Re: Graphics that are too large
Judie Vegh wrote: Doug and Art, Thanks so much for your responses, I will try these methods out and see what works best for my situation. As a follow up to this, would it be possible if I wanted text to expand across both columns at the bottom of the page? Say, instead of adding in a graphic to explain my steps, I'd like to add in a text box with some information relevant to the text/steps that are in the two columns? Would that then require a different master page? Judie, Stay away from trying to format individual pages by inventing new master pages; instead, use the pagination tools available in the Designers and the options for anchored frames. Sounds like you want to have your page look like the ones you've made that have 2-col text at the top and a wide graphic spanning both columns at the bottom. You've done that by inserting an anchored frame and putting a graphic in it. But for your new purpose, don't put a graphic in the anchored frame. Draw a text box inside it instead and then type and format your explanatory text. Alternative methods would be to create a pgf tag set to Span All Columns and apply that to your sidebar text at the bottom of the page, or create a table (one or many rows/columns, borders or not, to suit) that spans all columns. A table or a spanning pgf tag pretty much limits you to positioning just after the 2-col body text unless you fuss with settings manually. If you want all these graphics and sidebar texts to be flush with the bottom of the page, an anchored frame can be set to Bottom of Column and will stay there even if your 2-column text is shortened. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com Developers explain How the Product Works. Technical writers explain How to Work the Product. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Graphics that are too large
Judie, Stuart is quite correct -- use the program the way it was designed to be used; minimal master pages and overrides -- you can do the exception graphics and text blocks (sidebars) the same way, by inserting an anchored frame and using it as a container for the graphic or text. You may want to do some reading on the way FM works. It's not really a page layout or design program that works the way other desktop publishing programs or word processors work. It is dedicated to long document management, and it uses a series of containers (the frames) that are layered on top of each other to hold content. Cheers, Art On 6/19/07, Stuart Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judie Vegh wrote: Doug and Art, Thanks so much for your responses, I will try these methods out and see what works best for my situation. As a follow up to this, would it be possible if I wanted text to expand across both columns at the bottom of the page? Say, instead of adding in a graphic to explain my steps, I'd like to add in a text box with some information relevant to the text/steps that are in the two columns? Would that then require a different master page? Judie, Stay away from trying to format individual pages by inventing new master pages; instead, use the pagination tools available in the Designers and the options for anchored frames. Sounds like you want to have your page look like the ones you've made that have 2-col text at the top and a wide graphic spanning both columns at the bottom. You've done that by inserting an anchored frame and putting a graphic in it. But for your new purpose, don't put a graphic in the anchored frame. Draw a text box inside it instead and then type and format your explanatory text. Alternative methods would be to create a pgf tag set to Span All Columns and apply that to your sidebar text at the bottom of the page, or create a table (one or many rows/columns, borders or not, to suit) that spans all columns. A table or a spanning pgf tag pretty much limits you to positioning just after the 2-col body text unless you fuss with settings manually. If you want all these graphics and sidebar texts to be flush with the bottom of the page, an anchored frame can be set to Bottom of Column and will stay there even if your 2-column text is shortened. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com Developers explain How the Product Works. Technical writers explain How to Work the Product. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Graphics that are too large
Yes, I considered the table usage soon after I wrote that comment. What I am trying to achieve is much like the set-up in a Flash MX manual I've been looking through. I like the use of two column text, though I think the headers need to be defined more. I've found a problem with graphics we have that are too large to fit into one side of the column, so I wanted it to span the width of the page at the bottom. So this is kind of like an upside down T structure where the left column is text, the right column is figures, and the bottom of the page (when needed) is reserved for large screenshots, a table, or possibly text that may have a short story to enhance upon and related to the material covered. I'm not new to using FrameMaker, but I'm new to actually creating styles and templates, and am trying to figure out my boundaries of what is feasible and what is not. Thanks so much for your input and to everyone else who's contributed to my FrameMaker knowledge! :) Judie -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:22 PM To: Judie Vegh Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Graphics that are too large It'd be much easier to import the screen shots into anchored frames and set the frames to span both columns (what I'd recommend) and/or to go to the bottom of the page... That would also allow them to float in the text as it is modified. Playing with special master pages would force you to manually repaginate whenever your content changed... Art On 6/18/07, Judie Vegh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I am currently in the process of creating a new style for some manuals. I really like manuals that have two columns per page, one column designated for text and steps, the other designated for images and figures. Unfortunately, some of the screenshots that I have to take are large, and even scaling them down by DPI in the Object Properties dialog box, won't benefit the manual because they don't look nice when output to a PDF. I feel that the easiest solution would be to create a master page with two columns and another master page that allows for room for a large graphic at the bottom of the page and apply it as I need it, but is this really fast and efficient? I feel like it will cause more headaches than ease-of-use. What would anyone suggest doing to remedy these large graphics (besides not using them), and allow it to be efficient? Thanks, Judie - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and any attached documents may contain confidential information from Hyland Software, Inc. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for the delivery of this message to the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or of any attached documents, or the taking of any action or omission to take any action in reliance on the contents of this message or of any attached documents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, at (440) 788-5000, and delete the original message immediately. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Graphics that are too large
It'd be much easier to import the screen shots into anchored frames and set the frames to span both columns (what I'd recommend) and/or to go to the bottom of the page... That would also allow them to float in the text as it is modified. Playing with special master pages would force you to manually repaginate whenever your content changed... Art On 6/18/07, Judie Vegh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I am currently in the process of creating a new style for some manuals. I really like manuals that have two columns per page, one column designated for text and steps, the other designated for images and figures. Unfortunately, some of the screenshots that I have to take are large, and even scaling them down by DPI in the Object Properties dialog box, won't benefit the manual because they don't look nice when output to a PDF. I feel that the easiest solution would be to create a master page with two columns and another master page that allows for room for a large graphic at the bottom of the page and apply it as I need it, but is this really fast and efficient? I feel like it will cause more headaches than ease-of-use. What would anyone suggest doing to remedy these large graphics (besides not using them), and allow it to be efficient? Thanks, Judie - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and any attached documents may contain confidential information from Hyland Software, Inc. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for the delivery of this message to the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or of any attached documents, or the taking of any action or omission to take any action in reliance on the contents of this message or of any attached documents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, at (440) 788-5000, and delete the original message immediately. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Graphics that are too large
Doug and Art, Thanks so much for your responses, I will try these methods out and see what works best for my situation. As a follow up to this, would it be possible if I wanted text to expand across both columns at the bottom of the page? Say, instead of adding in a graphic to explain my steps, I'd like to add in a text box with some information relevant to the text/steps that are in the two columns? Would that then require a different master page? Judie -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:22 PM To: Judie Vegh Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Graphics that are too large It'd be much easier to import the screen shots into anchored frames and set the frames to span both columns (what I'd recommend) and/or to go to the bottom of the page... That would also allow them to float in the text as it is modified. Playing with special master pages would force you to manually repaginate whenever your content changed... Art On 6/18/07, Judie Vegh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I am currently in the process of creating a new style for some manuals. I really like manuals that have two columns per page, one column designated for text and steps, the other designated for images and figures. Unfortunately, some of the screenshots that I have to take are large, and even scaling them down by DPI in the Object Properties dialog box, won't benefit the manual because they don't look nice when output to a PDF. I feel that the easiest solution would be to create a master page with two columns and another master page that allows for room for a large graphic at the bottom of the page and apply it as I need it, but is this really fast and efficient? I feel like it will cause more headaches than ease-of-use. What would anyone suggest doing to remedy these large graphics (besides not using them), and allow it to be efficient? Thanks, Judie - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and any attached documents may contain confidential information from Hyland Software, Inc. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for the delivery of this message to the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or of any attached documents, or the taking of any action or omission to take any action in reliance on the contents of this message or of any attached documents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, at (440) 788-5000, and delete the original message immediately. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Graphics that are too large
Judie Vegh wrote: As a follow up to this, would it be possible if I wanted text to expand across both columns at the bottom of the page? Say, instead of adding in a graphic to explain my steps, I'd like to add in a text box with some information relevant to the text/steps that are in the two columns? Would that then require a different master page? I'm having a hard time visualizing what you're trying to achieve -- you have a two-column page, and you want some text to span both columns? You don't need (or want) a different master page -- that would be a maintenance nightmare. You may need to define additional paragraph formats that span columns. Take a look at the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer dialog. Tables can also span columns -- depending on your goal, you might look into that, too. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
