -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:34 PM To: DeFlorio, Dominick; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination Dominick DeFlorio wrote: I'm working with a Frame 7.2 document that is conditioned to produce two different manuals for two different (but similar) products. The last book file contains several schematics that are conditioned for one or the other product. Upon turning off the conditions for one product, several blank pages remain and do not go away after saving the file. (Pagination is configured to delete empty pages.) The caveat to this scenario is that the last page is assigned a custom master page (Back Cover). When I change the page to standard Right/Left master page, the document immediately corrects pagination. I prefer not to cob the last page to force it to work. Is there a more elegant approach to fixing this problem? FM won't delete pages that use a custom master page (or, since it starts deleting empty pages at the end of the file, any non-custom pages followed by a custom page). If you have to have a custom master page, you might be able to make it work using the Apply Master Pages feature. I'm not sure, since I haven't used it. You'd have to be able to change your last page back and forth between the standard master page and the custom page, maybe by importing the appropriate MasterPageMaps table (reference pages). If you have FrameScript, a script could switch out the master pages. Third possibility: Put the back
RE: Conditional Pagination
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: Obviously, I am too stressed. I completely misunderstood the problem, back cover not being the same as back page. And I should have read _all_ of my mail before sending an unnecessary reply. Sorry 'bout that. Sorry about the misunderstanding. :-\ Have a nice weekend. :-))) Likewise! I think we're all ready for it. ;-) Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Pagination
Obviously, I am too stressed. I completely misunderstood the problem, back cover not being the same as back page. I totally agree, back cover of a book (just as the front cover or title page) is usually best kept in its own file. Not the least because you often have graphics there that you would want to bleed, or you are even printing this on a different size page. Sorry about the misunderstanding. :-\ Have a nice weekend. :-))) Bodvar On 2/10/06, Mike Feimster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely clear as mud. : ) I can see your point if your dealing with blank pages in the middle of the document. I would rather automate than try to enter blank page files as well. However, when dealing with the back cover, I think the simple solution is to put it in its own file. You can then tell it to always start on a left page. If I'm creating a booklet for press, I typically don't care. After I generate a PDF, I usually need to add a blank page or two so that our imposition software works correctly. I just do that in Acrobat before running Quite Imposing. Mike -Original Message- From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 7:21 PM To: Mike Feimster Cc: Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com; DeFlorio,Dominick Subject: Re: Conditional Pagination E.G.: I have three manuals each consisting of some 100 files (the reason being to make it easier to revise). Each file may or may not end in a blank left page which we chose to have absolutely blank instead of a page consisting of the regular layout (header/footer and stuff) plus the text Intentionally Left Blank or something of that nature. It is IMO much easier when your file ends on a right page (even without doing anything with FrameScript) to add a paragraph or two, maybe one that flushes the next paragraph off to the nex page. This last paragraph, which I call EmptyLeft would call a master page that would be totally blank except for a body frame of the same flow as the other pages. Or skip the flush paragraph and let the EmptyLeft also start on top of page or column. If you are using the single blank page files for adding into the book file, (and I have seen it done this way by a BIG US company) you have to go the extra step of checking each file for last page ending. Of course you can do it by checking the page count in the book file AFTER you have updated the book, but with a book consisting of maybe hundreds of files, who would like to add up to 50% of blank files into the book file? I have seen it and it ain't nice. But, as I said, it works. But I would not trust it until I would have physically checked it. And that takes time. I would not like to print out 500 or 1000 or 2000 pages only to find out that there is one paging error or more early in the book that will make the left pages after the spot to print on the right page and vice versa. However, if you have a List of pages, List of Effective Pages or what you choose to name it, a list that counts for and elaborates the revision status of each page, and if you want to refer to the blank pages only with the word BLANK without any page nunber, it may be easier to do it with separate blank files, I suppose, I have not trie it, but I do it this way for now: I am using LEP Tools from Silicon Prairie Software. I set it to read the Header/Footer markers #1 and #2 that I use for resp. revision date and revision number. The LEP Tool reads this into a text box it makes on each page into which it puts its own type of markers that read the contents of the markers I have set. Originally I only need to put them on the first page, of course. But then, I put these markers to the EmptyLeft page into the only paragraph there (the EmptyLeft Pgf tag). Here one marker is empty (one space only) and the other is populated with the word BLANK. This works for me now, but I am hoping for an upgrade solution that could maybe add a third kind of LEP marker that would read a different type of marker, we could call it Blank, and when it finds this marker it will print only the contents of that marker, which would be BLANK or something like that. Now, this should be clear as mud, shouldn't it? Bodvar On 2/9/06, Mike Feimster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Third possibility: Put the back cover into its own one-page file. A horrible suggestion IMNSHO, but it works. ;-) Bodvar, Care to elaborate? Mike ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Pagination
E.G.: I have three manuals each consisting of some 100 files (the reason being to make it easier to revise). Each file may or may not end in a blank left page which we chose to have absolutely blank instead of a page consisting of the regular layout (header/footer and stuff) plus the text Intentionally Left Blank or something of that nature. It is IMO much easier when your file ends on a right page (even without doing anything with FrameScript) to add a paragraph or two, maybe one that flushes the next paragraph off to the nex page. This last paragraph, which I call EmptyLeft would call a master page that would be totally blank except for a body frame of the same flow as the other pages. Or skip the flush paragraph and let the EmptyLeft also start on top of page or column. If you are using the single blank page files for adding into the book file, (and I have seen it done this way by a BIG US company) you have to go the extra step of checking each file for last page ending. Of course you can do it by checking the page count in the book file AFTER you have updated the book, but with a book consisting of maybe hundreds of files, who would like to add up to 50% of blank files into the book file? I have seen it and it ain't nice. But, as I said, it works. But I would not trust it until I would have physically checked it. And that takes time. I would not like to print out 500 or 1000 or 2000 pages only to find out that there is one paging error or more early in the book that will make the left pages after the spot to print on the right page and vice versa. However, if you have a List of pages, List of Effective Pages or what you choose to name it, a list that counts for and elaborates the revision status of each page, and if you want to refer to the blank pages only with the word BLANK without any page nunber, it may be easier to do it with separate blank files, I suppose, I have not trie it, but I do it this way for now: I am using LEP Tools from Silicon Prairie Software. I set it to read the Header/Footer markers #1 and #2 that I use for resp. revision date and revision number. The LEP Tool reads this into a text box it makes on each page into which it puts its own type of markers that read the contents of the markers I have set. Originally I only need to put them on the first page, of course. But then, I put these markers to the EmptyLeft page into the only paragraph there (the EmptyLeft Pgf tag). Here one marker is empty (one space only) and the other is populated with the word BLANK. This works for me now, but I am hoping for an upgrade solution that could maybe add a third kind of LEP marker that would read a different type of marker, we could call it Blank, and when it finds this marker it will print only the contents of that marker, which would be BLANK or something like that. Now, this should be clear as mud, shouldn't it? Bodvar On 2/9/06, Mike Feimster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Third possibility: Put the back cover into its own one-page file. A horrible suggestion IMNSHO, but it works. ;-) Bodvar, Care to elaborate? Mike ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional Pagination
Solution to the pagination problem: Add two extra back cover files to the book One file for the manual that ends with even pages (adds two extra pages) One file for the manual that ends with odd pages (adds one extra page) Create two book files, one for each manual May be the long way around, but it works. Thank you to all for your advise. dominick Dominick A. DeFlorio Senior Technical Writer Plug Power, Inc. 968 Albany-Shaker Road Latham, NY 12110 (518) 738-0389 -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:34 PM To: DeFlorio, Dominick; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination Dominick DeFlorio wrote: I'm working with a Frame 7.2 document that is conditioned to produce two different manuals for two different (but similar) products. The last book file contains several schematics that are conditioned for one or the other product. Upon turning off the conditions for one product, several blank pages remain and do not go away after saving the file. (Pagination is configured to delete empty pages.) The caveat to this scenario is that the last page is assigned a custom master page (Back Cover). When I change the page to standard Right/Left master page, the document immediately corrects pagination. I prefer not to cob the last page to force it to work. Is there a more elegant approach to fixing this problem? FM won't delete pages that use a custom master page (or, since it starts deleting empty pages at the end of the file, any non-custom pages followed by a custom page). If you have to have a custom master page, you might be able to make it work using the Apply Master Pages feature. I'm not sure, since I haven't used it. You'd have to be able to change your last page back and forth between the standard master page and the custom page, maybe by importing the appropriate MasterPageMaps table (reference pages). If you have FrameScript, a script could switch out the master pages. Third possibility: Put the back cover into its own one-page file. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Pagination
DeFlorio, Dominick wrote: Hi All, I'm working with a Frame 7.2 document that is conditioned to produce two different manuals for two different (but similar) products. The last book file contains several schematics that are conditioned for one or the other product. Upon turning off the conditions for one product, several blank pages remain and do not go away after saving the file. (Pagination is configured to delete empty pages.) The caveat to this scenario is that the last page is assigned a custom master page (Back Cover). When I change the page to standard Right/Left master page, the document immediately corrects pagination. I prefer not to cob the last page to force it to work. Is there a more elegant approach to fixing this problem? Hi Dominick, As you've discovered, assigning custom master pages causes the delete empty pages command to fail. You might look into setting up your master pages via the master page mapping table instead of custom assignment. Then, you could reapply master pages after changing conditions, and THEN save the file. That should cause the correct master page assignment and the correct page deletion. All this assumes that you have a tag that you can hang the put Back Cover here assignment onto. Regards, Sarah PS Answer part two, as always: FrameScript -- # Sarah O'Keefe Scriptorium Publishing Services, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.scriptorium.com Blog: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional Pagination
I quickly tried it (as I'm under the gun at the moment), but wasn't successful. I'm sure it's in my setup of the mapping table. Don't have time to determine my error, so the extra back page file was an easy work-around. I'll implement the MP Mapping Table when I get a rare quiet moment to learn it. Thank you for your advise. dominick Dominick A. DeFlorio Senior Technical Writer Plug Power, Inc. 968 Albany-Shaker Road Latham, NY 12110 (518) 738-0389 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com] On Behalf Of Sarah O'Keefe Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 2:58 PM To: DeFlorio, Dominick; framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: Conditional Pagination DeFlorio, Dominick wrote: Hi All, I'm working with a Frame 7.2 document that is conditioned to produce two different manuals for two different (but similar) products. The last book file contains several schematics that are conditioned for one or the other product. Upon turning off the conditions for one product, several blank pages remain and do not go away after saving the file. (Pagination is configured to delete empty pages.) The caveat to this scenario is that the last page is assigned a custom master page (Back Cover). When I change the page to standard Right/Left master page, the document immediately corrects pagination. I prefer not to cob the last page to force it to work. Is there a more elegant approach to fixing this problem? Hi Dominick, As you've discovered, assigning custom master pages causes the delete empty pages command to fail. You might look into setting up your master pages via the master page mapping table instead of custom assignment. Then, you could reapply master pages after changing conditions, and THEN save the file. That should cause the correct master page assignment and the correct page deletion. All this assumes that you have a tag that you can hang the put Back Cover here assignment onto. Regards, Sarah PS Answer part two, as always: FrameScript -- # Sarah O'Keefe Scriptorium Publishing Services, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.scriptorium.com Blog: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dominick_deflorio%40 plugpower.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional Pagination
Third possibility: Put the back cover into its own one-page file. A horrible suggestion IMNSHO, but it works. ;-) Bodvar, Care to elaborate? Mike ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
